Grand Royal Interview Issue #2

[twinks]

i ran across this interview while looking up some pics...it's an interview from grand royal magazine....issue #2....

mike d interview kathleen hanna...it's pretty interesting...i don't know if it's been posted before, but it's worth a read. I posted the link cause the interview is kind of long....

http://www.papercoffin.com/misc/riot%20archives/riot%20docs/grilrock.html

[acamus]

mike d interview kathleen hanna...it's pretty interesting

Great find. Thanks for posting it.

Oh dear lord god, what happened to this poor girl? She carries around a bigger axe than Paul Bunyan. (It's hard to convey tone with text, so let me say up front I'm not trying to be confrontational.) She always comes across as one-dimensional with the old-school femenism. I can't remember the guy's name and no amount of Googling or Wikiquote has turned up the source, but I remember this gay playright that once said, "I'm not just brains, I'm a piece of meat too." I give all my love and respect to all the mothers and wives and sisters and friends, but hell hole, what's wrong with being sexy? (Thanks enree.) I remember when Le Tigre's "This Island" and Northern State's "All City" came out and thinking Le Tigre's rants were tired, out-of-date, blind, soul-exhausting while NS' songs like "Summer Never Ends" were positive, fresh, life-affirming ("ride around and check out all the boys I wanna impress.) It's like Camille Paglia says, middle-class white girls have no clue and are scared of life. Black and working class sex is always hotter.

I'm not going to play arm-chair psychologist, but I've got to ask again, "What happened K? What do have against lust?" No woman (or man) deserves to be treated SOLEY as an object, but we are beautiful animals and there's nothing wrong with a little drool and tingle when I see another hot human being. Sexuality is ALWAYS heightened by intimacy and, as dead prez put it, mind sex (getting to know the person behind the pretty skin). There are as many forms of beauty as there are people. Imagine how hot it could be to get intouch with your inner Tiger, K. You're in a relationship with a hot guy. When saw him for the first time, didn't you think, "Damn I want to vagg him." I'm totally with you that questions like "Out of all the females in the entire world, who would most want to bone?" all on its own sounds like some frat-boy shit, but look at the guys who were asking and answering, its just one part of the equation. I know I see women that are hot and think about fucking and I also think about talking to them on a roof with some lemonade and I hope women can have the same lusty thoughts too (I know they can 'cause I hear the talk between them all the time). In the interview she and Kathi talk about multi-dimensional people, but Kathleen never comes across as living anywhere but in Flatland. I don't know her personally and I know I'm getting this impression from limited media interviews, but it says something that ALL the interviews are essentially hyper-focused on the one topic from the one perspective. Honey girl, if you learn to lust you might like life.

There is no doubt that boys (I'm not excluding myself) need to talk about this more; need some schooling; need to school one another; need to learn how to talk about things other than information, to express emotion. As a teacher of young boys, I see the environmental effects of poor fathering, or worse, modeling fucked up figures. I've also been convinced that we boys come hardwired in ways that need to be corralled or guided. We tend to mature more slowly, tend to be self-centered longer, be unaware about compassion. No fuckin doubt. Not that conversely our rage and risk-taking needs to be completely squashed, but we do need guides. (There's a whole other conversation about girls' needs, but ...) Nothing frustrates me more (probably because I see myself or a former self) than the self-centeredness I see in boys. For god's sake, they don't know how to ask personal questions. "Hey Paul, I know your grandfather died last week. How are you feeling." Me, me, me, me. They have something to say when it has to do with "me,, me, me" and otherwise they sit there and stare like they have brain damage. Some kid will come in in the morning and tell about their kitty being sick and the only response is from girls (although there's some amount of posturing here too). Boys sit there like lumps of Playdough.

Yeah, I know how sneering this sounds now that I re-read it, but I can't have the face-to-face conversation and I'm only going on the info that's in the press, in print, but what can I do? I hope this spurs a conversation on this board. There was one like this once before and in devolved into poopoo. Let's have a better one Zora/Miranamee/anyone.

[Extra Cheese]

I remember when Le Tigre's "This Island" and Northern State's "All City" came out and thinking Le Tigre's rants were tired, out-of-date, blind, soul-exhausting while NS' songs like "Summer Never Ends" were positive, fresh, life-affirming

you lose

[acamus]

:o I've got to wonder what the hell I think I'm saying sometimes. It's so easy for me to take this hollier/better-than thou position when Kathleen isn't here to defend herself (nor if I were her, would I give a damn). I remember a few months back one of them (I think Adrock) saying something about the weird ideas people on the boards have of them. Imagine a message board dedicated to you where people discuss the minutia of your tattoos, choice in sneakers or your political views. Yeah they put themselves in the limelight and that's going to happen, but still I imagine a community of 26052 people (the number of registered BBMB members) sitting around doing this to me. Whew! No thanks. I just re-read what I wrote and I just want to say I don't know why I let Hanna's views bother me so much. I do want to have a serious, friendly and charitable discussion about the topic and I do have it with my friends, but I rant sometimes way too much. Sorry. That's all.

[ggirlballa]

shit:eek: print a book out of his post!:eek: ...........:D


interesting interview it made me think very deeply about the topics

[acamus]

monkey