Attn:Qdrop

[Lex Diamonds]

Who are you trying to be on this board and why?

[TurdBerglar]

what does that even mean?

[SobaViolence]

to vent.

Jekyl and Hyde kinda deal.
he lives a boring and tame real life, so he releases his dickiness on the board so he doesn't blow up...

just a hunch.

[Lex Diamonds]

what does that even mean?
It's not exactly rocket science, is it?

[Lex Diamonds]

to vent.

Jekyl and Hyde kinda deal.
he lives a boring and tame real life, so he releases his dickiness on the board so he doesn't blow up...

just a hunch.
How can you vent anything by pressing a few keys on a computer? Qdrop has said himself that he has a made-up "persona" on this board. I'm just wondering who he thinks his persona is, and why he wants to be perceived that way when it obviously causes the majority of people to dismiss his thoughts and opinions.

[SobaViolence]

that's the 64,000 dollar question right there...

[like2_drink]

i half think q is the man just because people seem to hate him so much, it's like you've all fell into his plow or somethin..or his thoughts are just genuinely different then everyone elses

[Planetary]

How can you vent anything by pressing a few keys on a computer?

mayby he can't be arsed to do anything else...

[ScarySquirrel]

that's the 64,000 dollar question right there...
I kind of feel like $64,000 really isn't a whole lot any more. I mean, yeah, it really is... but I think you know what I mean.

[Auton]

ahhh leave him alone

[like2_drink]

well then what if he were actually a cool guy and his persona was made to piss you off?

[Randetica]

this thread is boring without q

[like2_drink]

i won't lie, i'm waiting for some witty half-depressing comments too

[SobaViolence]

I kind of feel like $64,000 really isn't a whole lot any more. I mean, yeah, it really is... but I think you know what I mean.

what i really meant... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_$64,000_Question)

but i know what you mean...

[Lex Diamonds]

well then what if he were actually a cool guy and his persona was made to piss you off?
He could well be a cool guy, but that's not what I'm asking. Anyway, he's obviously not that cool if he married a ginger person.

[Ace42X]

.or his thoughts are just genuinely different then everyone elses

Feh, he plays devil's advocate for the sake of it, and revels in it, and has admitted as much himself. He's not much better than a troll in that respect.

[DipDipDive]

Anyway, he's obviously not that cool if he married a ginger person.

That doesn't even make sense.

And by the way, insulting the appearance of someone's wife is not cool at all. (n)

I like Q. I think he's funny.

[kaiser soze]

How can you vent anything by pressing a few keys on a computer? Qdrop has said himself that he has a made-up "persona" on this board. I'm just wondering who he thinks his persona is, and why he wants to be perceived that way when it obviously causes the majority of people to dismiss his thoughts and opinions.

if that is the case, then he must hate himself for being an alias

touche

He could well be a cool guy, but that's not what I'm asking. Anyway, he's obviously not that cool if he married a ginger person.

at least our crotches are more colorful than yours ;)

[Qdrop]

am i really supposed to respond to this shit?

i've owned padster so many times i could charge him rent in his own skin.

Ace accussing ME of playing devils advocate and being a troll?
i'm the only person on this board he's afraid of.... his tactics are useless on me.

an attack on my girls hair color?
please...

[Randetica]

lolz

[sercomdj01]

ATTENTION!

give him more attention.

[Drederick Tatum]

Q Drop loves this board.

[DipDipDive]

Q Drop loves this board.

Totally.

I bet if you had told Q 2 years ago that he'd be addicted to this message board, he'd kick your scrotum and spit in your face while you were down.

[Documad]

Anyway, he's obviously not that cool if he married a ginger person.
What in the hell is wrong with you people? The first time I heard of your bias against red heads, I laughed because I thought it was a joke. I have a couple of friends who are red heads and they said they were treated badly in London. In 2005. Crazy.

I assume it's a long-standing anti-Irish thing, but isn't it time to let go of that?

[Drederick Tatum]

Totally.

I bet if you had told Q 2 years ago that he'd be addicted to this message board, he'd kick your scrotum and spit in your face while you were down.

nah, it would've been more like "yes sir, yes sir, three bags full."

[like2_drink]

am i really supposed to respond to this shit?

i've owned padster so many times i could charge him rent in his own skin.

Ace accussing ME of playing devils advocate and being a troll?
i'm the only person on this board he's afraid of.... his tactics are useless on me.

an attack on my girls hair color?
please...

i totally called it


witty
i've owned padster so many times i could charge him rent in his own skin.

Ace accussing ME of playing devils advocate and being a troll?
i'm the only person on this board he's afraid of.... his tactics are useless on me.

and

half depressing

an attack on my girls hair color?
please...

[zorra_chiflada]

red hair is awesome. i don't get this anti-ginger shit.

[Auton]

what a racist. yes, it's racism.

[TurdBerglar]

i don't get it either. red heads are considered hot over here. you will never hear the term ginger and if you did use it no one would know what you were talking about.

[like2_drink]

on a similar, more humorful approach

gingervitus mean anything to anyone?:rolleyes:

[Loppfessor]

i've owned padster so many times i could charge him rent in his own skin.



According to who? You? I don't even think it's possible to "own" someone on the internet. You seriously take this place waaay to seriously.

What in the hell is wrong with you people? The first time I heard of your bias against red heads, I laughed because I thought it was a joke. I have a couple of friends who are red heads and they said they were treated badly in London. In 2005. Crazy.

I assume it's a long-standing anti-Irish thing, but isn't it time to let go of that?

Yeah that shit tripped me out too, I learned about it here actually and also thought it was a joke. It's really silly if you ask me

[Lex Diamonds]

You all "LOL" when it's gay people or Asians that are being insulted, but as soon as I make a pop about gingers, you all turn into little fucking Mary Whitehouses. Puh-lease. It was a joke, you idiots.

Besides, ginger people ARE much uglier than others.

And Qdrop, I thought I told you I'm not trying to "own" you I just want you to explain in serious terms what you think you're doing when you take on this "net-nerd fighing back against the world" persona.

[Loppfessor]

I knew you were joking....I had just never heard about the Ginger thing until about a year ago on here. Also I only laugh at jokes about gay Asians...I mean c'mon what's up with that?

[Lex Diamonds]

They rike to rick plicks!!

[roosta]

out of a family of 8 children, i was one of only 2 not to be born with red-hair.

true story.

[avignon]

None of you even know how to bait Q. But you all keep trying. There are more ATTN: QDrop threads on this board than butt sex threads. And that's saying something.

[Lex Diamonds]

None of you even know how to bait Q. But you all keep trying. There are more ATTN: QDrop threads on this board than butt sex threads. And that's saying something.
Baiting Q is easier than breathing, you just have to tell him you think he's wrong. That's quite clearly not what I'm doing here.

[Planetary]

I assume it's a long-standing anti-Irish thing, but isn't it time to let go of that?

nope

[Loppfessor]

nope


Then what is it?

[Planetary]

Then what is it?
i was saying nope at the 'isn't it time to let go of it?' comment.

but no it's not an irish thing. it's a joke thing.

[Loppfessor]

Oh I was just curious

[ampm]

It's weird. Because I hate cats, but i love pussy.

[Randetica]

i love cats, i love pussy, i love padster, i love red hair

i wish i had red hair by nature

*dyes em red again*

[Lex Diamonds]

It's OK if you dye it, cuz you don't have that weird ginger skin. Or ginger pubes. [/pissing people off]

[Randetica]

eh i have a ginger skin

oh shit i just realised im boris becker!

[Lex Diamonds]

Meine Hoseschlange ist donkel-blau seit ich AIDs bekommte!

[Planetary]

precisely.

[DipDipDive]

Yeah dude. Red hair? Unattractive. Feathered George Michael circa 1986 hair? Now that shit is HOT.

[Lex Diamonds]

Yeah dude. Red hair? Unattractive. Feathered George Michael circa 1986 hair? Now that shit is HOT.
I'd have to disagree.

[Randetica]

haha.

[Qdrop]

jesus, how many times have we had this fuckin discussion about why people act the way they do on a message board.

so fuckin redundant...


1. it passes the time. i'm plenty busy at work, but i have the attention span of a fly, so i like to go back and forth between this and work shit.

2. in normal relationships or conversations, you have an emotional connection to the people (if even a small one) because you see them, you are in a physical vacinity with them...see visual, facial reactions- all things that produce empathy, sympathy, intimidation perhaps....basically things that create an innate sense of CARING and of wanting to cooperate and be civil.
with internet conversation, it's just words on a screen. we are operating without many of the innate cues (visual, physical, tonal) of more common conversation...so we are basically operating without normal constraints, without a more common urge to be empathetic, or to be civil and get along.
without these inhibitions...certain aspect of our personalities (the more aggressive ones) can "come out and play" without much blowback.
it's our inner ID gone wild.
in person, i would be much more careful of the discussions i have, NOT because i'm a coward, but because i am quite empathetic and would not enjoy the looks of hurt or emabarrassment on anothers face. i would tone it down, be more agreeable, more friendly.
because being friendly is much more fun than being hostile with someone...IN PERSON.
all you see on here is a tiny fraction of my personalily amplified...whatever that is, without inhibitions.

3. i enjoy the competative spirit in many of these threads...that's no secret. most of us do. it's harmless. while i do gain some egotistical sugar from dominating many people in discussions....it's nowhere NEAR the level many of you want to pretend it is. this board is such a small part of my life when it comes to ego. but believe what you want.

4. i occasionally get some good info exchange in some debates...and just some general pop cultuer buzz that i wouldn't know about otherwise.

[Auton]

when was the last time you "dominated" someone?

[zippo]

2. ...with internet conversation, it's just words on a screen. we are operating without... a more common urge to be empathetic, or to be civil and get along.
without these inhibitions...certain aspect of our personalities (the more aggressive ones) can "come out and play" without much blowback.
it's our inner ID gone wild.
in person, i would be much more careful of the discussions i have, NOT because i'm a coward, but because i am quite empathetic and would not enjoy the looks of hurt or emabarrassment on anothers face.

becasue youre quite empathetic and would not enjoy the looks of hurt and embarrasment on anothers face? i think this pretty much applies to the majority of people that can be considered human, dont pat yourself on the shoulder for too long.

and the reasons you listed for not being civilized through internet conversation are not an excuse, for not everyone takes the liberty of exploiting those terms so easily, due to the simple reason that they dont exclusively need to see the other persons negative reaction in real life to care, the sole thought of knowing youre possibly hurting or embarrasing someone is enough "blowback" in itself, as it should be.

not a coward? id say only playing rudely and aggresively when you dont have to suffer the uncomfortable consequences, like you said you do, is actually a very fit definition for one.

[Lo_Lyfe]

got-dayum, q stays catchin losses.

[Qdrop]

becasue youre quite empathetic and would not enjoy the looks of hurt and embarrasment on anothers face? i think this pretty much applies to the majority of people that can be considered human, dont pat yourself on the shoulder for too long.

and the reasons you listed for not being civilized through internet conversation are not an excuse, for not everyone takes the liberty of exploiting those terms so easily, due to the simple reason that they dont exclusively need to see the other persons negative reaction in real life to care, the sole thought of knowing youre possibly hurting or embarrasing someone is enough "blowback" in itself, as it should be.

not a coward? id say only playing rudely and aggresively when you dont have to suffer the uncomfortable consequences, like you said you do, is actually a very fit definition for one.

then the majority of this board are cowards.

you know i'm right on this.

[kaiser soze]

well thanks to you, I now know that I am.

it was hard....the denial was eating me, I am now free

thanks (y)

[Qdrop]

well thanks to you, I now know that I am.

it was hard....the denial was eating me, I am now free

thanks (y)

can you please change your avatar?
i can't take you seriously with that thing.



(likely response: "i can't take YOU seriously ever..LOLZZZZ.")

[Loppfessor]

Dude you went out of your way to turn an 8 into a Q on that stupid ball....I thought 8 balls stopped being cool in like 94' if they ever were cool...

[kaiser soze]

wrong and no

do I ever "LOLZZZZ"?

:) :) :)

the cat's ginger, you should appreciate that

LOL

[Qdrop]

Dude you went out of your way to turn an 8 into a Q on that stupid ball....I thought 8 balls stopped being cool in like 94' if they ever were cool...

Beck found it for me...i had nothing to do with it.

try again, douche.


actually, stop trying....you've been all over this thread from the get-go, and have yet to say anything of merit.

[Qdrop]

the cat's ginger, you should appreciate that



fair enough.

though Padster would beg to differ....

[Lex Diamonds]

Nah, orange is an OK colour for animals. That's why tigers look so badass. (y)

[Loppfessor]

Beck found it for me...i had nothing to do with it.

try again, douche.


actually, stop trying....you've been all over this thread from the get-go, and have yet to say anything of merit.


Either way it's still lame....oh and don't call me "douche" that my word for you...copy cat

[Qdrop]

Either way it's still lame....oh and don't call me "douche" that my word for you...copy cat

dude, you have the fuckin Kool Aid man-- ah fuck it.

you're fuckin useless.

[kaiser soze]

I guess you didn't get the memo

Kool Aid is cooler than Q

[Qdrop]

I guess you didn't get the memo

Kool Aid is cooler than Q

is that the same memo that states "Lopp has viable opinions" ?

cause i didn't get that one either.

[kaiser soze]

Q why are you in invisible mode?

cunty ass coward

[Qdrop]

Q why are you in invisible mode?

cunty ass coward

"cunty ass"?

the fuck is that?

[Loppfessor]

I guess you didn't get the memo

Kool Aid is cooler than Q


yeah it even has "Kool" in the name....mispelled of course but that makes it even more edgy

[kaiser soze]

beats me, but you gotta admit it rolls off the tongue nicely

[Qdrop]

yeah it even has "Kool" in the name....mispelled of course but that makes it even more edgy

any chance of you dying soon?
any at all?

give me something to hope for.....

[Loppfessor]

is that the same memo that states "Lopp has viable opinions" ?

cause i didn't get that one either.


That's because everyone took you off their forwards list because you're such a DOUCHE!

[Lex Diamonds]

Haha Qdrop is off the memo list. :D

[Nuzzolese]

2. in normal relationships or conversations, you have an emotional connection to the people (if even a small one) because you see them, you are in a physical vacinity with them...see visual, facial reactions- all things that produce empathy, sympathy, intimidation perhaps....basically things that create an innate sense of CARING and of wanting to cooperate and be civil.
with internet conversation, it's just words on a screen. we are operating without many of the innate cues (visual, physical, tonal) of more common conversation...so we are basically operating without normal constraints, without a more common urge to be empathetic, or to be civil and get along.
without these inhibitions...certain aspect of our personalities (the more aggressive ones) can "come out and play" without much blowback.
it's our inner ID gone wild.
in person, i would be much more careful of the discussions i have, NOT because i'm a coward, but because i am quite empathetic and would not enjoy the looks of hurt or emabarrassment on anothers face. i would tone it down, be more agreeable, more friendly.
because being friendly is much more fun than being hostile with someone...IN PERSON.
all you see on here is a tiny fraction of my personalily amplified...whatever that is, without inhibitions.



I don't think you need to explain yourself, I don't know why you bother unless you feel you MUST be understood correctly and you hate the idea of us having the wrong idea about you.

But this above paragraph sounds like Holden Caulfield. - That line about how he'd rather push a guy out a window than sock him in the jaw. The worst is seeing the other guy's face. It wouldn't be so bad if you could both be blindfolded. What scares him most is the other guy's face.

You know why? Because inside you are this way, you desire to inflict pain and embarrassment and anger and apparently the only thing keeping you from doing this, is the other person's face, the reflection of yourself in them, sympathy, you avoid having to face your own embarrassment and pain and anger by avoiding the other person's face. And basically that does sound like cowardice when you think about what you are indulging in.

On the one hand you insist that you aren't like this when it matters, but then on the other hand you insist that you wish you could be this way, and that everyone is too. But they're not. I mean, is it only cowardice when other people can see it? Aren't you still a bitch when it's anonymous. You're still accountable for your words on here. And how do you know so much time spent letting your ID go wild won't affect your life outside?

[Qdrop]

You know why? Because inside you are this way, you desire to inflict pain and embarrassment and anger and apparently the only thing keeping you from doing this, is the other person's face, the reflection of yourself in them, sympathy, you avoid having to face your own embarrassment and pain and anger by avoiding the other person's face.

it's the human condition....
and none of you are any differant....you just tell yourselves you are.
if you ever said anything on this board that you wouldn't in public, it's the same thing.
whether it's a general comment to all....or a personal attack on one...the anonymity of the internet alters your personality- because it takes away many inhibitions.
that does NOT mean that the "true" person is "coming out".
that's like saying how a person acts when they are drunk is the "real" them.
your personality is made up your ambitions AND your inhibitions. to take away either shows not your true self.

people don't realize that much of thier sympathy and civility is not purely internal, but brought about by external cues.
reciprocity, etc...

it's a very COMMON concept on here....it has many names, INTERNET BALLS and all that...
whatever the naming convention used....it's the same reasons behind it....and to simply call it "cowardice" is an oversimplification.

[Qdrop]

On the one hand you insist that you aren't like this when it matters, but then on the other hand you insist that you wish you could be this way, and that everyone is too.
NO, that is NOT what i'm saying.

this is NOT how i "wish" i could be.

another common misconception perpetuated.

[Lex Diamonds]

The internet is Q's bit on the side. Some people have a mistress, Q has a message board. He secretly uses it to feel like a bad boy, unbeknownst to his woman and friends.

[Nuzzolese]

it's the human condition....


And it's weak to give in to it in situations where it's easy to. It's weak, you can admit that, can't you?

[Qdrop]

The internet is Q's bit on the side. Some people have a mistress, Q has a message board. He secretly uses it to feel like a bad boy, unbeknownst to his woman and friends.
jenny and most of my friends know of this board and have access to it.
we are all Beastie heads....

you are very good at being wrong.

[Lex Diamonds]

jenny and most of my friends know of this board and have access to it.
we are all Beastie heads....

you are very good at being wrong.
My mistake. I didn't realise you and your friends were such a wild bunch.

[Loppfessor]

And it's weak to give in to it in situations where it's easy to. It's weak, you can admit that, can't you?


Not gonna happen sister, Q's dad was the Cobra Kai instructor from Karate Kid and taught him that mercy is for the weak!! He can't admit weakness or he'll get a roundhouse to the jaw.

[Qdrop]

And it's weak to give in to it in situations where it's easy to. It's weak, you can admit that, can't you?

why is it giving in?
why is it weak?

for example: perhaps it can sometimes be BETTER that i or others can speak without inhibitions...because we "tell it like it is" or are more honest.
our true personality would just bite our tongue because we don't want to upset someone or cause a huge confrontation, when i fact...that may be what the other person needs to check themselves.

[Lo_Lyfe]

Not gonna happen sister, Q's dad was the Cobra Kai instructor from Karate Kid and taught him that mercy is for the weak!! He can't admit weakness or he'll get a roundhouse to the jaw.
*gong smash*

q catches L's, you cant catch a break yo. give it up.

[Qdrop]

Not gonna happen sister, Q's dad was the Cobra Kai instructor from Karate Kid and taught him that mercy is for the weak!! He can't admit weakness or he'll get a roundhouse to the jaw.

that was hilarious, Lopp.
we'll just add that to your long list of super hilarious posts that you just think are so fucking funny and clever.

what a wild and apt popculture referance.

[Loppfessor]

*gong smash*

q catches L's, you cant catch a break yo. give it up.


Oh quiet you and give me that damn mallot....that shit made me laugh so poop on you

[Qdrop]

*gong smash*

q catches L's, you cant catch a break yo. give it up.

are you related to Gmile?

an alias perhaps?

[Lex Diamonds]

Qdrop using sarcasm as a substitute for humour/meaningful content? Well I never.

[g-mile7]

are you related to Gmile?

an alias perhaps?


Run the IP's I have no alias.

[Qdrop]

Run the IP's I have no alias.

dude, you responded to that in under 20 seconds.

you fucking lurker.

stop stalking me.....

you are beyond creepy.

[Loppfessor]

that was hilarious, Lopp.
we'll just add that to your long list of super hilarious posts that you just think are so fucking funny and clever.

what a wild and apt popculture referance.

Hey you are the only one who appreciates your posts...so why can't I be the only one enjoying mine? Although I doubt that's the case cus damn this shit is gold baby

[g-mile7]

dude, you responded to that in under 20 seconds.

you fucking lurker.

stop stalking me.....

you are beyond creepy.


Whose stalking you? Have I replyed to any of your excessive bullshit in this thread? Not untill you felt the need to be funny. Your sad, as was proven by my post in YOUR thread addressing me as well as yourself.



2osecs huh? (your post:9:13, mine 9:15)=owned

[Nuzzolese]

why is it giving in?
why is it weak?

for example: perhaps it can sometimes be BETTER that i or others can speak without inhibitions...because we "tell it like it is" or are more honest.
our true personality would just bite our tongue because we don't want to upset someone or cause a huge confrontation, when i fact...that may be what they need to check themselves.


No, there's nothing weak about expressing opinions, but to purposely insult and cause embarrassment and anger and pain when you can get away with it, so to speak. It's not simply more honest, it's more irresponsible too. If you don't see that as weak character then I suppose that's just your values. Just because something is natural or human, or even common, it doesn't make it justified. You explain why you do things, why things happen, but don't justify them, or explain why they SHOULD happen. I think you're looking at the ends justifying the means. I'm not surprised I disagree with you again on something like what's important in a character trait. This is just how you like to live. You were raised differently than I was. You personally justify much more aggressive behavior than I would in situations like cosmo in the car. You want to spank your children. All different from me.

[Qdrop]

No, there's nothing weak about expressing opinions, but to purposely insult and cause embarrassment and anger and pain when you can get away with it, so to speak. It's not simply more honest, it's more irresponsible too. If you don't see that as weak character then I suppose that's just your values. Just because something is natural or human, or even common, it doesn't make it justified. You explain why you do things, why things happen, but don't justify them, or explain why they SHOULD happen. I think you're looking at the ends justifying the means. I'm not surprised I disagree with you again on something like what's important in a character trait. This is just how you like to live. You were raised differently than I was. You personally justify much more aggressive behavior than I would in situations like cosmo in the car. You want to spank your children. All different from me.

while being aggressive with assholes on the road and possibley spanking my children in the future are true crossovers in my real life.....you are still unfairly making the leap between my posts on here and my personality in real life.
you are still discounting inhibitions as a part of ones personality....
you are still basically saying that if i do it on this board, i must want to really do it "deep down" in real life.

how the fuck can you call me out on my values when you have never, and never will meet me...unless i have a laundry list of posts recounting real-life events that reflect my values?
you are going soley on my tone in my posts.
how presumptuous.

[Nuzzolese]

You know what? That's not what I'm saying. Forget it.

[Qdrop]

You know what? That's not what I'm saying. Forget it.

well than please explain further.

[Nuzzolese]

I pretty much said what I had to say. I thought it was clear. I'm sorry, I guess I'm having trouble staying involved. Maybe reread what I already posted, it might make sense a second time? I'm going to go play Kingdom of Loathing.

[Qdrop]

...If you don't see that as weak character then I suppose that's just your values. Just because something is natural or human, or even common, it doesn't make it justified. You explain why you do things, why things happen, but don't justify them, or explain why they SHOULD happen. I think you're looking at the ends justifying the means. I'm not surprised I disagree with you again on something like what's important in a character trait. This is just how you like to live. You were raised differently than I was.


how the fuck can you call me out on my values when you have never, and never will meet me...unless i have a laundry list of posts recounting real-life events that reflect my values?
you are going soley on my tone in my posts.
how presumptuous.

what am i missing?
you're talking about my values and how i was raised...

[Nuzzolese]

what am i missing?
you're talking about my values and how i was raised...

I was just using your upbringing as an example of how you and I differ, and why it doesn't suprise me that we have different values on this, as well as otehr issues. I think something is weak (when I do it, or anyone does it) you don't think it is. That doesn't surprise me that we don't agree. Now I've got a level 11 Crocodile Lord with some fraudwort to collect.

[Qdrop]

I was just using your upbringing as an example of how you and I differ, and why it doesn't suprise me that we have different values on this, as well as otehr issues. I think something is weak (when I do it, or anyone does it) you don't think it is. That doesn't surprise me that we don't agree. Now I've got a level 11 Crocodile Lord with some fraudwort to collect.

making comments on this board contrary to what my real-life personality would allow is not weakness, in fact it could be a "good" thing in some cases.

our not agreeing has nothing to do with either's upbringing.
you simply feel that a lack of inhibitions due to the reasons i listed, are not justifications or even good reasons for being more aggressive or frank on the internet.

i could talk further and give a further explanation/analogies of my stance...
but you are not interested.
ok.
bye.

[Lex Diamonds]

Spit venom in interviews, speakin on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
Until then, I aint even speakin your name
Just keep my name out of your mouth and we can keep it the same, nigguh

[Loppfessor]

what am i missing?
you're talking about my values and how i was raised...


she said to reread not repost dude.....this is all going in my report

<takes out note pad and scribbles in it>

"Doesn't follow simple instructions..."

[kaiser soze]

you forgot to add

"Doesn't play well with others and spits alot."

[hardnox71]

red heads are considered hot over here. you will never hear the term ginger and if you did use it no one would know what you were talking about.
Exactly. I had no fucking idea what Padster was talking about until I kept reading. I've never heard that 'ginger person' phrase before. It's odd because, like you said, redheads are worshipped over here.

[Qdrop]

if you haven't had sex with a redhead....you haven't lived.

that's all i'm gonna say about that....

[Loppfessor]

if you haven't had sex with a redhead....you haven't lived.

that's all i'm gonna say about that....


Well it's nice to know there are some things we can all agree on....cus damn

[zippo]

qdrop, i have a feeling youre acting as if you dont understand whats been said to you and changing the meaning of things. nuzz clearly stated that the problem lied within: "purposely insulting and causing embarrassment and anger and pain when you can get away with it (on the net)", something youve already admitted to repeatedly. when she doubted your values, she was doubting the values you go by on the net, not in real life, cuz she, as well as i, disagree with the way you permit yourself the aggresive freedom you go by on here. and yea, alot of people on here do the same thing, but were not talking about anyone else, were talking about you, id say the one that mostly fails to control himself when it comes time to do it, the most excessive member, you win (is this a good thing to you? being the one that takes most advantage of "internet balls"?) also, were correcting you on the fact that you dont think youre a coward, like you said in your first post.

[Qdrop]

qdrop, i have a feeling youre acting as if you dont understand whats been said to you and changing the meaning of things. nuzz clearly stated that the problem lied within: "purposely insulting and causing embarrassment and anger and pain when you can get away with it (on the net)", something youve already admitted to repeatedly. when she doubted your values, she was doubting the values you go by on the net, not in real life, cuz she, as well as i, disagree with the way you permit yourself the aggresive freedom you go by on here. and yea, alot of people on here do the same thing, but were not talking about anyone else, were talking about you, id say the one that mostly fails to control himself when it comes time to do it, the most excessive member, you win (is this a good thing to you? being the one that takes most advantage of "internet balls"?) also, were correcting you on the fact that you dont think youre a coward, like you said in your first post.

yeah, i reread nuzz's post a couple more times.....it's just kinda convaluted...but like sarky did on the "utopia/dystopia" thread...it's kinda moot based on my previous point.
she's saying my values "on the board" are differant than hers and/or lacking....
when i'm saying "who cares".... that's not really me, nor do any of the screen names on this board truly give accurate representations of the people behind them.
she's saying that my justifications for mine and others actions are basically just rationalizations to be an asshole on a message board.
i say they're objective "reasons", not rationalizations.
our actions are the result of the situations and atmosphere that is present on an online environment like this one.
our "ID gone wild" actions are kind of inevitable.

Nuzz saying my reasons are just justifications or rationalizations....is like saying gravity is just a justification or rationalization for why the planets "decide" to orbit around the earth.
no. that's simply what happens with the universal laws of physics.

[Nuzzolese]

I think you have a little bit more of a choice on how to respond on here, than the planets do on whether they should respond to gravity.

And further more, you say it's not relevant to talk about your values as they are expressed on here, because it's not the real you; then say it's moot to talk about your values in real life because I don't know you. I guess that leaves you in the clear, right?

[Qdrop]

I think you have a little bit more of a choice on how to respond on here, than the planets do on whether they should respond to gravity.

not a perfect analogy....
but you get the point.

i don't want to paint this discussion as me being a determinist, and you being ms. Free Will....

but i'm just saying mine and other's actions on here have pretty basic psychological reasons behind them, and are reacting to the variables provided by an online environment. it's to be expected....and more, to be EXCEPTED.
they are not simply cowardly excuses to act like an asshole.

sure one could put extra effort to imagine and perform on this board as close as they would in real life....but wouldn't THAT be more fake? wouldn't THAT be just be a pretentious theatre production.
and what purpose would it serve?

fuckin A....have fun on here.
it's FUN....

[Nuzzolese]

it's the human condition....
and none of you are any differant....you just tell yourselves you are.
if you ever said anything on this board that you wouldn't in public, it's the same thing.
whether it's a general comment to all....or a personal attack on one...the anonymity of the internet alters your personality- because it takes away many inhibitions.
that does NOT mean that the "true" person is "coming out".
that's like saying how a person acts when they are drunk is the "real" them.
your personality is made up your ambitions AND your inhibitions. to take away either shows not your true self.

people don't realize that much of thier sympathy and civility is not purely internal, but brought about by external cues.
reciprocity, etc...

it's a very COMMON concept on here....it has many names, INTERNET BALLS and all that...
whatever the naming convention used....it's the same reasons behind it....and to simply call it "cowardice" is an oversimplification.

Maybe I'll go back to the beginning and address you piece by piece. You seem to appreciate that.

Like a drunk person letting the alcohol change their reactions, letting the percieved anonymonity here altar your behavior is irresponsible and you avoid accountability for what you said, you avoid taking sympathy with other people. "Yeah, it was the liquor talking, it was the message board making me do it." If someone gets drunk with the intention of speaking without responsibility to other people? It's not the "true" person so to speak, but it is the person who made the choice and is held accountable. A little more aggressive tactics are forgivable given the environment, but it's still Qdrop, not Bradd. And Qdrop is all we know so that's all I'm talking about. You say it's not relevant to talk about "Qdrop" because it's just the message board version of you. Well this is the message board version of me talking, so doesn't that put us back at the same level?

[Qdrop]

And further more, you say it's not relevant to talk about your values as they are expressed on here, because it's not the real you; then say it's moot to talk about your values in real life because I don't know you. I guess that leaves you in the clear, right?

it leaves us ALL in the clear to be free of value judgements by others on our true selves, yes.

unless, again, a certain poster litters the board with threads about true-life personal stories that one could draw some examples from.

i rarely do that.

feel free to say what you want about my "internet ID" i guess.
just keep it in perspective.

[Nuzzolese]

not a perfect analogy....
but you get the point.

i don't want to paint this discussion as me being a determinist, and you being ms. Free Will....

but i'm just saying mine and other's actions on here have pretty basic psychological reasons behind them, and are reacting to the variables provided by an online environment. it's to be expected....and more, to be EXCEPTED.
they are not simply cowardly excuses to act like an asshole.

sure one could put extra effort to imagine and perform on this board as close as they would in real life....but wouldn't THAT be more fake? wouldn't THAT be just be a pretentious theatre production.
and what purpose would it serve?

fuckin A....have fun on here.
it's FUN....

I do agree that it's fun. I know the discussion environment here is unique to internet. I still think it's weak to be reactionary and to intentionally upset people, especially when you do it only because you think you're not accountable for what you say.

[na§tee]

hello! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=69191)

qdrop always fills this lull i have from lunchtime till the end of work with activity galore. i may not agree with any or all of his guff (there's a uk term for you q!) but reading people discuss, argue, bitch about, assume, shout and rant about things is infinitely more engaging than watching the same front page of the guardian for four hours.

[Nuzzolese]

it leaves us ALL in the clear to be free of value judgements by others on our true selves, yes.

unless, again, a certain poster litters the board with threads about true-life personal stories that one could draw some examples from.

i rarely do that.

feel free to say what you want about my "internet ID" i guess.
just keep it in perspective.

And your "internet ID" is all I'm talking about. When I said we disagreed on values in our personal lives I was saying that because of that, it doesn't surprise me that we disagree in how we think about these internet relationships too. But when you talk about your thoughts on racism or parenting, is that still just your ID gone wild? It's not your real life opnion? If a certain poster litters the board with true life stories...I could imagine that would be his or her ID gone wild too, indulging in that kind of thing, exaggerating, just for fun.

[Nuzzolese]

not a perfect analogy....
but you get the point.

....

Right, you can't help yourself.

[Qdrop]

Like a drunk person letting the alcohol change their reactions, letting the percieved anonymonity here altar your behavior is irresponsible and you avoid accountability for what you said, you avoid taking sympathy with other people. "Yeah, it was the liquor talking, it was the message board making me do it." If someone gets drunk with the intention of speaking without responsibility to other people? It's not the "true" person so to speak, but it is the person who made the choice and is held accountable. but one does not necessarily get drunk JUST so they can act like an asshole and have an excuse to do so.
sure, some do....just like some come on the internet JUST to be troll.

one drinks to be free of inhibitions (among other things)...and only sometimes does that result in being an asshole.
thus, it would be wrong to say the reason i come here is to be an asshole....
i come here to be free of certain inhibitions...and yes, sometimes that CAN result in me being an asshole.

just A little more aggressive tactics are forgivable given the environment, but it's still Qdrop, not Bradd. And Qdrop is all we know so that's all I'm talking about. You say it's not relevant to talk about "Qdrop" because it's just the message board version of you. Well this is the message board version of me talking, so doesn't that put us back at the same level?
okay, comment on my "Qdrop nature"....
just keep in perspective....
sound good?
it just seems kinda silly considering the reasons FOR my "Qdrop nature" that i listed above. it's like criticizing gravity.

[Qdrop]

But when you talk about your thoughts on racism or parenting, is that still just your ID gone wild? It's not your real life opnion? yes, i would say those ARE "true life accounts" that one could judge BRADD on .

If a certain poster litters the board with true life stories...I could imagine that would be his or her ID gone wild too, indulging in that kind of thing, exaggerating, just for fun. if you believe they are exaggerating perhaps.

[Qdrop]

Right, you can't help yourself.

"helping myself" would be a fake act...one in which i would have mentally "imagine" the same inhibitors i experiance in real life.

why bother coming here in that case?

[Nuzzolese]

but one does not necessarily get drunk JUST so they can act like an asshole and have an excuse to do so.
sure, some do....just like some come on the internet JUST to be troll.

I was under the impression that's what you do.


one drinks to be free of inhibitions (among other things)...and only sometimes does that result in being an asshole.
thus, it would be wrong to say the reason i come here is to be an asshole....
i come here to be free of certain inhibitions...and yes, sometimes that CAN result in me being an asshole.


Ha! Yes, SOMETIMES that CAN result in you being an asshole. You mean, you come here to be free of responsibility, to avoid it. To avoid having to feel that annoying sympathy for people. See I think that's weak. I mean I do it too and I think it's weak when I do it. When I take advantage of that freedom of responsiblity and carelessly hurt people. It's weak of me.


okay, comment on my "Qdrop nature"....
just keep in perspective....
sound good?
it just seems kinda silly considering the reasons FOR my "Qdrop nature" that i listed above. it's like criticizing gravity.

I certainly will comment it. And this whole gravity analogy, you're just saying you don't have a choice. The forces around you make you this way. The devil made you do it!

[Qdrop]

hello! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=69191)

qdrop always fills this lull i have from lunchtime till the end of work with activity galore. i may not agree with any or all of his guff (there's a uk term for you q!) but reading people discuss, argue, bitch about, assume, shout and rant about things is infinitely more engaging than watching the same front page of the guardian for four hours.

what am i....a clown?
do you think i'm a fuckin clown....here to amuse you?
[/joe pesci voice]

[Nuzzolese]

"helping myself" would be a fake act...one in which i would have mentally "imagine" the same inhibitors i experiance in real life.

why bother coming here in that case?

Good question! Well, maybe to connect with other people or to talk about things for outside discussion, to stretch your capacity for compassion for other people? Then again, I don't think you value that very highly. Not as highly as telling it like it is.

[Qdrop]

I was under the impression that's what you do.
thanks alot, jerk.

i thought YOU thought better of me.

E TU, Nuzz?

(i don't know latin)


Ha! Yes, SOMETIMES that CAN result in you being an asshole. You mean, you come here to be free of responsibility, to avoid it. To avoid having to feel that annoying sympathy for people. See I think that's weak. I mean I do it too and I think it's weak when I do it. When I take advantage of that freedom of responsiblity and carelessly hurt people. It's weak of me. what you call "weakness", i call the lure and near "purpose" of a message board.



I certainly will comment it. And this whole gravity analogy, you're just saying you don't have a choice. The forces around you make you this way. The devil made you do it! the "devil" allowed me to do it.

[Qdrop]

Then again, I don't think you value that very highly. Not as highly as telling it like it is.

there, see...
you GET me.

[Nuzzolese]

Okay so what does everyone else think? Do you come here becuase you can exaggerate and be free of inhibitions and not be held responsible? Or do you think that's a weakness that comes out in this environment, when you initially come here to make personal connections and learn and get your (real life) voice out there?

[zorra_chiflada]

i used to a lot more. just be an asshole cos i could. i don't so much now.

[Lex Diamonds]

i used to a lot more. just be an asshole cos i could. i don't so much now.
FUCK OFF BITCH NO ONE CARES!!!!

[na§tee]

Okay so what does everyone else think? Do you come here becuase you can exaggerate and be free of inhibitions and not be held responsible? Or do you think that's a weakness that comes out in this environment, when you initially come here to make personal connections and learn and get your (real life) voice out there?
good question.

well, it depends what you define as "inhibitions". i certainly don't have any strong desire to cause havoc and hurt people's feelings just for the craic because i am, you could argue, just a faceless person on some internet message board.

the only inhibitions i am free from are maybe the tendency to be closed off, shy, lonely sometimes. in that sense it is only a good thing that these inhibitions (if you can really call them that) are released when i'm here. i have become a more socially adept, informed and generally aware person by being here, i think. i think. (of course, other factors have helped but still.. a little bit!)

and also, even if i did come here to "break free" of course i would care about the repercussions, the "responsibility". because, to some people, i am not faceless or a nerd or boring. some people actually give a shit. and i give a shit that, uh, they give a shit. so i do care. i do care about how some other people feel.

people who come on message boards just to cause shit because the person they are attacking is behind this apparent mask of anonymity, and feel this is cool because they don't have to be responsible are making a gross miscalculation on the effect their comments can have on another person.

i was thinking this the other day: what makes certain behaviours acceptable on an online environment like this because they have been deemed "artificial" and "not real life"? i really would challenge that. if anything, an environment like this creates a much more "real" environment than certainly i encounter on a day to day basis. it is more full of individuals, opinions and experiences than i witness going to work, coming back from work, seeing mostly the same people saying the same things every single day.

ya dig?

[Nuzzolese]

I can dig it.

[hardnox71]

FUCK OFF BITCH NO ONE CARES!!!!
Bravo!!(y)

[g-mile7]

Okay so what does everyone else think? Do you come here becuase you can exaggerate and be free of inhibitions and not be held responsible? Or do you think that's a weakness that comes out in this environment, when you initially come here to make personal connections and learn and get your (real life) voice out there?



I also come here because people fascinate me. I try and meet as many people as I can to get diffrent views on life from their side and given I lack the funds to travel this is as good as I will get to getting a representation of thier surrondings. Although I really do think it is sort of weakness, unless the person does have alot going in their life and this board (like a punching bag of sorts) gets the stress out. Although there are plenty of people that are living in a fantasy world where they can be who they want to be without any repercussions. They will continue to live in this fanatasy untill someone or something makes it a reality, only then will they change.

[Qdrop]

They will continue to live in this fanatasy untill someone or something makes it a reality, only then will they change.

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE THREATENING US!!

HE'S GOT A KNIFE!!

[g-mile7]

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE THREATENING US!!

HE'S GOT A KNIFE!!


Only my words kid, only my words. Thanks for the inspiration.

[Qdrop]

Thanks for the inspiration.

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND KNIFE ME!

OH MY GOD!

[g-mile7]

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND KNIFE ME!

OH MY GOD!


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j94/lockedandloadedkillah/louisf.jpg

[Qdrop]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j94/lockedandloadedkillah/louisf.jpg

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE A RACIST!





OH MY GOD!

[g-mile7]

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE A RACIST!





OH MY GOD!


Only with you sucka;)

[hpdrifter]

I agree with nastee (sorry, I don't know where the little symbol is).

I actually don't like getting into arguments with people here or generally on the internet. Being yelled at or called names here is very similar, to me, to having it happen in real life, its uncomfortable and makes me feel bad.

I think I generally behave here as I would with physical people. Except the fact that its not real time gives me a chance to feel clever every so often.

And lots of the time it makes me laugh. Knuckles in Sure Shots, Mikey's (increasingly rare) commentary. Bob's posts, man there are some funny mfs around here.