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Qdrop
08-01-2006, 11:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14134156/

Scientists take step toward obesity vaccine
Studies on rats found vaccinated animals could eat without gaining weight
Updated: 9:50 a.m. ET Aug 1, 2006

NEW YORK - In what could become a new weapon in the battle of the bulge, scientists on Monday reported initial success with an experimental vaccine for obesity.

The researchers found that when they gave rats a vaccine against a “hunger hormone” called ghrelin, the animals were able to live the dream of eating what they wanted without packing on body fat.

The findings, published online by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggest a whole new approach to weight loss.

It’s a long way, however, from success in rats to similar results in people.

More research in animals and more data on safety will be needed before an obesity vaccine is widely tested in humans, according to Dr. Kim Janda of the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California.

One of the next steps will be to see whether ghrelin vaccination helps already obese rodents shed pounds, Janda told Reuters Health. If a vaccine were to become a reality for humans, it would be aimed at those obese individuals who continually “yo-yo” through diet and exercise, he noted.

Secreted primarily by the stomach, ghrelin is one of the hormones that help regulate appetite, metabolism and weight. Ghrelin levels rise before a meal, putting the brakes on calorie burning and fat breakdown, then decline after a person eats. The hormone promotes weight gain and fat storage.

Janda and his colleagues aimed to decrease the hormone’s activity with an anti-ghrelin vaccine. To do that, they created three ghrelin-recognizing antigens -- proteins that elicit an immune reaction.

Immune reaction
When Janda’s team administered their antigens to rats, they found that two of the antigens were able to bind to the active form of ghrelin, which then triggered the animals’ immune systems to produce antibodies against the hormone.

“We’re training the immune system to recognize ghrelin,” Janda said.

This immune reaction apparently had effects on the animals’ metabolism. Despite having free access to food and eating as much as their unvaccinated mates, the immunized rats gained less weight and boasted leaner, less flabby physiques.

That the weight effects came without diet changes was a surprise, Janda said. It means that the ghrelin vaccine acted on metabolism, and not appetite, he explained.

“They were eating the same, but still losing weight — which is pretty cool.”

Still, the human body’s control of hunger, metabolism and weight is very complex, Janda noted. A highly integrated system involving the brain, nerves and numerous hormones strives to keep body weight stable, especially when calorie intake drops -- a fact that “wasn’t a problem” back in the hunter-gatherer days of scarce food supplies, Janda pointed out.

Whether a ghrelin vaccine can safely and effectively alter this system remains to be seen.
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yeah, cause just eating healthier is just too hard.

monkey
08-01-2006, 11:49 AM
the effects of ghrelin have been known in the scientific community for a long time. it's been hailed as that miracle drug for the same amount of time. for the people who actually suffer from a disease which makes them obese, this could be great. not everyone is obese because they eat too much mcd's.

Qdrop
08-01-2006, 11:51 AM
the effects of ghrelin have been known in the scientific community for a long time. it's been hailed as that miracle drug for the same amount of time. for the people who actually suffer from a disease which makes them obese, this could be great. not everyone is obese because they eat too much mcd's.

but you KNOW this drug will be end up being used by FAR more than just the tiny % who suffer from rare genetic disorders that cause them to gain weight.

it will give people a false sense of health, and do nothing for thier cholesterol, nutrient defacits, muscle mass....
sad...

Dorothy Wood
08-01-2006, 11:52 AM
ima find one a them rats and eat em.

TurdBerglar
08-01-2006, 11:53 AM
they should just pump this shit into the cattle and make some really lean cuts (y)

Yeti
08-01-2006, 11:55 AM
Hardnox could eat ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Qdrop
08-01-2006, 11:55 AM
they should just pump this shit into the cattle and make some really lean cuts (y)

they should stop funding for this, and funnel that money to cancer and AIDS research....
and tell people to take control of thier own health.

monkey
08-01-2006, 11:57 AM
thats the wrong attitude regarding research. it's the same attitude conservatives had in the 80's about AIDS research (it only affects the gays and the blacks! why do it!)

all research should be well-funded, and if you're looking for money, try the war chests.

Qdrop
08-01-2006, 12:08 PM
thats the wrong attitude regarding research. it's the same attitude conservatives had in the 80's about AIDS research (it only affects the gays and the blacks! why do it!)

all research should be well-funded, and if you're looking for money, try the war chests.

well the reality of this reseach, and others....is that is NOT driven by the good of humanity or the passion to help people with glandular problems...
it's likely driven by private investors and drug companies that see it as a future GIGANTIC cash cow...from people who DO want to eat whatever they want and be a size 1.
drug companies are driven by profit.

and in our image-obsessed culture...what better avenue to go after?