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abcdefz
08-04-2006, 12:43 PM
Yeah. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1153567-the_descent/) This is supposed to be pretty scary stuff. The trailer (http://imdb.com/title/tt0435625/trailers)looked good.

ET
08-04-2006, 12:46 PM
I wanna say 1 because I wouldn't pay to see it, 5 if they show tittays.(y)

abcdefz
08-04-2006, 12:53 PM
It's actually supposed to be good.

Rock
08-04-2006, 01:09 PM
im gonna go check it out tomorrow. im sure its gonna be another shitty horror movie, but the wife is all bout it bout it. i will admit though...the premise is kind of cool.

abcdefz
08-04-2006, 01:13 PM
It's getting a lot of love. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1153567-the_descent/)

jackrock
08-04-2006, 05:39 PM
Can the blood match Dead Alive? Doubt it.

Beckalina
08-04-2006, 05:44 PM
from what I can remember it was pretty good. The end was a bit shit, I think.

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Rock
08-06-2006, 10:32 AM
I would wait for hbo or something like that. The first hour and 15 minutes was all set up and took waaaay too long. When things did start to get good, the action sequences were way too fast to tell what was going on. It wasn't a mind fuck scary. it wasn't a gorey kind of scary. It was just a pop out of nowhere scary.
The part that bothered me most was when they ladies would be like "WOW!! THIS IS BEAUTIFUL" and i would wait for them to show the cave, but they just showed reactions on people's faces instead of whatever was sooo beautiful. I know thats a little thing, but it bothered me because it happened more than once.
I do want to see the original version though to see how it ended. if i ever get myhands on it, ill just forward all the way to the end.
Overall....it was ok. But definitely now worth shelling out a movie tickets worth of money to, or leaving the house actually.

Yorkshire~Rose
08-06-2006, 12:45 PM
from what I can remember it was pretty good. The end was a bit shit, I think.

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Hey Becky long time no see!

I gave it 8/10 - it's poo yer pants stuff. (y)

sercomdj01
08-06-2006, 03:29 PM
I liked it. It was pretty decent stuff. A step away from the crappy horrors that are everywhere at the moment.


Dog soldiers, you should check that out his other film. It owns :D

abcdefz
08-06-2006, 04:40 PM
It had its problems, but it's worth matinee money.

The women weren't very well defined, so when things were getting hairy, and the party would get split up, some character would ask about another or it would cut to another character and all I knew was that it was another body. I think I remember four names of the six or so women, and I could only pick out three of them. That kind of hurts, because it cuts down a lot on the empathy.

The creatures were pretty darned cool as designs. I liked the fact that they didn't exactly have superhuman strength, so the fights were more evenly matched than I would've expected. The women actually had a chance, so that's cool.

Most of the hand-to-hand action did happen way too fast, like Rock said. Not quite as bad as Batman Begins -- and I understand the aesthetic, but here, I think you really needed to grasp the geography of the fighting so it would've been more suspenseful.

Some of the other cinematography was great, though. There were some great shows. I actually "got it" when they lit up one of the caverns and said, "It's so BEAUTIFUL!" because it really was. That shot actually gave me my first indication for why people would want to bother with spelunking, anyway.

Could've been sharper, could've been great. Instead, it's a good ride one time through.

7/10

icy manipulator
08-08-2006, 08:30 AM
oh i saw this a while ago. pretty good movie, good idea for a horror film. but yeah the ending is shit 7/10

Rock
08-08-2006, 08:39 AM
oh i saw this a while ago. pretty good movie, good idea for a horror film. but yeah the ending is shit 7/10
are you talking about the original ending or the new ending?
i believe it was the last 30 seconds that was changed here for us in the United States.

icy manipulator
08-08-2006, 08:54 AM
are you talking about the original ending or the new ending?
i believe it was the last 30 seconds that was changed here for us in the United States.
hmm, i dont know, one of my housemate's downloaded it. it was probably the original ending. it was a couple of months ago that i saw it

abcdefz
08-08-2006, 09:00 AM
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In the U.S. version, Sara (?) climbs out, gets in the car and drives off, pulls over to side of the road, pukes, and when she sits back up, Juno (Juno's ghost, whatever) is sitting in the passenger seat. She screams.



In the U.K. version, she screams, wakes up in the cave and sees the girl's birthday cake (or something like that), but it turns out she's hallucinating and it's just a torch. But she's still stuck in the cave and has hallucinated the entire escape. (From there, I don't know if crawlers are coming for her or not, but the impication is clear that she's trapped and doomed.)








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beastieangel01
08-08-2006, 12:58 PM
it was alright. Entertaining enough. I wanted to know more about the creatures or perhaps more about the women, the two that it obviously centered on. It was just a "gist" of things, and nothing deeper. So I was like "okay that was suspenseful but what the fuck did I just watch?"

abcdefz
08-08-2006, 01:00 PM
it was alright. Entertaining enough. I wanted to know more about the creatures or perhaps more about the women, the two that it obviously centered on. It was just a "gist" of things, and nothing deeper. So I was like "okay that was suspenseful but what the fuck did I just watch?"



I was fine with what we knew about the creatures, but the women were way too ill-defined, as characters or even by looks. Once people started getting bloody, I couldn't always tell who I was looking at, and it's not like you can sense a lot of geography in caves, so it would cut to a different area or person and I wouldn't even know where I was at points.

beastieangel01
08-08-2006, 01:05 PM
the reason why I wanted to know more is because I thought we would get more


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ok so you know how they take that dead one and that chick says "what are we fighting here?" etc etc... I thought that was indication that we'd learn more about them or, some crap I dunno. I can understand wanting to know what they are fighting, but the way it was delivered.... I just thought there'd be more to that. *shrug

abcdefz
08-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Isn't that when they realized the things were blind?

Anyway, I guess there just wasn't much they could do, which was why I was fine with it. Presumably, it's an unknown species, so the audience is in the position of knowing as little as the main characters.

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Sara hacking Juno in the leg and leaving her for the crawlers to kill. It just seemed too ruthless and unneccessary. Maybe if it were made clearer that both couldn't escape, but maybe one COULD.

But also: if the things were blind, what was preventing them from going aboveground? It's not like it was established that they were SENSITIVE to light -- they were BLIND.



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08-08-2006, 01:12 PM
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I liked that she hacked her in the leg. Survival instinct basically. Even without a lot of information I think we can come to the conclusion that the crawlers would be too busy with Juno for a while and that would give Sara a bit of time to get away. Though I think some more information or clues as to WHY that is the case especially in this scenario would have been nice.

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abcdefz
08-08-2006, 01:14 PM
That was my initial reaction -- and that it was supposed to be vegeance of a sort. But once I thought about it some more, I think it was less satisfying.

Still -- worth the matinee money. And I like the crawlers a lot.

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08-08-2006, 01:53 PM
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the reason sara left/fucked up juno is because sara thought juno killed beth, not just leaving her to die. and because her necklace was proof that her husband and juno were getting dirty together (remember the feather pendant that said "Love Each Day") which made the husband "so distant" in the car trip because he was thinking about her, which made them get in an accident. which killed the little girl.

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abcdefz
08-08-2006, 01:55 PM
Okay, now -- that makes more sense.

I was a few minutes late to the screening. Walked in, saw two girls hugging in a hospital corridor, then: "Two years later" or whatever.

Danke.

DandyFop
08-10-2006, 10:23 AM
Okay, now -- that makes more sense.

I was a few minutes late to the screening. Walked in, saw two girls hugging in a hospital corridor, then: "Two years later" or whatever.

Danke.

Yeah, you missed out on the beginning which was pretty great and subtle with Juno and Sarah's husband bullshite.


I saw it last night and I have to honestly say I don't think I have ever been so scared in my life. I was stressed out the entire time, and I have never reacted like that to a film before. I don't know what it was, but jesus, my body was still reacting hours later from all the adrenaline that had been going through it. I think they did a really great job...

steve-onpoint
08-10-2006, 01:28 PM
I heard it's half descent.

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08-14-2006, 10:30 AM
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Sara hacking Juno in the leg and leaving her for the crawlers to kill. It just seemed too ruthless and unneccessary. Maybe if it were made clearer that both couldn't escape, but maybe one COULD.





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Ok. just saw this over the weekend - regarding this point that you just made, a-z... i would've done more than just hack the bitch in the leg if i'd found out about her and my husband on top of her leaving my best friend for dead... just sayin'...

Rock
08-14-2006, 10:48 AM
but what did you think of it?

im hearing all these people saying how scary it was and what not....i just don't get it.
it wasn't THAT great of a movie.

kll
08-14-2006, 10:57 AM
but what did you think of it?

im hearing all these people saying how scary it was and what not....i just don't get it.
it wasn't THAT great of a movie.

I liked it. It kept me entertained. I jumped a LOT. As a-z said, I didn't get too emotionally invested into any of the characters though and even with the main character and all the tragedy she'd lived through, I didn't really get into her. Juno appeared to be more hurt about the deaths than she did. I would recommend it though. We speculated last night as to what the sequel would/could be like, so it kept us talking about it, which means it did its job.

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08-14-2006, 11:09 AM
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To me, the truly scary part was when the woman got stuck crawling in the narrow passage -- that sequence, as the cave-in threatened. That had me going "oh fuck gotta get outta here." I think I pretty much decided right then never no never.

The stuff with the crawlers wasn't so much scary or disturbing -- more creepy, intriguing, and a little thrilling. Like I said, I dug them as character designs.




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08-14-2006, 11:33 AM
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To me, the truly scary part was when the woman got stuck crawling in the narrow passage -- that sequence, as the cave-in threatened. That had me going "oh fuck gotta get outta here." I think I pretty much decided right then never no never.

The stuff with the crawlers wasn't so much scary or disturbing -- more creepy, intriguing, and a little thrilling. Like I said, I dug them as character designs.




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TOTALLY!!! I was feeling terribly claustrophobic.

abcdefz
08-14-2006, 11:41 AM
I think the sequel should be My Dinner with Crawler. A hiker wanders into the cave and winds up having a lengthy discussion about philosophy and theatre over a quiet, lovely meal.

ToucanSpam
08-14-2006, 05:41 PM
I saw this movie a week and a half ago and I have to say it was terrible. There was nothing but gore gore gore gore. And not the Al kind.

There was way too many female metaphors (blood in a cave in an all woman cast, etc.) and not enough lesbians.:rolleyes:

Yorkshire~Rose
08-15-2006, 02:06 AM
There was way too many female metaphors (blood in a cave in an all woman cast, etc.)

I think you're reading a tad too much into the film toucan. Just enjoy a film for what it is!