Support the Troops?

[Jitters]

I've been thinking about this for a while, everyone that says "support the troops" is almost always opposed to the war. My question is how can this be? The troops are the ones fighting the war..... so how can you "support the troops" and be against the war? Let me go ahead and say that I dont believe in war and definitely not the army so if I'm being ignorant I apologize, I just want to get some light shed on this.

[racer5.0stang]

Let me go ahead and say that I dont believe in war and definitely not the army

So, are you saying that you don't believe that they exist or for their necessity?

In either case, maybe you should take a trip to Israel or Lebanon. It might change your point of view.

But in reference to your question, I think most people want to support the people who are fighting but not necessarily the cause.

[Pres Zount]

Support the troops by bringing them back ALIVE rather than DEAD.

Support them by giving them an honest reason for fighting, instead of lies.

[Documad]

I sometimes have a "support the troops" ribbon on my car, but it's always next to a bumper sticker for an anti-war candidate. I do it on purpose to show that there are ways to support the troops without endorsing the policies of the idiots who put them in harms way for no good reason.

Some people here have a "support the troops by bringing them home" sticker.

[QueenAdrock]

Support the troops by bringing them back ALIVE rather than DEAD.

Support them by giving them an honest reason for fighting, instead of lies.

Exactly. My friend just got home from Iraq, and I supported him the whole time he was there. Sent him Christmas cards, pictures, emails, everything. I supported getting him the fuck outta there alive, back to his wife and baby daughter. I wasn't about to be like "YAY, WAR! Keep him over there until his daughter is talking! Woo, war!"

I personally don't see how you can support the troops and want them over there, being shot at. The other side has the audacity to say that WE'RE the ones who are against the troops, though they're the ones who are advocating them being in a high-violence zone while we want them home safe. It's always puzzled me.

[Whatitis]

By all means support the troops, they need it the most. Like Queen did. Sending the cards, packages, something to give them a little bit of home while they are abroad and dealing with the fucked up shit they have to deal with. I wear one of thoe "support the troops" wrist bands and some people give me a look of why would I support this war. I don't, I say and they get a little baffled by it. I know what it is like to be a peon soldier doing what your trained(brainwashed) to do. Even during peace time it's a tough life and while deployed for war it's an unbelievably horrible life. They might be soldiers but they are human.

[Jitters]

So, are you saying that you don't believe that they exist or for their necessity?

In either case, maybe you should take a trip to Israel or Lebanon. It might change your point of view.


I don't see the necessity in the army and to address your other comment, how can we spread democracy at the end of a gun? Most Middle Easterners don't want us over there, this is something they should work out on their own, it would be like if China invaded us and tried to get us to be Communists, if we wanted to be Communists then we would already have that governing system.

[racer5.0stang]

I don't see the necessity in the army

I guess in your eyes the world is one big happy place where countries do not need protection from the people who surround it as well as the people who live with in it. I would like to visit that place someday but I fear that only one person can fit under that rock.

Most Middle Easterners don't want us over there, this is something they should work out on their own,

Yeah that has obviously worked out well.

[Jitters]

Wow, harsh, just forget it then, all I wanted to know is if I was the only one who thought this way and apparentely I do and I should be killed for my beliefs :(

[racer5.0stang]

Wow, harsh, just forget it then, all I wanted to know is if I was the only one who thought this way and apparentely I do and I should be killed for my beliefs :(

Yes, now walk the plank.

You shouldn't be so easy to give up your beliefs just because someone doesn't agree with you. But in turn be ready to respond with reasons that based on fact and not hearsay.

For future reference, try not to throw a pity party for yourself it won't get you very far on this board. People like Ace42 won't let you get away with it.

You think I'm harsh, get into a discussion with him.

[Jitters]

Yes, now walk the plank.

You shouldn't be so easy to give up your beliefs just because someone doesn't agree with you. But in turn be ready to respond with reasons that based on fact and not hearsay.

For future reference, try not to throw a pity party for yourself it won't get you very far on this board. People like Ace42 won't let you get away with it.

You think I'm harsh, get into a discussion with him.

This was not only my first thread in the politics section but it was my first post in here too, I had a feeling that people would be critical, people just take politics to seriously anyway, there's no right answers in the world of politics just opinions, so try not to take mine seriously.

[kaiser soze]

I think we should Support the Troops like bush by:

Shitting on the Constitution and the rights of our citizens.
Violating international law.
Sending them into a warzone with inadequate supplies.
Not allowing their caskets to be photographed, shown on television.
Not attending their funerals.
Calling their mourning mothers "Mom" when meeting them after their son died.
Slicing away at their Veterans benefits when they return.
Not helping them for their PTSD and mounting bills when they return.
Discontinuing all flights out of Iraq regardless if the soldiers completed their tour of duty.
Allowing soldiers who commit war crimes to get off easily for their crime.
And everything else I have forgotten that is degrading the honor and character of our soldiers.

yes it is best to support the troops like this

[QueenAdrock]

^You forgot forced extensions on their tours, regardless of what they had been told and signed up for previously.

Sigh. :(

[HAL 9000]

During the last war, I was in the unenviable position of being for the war, but against the troops
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[Bob]

everybody uses "support the troops" as a battle cry, as though "the troops" are this monolithic single-minded collective conscious, and you can support all of them by acting in one particular way...am i wrong in thinking that there's a plurality of opinions among them? you read interviews, and some seem to want to be there, others don't. some think the work they're doing is necessary, some don't. i don't know how you're supposed to support all of them at the same time.

[fucktopgirl]

Support the troops would mean that you support the war . I dont support any of that circus ; lies and lies and lies that are made up to justify thoses atrocities, thoses agenda of "power trip little dick big head full of pocket money control freak assholes man" . I sometime feel a bit of pity for them soldiers, especially the ones that were poors and Army was the only solution out of the misery for them( so they tough anyway..)
But the rest decided to go, it is their choice and i dont support their decision at all. War is the summum of the human stupidity and ignorance, why would i support that?? Why should i applaud people who decided to encourage destruction and suffering?

Nuts to that!!

[QueenAdrock]

Support the troops would mean that you support the war .

Did you even read any of our posts? How about mine? Should I have just said "You're cut off" when my friend found out he was being sent over there? I shouldn't be friends with him and support him through the war because I'm against the war? I should have said "When you signed up for the army back in June 2001, you should have seen this shit happening"? You can support the people who fight and not support the war. News flash, there are quite a few soldiers over there pissed at Bush and not supporting the war themselves. They may have signed up for the army because they believed that the president would only send them to war if necessary, if it was a war we would need to fight; another WWII perhaps. Is it their fault we've got a shit president who sent them to this bullshit war? No, they didn't sign up for bullshit wars. They signed up for defending our country WHEN NECESSARY, and then had this pulled over on them, and if they didn't go it'd be jailtime for them.

[fucktopgirl]

Did you even read any of our posts? How about mine? Should I have just said "You're cut off" when my friend found out he was being sent over there? I shouldn't be friends with him and support him through the war because I'm against the war? I should have said "When you signed up for the army back in June 2001, you should have seen this shit happening"? You can support the people who fight and not support the war. News flash, there are quite a few soldiers over there pissed at Bush and not supporting the war themselves. They may have signed up for the army because they believed that the president would only send them to war if necessary, if it was a war we would need to fight; another WWII perhaps. Is it their fault we've got a shit president who sent them to this bullshit war? No, they didn't sign up for bullshit wars. They signed up for defending our country WHEN NECESSARY, and then had this pulled over on them, and if they didn't go it'd be jailtime for them.


Supporting a friendship is ok! I mean your friend was totally wrong to enrolled in the army but no you should'nt cut the bridge. YOu should have shake him to wake him up tho!

People in usa should start to realised that the war the usa are involved in are not to defend themselves but more to invaded and to take control of ressources of the others country and so on. I mean it is pretty obvious that the reason for war are just based on lies and personnal agenda to gain more power and money. If citizen still believed in bush, god damnit.....i am speechless. There is no justification to stupidity. People sleep on gaz!

But indeed, some soldiers must have wake up when on the field, realised what a bunch of bullshit all this was, i must admit , their illumination came a bit lated......

[racer5.0stang]

Supporting a friendship is ok! I mean your friend was totally wrong to enrolled in the army but no you should'nt cut the bridge. YOu should have shake him to wake him up tho!

You are an idiot.

How are you going to tell someone they are wrong for trying to make the WORLD a better place by putting their LIFE on the line.

I hope you don't join any branch of the military. The soldiers you serve with would probably shoot you just so they wouldn't have to hear your idiotic griping and complaining.

[fucktopgirl]

You are an idiot.

That is really interesting coming from a moron!

How are you going to tell someone they are wrong for trying to make the WORLD a better place by putting their LIFE on the line.

WAr does not make this world a better place, ya know!
I just think it is a waste to go to war and therefore a mistake. They should use their life to better intend then to fight wars that have no end and no solution, that make no sense at all. To make the world a better place would be to not participate in the war, that would be a great beginning.


I hope you don't join any branch of the military. The soldiers you serve with would probably shoot you just so they wouldn't have to hear your idiotic griping and complaining.

*farttttttt*
sorry, you kinda give me flatulences!

[Funkyfreshgrape]

I've been thinking about this for a while, everyone that says "support the troops" is almost always opposed to the war. My question is how can this be? The troops are the ones fighting the war..... so how can you "support the troops" and be against the war? Let me go ahead and say that I dont believe in war and definitely not the army so if I'm being ignorant I apologize, I just want to get some light shed on this.
i know, it doesn't make any sense...

[ericlee]

fucktop, you've got no fucking clue about what the military is all about.

They offer assistance to countries in need of aid. They played a big role during the tsunami and brought food and supplies. They've also helped during hurricane Katrina doing the same thing as well, including vacuating people via helecopter.

The national guard plays a vital role in case of emergencies such as riots or even prison riots if things get too hectic and there's not enough police to handle the situation.

There's many vital roles that the military provides and it's not just to go off and fight some unjust war as they're doing now. Get us a decent president who's head isn't up his ass and you'll see the essentialness of the military.

Not everyone in the military is supportive of Bush or the war and I read your posts and you sound alot more violent than most soldiers I know.

Seriously, I've served 8 years and I can tell you that you've got a fucking ignorant view point of the military and do you think you're going to prove me wrong? Fuck no.

[fucktopgirl]

Seriously, I've served 8 years and I can tell you that you've got a fucking ignorant view point of the military and do you think you're going to prove me wrong? Fuck no.

Well, true that i dont know as much as you and i agree there can be some good branch to the army:international aids in time of disaster or after genocide(rwanda). So i am fully aware that sometime they can play a vital and positive role but with what we witness nowadays.....hard to see the positives things of the army . BUt let be honnest, army are there to do the dirty job of the leader of the country(any country i can safely say).



And i am not there to prove anybody wrong, just saying my opinion! I think army and war are a waste of money, life and health in general.