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abcdefz
08-15-2006, 12:55 PM
So I've checked out a few episodes of CSI now from our local library. Some interesting mysteries, sometimes, but DAMN this show's weak. Cheesey, not-funny "edgy" joking dialogue is a problem, but the acting is so.... television, too. And the sudden close-ups to pieces of evidence -- jeebus, they think the audience is stupid.

I don't understand how shows like this and 24 get all the love while something and least somewhat more grounded, like The Shield, is relatively overlooked.

24. At leats 24 is enteertaining, but it's just a soap opera. I mean, characters who, in theory, should be some of the best and the brightest do the DUMBEST fucking shit just to provide plot points. And a drinking game should be made where you take a shot each time someone earnestly says "I need you to trust me" or "I'm just trying to do my job."

And, damn, those people betray and rally fast.
Bob
08-15-2006, 01:02 PM
And a drinking game should be made where you take a shot each time someone earnestly says "I need you to trust me" or "I'm just trying to do my job."

also, everytime somebody says "mr. president" or just "president". the first episode of the last season was great.

"mr. president! the president's been shot!"
"the president?"
"that's right, mr. president"
"mr. president, the president of russia is on line three: he's calling about the president!"

ok, not quotes, but still, they say it a lot.

24's a preprogrammed ride, but it's a fun one. it's set up so that you're supposed to feel this way about that character at this time, and then change your mind, later...you change your opinions, but you do it because the writers want you to. you don't really make your own judgments. still though, it's fun to watch, even if it's not very involving.

i've never seen the shield, but based on the thread you made, i kind of want to. CSI i don't watch and don't care to
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 01:03 PM
My dad hates CSI because he was a forensic chemist for 30 years and gets mad at the inaccuracies. Some people yell at football games, he yells at people supposedly being able to get full fingerprints.

24 I've never seen, but people around here talk about it religiously. So does Brett.

Never seen the Shield...isn't that on FX?

I'll abstain from voting. :p
abcdefz
08-15-2006, 01:09 PM
I totally believe in theater as a medium, even if it's on television, so I understand that a TV show aesthetic, but you've got to be able to pull it off.

So, for instance: CSI tries to have snappy dialogue, and it comes off like a high school freshman's idea of witty. And, in these scenarios, some of that stuff just wouldn't be tolerated, anyway.

Yeah, you can be unrealistic and pull it off -- The West Wing did, for a few seasons -- but CSI doesn't manage it.

24 almost does, through sheer panache, but it's still straight out of the jaw-clenched earnest soap opera lineage that creates more than the occasional disbelieving guffaw.
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 01:15 PM
On a side note, does anyone else notice that the CSI people ALWAYS do their crime investigations in the dark? You think one of them would have a working light that they'd turn on, just like in real life.
abcdefz
08-15-2006, 01:18 PM
On a side note, does anyone else notice that the CSI people ALWAYS do their crime investigations in the dark? You think one of them would have a working light that they'd turn on, just like in real life.


In this episode I just watched, the detective is walking around in a home to which he already has admittance -- it's no secret that he's there, and he's not trying to pounce on anyone unawares -- and he's just got his penlight showing on things, exploring. I was, like: "Turn on a light, you stupid fuck!"

In another episode, the same guy's light falls on a clue and he calls for another detective. She comes to him, and he says "Look!" and -- she trains her light on the exact same spot. No extra illumination or anything -- it's just to show the viewer that, by golly, she's looking, too! :rolleyes:
mickill
08-15-2006, 01:19 PM
Elisha Cuthbert is on 24. Enough said.



Well, technically I should add that I don't like or watch any of these shows really, but 24 has Elisha Cuthbert. Okay, now enough said.
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 01:21 PM
Is that Audrey Raines?

I don't know people, but I do know a few names.
SobaViolence
08-15-2006, 01:28 PM
Elisha is Kim Bauer
Audrey Raines is that chick from Third Watch

i like the shield a lot, but i'm just too devoted to 24.
like camping, it's in tents.
Lyman Zerga
08-15-2006, 01:39 PM
i dont watch any of that shows
mickill
08-15-2006, 01:42 PM
Yeah, I actually didn't really even know her name on the show or anything. She's just Kiefer's daughter to me.
yeahwho
08-15-2006, 01:42 PM
I voted 24 but I'm probably not going to watch this years. The writing went into the toilet last year in the last 8 hours to the point of a joke. They let the main terrorist escape 3 times after having him captured? That doesn't float to well with me.

I put up with alot of goofy "love scenes" to finally end up with really nothing interesting at the end, just a prolonged stretch of blah, blah, blah.

I feel better.

Most 2 hour movies are better.
yeahwho
08-15-2006, 02:27 PM
Here's a picture of the real National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va. (http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/15/us/15bush.l.jpg) just taken today. For the 24 freaks out there. It probably would make a great singles bar, 'cept for ugly standing there.

Looks like a few hot babes are hanging around.
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 02:28 PM
DoD babes are always hot. ;)
Bob
08-15-2006, 02:29 PM
Here's a picture of the real National Counterterrorism Center in McLean, Va. (http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/2006/08/15/us/15bush.l.jpg) just taken today. For the 24 freaks out there. It probably would make a great singles bar, 'cept for ugly standing there.

Looks like a few hot babes are hanging around.

whoa, cool workplace. looks like a hard place to get away with posting on the BBMB all day at though. always somebody looking over your shoulder
Gareth
08-15-2006, 02:33 PM
-deadwood
-the wire
abcdefz
08-15-2006, 02:36 PM
whoa, cool workplace. looks like a hard place to get away with posting on the BBMB all day at though. always somebody looking over your shoulder



That's why you get a job as a BBMB mole. (y)


"No, sir -- I'm SURE she's hiding in this 'Show me yer tits' thread!!! It's CODE!!! I need you to TRUST me; just let me do my JOB!!!"
Bob
08-15-2006, 02:42 PM
That's why you get a job as a BBMB mole. (y)


"No, sir -- I'm SURE she's hiding in this 'Show me yer tits' thread!!! It's CODE!!! I need you to TRUST me; just let me do my JOB!!!"

hahaha, well done.

SHOW ME WHERE THE TITS ARE!!!
abcdefz
08-15-2006, 02:43 PM
SHOW ME WHERE THE TITS ARE!!!



:D


You're much more concise than me am concise. (y)
yeahwho
08-15-2006, 02:46 PM
hahaha, well done.

SHOW ME WHERE THE TITS ARE!!!

I want that security assignment checking for weapons in breast implants at the airport. I'll be profiling heavily.
adam_f
08-15-2006, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by QueenAdrock
My dad hates CSI because he was a forensic chemist for 30 years and gets mad at the inaccuracies. Some people yell at football games, he yells at people supposedly being able to get full fingerprints.

I used to yell at "Days of Our Lives" when Marlena was possessed and I was scared because I was, like, 5 and was very, very scared of the voice.
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 02:47 PM
whoa, cool workplace. looks like a hard place to get away with posting on the BBMB all day at though. always somebody looking over your shoulder

:(
Bob
08-15-2006, 02:48 PM
I want that security assignment checking for weapons in breast implants at the airport. I'll be profiling heavily.

sorry ma'am, you can't bring those torpedoes on the plane
QueenAdrock
08-15-2006, 02:49 PM
I used to yell at "Days of Our Lives" when Marlena was possessed and I was scared because I was, like, 5 and was very, very scared of the voice.

Was that the lady who got the cheesy red glowing eyes?

Or maybe that was nothing.
adam_f
08-15-2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by QueenAdrock
Was that the lady who got the cheesy red glowing eyes?

Or maybe that was nothing.

That wasn't nothing. It was damaging to an impressionable lad's fragile pysche.
yeahwho
08-15-2006, 03:15 PM
I have a 24 prediction, I'm going out on a limb here. Are you ready?

Jack Bauer will be banned from CTU at some point.
ericlee
08-15-2006, 06:25 PM
I'm gonna have to go with the Shield. It's had me hooked for a while now and eventually, I'm going to own the whole series.

I've tried to watch 24 but I just couldn't get into it. I don't know why but, something about it just lost my interest.

CSI- Las Vegas is great. I saw 2 seasons of that. I watched all of Miami and thought they could've done better. I saw the first season of NY and I think it's the best so far. Lt. Dan as the lead is great, an insomniac detective.

A-z, for sure, another series you've gotta take a peek at is The Wire. I almost like it better any other series.
HOTWIFE
08-15-2006, 06:27 PM
I'd much rather watch the real thing. Court TV people!!!!
SobaViolence
08-15-2006, 06:30 PM
the least crappy one is Miami
Las Vegas is uber shit
and the one episode of NY i saw blew hard. even sinise, which was the biggest disappointment.
ericlee
08-15-2006, 06:38 PM
the least crappy one is Miami
Las Vegas is uber shit
and the one episode of NY i saw blew hard. even sinise, which was the biggest disappointment.

the reason why I didn't like Miami was because they emphasised too much on the "oh look, it's a hot little blonde cop" and she'd be all like, "back off bucko, I'm here for business" or some shit. And also the other guy in which all the ladies would just drool over him when he'd go the a scene to investigate. There was too many episodes like that. I know it's just a show and it's not realistic but it just seemed way too hollywoodised.

On New York, there was none of that. From I've seen so far.
DroppinScience
08-15-2006, 11:57 PM
Guys, no more 24-bashing (or semi-bashing).

That shit is the fucking Bible for me! :mad:
DroppinScience
08-15-2006, 11:58 PM
And daaaamn, that real CTU looks a lot like the one on TV. That's suh-weet! I wonder if Tony and Buchanan are there. :o
QueenAdrock
08-16-2006, 12:00 AM
Jack Bauer is a homo. :p
Funkyfreshgrape
08-16-2006, 06:51 AM
all of those suck.

i like 'Law & Order: CI'(y) :D
abcdefz
08-16-2006, 08:24 AM
I have a 24 prediction, I'm going out on a limb here. Are you ready?

Jack Bauer will be banned from CTU at some point.


...and his girlfriend might get killed.

Or maybe his daughter kidnapped.

Chloe might get fired and/or re-hired.
abcdefz
08-16-2006, 08:26 AM
A-z, for sure, another series you've gotta take a peek at is The Wire. I almost like it better any other series.



I'll put that in my queue. Should I start right from the beginning?

I just finished season two of The Shield last night. Holy crap. The money train, and that last shot of all that cash and the guys just kind of standing around realizing they're rich/they're fucked. (y)
abcdefz
08-16-2006, 08:28 AM
Guys, no more 24-bashing (or semi-bashing).

That shit is the fucking Bible for me! :mad:



24 is, at least, entertaining in its supreme hush-voiced cheesiness. I can't deny that. But there are just so many groaners.

I know it's TV candy, and that's all some people want, and I'm all for suspension of disbelief, but when some of that super-obvious bullshit happens, it just yanks me right out of the fun.
adam_f
08-16-2006, 08:32 AM
You should really start watching 'Cagney & Lacey'. Ahead of it's time, it is.
Bob
08-16-2006, 08:44 AM
...and his girlfriend might get killed.

Or maybe his daughter kidnapped.

Chloe might get fired and/or re-hired.

something will happen that will cause chloe to look frumpy
abcdefz
08-16-2006, 08:50 AM
something will happen that will cause chloe to look frumpy


(y)

She's SO. FUCKING. ANNOYING.

She has a bit part in Little Miss Sunshine. I tell ya, 120 seconds of onscreen time goes a long way for her. At least she worked in that context. (y)
Bob
08-16-2006, 08:55 AM
she was funny on mr. show, but i dunno, i don't like her too much in a serious role
Lyman Zerga
08-16-2006, 09:14 AM
Jack Bauer is a homo. :p


he is a pussy face
i cant stand him
ericlee
08-16-2006, 04:41 PM
I'll put that in my queue. Should I start right from the beginning?

For certain, you should start from the beginning or you would be clueless as to the characters and such. Also, a main factor of the series starts in the beginning and works it's way throughout the second series. I haven't seen any of the third series but, after how the second series ended, I'm positive that the saga from the first series carries on.

What's cool about The Wire is that a whole season would be of just one huge case and it builds up throughout every episode.
paul jones
08-16-2006, 05:27 PM
Starsky & Hutch
abcdefz
08-22-2006, 09:50 AM
For certain, you should start from the beginning or you would be clueless as to the characters and such. Also, a main factor of the series starts in the beginning and works it's way throughout the second series. I haven't seen any of the third series but, after how the second series ended, I'm positive that the saga from the first series carries on.

What's cool about The Wire is that a whole season would be of just one huge case and it builds up throughout every episode.


Season one, discs one and two are on their way.

Blockbuster jumped my queue (The Shield, season 4) for this, so if it's not good, I'm going to take it out on your mailbox. :)