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QueenAdrock
08-17-2006, 09:38 AM
An interesting read. (http://www.slate.com/id/2147591/?GT1=8483)
mickill
08-17-2006, 10:16 AM
I wonder if the writer has any suggestions for Rubin on how he should attempt to successfully market and produce the next decrepit country singer in his late sixties with a music career that's been on a steady decline for nearly two decades.

The title and subheading of this piece alone make me want to throw this guy off of a moving building.
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 10:48 AM
...maybe Jerry Lee Lewis can still be rescued from opening strip malls and such.
mickill
08-17-2006, 11:01 AM
No, I kinda like the fact that Jerry Lee Lewis is in Hell now, actually.
DroppinScience
08-17-2006, 11:02 AM
If Johnny Cash turned goth, he should've done a cover of The Cure's "Just Like Heaven." ;)

It was bound to happen though, the contrarian "Cash wasn't all that during the Rubin-era!" thesis.
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 11:06 AM
No, I kinda like the fact that Jerry Lee Lewis is in Hell now, actually.



He's 71 next month. It's never too late.
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 11:07 AM
Can you hear Cash doing "Love Will Tear Us Apart"?

No.
SobaViolence
08-17-2006, 11:51 AM
i just realized my grandpa and Cash died on the same day.

and he loved Johnny Cash his whole life...
that is all.
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 11:53 AM
i just realized my grandpa and Cash died on the same day.

and he loved Johnny Cash his whole life...




...did June and your grandma come to terms with this? :D
SobaViolence
08-17-2006, 01:19 PM
maybe that's why my nana left grandpa all those yrs ago...

well, thanks a-z
another visit to my therapist.

the bills in the mail...
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 01:25 PM
maybe that's why my nana left grandpa all those yrs ago...

well, thanks a-z
another visit to my therapist.

the bills in the mail...



Yeah; I'll get right on that.

Find someone with a sliding scale, by the way.
Deep_Sea_Rain
08-17-2006, 01:30 PM
Sounds like an article by a bitter 1950's Cash fan.

It starts out somewhat factual, then quickly moves into biased opinion.

(n)
abcdefz
08-17-2006, 01:35 PM
Well, it is an opinion essay. Everybody has the right to have a stick up their ass.

I think there's some truth in there -- a producer Brundleflies his vision to an aging star, finding an opportunity to hopefully make some art and also exploit the star's iconography. Fair enough. So do we also bitch about Springsteen producing Gary U.S. Bonds? I mean, so what? I don't think Cash exactly sold out doing the American Recordings series, even if it was largely about diminishing returns (I haven't heard volume five yet).

God. Let this man or woman jump onto the last many years of de Kooning's paintings, if she wants to talk about a producer whoring out an artist's talent. Cash's last stand wasn't anything like that, and I have a hard time believing he was Rubin's pawn or something, given Johnny's history and autonomy. The evidence shows he was making pretty decent recordings at home those last years, anyway.
The Notorious LOL
08-17-2006, 01:40 PM
had Rick Rubin not done a bunch of shit for Johnny Cash he would have ended up getting the Ray Charles treatment....meaning, fall the fuck off, die, be idolized for your good work, but your shit work is ignored.

actually, fuck...people do that with every dead celebrity. Nevermind.
camo
08-18-2006, 02:25 AM
I actually like his later stuff. Except the u2 shit of course
yeahwho
08-18-2006, 04:37 AM
Johnny Cash sold 50 million albums over an almost 50 year span.

I 'spose somebody could write an article about his preference for black and line walkin' and people would read it.

gosh, slate is one fucked up publication, I think they helped Bush more than damaged him during the last election. They'll publish anything and the legit stuff gets buried by this sort of thing.
BangkokB
08-18-2006, 02:52 PM
Rick should have convinced JC to do acoustic versions of Snoops "Pump Pump" or "Da Shiznit"

or really pushed the envelop and have him do "Temptation"
saz
08-18-2006, 03:23 PM
slate are notorious for lacking basic research and shit journalism
Deep_Sea_Rain
08-19-2006, 01:32 AM
Cash's rendition of "Hurt" might be the most moving song I've ever heard. Maybe.
BBboy20
08-20-2006, 05:58 PM
Cash's rendition of "Hurt" might be the most moving song I've ever heard. Maybe.I'm pretty sure it helped due to the fact that it was his last great song...and IT IS the most moving song I've ever heard. Only song that actually made me cry towards somebody I wasn't even much of a fan of. (Though I did buy the "Legend of..." album)