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Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 11:36 AM
Series creator Mr. Khan Tusion worked to ensure that Meatholes would have an innovative format and approach, which would set his films aside from those of other artists. Meatholes is presented in scenes of an average of 40 minutes in length. These scenes typically begin with a one on one interview conducted between Mr. Tusion and the female performer who is to be the subject of the scene. The interview serves as the audience's introduction to the performer, seated on the 'Meatholes' couch, and appearing alone, she will then be quizzed by Tusion on any topic that Tusion chooses to broach. Regular topics of conversation include questions about the performer's childhood, what nick-name their father had for them as children, questions about adolescent sexual experiences, and general verbal abuse. Tusion is at this point seeking to understand the inner psyche of the performer and what motivates her to perform in the sex industry.

These conversations often make the female performers visibly uncomfortable, and many begin crying on set. After Mr. Tusion has quizzed the performer for several minutes, throwing in scattered verbal abuse, and often pressing his feet on the open genitals of the performer with his trademark dirty sneakers, he will order one or two male performers to enter the room and the remainder of the scene involves extremely rough intercourse perpetrated on the female by these one or two male performers. It is to be noted that Tusion himself never appears in on-camera action, prefering to remain, like the audience, a voyeur.

'Meatholes' performers engage in anal sex, fellatio, heavy female on male analingus, male on female facial expectoration, simulated female on male coprolagnia, male on female facial and general slapping, bukkake, male on female cranial toilet flushing, female on toilet cistern licking, etc. Several famous porn stars have participated in this series to date, some deeply regret it and vow to never do another meatholes scene again.

The 'Meatholes' brand expanded in recent years to include a central and complementary websites, along with a canon of DVD releases distributed by adult industry firm 'JM Productions'. 'Meatholes' works can be found in select Adult stores or ordered online from the said distributor. They are also very heavily traded on Anonymous P2P networks worldwide.

dis some sick shit. how can you justify that type behaviour? a good point raised on a journal this girl was keeping, was that its hard to consider it 'acting' when these dudes clearly hate women for rillz. and on the flipside, can anyone prove these chicks really don't mind?

The 'Meatholes' couch on which the female performer sits to be interviewed by Tusion at the start of every scene, is also the place where the action for the entire scene takes place. Needless to say, it is a very filthy looking and stained couch indeed.

Condoms are banned by Mr. Tusion for use in 'Meatholes' scenes.

Some performers who have appeared in Meatholes are:

* Taylor Rain
* Sativa Rose
* Roxy Jezel
* Dasha
* Tiffany Mynx
* Kami Andrews
* Annie Cruz
* Tyla Wynn
* Tory Lane
* Deja daire
* Crystal Ray
* Venus


cna you defend liking the erotic arts, or straight up fukkin porn (for arguments sake), when shit like this goes on too? by condoning people fukkin on camera for our pleasure, do we perpetuate this? does a person's need for titillation work like an addiction, leading them to this extreme?

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 11:39 AM
Yes. Meatholes.

Is it wrong how excited I am that there’s a new Meatholes sister-site coming out soon dedicated to nothing but girls being violently face-fucked until they gag on cock, often vomiting on themselves?

Is it sick that I watch all the Meatholes trailers, all the way through, over and over again, with slack-jawed awe and wonderment at a woman’s ability to take punishment and their willingness to be utterly humiliated by assholes and goons?

Is it weird that I show this shit to my boyfriend, tell my mother about it, make reference to it in casual dinner conversation, and site it as a phenomenon in Philosophy of Media courses?

My aforementioned boyfriend asked me, after a particularly heinous episode starring Meathole Kerri which we watched, silently, mouths agape, “Why would a girl do this?” I mumbled a bewildered, “I don’t know.”

Did Nikki’s parents abuse her? Did Kat’s father not love her enough? Was Kerri ignored? Molested? Raped? Was Jane on drugs? How much money could they possibly be making that would make this “worth it”? Are they really just dumb whores? Why are they willing to be treated like abject objects? Like pieces of meat?

Why do I watch it?

The folks at Meatholes are definitely onto something. They have found an audience. Masses of people hungry for more dirty whores, willing to be spit on, sat on, stepped on, slapped around, mocked, humiliated, spanked, fisted, choked, gagged, and more. They make these girls lick ass, drink piss, swallow spit, and take cum directly in the eyeball. Many of the girls “break” at some point. A lot of them cry. It’s terribly awful.

How real is it? I don’t know. How much of it is “acting” and how much of it is honest moments of realization of what they have become? I don’t know.

I watch it. With my mouth agape and my brow furrowed with a mixture of concern, horror, and fascination. I watch the whole thing. Somehow I think it’s making me stronger, in the way that Nietzsche says what doesn’t kill me will.

In the same way that a kid pokes at a dead bird or picks at a scab, I keep coming back. I look at the site from different angels. I try to analyze it and understand it. I want to know how many of the girls are dead, on drugs, in institutions, married with children, prostitutes, suicidal. Sometimes I wish I could give them a hug. Sometimes I want to slap them for being such dumb bitches. I am conflicted.

I whole-heartedly recommend the site to family, friends, teachers, and random folks I meet on the street. I link it up to my website. I accept the challenge. I do battle with my demons. I am glad that I am not them. I am grateful for their sacrifice.

a girl named julia wrote this. good points. it is jaw-droppingly obscene.

The Padster
08-23-2006, 11:39 AM
After Mr. Tusion has quizzed the performer for several minutes, throwing in scattered verbal abuse, and often pressing his feet on the open genitals of the performer with his trademark dirty sneakers, he will order one or two male performers to enter the room and the remainder of the scene involves extremely rough intercourse perpetrated on the female by these one or two male performers.
Haha that's some rough shit. Bitch probably loves it as well.

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 11:40 AM
In some of his films, usually only available to the European market, Hardcore urinates in the mouths of the actresses. Graphic anal sex predominates over vaginal intercourse in his films, and anal to oral activity is common. One unique feature of his films is a setup where he inserts a test tube-shaped cylinder in a woman's anus. A long plastic tube connects the cylinder to her mouth. Hardcore then urinates in the cylinder while the woman sucks the urine out into her mouth through the tube, or she simply siphons out Hardcore's ejaculation.

Other films involve deep throating and vomiting. The actresses vomit and sometimes collect it in a large glass bowl, sometimes visible throughout the scene. In some scenes, Hardcore draws lipstick across the face, vagina, or anus of the actress. Infrequenty, he or another actress slaps the face of an actress.

The plots of Hardcore's videos usually involve him deriding the young women, calling them sluts and whores, and often involves him "tricking" them into performing with the promise of a modeling contract or by playing to their vanity. He not only physically humiliates them, he (according to his characters) makes them revel in their worthlessness as people. He usually has the actresses refer to him as Mister.

Hardcore, who often appears wearing nothing but socks and his signature cowboy hat, is usually the only male actor in his films. The actresses who appear in his films usually dress in very bright and colorful child-like clothing and sport pigtails. Most of the sex scenes take place upon a bright yellow leather couch.

While widely seen as an outlaw and the 'unacceptable face of porn' within the industry, it is worth noting that Hardcore's trademark scenarios, dialogue and positions have redefined American pornography, bringing anal sex, anal gaping, spitting, gagging, drooling and the unabashed degradation of female performers into the mainstream.

this dude plainly hates women.

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Haha that's some rough shit. Bitch probably loves it as well.
shit b, we cant prove that. she may think she loves it cause a the paycheck. but thats the truest exploitation; exploiting the false perception of a fair trade.

ampm
08-23-2006, 11:47 AM
These girls must be starving for attention. They just want to be noticed. These girls would probably splash their pictures and minute details of their pathetic lives all over the internet. Over and over again until someone gave them some kind of acknowledgement. I wonder where they find these females?

b i o n i c
08-23-2006, 11:49 AM
i know a chick who's into these sites. quite baffling

The Padster
08-23-2006, 11:50 AM
shit b, we cant prove that. she may think she loves it cause a the paycheck. but thats the truest exploitation; exploiting the false perception of a fair trade.
Some people join the army and think they're gonna enjoy it, then get shot in the head. These girls wanna get paid to have sex, and shock horror they get fucked in a rougher way than they may have expected. At the end of the day they're getting paid and there is no lasting physical damage, if they're going to get emotional damage then they shouldn't have put themselves in for this shit in the first place.

I'm not disagreeing with your point that this is FUBAR, but there's more pressing matters in the world, like the whole racism thing and the pending war between Muslims and the rest of the planet.

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 11:57 AM
Some people join the army and think they're gonna enjoy it, then get shot in the head. These girls wanna get paid to have sex, and shock horror they get fucked in a rougher way than they may have expected. At the end of the day they're getting paid and there is no lasting physical damage, if they're going to get emotional damage then they shouldn't have put themselves in for this shit in the first place.

I'm not disagreeing with your point that this is FUBAR, but there's more pressing matters in the world, like the whole racism thing and the pending war between Muslims and the rest of the planet.
its all par for the course mah man.

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 09:54 PM
mayne, am i the only person thinkin this shit is unaccepatble?

Deep_Sea_Rain
08-23-2006, 10:07 PM
It's mysogonistic filth. The makers of these "films" should be tortured.

skra75
08-23-2006, 10:13 PM
this is a statement on the state of the world right now, if you think about it. people are obviously paying to see it. girls are getting paid to do it. it's the fucking decay of humanity. I think we only have a few years left before shit hits the fan and we nuke ourselves.

Lo_Lyfe
08-23-2006, 10:16 PM
this is a statement on the state of the world right now, if you think about it. people are obviously paying to see it. girls are getting paid to do it. it's the fucking decay of humanity. I think we only have a few years left before shit hits the fan and we nuke ourselves.
absolutely. i tend to think about the many things aliens would see about our society, and what they imply abotu us.

this kinda niche is twisted. you got the combination of sex and violence man. its just consensual rape. imagine how them girls fathers would feel knowing they daughters did this willingly.

theres those porno girls who push the boundaries like belladonna, bu shes more a pervert. she aint self loathing like this. it does make it very hard for me to defend my appreciation of porn tho. i mean, it all starts somewhere.

hitmonlee
08-23-2006, 11:46 PM
ah my bf watches some of this. not much, and by the sounds of it not the worst of it. one scene he described to me i didnt like was max hardcore sticking his fingers in the girls ass, and then pushing her ass out through her vagina (n)
don't think he finds it arousing, just amusing that people do this for money
i dont think my bf likes women that much either

i kind of rate it in the same category to hardcore horror films, you know those really bad japanese films? lots of gore and shit.

i dont know, i dont like to think about it much. close my eyes and pretend it doesnt exist. each to their own?

Kid Presentable
08-23-2006, 11:48 PM
That shit is messed up.

like2_drink
08-23-2006, 11:52 PM
now as sick as it is, i'm not the only one who's seen the stuff right

















:rolleyes:

Kid Presentable
08-23-2006, 11:56 PM
I've seen it. I like porn, man. But the shit isn't on. The difference between this and horror movies is that it's actually happening. Fair enough these girls agree to do it, but fuckin hell do they earn that wage.

like2_drink
08-24-2006, 12:05 AM
in their deffence the girl did seem to love it

Kid Presentable
08-24-2006, 12:07 AM
in their deffence the girl did seem to love it
Yeah, I would tend to disagree. She might be acting there.

like2_drink
08-24-2006, 12:10 AM
haha good call

i didn't mean it that way. showed afterwards and she was laughin sayin it was fun.

but i still think it's raunchy stuff(n)

Kid Presentable
08-24-2006, 12:18 AM
haha good call

i didn't mean it that way. showed afterwards and she was laughin sayin it was fun.

but i still think it's raunchy stuff(n)
Then possibly some girls find it fun. But not all, surely. I wonder why more people aren't discussing this?

zorra_chiflada
08-24-2006, 12:26 AM
are people still going to be as willing to defend pornography? absolutely.
half the problem is the fact that there's a market out there for this. they wouldn't be making it if they weren't selling it. too many people think this is acceptable.

Kid Presentable
08-24-2006, 12:30 AM
are people still going to be as willing to defend pornography? absolutely.
half the problem is the fact that there's a market out there for this. they wouldn't be making it if they weren't selling it. too many people think this is acceptable.
Precisely. And the questions Lo_Lyfe raised were valid. I've known of people whose appetite for porn gets harder and harder (no pizzun) to satiate, until only the most depraved shit will do. Maybe, maybe people pooing on each other is funny in an apocryphal story kind of way. But calling these girls 'cunts' and slapping, choking and standing on them? Well.

The countless popularity threads and 'satire' posts will probably bury this. Too bad, I never like Lo_Lyfe, but this is one of the better threads in this forum.

g-mile7
08-24-2006, 12:39 AM
are people still going to be as willing to defend pornography? absolutely.
half the problem is the fact that there's a market out there for this. they wouldn't be making it if they weren't selling it. too many people think this is acceptable.
And those people are those in the business. Consumers are letting their desires run wild.

zorra_chiflada
08-24-2006, 12:42 AM
yeah, i suppose. it could very well be a case of the product creating the need, rather than the other way around.

Kid Presentable
08-24-2006, 12:48 AM
Hey, the demand has to be there in the first place, right?

zorra_chiflada
08-24-2006, 12:50 AM
well, it used to work like that.
but in modern times, the concept of "creating taste" has broadened. it's all about making money.

g-mile7
08-24-2006, 01:01 AM
Course but come on just cuz demand there doesnt mean the people should make it. Demand cant B that high and the money that good

Auton
08-24-2006, 01:36 AM
thanks for making this thread. stuff like that shows how completely disgusting the world is getting in some ways. the "bitch probably loves it" bullshit only helps perpetuate the narrow line of thinking that has this stuff made in the first place. it's physical and emotional abuse, and i think anyone associated with the manufacturing of this slime is a monster.

hitmonlee
08-24-2006, 01:51 AM
I've seen it. I like porn, man. But the shit isn't on. The difference between this and horror movies is that it's actually happening. Fair enough these girls agree to do it, but fuckin hell do they earn that wage.

i was thinking about this over lunch

i think maybe i find movies such as irreversible
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290673/
more upsetting (i haven't actually seen it, i can't watch rape on film, it upsets me too much) than this type of porn. while i think this type of porn is fucking wrong, as far as i know, these girls are doing it willingly, and getting paid for it.

whereas a movie such as irreversible, sure its not real, but it is intended to be real. people go and watch a pretend woman get raped for 17 minutes and this is what they watch for entertainment? they arent watching some girl get exploited, they are watching rape on screen.

same with very graphically violent movies. people watch people getting brutally murdered for entertainment. ok it isn't real, but isn't that still a fucking sick thing to want to watch? just because its a story, doesn't mean its not fucked up.


meh i dunno, i have kind of forgotten exactly what i was thinking at lunch but it made more sense then.

Waus
08-24-2006, 02:00 AM
yeah, i suppose. it could very well be a case of the product creating the need, rather than the other way around.

I dunno...it seems to me that products like this are just an indulgence in the darkest desires we already have. It cators directly to the guy who's just had a girl dump him, the guy who's girl cheated on him...or just that really bitter loser who hates women because he's alone. All these people just want to punish women - and Meatholes type stuff illustrates their thoughts.

Whether or not it's right to make it - or to treat women like that is something. I mean these girls signed up for it, so they must have had an idea of what was going to happen. Who can tell what's acting to produce the "abuse" effect and what's sincere questioning of their place in the industry? Considering most of those girls don't even give their real name, I find it hard to believe they'd tell intimate details about their adolesence.

I think that stuff is bad news, but there's a demand for it just like there's a demand for heroin.

The Notorious LOL
08-24-2006, 02:00 AM
its half a step from rape, basically.

how classy.

Pres Zount
08-24-2006, 05:00 AM
The exchange of commodities that is "work" is exploitation. Your boss pays you less than you are worth to make a profit.

Sex workers are literally sexually exploited. It's only a step up from rape because someone is being paid for it, and it's not very likely that person does it for any enjoyment. Not many people work because they want to.

It's pretty sick stuff. Not really the kind of thing that should be going on in a 'civilised' society. Hitmonlee, your boyfriend sounds like a creep and a pervert.

Lo_Lyfe
08-24-2006, 05:47 AM
even sex workers get better treatment than this (in most, not all) cases. i know a couple of ex-pros, who managed to get good jobs with upper class estblishments. good money, well looked after. true they were exploited for their sex, but they weren't put in positions that would be difficult to switch off afterwards.

for the sake of a hypothesis; how many women on this board would do something like this sick-ass meathole shit if the price was right? do you think its a progression more likely to be made by girls in the industry already?

Lyman Zerga
08-24-2006, 08:28 AM
im fine with my anime porn

Dr Deaf
08-24-2006, 08:57 AM
surely the women featured in these videos could have done a little research prior to 'auditioning' for these roles. they'd have to be aware of the intense degradation and humiliation they'd undergo as a participant.

that said i agree with most people here and its a tragic sign of o' the times. if people constantly crave this hardcore type of stimuli, what's preventing the depictions in the videos from spilling over into their personal sexual endevours?

it is my opinion that videos like this could encourage deviant sexual practices among a wide spectrum of otherwise normal people. when the new norm becomes hardcore, no holds barred, you're bound to feel the ripple effect throughout society.

ET
08-24-2006, 09:08 AM
I think there have been a series of simulated 'rape videos' in Japan, much to the governments displeasure. I don't see how you can get pleasure watching someone get attacked or even watch knowing it's 'simulated'.

This probably isn't going to spread throughout societies but I think the true perverts are only going to get worse later on. Worse as in having stranger fetishes and the urge to commit sex crimes will probably increase.

hpdrifter
08-24-2006, 10:59 AM
I so wish I could unread this. I didn't know stuff like this existed. Its almost like illegal snuff is now legal and mainstream.

And I totally agree with Pres Zount when he said that just because they sign up for it and get paid doesn't make it okay. Its not okay to exploit someone's weakness and desparation.

I know that I am presupposing that the women in these movies have something wrong with them starting out that they would even consider participating, and maybe some of them really do just like being sex workers.

Meh, I'm not articulating my thought very well.

Byahhhhhh!

The Padster
08-24-2006, 11:12 AM
its just consensual rape.
That's an oxymoron.

beastieangel01
08-24-2006, 11:26 AM
I dunno...it seems to me that products like this are just an indulgence in the darkest desires we already have. It cators directly to the guy who's just had a girl dump him, the guy who's girl cheated on him...or just that really bitter loser who hates women because he's alone. All these people just want to punish women - and Meatholes type stuff illustrates their thoughts.

Whether or not it's right to make it - or to treat women like that is something. I mean these girls signed up for it, so they must have had an idea of what was going to happen. Who can tell what's acting to produce the "abuse" effect and what's sincere questioning of their place in the industry? Considering most of those girls don't even give their real name, I find it hard to believe they'd tell intimate details about their adolesence.

I think that stuff is bad news, but there's a demand for it just like there's a demand for heroin.

I agree with you on all points here. I really, really hope that it's acting. But if it's in fact all real and these girls are actually crying and doing all this well, I hope they find a therapist soon.

like2_drink
08-24-2006, 12:00 PM
i really wanna hear from the girls themselves, find out if thats just the type of shit their into, i mean, they can't be. but after the first few episodes why would it continue to exist.

i don't mean to sound like i enjoy the stuff by any means, i just keep wondering whether or not the girls actually do know what their in for and like the thought of beeing dominated like that.

Rock
08-24-2006, 02:59 PM
Crystal Ray (listed in the first post) actually quit the bizness because of how she was treated. I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of Meatholes.

TimDoolan
08-24-2006, 03:22 PM
This thread reminds me alot of American Psycho.

Kid Presentable
08-25-2006, 12:56 AM
It's pretty telling that pornstars can find it to be too demeaning.

befsquire
08-25-2006, 01:14 AM
i have never watched it, but from the description, i think it's disgusting.

however...

i really can't say i have much sympathy for the girls who participate. they got into the business in the first place, and they had to have heard before they went on the show what it was about. it isn't like that show is their first porn experience.

and i don't even want to hear that line of shit about how they can't go to college, they have kids to raise, they have no skills, etc., so they have to resort to porn. that's bullshit. my mom was a single mom with 3 kids. she learned to type instead of resorting to prostitution or porn or anything remotely like that.

i can see where abuse can fuck you up. but you can't blame that for how you ended up in porn. there really isn't some causal connection between the two. i was horribly abused / molested, think i'll go get more of that on camera for money. are there people who were abused and molested and it made them not care what happens to their bodies, so they might as well do porn? sure. but i'm guessing that for every 1 molested female porn star, there are 100,000 women who chose a different line of work or got loans to go to school.

so, no, i don't really care that they cried on a couch or they were demeaned or anything else. they asked for it, they got it.

g-mile7
08-25-2006, 01:16 AM
Great post Beth!

Kid Presentable
08-25-2006, 01:19 AM
I talked to my S/O about these movies, (after she regaled me with stories about fat women getting Brazilians to counter knots in their pubes) and she basically felt like no normal, sane woman would do it.

Kid Presentable
08-25-2006, 01:35 AM
WOODLAND HILLS, Calif. — Brandon Iron? Please. Mason? C'mon, get real. Max Hardcore? Fugetaboutit.
Nope, Meatholes.com is by far the roughest, toughest Porn Valley-based adult content out there (now being distributed on disc by JM Productions), even if Mr. Meatholes, Khan Tusion (get it?), claims he doesn't think so.
Doubters merely need to check out Nicki Hunter's brutal turn a few months back. It most definitely ain't pretty. But it is consensual. As are all Meatholes scenes. Before the cameras start rolling, Tusion carefully negotiates with the girls exactly what their limits are. And he honors them.
A genuine, dyed-in-the-wool sadist, Khan primarily is interested in getting inside the females' heads for an answer to his most burning of questions — "why are you here?" He finds their emotional weaknesses, then exploits the hell out of those buttons until, humiliated and psychologically worn out, they break. It's basically a BDSM scene without the leather and without the dungeon.
Tusion then turns the girl over to a stiff dick (or two or three) for some very hard-edge, usually no-holes-barred sex. Finding the actual fucking far less interesting than the mind fucking, he sometimes even exits the room once it starts.
On this rainy afternoon, I arrive on the set just as the Meathole du jour, newbie Georgia Southe, is about to be thrown on the fire.
Can he slap her? Spit on her? Choke her? "For sure," she answers.
The camera starts rolling ,and Khan begins doing his thing, repeatedly whacking Southe's titties REALLY FUCKING HARD, choking her out and getting her to recount something along the lines of how her father turned her into "a whore."
By now, Georgia is starting to tear up.
Juan Cuba jumps in and fucks her mouth and pussy (but not ass) with an assist from another newbie, darkly sexy Brooklyn in full-on Domme mode. This wicked bitch grabs Georgia by the hair, makes her stare into the camera and asks her, "You wanna say hi to Daddy and tell him what a filthy fucking cunt you are?"
Finally, Cuba blows on Southe's face, and Brooklyn licks it off and spits it back into Georgia's mug.
"Mommy and daddy are real proud of you now, angel," Tusion tells her.
"It felt good to cry," Georgia, looking like she's positively been through the ringer, says. "This was fucking better than therapy."

- Mike Ramone

Something I found.

TimDoolan
08-25-2006, 10:39 PM
Something I found.


I find stuff like this much more engaging than normal porn. I went to the site and its really intense like that. Call it sick but I like it.

If not for my vices and bugged out desires..........

Auton
08-26-2006, 01:51 AM
you're messed up, man

Pres Zount
08-26-2006, 01:53 AM
yeah, we will call you sick.

Lyman Zerga
08-26-2006, 05:45 AM
sometimes i have look out for something 'special' cause the fucking/sucking thing gets boring to look at after a while

like2_drink
08-26-2006, 06:00 AM
interesting