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icy manipulator
09-03-2006, 11:09 PM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
sorry i've never posted a link to a website before, so just copy and paste this link.
BUT THE CROCODILE HUNTER IS GONE! QUEENSLAND'S BIGGEST ICON IS GONE! FREAK ACCIDENT WITH A STING RAY! AND I WAS GOING TO GO TO AUSTRALIA ZOO VERY VERY SOON!
WHAT IN THE FUCK@! THIS IS HUGE!! LIKE 10 PEOPLE ON MY MSN HAVE THEIR NAME SET TO 'STEVE IRWIN DEAD'
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September 04, 2006 02:14pm
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THE Crocodile Hunter, Steve Irwin, is dead.
He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, police sources said.
It is understood he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest.
He was swimming off the Low Isles at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary and that's when it occured.
Ambulance officers confirmed they attended a reef fatality this morning at Batt Reef off Port Douglas.
mikizee
09-03-2006, 11:11 PM
holy fuck!
RaZoRbLaDe KiSs
09-03-2006, 11:12 PM
NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:
are you fucking joking dude, that's insain! Steve Irwin cant die! He's been like.. mauled by lions and bitted by anacondas and shit. WTF?
thats crazy!!!
well.. we all knew he'd go out some way that involves an animal.. I just thought it would be something cooler like.. eaten alive by bears or something.
fuckin A...
tracky
09-03-2006, 11:14 PM
oh you cunt this was my thread
TurdBerglar
09-03-2006, 11:17 PM
stingrays are badass
icy manipulator
09-03-2006, 11:17 PM
oh you cunt this was my thread
beat you mofo.
yeah but wtf?! this is surreal. being impaled by a stingray tho, that's nuts
befsquire
09-03-2006, 11:18 PM
is it wrong of me to want to see the footage of the freak accident?
that really sucks.
RaZoRbLaDe KiSs
09-03-2006, 11:22 PM
I didnt know that that.. tail thing.. they have, was strong/hard enough to imale someone! it must have been through the chest. WTF? they let you pet those things at the aquariums!!!
on the one hand this kinda sucks, but on the other hand you can't be too surprised, really. something was bound to happen.
at least he died doin' what he loved
Kid Presentable
09-03-2006, 11:27 PM
Steve Irwin was reportedly killed by a stingray barb through the chest while filming an underwater documentary in the Batt Reef off the Low Isles near Port Douglas, north of Cairns, Queensland, Australia. Fucking stingrays.
Oh shit. At least he wasn't wearing an infant on his chest.
yeahwho
09-03-2006, 11:32 PM
I was checking out this (http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/47/stingrays.html)
bummer beyond all bummers :(
tracky
09-03-2006, 11:32 PM
I wonder if this is as close as we'll get to like a Kennedy Assassination
Where were you when Steve Irwin died?
Is it bad that the first thing I did was laugh, then ask if it was a crocodile? One of the ladies at work looked at me like WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING THIS IS A TRAGEDY?!?
Seriously he had it coming. But yeah still kinda sad in a small way.
kaiser soze
09-03-2006, 11:35 PM
whoa that sucks, he was quite the character
An understandable death though...he tempted his fate working with dangerous animals and more then likely personally wanted to go out by the grip of the claws, jaws, or poison of an animal.
Never underestimate the penetrating ability of a stingray’s barb, even on the smallest of stingrays. The stingray’s barb is designed to penetrate virtually all sorts of dense materials, including wood and leather. And as unbelievable as it may seem, it’s been documented that large stingrays are able to drive a barb through a boat’s wooden planks or completely through a persons arm or leg.
http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html
Kid Presentable
09-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Some of my fondest memories since arriving Australia have involved bonding with people in the pub, watching Steve do his thing.
RIP
P of R
09-04-2006, 12:06 AM
Just read about it! :( Makes me really sad.
His profession wasn't exactly the safest one out there though.
yeahwho
09-04-2006, 12:08 AM
A little known fact is Steve Irwin was a domestic catphobe.
Poster Boy
09-04-2006, 12:23 AM
and he only left us with one feature film.
zorra_chiflada
09-04-2006, 12:26 AM
holy fucking christ!
Bitchamachacha
09-04-2006, 12:35 AM
I just read that. My little sister is going to be crushed. She loved him and his show.
How sad.
He toyed with some of the most dangerous animals on the planet: Cobras, sharks, crocs....and he was taken out by a freaking sting ray.
:(
Bitchamachacha
09-04-2006, 12:38 AM
I didnt know that that.. tail thing.. they have, was strong/hard enough to imale someone! it must have been through the chest. WTF? they let you pet those things at the aquariums!!!
I heard it was a diving accident. He may have dove onto it or something, but yeah. The barb went straight through his heart.
Gareth
09-04-2006, 12:42 AM
fuck
rip
Lo_Lyfe
09-04-2006, 01:19 AM
another Hip Hop legend bites the dust.
Steve Irwin>>Pac
"Crikey">>>"Thug Life"
R.I.P
Otis Driftwood
09-04-2006, 02:56 AM
shoulda been Vic Hislop! (n)
na§tee
09-04-2006, 03:50 AM
killed by a fish.
not the ideal way to go, man.
Gareth
09-04-2006, 04:07 AM
did anyone see grizzly man??
na§tee
09-04-2006, 04:13 AM
yes! i think i put a review somewhere here. i will search after, um, i post.
yes - the similarity is very spooooky.
but that dude was killed by a fucking BEAR man, a bear! not a fish.
Drederick Tatum
09-04-2006, 04:17 AM
did anyone see grizzly man??
the Herzog film? I haven't seen it. do you actually get the audio of Treadwell being killed?
Planetary
09-04-2006, 04:25 AM
i just read about this. fucking nuts :eek: quite a shame too.
i wonder if they have it on video
ericlee
09-04-2006, 05:54 AM
I really feel like crying for this guy.
All the people who laugh, think about it. This guy may have seemed annoying or what not but he was a man with good faith and a good reason to stay alive. He was a mentor for many and a teacher of one of the most important things in life. Nature.
You don't laugh at this kind of thing. You laugh at people who die that are shitscum and have never served a purpose in life.
RIP. Mr Irwin.
Freebasser
09-04-2006, 05:55 AM
It was always obvious that he was going to die at the hands of an animal, the man was a loon.
Rest In Pieces, Steve; We'll miss ya. Keep teasing that great crocodile in the sky (y)
ericlee
09-04-2006, 06:00 AM
It was always obvious that he was going to die at the hands of an animal, the man was a loon.
Rest In Pieces, Steve; We'll miss ya. Keep teasing that great crocodile in the sky (y)
"So what we have here is a dangerous crocodile. What I'm gonna do is walk on over to it and shove my thumb right up it's bumhole. Yeah, he'll be really pissed"
Pres Zount
09-04-2006, 06:04 AM
I learnt this at work. I was pretty devestated.
rampancy
09-04-2006, 06:06 AM
everyone on msn is putting a turtle (tu) at the start and end of their screen name. Its so crazy, its spreading faster than news of his death did, I live in Australia and i know people in spain who have this freakin turtle. If you have msn aim or whatevar, spread the message and put a turtle (tu) (or whatever it is) at the start of ur screen name and the end
Pres Zount
09-04-2006, 06:11 AM
a turtle just means you are 'turtling', or 'dying to take a dump'.
rampancy
09-04-2006, 06:16 AM
turtle= dying to take a dump?
i thought that was prairie doggin, but hell, its just a cute little turtle to symbolize his dedication to nature i suppose. SO DO IT.
yooooo
09-04-2006, 06:20 AM
this is sad man..
pres zount you fucker i laughed:(
na§tee
09-04-2006, 06:21 AM
wow, you're pretty aggressive about this whole turtle thang.
me and pres would really prefer to use terrapin icons.
Pres Zount
09-04-2006, 06:26 AM
snapping turtles are cool.
A sting ray would be apropriate. you could put blood on the barb.
He was a nice guy. I'm watching an old interview on TV right now.
Drederick Tatum
09-04-2006, 06:51 AM
he was a good guy. probably my favourite Australian ever.
GetYourWarOn
09-04-2006, 06:52 AM
this guy was fucking awesome. he will be missed.
tracky
09-04-2006, 06:54 AM
i'm gonna fire up that south park episode with him in it in his honour (y) I think that's why I laugh when I think of him... "I'm gonna stick my thumb up his butthole (y), that oughta really piss him off.."
Everything's a joke with me :(
at first i didn't believe my brother and sis when they told me - it's steve irwin. he can survive anything... but a stingray tail to the heart - that's heavy.
RIP for sure.
fucktopgirl
09-04-2006, 07:27 AM
yea, what a freak accident...only 3 fatal death by a stingray in autralia...he was not lucky. :(
na§tee
09-04-2006, 07:28 AM
i am actually sad that he is dead, and the family he left behind. i remember an episode of his show where his family dog died, and he slept with it. i cried like a big fucking baby. i think i will be more sad and reflective when i see some clips of him. meanwhile, here's a great wee tribute from marcus brigstocke from the guardian blogs:
The Call of the Wild
Years ago I got a call from a friend, saying: "There's this man on television, you have to find him. This Australian bloke who goes out and gets wild animals. Like a younger version of the Bush Tucker Man."
The first time I saw Steve Irwin on TV, he was out in Africa in search of a black mamba. He was lifting this snake up by the tail - well, the whole thing's the tail really - going: "Oh, he's grumpy! He's grumpy!" Yes, I thought, you've got him by the tail.
That was the start - I've been hooked ever since and have bought a fair bit of his work on DVD and video. Once the kids are in bed tonight, I'll have a little tribute session to the man.
In another of the programmes I watched, he and his wife went rock climbing up a cliff in pursuit of a python, and his wife ended up falling down the cliff. It was this amazing combination of man versus python, and wife versus man.
The Melbourne zoo projects he did were fantastic for conservation, and he worked with the army to preserve crocs rather than blowing them up. But his programmes were pretty useless as public service broadcasting. Even in Australia, where the creatures lived, it was questionable. For us, it was just sport.
I had already started doing Australian characters [in stand-up and sketch shows] before encountering Steve Irwin. Most of the real ones I'd encountered were like the Bush Tucker Man: an older and slower TV presenter who would eat whatever he found, no matter what, and say: "Sort of a dry, weedy taste." I toured a Queensland sugar-cane production plant with a man who was like Steve Irwin on Mogadon, not interested in anything: "Over there, some more sugar cane," he'd say. If it had been the real Steve Irwin, the tour would have been amazing.
I loved his enthusiasm. Plus he wore little shorts, whatever he was doing. He did everything, even swimming, in his shorts and safari shirt. And no matter what anyone's name was, he would put an "O" on the end. That was Steve-O.
I hesitate to say he has put Australia back on the map, but he certainly brought it to life for many. No Australian has made their mark like that since Paul Hogan.
His death was kind of inevitable, really. But, for all his dangling babies in front of wild animals, it is sad.
I'm glad to hear he was doing a documentary at the time, and not just out for a swim. Maybe the stingray was making his own film, showing how dangerous humans can be.
There's a debate about whether they should show the footage. But his work was always like that - he was bitten countless times. "Look at that - it's the point where his tail's gone right through my heart." It's what Steve-O would have wanted.
Pres Zount
09-04-2006, 07:46 AM
all jokes aside, he was a george bush/ john howard loving fuck-wit.
but it's kinda sad he's dead.
zorra_chiflada
09-04-2006, 07:51 AM
all jokes aside, he was a george bush/ john howard loving fuck-wit.
but it's kinda sad he's dead.
yeah, funny that he was all for conservation but hated the greens party and thought that john howard was the "greatest leader ever"
icy manipulator
09-04-2006, 08:14 AM
oh god, there's so many zoltans on my msn list with turtles in their name. excuse me but i have to go punch 2 of my housemates for being fucking nerds
monkey
09-04-2006, 08:26 AM
this is so sad. and the bf just informed me that he will miss the croc hunter very very much. RIP
Nivvie
09-04-2006, 09:14 AM
i am actually sad that he is dead, and the family he left behind. i remember an episode of his show where his family dog died, and he slept with it. i cried like a big fucking baby.
Oh God, I was at work when I saw that. I tried to cry quietly behind a clipboard, but everyone could tell by my huge puffy eyes and nose, very much an Ernest Borgnine look.
na§tee
09-04-2006, 09:27 AM
wasn't it just tragic?! and it had a big sad montage at the end, omg. it was just the saddest thing ever.
hmm, my original post "his family dog died, and he slept with it.." could be taken the wrong way, but i'm glad no-one pointed it out. i mean he stayed with the dog while she was dying, through the night. too, too sad.
ToucanSpam
09-04-2006, 09:32 AM
I guess there won't be a sequal to Crocodile Hunter: Collision Course. Damn.
I hope that his family makes it through this okay.
miss soul fire
09-04-2006, 09:54 AM
That's so sad, but he would end up dying like that.
icy manipulator
09-04-2006, 09:57 AM
i'm gonna fire up that south park episode with him in it in his honour (y) I think that's why I laugh when I think of him... "I'm gonna stick my thumb up his butthole (y), that oughta really piss him off.."
Everything's a joke with me :(
yeha i had to watch that episode too. watched the russell crowe one after that too
cookiepuss
09-04-2006, 11:07 AM
dude, I feel so bad for his wife and babies.:( He was a risk taker...but really it's no different than being a race car driver, stuntman, firefighter, or a barage of other crazy dangerous jobs.
but I have to say I always thought a croc would be the one to bring him too his maker if for no other reason than he seemed to handle them the most. I didn't see the sting ray thing coming.
Those crazy wikipedia guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stingray&oldid=73698155#As_food)
But, yeah, pretty lame. I learned the news from 3 people on my msn having "rip steve irwin" as there personal message bit.
paul jones
09-04-2006, 11:38 AM
R.I.P. Crocodile Hunter
Whatitis
09-04-2006, 11:39 AM
R.I.P. Mr. Irwin
one of the first things i said was cricky.
it sucks he died from it.
cosmo105
09-04-2006, 01:09 PM
his poor wife and children :( terrible news.
El Robot
09-04-2006, 01:44 PM
He was a total legend, it's sad to see him go.
Lindsey_1535
09-04-2006, 02:45 PM
Boooo my dad told me and I didnt think he was tellin the truthhh that nutter!
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 03:07 PM
If you ask me he had it coming. Why is everyone so surprised/upset when a guy who provokes dangerous animals into lashing out for a living finally gets his come-uppance?
TurdBerglar
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
he didn't provoke animals for the sake of provoking animals
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:17 PM
Oh man, another Irwin-lover. I wish the Stingray would puncture YOUR heart, too.
TurdBerglar
09-04-2006, 04:18 PM
no dude
i just said he didn't provoke animals for the sake of provoking animals
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Yeah but when it comes down to it, he was a dickhead and has probably caused many animals death both directly and indirectly, and basically had it coming.
Drederick Tatum
09-04-2006, 04:22 PM
he caused more deaths directly or indirectly?...as always The Padster, you are trying too hard.
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:24 PM
What the fuck are you talking about retard? He has most probably caused multiple animals to die by either physically harming them, or causing them shock/trauma.
OH YEAH I TRIED REALLY HARD ON THAT ONE DUDE (y)
Drederick Tatum
09-04-2006, 04:25 PM
you are a sad little boy.
roosta
09-04-2006, 04:25 PM
how dare he try and work for the preservation of our most endangered animals and help promote knowledge and understanding of these wonderful creatures! the swine.
RIP big Steve
dirtydan11
09-04-2006, 04:28 PM
crikey
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:30 PM
you are a sad little boy.
Bigger than you'll ever be, son.
Drederick Tatum
09-04-2006, 04:32 PM
ok, now you're not trying hard enough.
Rockable
09-04-2006, 04:33 PM
oh boy, I'm really sad.
Some people are just so full of life that you really don't think they will ever die. Even if they hug crocodiles every day.
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:36 PM
ok, now you're not trying hard enough.
Your momma never seems to think so.
venusvenus123
09-04-2006, 04:38 PM
i don't know who he is, but it seems to have upset a lot of people that he died. i can't say i'm bothered.
Lex Diamonds
09-04-2006, 04:43 PM
NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:
are you fucking joking dude, that's insain! Steve Irwin cant die! He's been like.. mauled by lions and bitted by anacondas and shit. WTF?
thats crazy!!!
well.. we all knew he'd go out some way that involves an animal.. I just thought it would be something cooler like.. eaten alive by bears or something.
fuckin A...
1. It's spelt INSANE you fucking moron.
2. Do you even know what "fuckin' A" means?
3. "Bitted by anacondas"? WHAT THE FUCK?
irwin seemed like a really nice guy apart from when he's all over some poor animal
i admit i didn't watch a lot of steve irwin, but to my knowledge he actually tried to help animals, not just piss them off. it's not like "let's go harass nature and tempt fate for the hell of it", he was actually out there trying to do something positive for the animals...in an entertaining and i guess educational way.
could be wrong, but i don't think he was such a villain
tracky
09-04-2006, 05:08 PM
yeah he'd go and help a farmer get rid of a croc on his land or something like that. Occasionally he'd piss an animal off just for the hell of it. Well, he wouldn't intentionally set out to piss it off, he'd like be like "ooer look over there, it's a highly poisoness snake, lets go and have a look" and by look he'd mean catch it talk about it for a bit then let it go
Rancid_Beasties
09-04-2006, 09:48 PM
I feel sorry for his young daughter who apparently was right next to him in the boat when he got barbed. That would fuck a kid up big time :(
He was a nice guy, maybe a bit of a stereotype, but he did alot for conservation and the Australian tourism industry.
hitmonlee
09-04-2006, 10:00 PM
i always thought it was funny that the first introduction i had to steve irwin was the south park episode. didn't find out who he was until a few months later.
seemed like an awesome guy, watched the denton interview with his last night. he was so passionate.
bigblu89
09-04-2006, 10:16 PM
Yes, it's a ball of tragedy that he died, but you wanna talk about irony...
According to aol.com:
Irwin was at Batt Reef, off the remote coast of northeastern Queensland state, shooting a segment for a series called "Ocean's Deadliest" when he swam too close to one of the animals, which have a poisonous barb on their tails, his friend and colleague John Stainton said.
I guess he proved that point.
icy manipulator
09-04-2006, 11:58 PM
padster, just shut the fuck up, keep your opinions to yourself, go smoke another joint and jack off to wayne rooney
Tone Capone
09-05-2006, 01:24 AM
Sorry I didn't see this thread.
Lex Diamonds
09-05-2006, 01:36 AM
padster, just shut the fuck up, keep your opinions to yourself, go smoke another joint and jack off to wayne rooney
Why don't you just marry Steve Irwin if you love him so much?
Oh wait you can't, he's dead! LOL!
Justin
09-05-2006, 01:38 AM
wow
Nivvie
09-05-2006, 02:32 AM
There's no denying he did upset a load of animals. I saw a program years ago where he was out in the bush and grabbed a snake amongst other things that was minding it's own business so it could have it's 15 mins of fame. I'd much rather someone sat with their camera for months it they had to, to get that kind of footage. Plus all the penguin controversy. We know what penguins look like, there's loads of great film of them out there, he didn't need to go getting close to them.
I also read yesterday that the ray that killed him only attacks when very provoked, hence how there's only been 3 deaths so far.
But still, his heart was in the right place, he was a conservationist, and did rescue a load of animals, but I don't think it's right to call him a naturalist. His approach was anything but natural, far more zoological.
Justin
09-05-2006, 02:56 AM
It is now being reported that this was caught on videotape!
Im sure it will leak out somehow..
I always thought the dude was crazy. I guess he really enjoyed doing what he done (discounting the risk of dying)
I dont even like petting cats and dogs...more less snakes and crocodiles!
Come to think of it, i really dont like animals, especially these damn geese that fly in from canada to pittsburgh to live. They are all over the fucking city.
Pres Zount
09-05-2006, 03:38 AM
There's no denying he did upset a load of animals. I saw a program years ago where he was out in the bush and grabbed a snake amongst other things that was minding it's own business so it could have it's 15 mins of fame. I'd much rather someone sat with their camera for months it they had to, to get that kind of footage. Plus all the penguin controversy. We know what penguins look like, there's loads of great film of them out there, he didn't need to go getting close to them.
I also read yesterday that the ray that killed him only attacks when very provoked, hence how there's only been 3 deaths so far.
But still, his heart was in the right place, he was a conservationist, and did rescue a load of animals, but I don't think it's right to call him a naturalist. His approach was anything but natural, far more zoological.
Yeah, getting dangerously close to whales and shit. Everyone else has to watch them from a distance, but steve irwin doesn't.
didn't.
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 06:27 AM
It is now being reported that this was caught on videotape!
Im sure it will leak out somehow..
I always thought the dude was crazy. I guess he really enjoyed doing what he done (discounting the risk of dying)
I dont even like petting cats and dogs...more less snakes and crocodiles!
Come to think of it, i really dont like animals, especially these damn geese that fly in from canada to pittsburgh to live. They are all over the fucking city.
yeah, police here have viewed the tape and have said it was an unprovoked attack
Otis Driftwood
09-05-2006, 06:49 AM
:mad: So they musta been eager to arrest that fish? :mad:
Dumb sobs!
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 06:59 AM
i could have a big rant now but i wont, his death is not something to be made fun of. He was just a good guy who meant alot to all australians and especially queenslanders. i must admit i thought he was an over the top douchebag at first that was giving us a bad reputation, but then i saw that interview he did with Andrew Denton that i think Nastee wrote about in a tribute, and that's when i realise, as did most of australia, that's he's a genuinly good guy. he never would have wanted to hurt any animals or any of the other things people have said. he really has put australia on the map, and he means alot to me and pretty much everyone i know
it's not something to be made fun of, so anyone that say's he deserved it, or he had it coming, then i must say a big fuck you to you.
and i'll to give a special fuck you ya fucking cunt to UK patrick. if you've got nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all
mikizee
09-05-2006, 07:03 AM
i could have a big rant now but i wont, his death is not something to be made fun of. He was just a good guy who meant alot to all australians and especially queenslanders. i must admit i thought he was an over the top douchebag at first that was giving us a bad reputation, but then i saw that interview he did with Andrew Denton that i think Nastee wrote about in a tribute, and that's when i realise, as did most of australia, that's he's a genuinly good guy. he never would have wanted to hurt any animals or any of the other things people have said. he really has put australia on the map, and he means alot to me and pretty much everyone i know
it's not something to be made fun of, so anyone that say's he deserved it, or he had it coming, then i must say a big fuck you to you.
and i'll to give a special fuck you ya fucking cunt to UK patrick. if you've got nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all
word. amen, brother.
na§tee
09-05-2006, 08:39 AM
i agree, icy, but i don't think germaine greer does:
"That sort of self-delusion is what it takes to be a real Aussie larrikin" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1865124,00.html)
- Germain Greer, The Guardian
The world mourns. World-famous wildlife warrior Steve Irwin has died a hero, doing the thing he loved, filming a sequence for a new TV series. He was supposed to have been making a new documentary to have been called Ocean's Deadliest, but, when filming was held up by bad weather, he decided to "go off and shoot a few segments" for his eight-year-old daughter's upcoming TV series, "just stuff on the reef and little animals". His manager John Stainton "just said fine, anything that would keep him moving and keep his adrenaline going". Evidently it's Stainton's job to keep Irwin pumped larger than life, shouting "Crikey!" and punching the air.
Irwin was the real Crocodile Dundee, a great Australian, an ambassador for wildlife, a global phenomenon, a superhuman generator of merchandise, books, interactive video-games and action figures. The only creatures he couldn't dominate were parrots. A parrot once did its best to rip his nose off his face. Parrots are a lot smarter than crocodiles.
What seems to have happened on Batt Reef is that Irwin and a cameraman went off in a little dinghy to see what they could find. What they found were stingrays. You can just imagine Irwin yelling: "Just look at these beauties! Crikey! With those barbs a stingray can kill a horse!" (Yes, Steve, but a stingray doesn't want to kill a horse. It eats crustaceans, for God's sake.) All Australian children know about stingrays. We are now being told that only three people have ever been killed by Australian stingrays. One of them must have been the chap who bought it 60 years ago in Brighton Baths where my school used to go on swimming days. Port Philip Bay was famous for stingrays, which are fine as long as you can see them, but they do what most Dasyatidae do, which is bury themselves in the sand or mud with only their eyes sticking out. What you don't want to do with a stingray is stand on it. The lashing response of the tail is automatic; the barb is coated with a bacterial slime as deadly as rotten oyster toxin.
As a Melbourne boy, Irwin should have had a healthy respect for stingrays, which are actually commoner, and bigger, in southern waters than they are near Port Douglas, where he was killed. The film-makers maintain that the ray that took Irwin out was a "bull ray", or Dasyatis brevicaudata, but this is not usually found as far north as Port Douglas. Marine biologist Dr Meredith Peach has been quoted as saying, "It's really quite unusual for divers to be stung unless they are grappling with the animal and, knowing Steve Irwin, perhaps that may have been the case." Not much sympathy there then.
The only time Irwin ever seemed less than entirely lovable to his fans (as distinct from zoologists) was when he went into the Australia Zoo crocodile enclosure with his month-old baby son in one hand and a dead chicken in the other. For a second you didn't know which one he meant to feed to the crocodile. If the crocodile had been less depressed it might have made the decision for him. As the catatonic beast obediently downed its tiny snack, Irwin walked his baby on the grass, not something that paediatricians recommend for rubbery baby legs even when there isn't a stir-crazy carnivore a few feet away. The adoring world was momentarily appalled. They called it child abuse. The whole spectacle was revolting. The crocodile would rather have been anywhere else and the chicken had had a grim life too, but that's entertainment at Australia Zoo.
Irwin's response to the sudden outburst of criticism was bizarre. He believed that he had the crocodile under control. But he could have fallen over, suggested an interviewer. He admitted that was possible, but only if a meteor had hit the earth and caused an earthquake of 6.6 on the Richter scale. That sort of self-delusion is what it takes to be a "real Aussie larrikin".
What Irwin never seemed to understand was that animals need space. The one lesson any conservationist must labour to drive home is that habitat loss is the principal cause of species loss. There was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into, trumpeting his wonder and amazement to the skies. There was not an animal he was not prepared to manhandle. Every creature he brandished at the camera was in distress. Every snake badgered by Irwin was at a huge disadvantage, with only a single possible reaction to its terrifying situation, which was to strike. Easy enough to avoid, if you know what's coming. Even my cat knew that much. Those of us who live with snakes, as I do with no fewer than 12 front-fanged venomous snake species in my bit of Queensland rainforest, know that they will get out of our way if we leave them a choice. Some snakes are described as aggressive, but, if you're a snake, unprovoked aggression doesn't make sense. Snakes on a plane only want to get off. But Irwin was an entertainer, a 21st-century version of a lion-tamer, with crocodiles instead of lions.
In 2004, Irwin was accused of illegally encroaching on the space of penguins, seals and humpback whales in Antarctica, where he was filming a documentary called Ice Breaker. An investigation by the Australian Environmental Department resulted in no action being taken, which is not surprising seeing that John Howard, the prime minister, made sure that Irwin was one of the guests invited to a "gala barbecue" for George Bush a few months before. Howard is now Irwin's chief mourner, which is only fair, seeing that Irwin announced that Howard is the greatest leader the world has ever seen.
The animal world has finally taken its revenge on Irwin, but probably not before a whole generation of kids in shorts seven sizes too small has learned to shout in the ears of animals with hearing 10 times more acute than theirs, determined to become millionaire animal-loving zoo-owners in their turn.
zorra_chiflada
09-05-2006, 08:42 AM
i agree with her.
na§tee
09-05-2006, 08:45 AM
i guess, i do see her point too. i don't agree with the whole aggressively handling of the animals. i agree with his passion, but not the whole in-yer-face-ness.
i also agree with icy that's it not really cool to be totally disrespectful to him in death when, despite all the reasons you may have for his questionable presenting technique, he genuinely seemed like a nice bloke. who, despite shouting at animals and prodding them a bit, didn't have to die.
zorra_chiflada
09-05-2006, 08:46 AM
i guess, i do see her point too. i don't agree with the whole aggressively handling of the animals. i agree with his passion, but not the whole in-yer-face-ness.
i also agree with icy that's it not really cool to be totally disrespectful to him in death when, despite all the reasons you may have for his questionable presenting technique, he genuinely seemed like a nice bloke. who, despite shouting at animals and prodding them a bit, didn't have to die.
of course he didn't. it's not like he was a bad person, or completely evil.
also, he had a young family that was probably very dependent on him and will have a hard time coping without him.
'The animal world has finally taken its revenge on Irwin'
you gotta be fucking kidding me...
my cousins love the guy - and this fucking cunt bitch whore goes and says that? what a load of toss..
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 08:59 AM
germaine greer critizises everything, no one would pay too much attention to that article here. the fact is that we loved him, and there's nothing more to say
QueenAdrock
09-05-2006, 09:53 AM
The weird thing is, there was a CNN blurb about Steve Irwin dying yesterday before my friends and I left go to to the NC Aquarium. We didn't get the details of his death because we were in a hurry to go and pet the sting rays. When Brett told me the details of his death, I seriously thought he was pulling my leg because he knew I was at an aquarium earlier.
Our stingrays were very nice. Felt like rubber. And when they nibble on your hands, it feels like a toothbrush.
that kinda freaks me out because i've snorkelled and swum under massive motherfucking stingrays - a metre in diametre easily.. and they don't do much. they just float by/under you.
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 10:15 AM
that kinda freaks me out because i've snorkelled and swum under massive motherfucking stingrays - a metre in diametre easily.. and they don't do much. they just float by/under you.
i had a fear of water for ages because when i was young we used to go jetty jumping and one time when i was 8 i jumped on top of a manta ray and it scared the shit out of me! those things are huge and i dont think i've ever swum so fast in my life
Kid Presentable
09-05-2006, 10:48 AM
Germaine Greer can't really get taken seriously for love nor money in my opinion. This dude died; you'd expect people to feel bad for you if someone in your family died, so think about his wife and kids.
ggirlballa
09-05-2006, 11:14 AM
:eek:
cookiepuss
09-05-2006, 11:16 AM
Our stingrays were very nice. Felt like rubber. And when they nibble on your hands, it feels like a toothbrush.
They trim the barbs on the sting-rays at the aquariums so they can't injury anyone. Thier barbs grow back like finger nails so they have to keep them clipped on a regular basis. but that's why you are allowed to pet them, because they are maintained for your safety.
Also I read the one that got steve was pretty damn big, like 220lbs. so you can imagine the stinger was pretty large. I dodn't know if it would have made a difference, because the toxins would probably have killed him before help could get there, but it kinda sounds like he did alot of damage by pulling the stinger out of his chest. but I'm sure that's pretty instinctual that you would pull the thing out. apparently the whole thing is on tape and will probably end up on the net somehow. I don't think I could watch it.:(
QueenAdrock
09-05-2006, 11:24 AM
They trim the barbs on the sting-rays at the aquariums so they can't injury anyone. Thier barbs grow back like finger nails so they have to keep them clipped on a regular basis. but that's why you are allowed to pet them, because they are maintained for your safety.
That makes sense then. My friend grabbed his tail and I was like NO DUDE, STOP, but nothing happened to him.
Oh yeah, they had 2 otters at the aquarium and I thought of you. :o I hate how I associate things with board members sometimes, because it makes me feel super-nerdy.
Lex Diamonds
09-05-2006, 11:42 AM
and i'll to give a special fuck you ya fucking cunt to UK patrick. if you've got nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all
That applies to about 95% of posts on here. But hey, so does hypocrisy, so whatever man.
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 11:46 AM
That applies to about 95% of posts on here. But hey, so does hypocrisy, so whatever man.
dude you were just really pissing me off hey. just letting you know
Lex Diamonds
09-05-2006, 12:02 PM
OK man sorry if I offended you, but when people die I think you just gotta try and see the funny side. If you get upset when Steve Irwin dies how you gonna feel when your parents or wife die? I dunno man, it's just my way of dealing with the sad shit.
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 12:07 PM
i'm not upset it's just i dont like people taking it as a joke. you'd get the shit beaten out of you for saying that kind of stuff in queensland. it's like if Alex Fergerson was killed by some hooligan and people joked about it as if that wouldn't piss you off. bad example i know but i cant think of anything more specific
Lex Diamonds
09-05-2006, 12:09 PM
Like I said I'm sorry, don't want you to think I'm just some heartless dickhead. I know most of the time I am but believe me, death isn't something I take lightly. It's just that I've experienced enough of it in my family to sort of "get used" to it, if you could look at it like that.
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 12:12 PM
all good brass, as long as i keep ahead of you on fantasy football things are sweet :cool:
Lex Diamonds
09-05-2006, 12:13 PM
Aw fuck you ya Chelski cunt!
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 12:14 PM
you cant lose with a team half full of chavs :cool:
Lyman Zerga
09-05-2006, 12:38 PM
Why don't you just marry Steve Irwin if you love him so much?
Oh wait you can't, he's dead! LOL!
funny though
admsitio
09-05-2006, 02:50 PM
I cant believe Steve Irwin is dead.I've been watching his programs for many years and now a fuckin stingray .. FUCK!
Pres Zount
09-05-2006, 04:03 PM
that kinda freaks me out because i've snorkelled and swum under massive motherfucking stingrays - a metre in diametre easily.. and they don't do much. they just float by/under you.
hmmm... did you try poking it or grabbing it? Maybe that would work.
b-grrrlie
09-05-2006, 05:01 PM
I was never a fan of his, I didn't like his attitude and the way he manhandled animals. David Attenborough is more my style, just quietly observing. I totally agree with that Germain Greer, s/he (I don't know what gender that name is) makes some really good points there to think about. I hope he won't be put up on some piedestal now that he's dead, cause I think he did more damage than good.
zorra_chiflada
09-05-2006, 05:15 PM
what germaine said was not insulting to him as a person - she did not imply that he was a bad person, or that he deserved to die. all she did was criticise his methods. maybe she should have waited until another time.
Drederick Tatum
09-05-2006, 05:42 PM
cause I think he did more damage than good.
that's bullshit.
TurdBerglar
09-05-2006, 06:01 PM
steve Irwin did more for teaching the general population about animals than any other person i can think of, and his techniques were the reason why. i don't see how pissing off a snake or two is really at that bad since it's being used to help with people in understanding the plight of these animals. i think he's done more to bring the idea of animal conservation to joe shmoe than any person that has ever lived.
and it's not like he enjoys seeing animals suffer. anyone who has seen his shows could easily understand that.
HOTWIFE
09-05-2006, 06:08 PM
My husband and I loved the guy. That was 'our show'.:( I heard people making fun of him on a sport talk radio station in a segment called the 'whiner line'. People can be so cruel.
Lyman Zerga
09-05-2006, 07:38 PM
i didnt know he had so many fans
i always thought he was a joke
well a dead joke now
YoungRemy
09-05-2006, 08:36 PM
crikey:(
Kid Presentable
09-05-2006, 08:42 PM
what germaine said was not insulting to him as a person - she did not imply that he was a bad person, or that he deserved to die. all she did was criticise his methods. maybe she should have waited until another time.
It's like she's sitting in the passenger seat of modern history going: "I knew we shouldn't have gone this way!".
kleptomaniac
09-05-2006, 08:47 PM
i've been hearing about it all day today at school and my friend says it's being overplayed on the news so much she doesn't really care anymore, but man i think it sucks :(
i think he was a pretty cool guy. knew this would happen eventually, but not so soon i guess...now it all sinks in....
ok life goes on. next...
icy manipulator
09-05-2006, 11:27 PM
i didnt know he had so many fans
i always thought he was a joke
well a dead joke now
he had about half a billion fans world wide. More people know who Steve Irwin is than John Howard. Yeah people thought he was a joke here at first too because he appealled to the american audience so much, but then we realised he's a genuine bloke and just a general good guy
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discopants
09-06-2006, 02:36 AM
I was totally shocked when I heard about this the other day. The guy was a a legend, he had to be one of the most well known and loved Australians in the entire world. He ssummed up all of the Aussies best qualities you know. The guy ran his own zoo and saved countless animals from poachers and shit. A guy like that to die at 44? Thats just fucking tragic.
David Attenborough is more my style, just quietly observing.
quietly observing and saying 'this snake will strike if you were to do this and that' is like saying 'you can sit fairly close to this wild animal and watch it if you so wish'
Steve had the balls to show everyone on earth HOW they will strike and under what circumstances - to me, that's better education than a narration. a young child isn't gonna sit back and watch a snake slither past.. they're gonna want to "OH WOW! A SNAKE! LET'S KEEP IT!" and go and grab it.
Pres Zount
09-06-2006, 08:21 AM
^ yeah, but wich one do you think children should be taking after, and learning from? The dead "larikin"? Or the distinguished scientist? Steve has taught a generation of kids it's okay to pick snakes up by the tail.
I can tell you that David Attenborough would be more sorely missed, and a bigger loss to the conservation community, than Steve Irwin.
David Attenborough rules.
^ yeah, but wich one do you think children should be taking after, and learning from? The dead "larikin"? Or the distinguished scientist?
i didn't say they should take after any of them... i just said who would give them the best impression of what to do with a snake that's 2 metres away from them.
ask any 5-12 year old kid who David Attenborough is... they'll give you his bio, no doubt.
Pres Zount
09-06-2006, 08:38 AM
So we should be asking stupid kids who to praise and who to ignore? Spiderman for president! YAya!
"i just said who would give them the best impression of what to do with a snake that's 2 metres away from them. "
what to do when a snake is 2 metres from you?
Dave: "leave it alone"
Steve: "grab it's tail"
Which one should kids be doing?
Seriously, the two guys are not even on the same level. The diffrence between science and enertainment couldn't be bigger in this context.
venusvenus123
09-06-2006, 08:44 AM
i'll be sad when germaine greer dies.
icy manipulator
09-06-2006, 09:05 AM
i'll be sad when germaine greer dies.
everyone here now hates her. Then again, everyone here has always hated her
Pres Zount
09-06-2006, 09:12 AM
I suppose I could appreciate Gemain Greer more than I could Steve Irwin, but I would probably be less sadened by her death.
Isn't grief strange?
discopants
09-06-2006, 09:12 AM
Steve Irwin never told kids to pick up snakes and whatnot he always explicitly said that he was an expert. I like Attenborough but Irwin did more to encourage kids about conservation and wildlife doo-dahs can be fun.
Why wont Germaine Greer just fuck off with her fucking bullshit. We know your an outspoken feminist, now go stick the kettle on.
na§tee
09-06-2006, 09:14 AM
germaine greer. she is always the most entertaining one on newsnight.
i like how she lists her profession as "cultural commentator". mummy, when i grow up i want to be a cultural commentator! aren't we all, in some way, cultural commentators? i sure as fuck don't get invited on to big brother for saying my piece!
Rancid_Beasties
09-06-2006, 10:02 AM
I hate Karl Stefanovic, what a fucking twit. The way he interviewed Germaine Greer was pretty unprofessional. He really pandered to the lowest common denominator.
Greer was out of line, but not entirely incorrect. She put her opinion forward at the wrong time, but its still a pretty valid opinion. Stefanovic basically called her a crazy old bitch, and said that she was the only one who thought Irwin wasn't the greatest australian ever. I am pretty sure millions of Australians would've agreed that Irwin was a stereotype and somewhat of an embarassment and that his methods were less than satisfactory if you had've asked them the day before he died. But to raise that now, as the nation is still mourning, Greer is just asking for it. Seriously, sometimes she can be insightful, but more often than not she comes at as a shit stirrer. She really needs to think about timing if she wants to be taken seriously.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 11:53 AM
^ yeah, but wich one do you think children should be taking after, and learning from? The dead "larikin"? Or the distinguished scientist? Steve has taught a generation of kids it's okay to pick snakes up by the tail.
I can tell you that David Attenborough would be more sorely missed, and a bigger loss to the conservation community, than Steve Irwin.
David Attenborough rules.
Fuck that. Steve Irwin showed me that you don't have to be scared enough of an animal to kill it; just release it back into the wild.
And Steve Irwin never ever said grab its tail. He said "I'm mental enough to grab its tail, clearly I'm not an ideal role-model".
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 11:57 AM
germaine greer. she is always the most entertaining one on newsnight.
i like how she lists her profession as "cultural commentator". mummy, when i grow up i want to be a cultural commentator! aren't we all, in some way, cultural commentators? i sure as fuck don't get invited on to big brother for saying my piece!
Cultural Commentator means 'Writes letters to the editor for a living'.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 12:16 PM
I hate Karl Stefanovic, what a fucking twit. The way he interviewed Germaine Greer was pretty unprofessional. He really pandered to the lowest common denominator.
Greer was out of line, but not entirely incorrect. She put her opinion forward at the wrong time, but its still a pretty valid opinion. Stefanovic basically called her a crazy old bitch, and said that she was the only one who thought Irwin wasn't the greatest australian ever. I am pretty sure millions of Australians would've agreed that Irwin was a stereotype and somewhat of an embarassment and that his methods were less than satisfactory if you had've asked them the day before he died. But to raise that now, as the nation is still mourning, Greer is just asking for it. Seriously, sometimes she can be insightful, but more often than not she comes at as a shit stirrer. She really needs to think about timing if she wants to be taken seriously.
I had never thought badly of the man, even when he did stupid shit with his baby, or the penguins. Because he lived by his actions. Anything that could have gone wrong, he knew he would wear. If that croc ate his baby, the world would have turned on him, and he would have known why. He even admitted it was a silly move.
I think a sub-set exists in Australia that refuses to acknowledge anything that isn't moderately bohemian, and slightly ironic. The man was good for this country, love him or hate him.
Lyman Zerga
09-06-2006, 12:48 PM
he had about half a billion fans world wide. More people know who Steve Irwin is than John Howard. Yeah people thought he was a joke here at first too because he appealled to the american audience so much, but then we realised he's a genuine bloke and just a general good guy
i told my mum steve irwin is dead and she was like ehh who?
they played that crocodile hunter show here 2 or 3 years ago for a few months
and they mentioned him on the news with that crocodile/his baby thing but thats it
i doubt he has many fans here and many dont even know him it seems
and who is john howard?
icy manipulator
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
and who is john howard?
hahahaha
he's the Prime Minister of Australia
miss soul fire
09-06-2006, 02:01 PM
I love to see videos that show him cuddling with cute animals. It's so cute.
icy manipulator
09-06-2006, 02:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_SdQNWxNfg
here's that interview he did with Andrew Denton on Enough Rope if anyone's interested. It's worth checking out
miss soul fire
09-06-2006, 02:28 PM
Thanks for the link, icy.
Have you guys ever noticed that he used to wear the same clothes all the time? Crazy.
icy manipulator
09-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Have you guys ever noticed that he used to wear the same clothes all the time? Crazy.
"i have a pair of jeans"
Lyman Zerga
09-06-2006, 05:47 PM
hahahaha
he's the Prime Minister of Australia
hmm no one cares about him here
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 06:48 PM
<3 germaine. i love how she doesn't give a fuck, and will just say whatever she wants. she's very intelligent as well. now, she's a great australian, but everyone hates her because she's a feminist, and she has opinions different to everyone else OMG WITCH, BURN HER AT THE STAKE!
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:19 PM
<3 germaine. i love how she doesn't give a fuck, and will just say whatever she wants. she's very intelligent as well. now, she's a great australian, but everyone hates her because she's a feminist, and she has opinions different to everyone else OMG WITCH, BURN HER AT THE STAKE!
Not at all. She just says very little of value, is all.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:20 PM
Not at all. She just says very little of value, is all.
i disagree. she doesn't want australia to be a joke stereotype - which it is. it seems we hate intelligence in this country
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:25 PM
i disagree. she doesn't want australia to be a joke stereotype - which it is. it seems we hate intelligence in this country
Germaine Greer seems to want to pick and choose her views of 'Australian'. Now I'm sure not any dunce off the street could do what Steve Irwin did, so I wouldn't go as far as calling him unintelligent. If anything, her embittered cutting down of people is the stereotype; one that presents itself far more often in Australians than anything Steve Irwin did. A poor old has-been who is jealous of any success that isn't her own is all she shows me. It seems we hate achievements in this country, too.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:30 PM
Germaine Greer seems to want to pick and choose her views of 'Australian'. Now I'm sure not any dunce off the street could do what Steve Irwin did, so I wouldn't go as far as calling him unintelligent. If anything, her embittered cutting down of people is the stereotype; one that presents itself far more often in Australians than anything Steve Irwin did. A poor old has-been who is jealous of any success that isn't her own is all she shows me. It seems we hate achievements in this country, too.
so what, she's only allowed to show gratuitous praise of anyone deemed as an "australian legend"? if it was her that died, no doubt there would be hordes of people cheering, celebrating the death of the embittered old feminist.
australian pride is ridiculous when the only thing we are proud of is the only reason why nobody will take this country seriously.
i agree, she could have chosen a better time, but her sentiments are true. she's got balls to disagree with what we're "supposed" to think.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:39 PM
so what, she's only allowed to show gratuitous praise of anyone deemed as an "australian legend"? if it was her that died, no doubt there would be hordes of people cheering, celebrating the death of the embittered old feminist.
australian pride is ridiculous when the only thing we are proud of is the only reason why nobody will take this country seriously.
i agree, she could have chosen a better time, but her sentiments are true. she's got balls to disagree with what we're "supposed" to think.
How excatly am I "supposed" to think it, when it's what I actually think? It takes very little courage to write an essay. Her feminst views are immaterial, it just illustrates that some people are miles removed from what Australia actually is.
I hate some mouth-breathers too, and like Ms. Greer I occasionally think I'm better than them. But there comes a time when you have to accept that this is what Australia is. If you don't like it, then fine. But people like The Crocodile Hunter are far more Australian in an iconical sense than Germaine Greer.
People might take Australians as people more seriously, if so many of them weren't deeply ashamed of their cultural ambassadors. Yes, I suppose my Greer bashing fits into that category, but then so does her Irwin-bashing.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:44 PM
How excatly am I "supposed" to think it, when it's what I actually think? It takes very little courage to write an essay. Her feminst views are immaterial, it just illustrates that some people are miles removed from what Australia actually is.
I hate some mouth-breathers too, and like Ms. Greer I occasionally think I'm better than them. But there comes a time when you have to accept that this is what Australia is. If you don't like it, then fine. But people like The Crocodile Hunter are far more Australian in an iconical sense than Germaine Greer.
People might take Australians as people more seriously, if so many of them weren't deeply ashamed of their cultural ambassadors. Yes, I suppose my Greer bashing fits into that category, but then so does her Irwin-bashing.
riiight. it seems that you've actually missed the point of what she has said. all she did was question his methods and his political standings as a conservationist (he was a rabid john howard fan and hated the greens party.
australia is what it is today because of the people unwilling to change it, i'm thinking the cronulla riots here. is that what australia is? am i supposed to be proud of that australia?
anyway, staying on topic, she is no different than australia's beloved allan jones and john laws, except she is educated and has her own mind
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:46 PM
riiight. it seems that you've actually missed the point of what she has said. all she did was question his methods and his political standings as a conservationist (he was a rabid john howard fan and hated the greens party.
australia is what it is today because of the people unwilling to change it, i'm thinking the cronulla riots here. is that what australia is? am i supposed to be proud of that australia?
anyway, staying on topic, she is no different than australia's beloved allan jones and john laws, except she is educated and has her own mind
All of those things she said, people knew about Steve Irwin. If you think his role in cosying up to Howard could have affected the winds of change, then you already place more value on him than you care to admit.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:47 PM
btw, it does take courage for her to write such an essay, facing death threats from the aussie zealouts
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:48 PM
btw, it does take courage for her to write such an essay, facing death threats from the aussie zealouts
Yeah, cause Steve Irwin never faced death threats.
And what are you doing today to change the country, anyway?
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:49 PM
All of those things she said, people knew about Steve Irwin. If you think his role in cosying up to Howard could have affected the winds of change, then you already place more value on him than you care to admit.
that's not value. personally, i have found it very hard to take him seriously as a conservationist when he believed that john howard was the "greatest leader ever"
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah, cause Steve Irwin never faced death threats.
And what are you doing today to change the country, anyway?
why are you so offended anyway?
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:51 PM
that's not value. personally, i have found it very hard to take him seriously as a conservationist when he believed that john howard was the "greatest leader ever"
Well, that's too bad. Because most people are just bummed out that the man is dead. I wouldn't call Howard the greatest leader ever, but the alternatives would drive this place into the ocean.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:52 PM
why are you so offended anyway?
Because people who sit in little glass-houses pointing out the plainly obvious about dead people appeal to a much lower common denominator than The Crocodile Hunter. And that offends me because it breeds ignorance.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:52 PM
i feel sorry for his family and those who were close to him.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:54 PM
I feel bad for them too.
Aaaaaanyway, I'm sure other people would like to post and whatnot, so at least we've both made our cases.:)
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 07:54 PM
Because people who sit in little glass-houses pointing out the plainly obvious about dead people appeal to a much lower common denominator than The Crocodile Hunter. And that offends me because it breeds ignorance.
all i did was agree with greer's sentiments. maybe i should just sit back and forget about saying what i think.
you're going to get a bunch of people posting, congratulating you, and i'm gonna get a bunch calling be an evil bitch, like i'm some kind of traitor. congratulations.
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 07:57 PM
all i did was agree with greer's sentiments. maybe i should just sit back and forget about saying what i think.
you're going to get a bunch of people posting, congratulating you, and i'm gonna get a bunch calling be an evil bitch, like i'm some kind of traitor. congratulations.
I don't care what they might say, why do you? I think you made some good points, I just disagreed with some of your stances. Fuck them.
tracky
09-06-2006, 07:57 PM
Just for the record, I couldn't give a shit either way
skra75
09-06-2006, 07:57 PM
sweet jesus this thread is gay.
zorra_chiflada
09-06-2006, 08:00 PM
I don't care what they might say, why do you? I think you made some good points, I just disagreed with some of your stances. Fuck them.
yeah, well, you know, i have feelings too. and having shit said about me because i disagree with most people does upset me to a certain extent. i'm not purposely trying to "rock the boat" or disagree for the sake of disagreeing
Kid Presentable
09-06-2006, 08:01 PM
Just for the record, I couldn't give a shit either way
See? And tracky's money.
Why wont Germaine Greer just fuck off with her fucking bullshit. We know your an outspoken feminist, now go stick the kettle on.
she's a feminist? that explains alot.
Pres Zount
09-06-2006, 11:24 PM
Do you not know who Germaine Greer is?
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 01:01 AM
i have 3 ppl on msn atm who's names are along the lines of 'germaine greer can suck my hairy balls'
hitmonlee
09-07-2006, 01:09 AM
<3 germaine. i love how she doesn't give a fuck, and will just say whatever she wants. she's very intelligent as well. now, she's a great australian, but everyone hates her because she's a feminist, and she has opinions different to everyone else OMG WITCH, BURN HER AT THE STAKE!
she was using a mans death to further her own agenda, 2 days after his death. i didn't think that much of steve irwin beyond him being a tv presenter and a pretty funny guy, obviously from a completely differnet background to me, and a totally different mindset. i think a lot of aussie felt this way.
shame on you germaine.
lol @ kevin rudd telling her to shut up
i love kevin rudd
edited: to add some stuff and reiterate how pissed off i am at germaine for using his death to get her name out there. its times like this i want to tell her to choke on a dick :)
Nivvie
09-07-2006, 01:43 AM
Germain is just doing what a ton of people did after Princess Diana died, voicing an opinion that maybe some people don't want to hear, but that won't be changed by a person's death.
I remember hearing someone talk on the radio after Diana died called her a stupid, selfish fake, which is far worse than what Germain said about Steve Irwin, she didn't strike me as someone really laying the boot in.
The only questionable thing about negative opinions is the timing. No one should change how they feel, but there is a sensitivity issue.
The Notorious LOL
09-07-2006, 01:45 AM
shocker...a guy who made his living working with dangerous fucking animals got killed by one.
he seemed like a decent guy though.
Do you not know who Germaine Greer is?
no, i don't. i thought it was a dude.
na§tee
09-07-2006, 05:11 AM
avenge the crocodile hunter (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/flash/avenge-the-crocodile-hunter-199013.php)
WARNING: may offend.
EXTRA WARNING: miss § is in no way condoning said content. it is from tasteless flash game central!
i am only linking to a place which is linking it. i read kotaku all the time. i just find it hilarious that it is tagged with "australia is a nightmare continent".
tracky
09-07-2006, 05:25 AM
^ I didn't find that game offensive. I didn't really find it that funny either. It was very meh. it's funnier what they say about Australia. You think if it was that deadly here we'd be living here? Yeah sure if you want to drive for 3 hours, and wander off into the bush, you probably won't come back, but around the cities and stuff it's pretty safe. Plus you're brought up to be aware of all that shit
na§tee
09-07-2006, 05:29 AM
you have big fucking house spider type things :eek:. i would piss my panties!
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 05:47 AM
you have big fucking house spider type things :eek:. i would piss my panties!
trap door spiders? they're only in New South Wales i think. yeah, as tracky said there's nothing to worry about, not even kangaroos. i think queenslands the worse, especially north queensland. Sweet, i live in the most dangerous place on earth!
na§tee
09-07-2006, 05:56 AM
kangaroos are meant to really smell. or is it koalas? yeah. stink. seriously! my australian ex-boyfriend of my flatmate told me.
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 06:05 AM
yeah koala's stink like shit, kangaroo's prolly do too. And dont be fooled, koala's have fucking sharp claws! Kangaroo dont taste that bad either
Pres Zount
09-07-2006, 06:08 AM
I've never seen a kangaroo or a koala in real life.
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 06:09 AM
I've never seen a kangaroo or a koala in real life.
really? dont they exist in tassie? or are they just really rare?
Pres Zount
09-07-2006, 06:13 AM
They are only in zoo's. I've seen plenty of walabies, if that counts.
Liek, enough walabies to make a full kangaroo.
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 06:16 AM
you have possum's right? they're bloody everywhere. Emu's, wombats, echidnas?
Pres Zount
09-07-2006, 06:20 AM
Yeah, all that jazz. No emu's.
icy manipulator
09-07-2006, 06:25 AM
i guess you make up for it with lots and lots of devils. make up for not having any koalas, kangaroos or emu's with the mythacal Thylacine
Bilby's? i always love chocolate Bilby's for easter
solider crabs? actually i dont think they're native to australia but they still rock
icy manipulator
09-09-2006, 03:54 PM
for the aussie. dont know if this is been shown everywhere but on fox digital the Animal Planet channel is having a Tribute to Steve Irwin marathon all weekend. damn, after watching some of his stuff he really was a crazy mofo.
Doobiebee
09-11-2006, 07:11 AM
At first I used to be like, Oh yeah, Steve Irwin *rolls eyes* omg, I hope pple don’t think all Australians are like that… but I saw him on this talk show once, and he seemed like an alright dude, really likeable, because he was so excited and enthusiastic about his work and stuff, and he still had those little hotpants on and like sat on the lounge like he was at home, which was amusing. So it was weird hearing how he died, and just imagining like all cold and lifeless.
But yeah, I think it’s not entirely his fault about any “stereo-types” cause I mean, it’s also the people that look at him and are like oh yeah, that must be how they all are, or whatever.
As for what that feminist Germaine Greer said, or wrote, I don’t know that much about her, though I’ve read the Female Eunuch, that’s about as far as I know, yeah, I see where she’s coming from, and I agree that her timing was off. I mean, couldn’t she have said that earlier, or like, not so soon after his death? Personally I think her judgement is kind of cold, and harsh, and critical. I mean, he is human, and flawed and crap, he wasn’t a saint or nothing and didn’t claim to be. Like, his politics, yeah, they might have been off, but I doubt he was very political, and I can kind of understand why he would be enthusiastic about the country’s leader, as crappy as he may be, as he singled him out and he prolly felt honoured or whatever.
He did seem to annoy the animals, though I think he had the best intentions. But yeah, her opinion is valid, I guess at least someone is pointing it out though, and maybe making people think about it…but yeah, the timing is like, damn.
Anyhoo….whoops sorry for digging this thread up…
Pres Zount
09-11-2006, 08:21 AM
Yeah.(y)
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