So when Scarface was released

[Documad]

I never imagined that people would love that movie someday. It still blows my mind.

I thought that the new actress Michelle Pfieffer was one to watch for, but it was the end of my love for Al Pacino.

[Freebasser]

I bum that film, and not because everyone else does. I just caught it on cable one boring night and fell in love.

"It's a cream-puff!"

[Deep_Sea_Rain]

I was finally convinced to watch it....it's a good movie, no doubt. Just didn't blow me away.

[Lex Diamonds]

I'm wearing a Scarface shirt right now. It's cool. It's black and on the front it says "SCARFACE" (the logo) with a line underneath and then "THE WORLD IS YOURS". On the back it says "Be Tony Montana." They threw them into the crowd at the Notting Hill Carnival. I caught one and had to fight off loads of huge G'd up Jamaicans for it. It was awesome. (y)

[mickill]

I was going to make a thread about how overrated this movie is just yesterday, but forgot to. Great minds, man...I tell ya.

I think that most males feel like loving this movie is a requisite for owning a penis or something. I don't know any one guy that can openly admit to it having any flaws whatsoever. I think it's okay, personally. But it's also pretty cornball at times. And it could have been trimmed down by like an hour, easily.

[Documad]

Al Pacino was one of the best actors of the 1970s. He's really before my time but I fell in love with him at revival houses. He started to slip before Scarface, but I still thought he could come back if he got the right role. I used to like DePalma's films too, so I was disappointed by Scarface. But I did leave the theater saying "who's that blond actress?"

The critics hated it. I don't remember how long it took to get popular. I don't think that anyone who saw it in the original release loved it -- it grew on video. I think it's interesting when movies do that because the film company can't make that happen intentionally.

[Lex Diamonds]

I was going to make a thread about how overrated this movie is just yesterday, but forgot to. Great minds, man...I tell ya.

I think that most males feel like loving this movie is a requisite for owning a penis or something. I don't know any one guy that can openly admit to it having any flaws whatsoever. I think it's okay, personally. But it's also pretty cornball at times. And it could have been trimmed down by like an hour, easily.
I agree with you completely. I fell asleep the first time I watched it. Upon closer inspection (ie watching the whole thing), it is quite a nice movie, but not as great as all the little dickhead gangsta wannabes make out and probably not even De Palma's best.

[Bob]

i saw it when i was like a freshman in college but i don't remember finding it all that amazing. it was just kinda cool or whatever but even then, it wasn't as cool as other movies. even "say hello to my little friend" wasn't even as cool as i was expecting it to be.

i dont get it really. i think i like it less though because of the type of people who like it alot. tough guy jerkoffs mostly

[Yorkshire~Rose]

I have never seen Scarface. I could be the only person left in the world who hasn't.

[Freebasser]

What's ironic is, is that originally it was uncool to like Scarface, then it gradually got a cult following and became cool, and now it's cool to hate it again because everyone bones it.

Where will it all end?

[Lex Diamonds]

I guess I've never been cool, cuz I neither bone it nor hate it.

[Freebasser]

Oh, that's where it ended.

Good show.

[roosta]

its ok, but its definitely one of the most over rated movies of all time.

[Documad]

What's ironic is, is that originally it was uncool to like Scarface, then it gradually got a cult following and became cool, and now it's cool to hate it again because everyone bones it.

Where will it all end?
I think you're right. I had no idea that there is a backlash. I'm an original hater.

I just read an article where DePalma said he was surprised at how popular it eventually became.

[Documad]

I never saw Cruising, which was the start of the end of Pacino's career.
Then he did Author Author (where he apparently played the character based on Adrock's father) and that was just awful.
Then Scarface and beyond.

Prior to Cruising, Pacino had a nearly perfect record.

[mickill]

I still think Pacino's performance in it was quite good. But I think De Palma's kind of a hack director. And Oliver Stone is just detestable altogether. I'm not really familiar with anything De Palma did before Carrie, but what great movies has he really done? Just wondering.

[hpdrifter]

Speaking of, has anyone here ever tried cocaine? Can we talk about such things without getting banned? What do people think of it? Even those who haven't tried it, what do you think of it?

[RaZoRbLaDe KiSs]

I liked it, I'll admit it. I think that its a good story because in a way he got what everyone wants. Like Goodfella's. Everyone wants to be a Goodfella. Scarface is all about money, power and respect. Three popular themes now a days, in a way it's become the new American dream.
I personally think it's a good movie, but I have to admit it's not fantastic.

[yeahwho]

Speaking of, has anyone here ever tried cocaine? Can we talk about such things without getting banned? What do people think of it? Even those who haven't tried it, what do you think of it?

no you cannot have any of my cocaine. nice try:rolleyes:

[Documad]

I still think Pacino's performance in it was quite good. But I think De Palma's kind of a hack director. And Oliver Stone is just detestable altogether. I'm not really familiar with anything De Palma did before Carrie, but what great movies has he really done? Just wondering.
Pacino has always overacted but it got out of hand in Scarface.

I have different standards for different kinds of movies. I dislike straight dramas unless they're just amazing, but I will like a cheesy action/crime/horror movie if it was somewhat interesting and kept my attention. So, DePalma. I get DePalma's early movies mixed up. I didn't love any of them, but it's interesting to see what good actors he had in his movies when those actors were still pretty young. It bothers me how much he steals from Hitchcock -- not because it's wrong but because it distracts me.

So I loved Dressed to Kill, Blow Out, and even Body Double (and of course Carrie). Blow Out was a movie I saw ages ago with no expectations and I loved it. But I loved DePalma's wife (Nancy Allen), I really did. I liked parts of The Untouchables at the time it was released but I have a feeling it would really bug me today. I generally dislike DeNiro and DeNiro in that movie was a movie-ruiner.

I think that Oliver Stone is a horrid horrid person, but I sure loved JFK (as a movie) and his Vietnam movie (wtf is it called? with Charlie Sheen not Tom Cruise) changed the lives of some Vietnam vets so I give him a pass on a lot of his nonsense. And he's not phoning it in. I also loved that he did that cameo in Dave--best thing in the movie.

[Bob]

platoon?

[Documad]

Yes, thank you. That movie changed America -- at least my corner of it.

[yeahwho]

Al Pacino is the shouting actor nowadays. He was so good when he was calm in Dog Day Afternoon trying to resolve issues within his own defined crime, plus the Deer Hunter which is a mindblower, literally.

But those movies are much more reflective of youth and inexperience, which Pacino encapsulated so well.

Brian DePalma is a very good visual director, but his storytelling is always a distant second.

[Documad]

I recently saw a special edition DVD of Dog Day Afternoon. The special features were great. Al apparently picked out a lot of his unknown actor friends to be in the movie and they let him because he was going to turn the part down.

Everytime I hope that Pacino is going to drop his nonsense and start acting again (Sea of Love), he disappoints me.

[Drederick Tatum]

if Cribs is to be believed, black people LOVE Scarface.

[Drederick Tatum]

Al Pacino is the shouting actor nowadays. He was so good when he was calm in Dog Day Afternoon trying to resolve issues within his own defined crime, plus the Deer Hunter which is a mindblower, literally.

Pacino wasn't in the Deer Hunter.

[yeahwho]

Pacino wasn't in the Deer Hunter.

durrrrrr

I actually mixed up John Cazale with Pacino. Phuck.

Pacino yelled so much in that devil movie I thought it was a comedy.

[ericlee]

Speaking of, has anyone here ever tried cocaine? Can we talk about such things without getting banned? What do people think of it? Even those who haven't tried it, what do you think of it?

If you haven't tried it, I recommend that you don't. It's probably the greatest feeling I've ever experienced. Hence my 3 year addiction that I've acquired in the early 90's.

I'm normally a laid back guy and then I'd snort up and just start gritting my teeth and had the feeling to go out and just do shit. It didn't matter what it was but I had to do it. Anything. I wanted to climb trees, run laps, skateboard and I loved the feeling so much that I just kept on getting more and more and was pushing all my friends and family away. I couldn't keep jobs, I was even snorting in the bathroom of my old pizza delivery job that I had back then.

I'm glad that I got off the shit because I think of how I'd be if I was still snorting. Scary shit.

[Lyman Zerga]

i only watched some parts

but all i saw was guys shooting the fuck out of each other and sniffing snow all the time and music that didnt really fit to the movie

anything else happened?