PDA

View Full Version : Beastie Boys Fan Hits the Big Time


joon
10-19-2006, 04:10 PM
As some of you may or may not know, I am a writer. And here is my book. All I can say is I think you might like it. Hope you do! Please check it out
at
http://www.publishamerica.com/greetingcardpro/pickup.asp?CardSentID=169023&rID=79516

or go to publishamerica.com and search for
Bewlah T. Zew or the ISBN --> 1-4241-5649-1


It is part politics, part philosophy, little police corruption and a Buddhist Mafia.
Read on...


PublishAmerica Presents 360° by Bewlah T. Zew


Frederick, MD October 18, 2006 -- PublishAmerica is proud to present 360° by Bewlah T. Zew of Texas. 360° is the spiritual journey of Ruby Junaper Pandavas, a philosophically conflicted sniper and her best friend/yoga guru Kristoffer H. Nash. With Kris’s guidance, she faces her fears and doubts to find her true destiny in this world as a warrior in the greatest battle of all. She begins as a naive rookie cop with many doubts. Upon discovering corruption in the force, she begins working for Antonio Sorvino, a Buddhist mafia boss. RJuna goes from a strict policy of non-fatality as a rifleman through a spirited sojourn that ends with her using her gift for aim to clean house. 360° is about taking responsibility for one’s destiny in the face of serious inner tumult.

Influenced by the Bhagavad-Gita, this is a retelling of the ancient story about friendship, duty, yoga, and wisdom through realization steeped in a whirlwind plot involving corrupt cops and a Buddhist-run mafia.

Educated in philosophy and enamored by the historical implications of ancient religious texts, Bewlah T. Zew hopes to reintroduce the beauty and importance of these long-lost lessons in parables for the modern audience. Zew redesigns these stories in creative ways so that they may reach those seeking enlightenment and entertainment as well.

marsdaddy
10-19-2006, 07:35 PM
Isn't this the same publisher Bitchma used on her first book?

joon
10-20-2006, 08:45 AM
Who is that and is she famous?

na§tee
10-20-2006, 08:50 AM
:eek: bitcha is a superstar! i can't believe you haven't heard of her.

Shadrock
10-20-2006, 09:14 AM
joon, this is really good...I like the way you give it a realistic feel that people can relate to in their own lives and trials.(y)

joon
10-22-2006, 10:21 AM
joon, this is really good...I like the way you give it a realistic feel that people can relate to in their own lives and trials.(y)
Thanks for the love Shaddy. Goin' straight to the top.
C'mon everybody. lets go.

Bitchamachacha
10-22-2006, 05:24 PM
Crap....I was going to stay silent to spare your feelings, because I know right now is a very exciting time for you, but I'd rather you hear this from me than from a group of prestigious writers (like I did) and be seriously crushed. Plus making this public will hopefully help more wanna-be authors on this board NOT make the same mistake I did....


Who is that and is she famous?

No, I'm not famous.

Why? Because instead of getting a proper agent to sell my first novel to a real publishing company that would ...

A) Market and promote my book.

B) Offer a buy back policy so I could have book signings.

C) Actually pay me an advance against royalties instead of the crappy percentage they gave me.

D) Edit it properly.....

I went through PA. Uh huh...I got some great reviews, but look at that sales rank UGH!! (http://www.amazon.com/I-M-Internet-Message-Stephanie-Simpson-Woods/dp/1413702287)

Honestly, congrats on getting your book put into print. I know it's very exciting and I was shitting rainbows when PA published my book, and I'm not trying to piss all over your glory, but I (as well as many other PA authors and well-known mass market authors) have been trying to warn people for years that PA is the devil. And not just PA, but any Print-On-Demand publishing company.

Here is how they work:

They get your novel, read a few chapters, spend very little money putting it together (the book quality is horrid. You'd think they'd hire teenagers with crappy Photoshop skills to design the covers), then make YOU market it to your family and friends, giving you a shitty little percentage while they feast off your loved ones. Seriously. My book was a horror book about vampires. Now go back to the above link and look at the cover. WTF?

I was lucky to have ONE book signing because a local Walenbooks fucked up and ordered a few copies. No other bookstore would pick it up because PA doesn't have a buy back option, or---- if any bookstore orders your book from Ingram's, they cannot send it back if it doesn't sell.

To further prove this, a couple years back a bunch of people got together and wrote a very badly edited book, on purpose to see if they'd publish it. They did.

Please--- don't take this badly. It's just honest advice. If you really want to be a serious writer, get and agent. A good one. If you have what it takes, you'll find one and they will do what they do best-- find a legit publishing house to publish it.

Also, join some writers boards and groups. I did and have become friends with some very prestigious writers and have learned assloads from them.

Here are some links to help you in the future:

Perditors and Editors (http://www.invirtuo.cc/prededitors/pubwarn.htm)

Vanity Publishers (http://www.sfwa.org/beware/vanitypublishers.html)

Some Info On PA (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10211).

And if you Google Publish America, you will find more negative than positive.

Again, I hate to break this to you. When I found out I was furious and heart broken, but I'd rather you (and everyone else insterested in writing) know the crap I went through than do it again.

PA has your book for seven years now, which means you can't submit it anywhere else. Do what you can with it, but please don't spend a lot of $ marketing it and don't fall for any marketing scams either.

Now hurry up and start writing that next book for the agents. ;)

ampm
10-22-2006, 06:53 PM
I was once on Dance Party USA. So I guess I'm kind of famous.

joon
04-03-2007, 01:00 PM
Thank you for the advice however...I have not experienced the trouble you must have, because so far everything I have encountered has been fairly easy. I designed my own cover, the books came out beautifully and Ingrams does have a buy back option.
I was fortunate I suppose that everything sort of fell into place for me. I have 5 signings for the month of April. I did have to schedule them myself, but I do not mind and in the end I am saving 15-20% an agent might take. I do plan on eventually getting an agent, but right now I believe I can accomplish a great deal in order to prove to a potential agent of my willingness to work towards promotion of my book and myself.
Again, I am sorry you had such a terrible experience, but for me, while it is a learning process along the way, I cannot complain. It has been an exciting wild ride and I see nothing yet that has made me think otherwise.

And as far as getting paid an advance versus royalties, I am a new author and I think it would be ridiculous to expect a completely unknown writer to receive an advance and for certain I am proud to have even found a publisher who pays me royalties at all seeing as how some people end up vanity publishing and paying to have their book published themselves.
I never expected to start at the top and perhaps PA is not the most exclusive or top notch publisher out there, but that is ok. I am ok with the fact that I must work my way up and I am pleased to start here, because I know where I am going and it is straight to the top. Everybody's gotta start somewhere and here I am.
Thank you for the look out though, I appreciate your intentions.
Good luck!

Crap....I was going to stay silent to spare your feelings, because I know right now is a very exciting time for you, but I'd rather you hear this from me than from a group of prestigious writers (like I did) and be seriously crushed. Plus making this public will hopefully help more wanna-be authors on this board NOT make the same mistake I did....




Why? Because instead of getting a proper agent to sell my first novel to a real publishing company that would ...

A) Market and promote my book.

B) Offer a buy back policy so I could have book signings.

C) Actually pay me an advance against royalties instead of the crappy percentage they gave me.

D) Edit it properly.....


Here is how they work:

They get your novel, read a few chapters, spend very little money putting it together (the book quality is horrid. You'd think they'd hire teenagers with crappy Photoshop skills to design the covers), then make YOU market it to your family and friends, giving you a shitty little percentage while they feast off your loved ones. Seriously. My book was a horror book about vampires. Now go back to the above link and look at the cover. WTF?

I was lucky to have ONE book signing because a local Walenbooks fucked up and ordered a few copies. No other bookstore would pick it up because PA doesn't have a buy back option, or---- if any bookstore orders your book from Ingram's, they cannot send it back if it doesn't sell.

Please--- don't take this badly. It's just honest advice. If you really want to be a serious writer, get and agent. A good one. If you have what it takes, you'll find one and they will do what they do best-- find a legit publishing house to publish it.


And if you Google Publish America, you will find more negative than positive.

Again, I hate to break this to you. When I found out I was furious and heart broken, but I'd rather you (and everyone else insterested in writing) know the crap I went through than do it again.

PA has your book for seven years now, which means you can't submit it anywhere else. Do what you can with it, but please don't spend a lot of $ marketing it and don't fall for any marketing scams either.

Now hurry up and start writing that next book for the agents. ;)

ScarySquirrel
04-03-2007, 03:06 PM
He's in denial! How cute!

I just want to pinch his little cheeks!

YoungRemy
04-03-2007, 03:25 PM
He's in denial! How cute!

I just want to pinch his little cheeks!


her cheeks...

congrats joon!

joon
04-04-2007, 05:17 PM
He's in denial! How cute!

I just want to pinch his little cheeks!
#1 Thanks Remy! Much love.

#2 You know its funny how much it really hits home, especially here or ironically here, where I always expect to find love from people that there are people here who just want to be shitty or stupid. But let me tell you, because perhaps no one has taught you--is it Scary Squirrel?

Life is what you make it. If some one wants to write a book and give up because it is too hard or they have to keep pushing or working afterward--not saying that is what the person who responded did--but that is a CHOICE. But if I believe in myself and I write a kick ass book and I recognize the work has just begun and I believe in myself and my product and I am willing to take it a step further no one, not a smart ass rodent or a defeatist can hold me back.
I feel sorry for people like the scary squirt who have nothing to contribute to someone they don't even know-other than some stupid sarcastic remark when it is just as easy maybe easier to show love and support. BUt again, this is a choice. Let me know how being negative works out for you, I am going to be over here kicking serious ass with no time to take names.
Its okay, I am not stranger to people trying to be smart to me with little remarks but when you have a brilliance shining from you from years of meditation and prayers and hard work it takes more than a pathetic negative nelly to bring you down. I appreciate you though, you only make my resolve stronger. So Thanks!!!!
We make our lives, not the other way around and I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't take that responsibility seriously. Denial comes from not facing life head on. My mind has never been clearer. I wish you the best, but I am not going to give up on my dreams because someone else thinks it is too hard. Already I have proven myself beyond this persons complaints, so just think how far I can go. Life is not easy, I would not want it to be, I like the challenge, so bring it on.

Good luck squirt, you are gonna need it. Good day.
love,
joon

Pres Zount
04-04-2007, 05:26 PM
I think you would get more love if you weren't so detached from reality and up yourself.

GreenEarthAl
04-04-2007, 05:35 PM
I concur with a lot of what joon has said. I also published my books myself POD. I also designed my own covers. I also lined up my own book signings and just sold them on consignment rather than even dealing with sell/buyback. I also think an advance would be nice but wouldn't expect one.

Each edition of my books are a little closer to being well edited, but sadly, they're not all that close to professionally copy edited. Most of the people who've read them seem to still get through them fine. If a person feels like publishing the exact book they feel like publishing and don't feel like having twenty different publishing houses reject it and then the 21st publisher hack it all up and change it into a different book and release your book to (OMG STILL crapy sales) then POD is really useful. If I wanna hawk wares out of my mobile bookstore (backpack) then it's all good in the hood. I still wrote a fan-fucking-tastic book that has changed a few lives and provoked a few thoughts.

If you ever want to write a book about how agents often end up taking your money for nothin and include a big vitriolic treatise on how publishing companies are a bunch of aristocratic fascists, you'll want to remember POD for your publishing needs.

Teh
04-04-2007, 05:40 PM
#1 Thanks Remy! Much love.

#2 You know its funny how much it really hits home, especially here or ironically here, where I always expect to find love from people that there are people here who just want to be shitty or stupid. But let me tell you, because perhaps no one has taught you--is it Scary Squirrel?

Life is what you make it. If some one wants to write a book and give up because it is too hard or they have to keep pushing or working afterward--not saying that is what the person who responded did--but that is a CHOICE. But if I believe in myself and I write a kick ass book and I recognize the work has just begun and I believe in myself and my product and I am willing to take it a step further no one, not a smart ass rodent or a defeatist can hold me back.
I feel sorry for people like the scary squirt who have nothing to contribute to someone they don't even know-other than some stupid sarcastic remark when it is just as easy maybe easier to show love and support. BUt again, this is a choice. Let me know how being negative works out for you, I am going to be over here kicking serious ass with no time to take names.
Its okay, I am not stranger to people trying to be smart to me with little remarks but when you have a brilliance shining from you from years of meditation and prayers and hard work it takes more than a pathetic negative nelly to bring you down. I appreciate you though, you only make my resolve stronger. So Thanks!!!!
We make our lives, not the other way around and I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't take that responsibility seriously. Denial comes from not facing life head on. My mind has never been clearer. I wish you the best, but I am not going to give up on my dreams because someone else thinks it is too hard. Already I have proven myself beyond this persons complaints, so just think how far I can go. Life is not easy, I would not want it to be, I like the challenge, so bring it on.

Good luck squirt, you are gonna need it. Good day.
love,
joon

Despite what people have said, i don't think you can argue with this yo.

Good work joon for being so determined :D

/arselicking

:p

Edit: I suppose i could've said something more productive and thoughtful, but i'm not in the mood and i thought it was nice that she wasn't put off by the general sarcastic undertone of this board. Anyways...

joon
04-11-2007, 04:21 PM
What a surprise. Prez Zount comes in to be negative and insulting. Wow. I can hardly believe it.
#1. I don't need love from here or you. I am extremely supported and cared for by many friends and family. It is because of them that I can come in here and face petty bullshit insults from ignorant assholes and walk away feeling unscathed by their insecure diatribes.
#2. What reality of mine are YOU challenging? Would you prefer that people just sit back and absorb negativity such as the crap you spew? I bet you would like that wouldn't you? For sure it would give you the sense of security you so crave in knowing you would have endless opportunities to influence the masses with your misplaced anger and feeble attempts to be clever.
Let me know how that works out for you--again.
You are obviously not southern and from what I can tell you have no manners so allow me to share an old saying my grandmother taught me--If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.
I know you just want to seem "cool" with your jabs and alecky comments. But why don't you save it for people who are interested in your dedication to ignorance and negativity.

My reality is what I create. And I would really appreciate it if you could learn some self control and quit trying to pervade upon my communications so that you can feel like an electronic version of a man.
Have a wonderful day.
I think you would get more love if you weren't so detached from reality and up yourself.

joon
04-11-2007, 04:29 PM
I thank you so very much. Please allow me to apologize for Pres Zount. He is bitter about a lesson taught to him last year. He as others too, rather than finding a path for themselves or making the most of their lives prefer to come in and shit on others. It is a lazy way out of bettering yourself.
I feel great sorrow in my heart for those who receive joy only at the cost of being negative. Their lives will never be complete and the worst is that they will never experience the kind of joy that humans are capable of when they open up and love and support their communities.
For this is the greatest joy. I feel terrible that anyone cannot get this. But if it makes people feel better to make snide comments, I'd prefer it be to me, I have broad shoulders and would prefer to bear the negativity as opposed to a more sensitive friend.
Nothing will prevent me from fulfilling my fate and actually it is the naysayers who give me the most strength. They make me want it even more.
So thanks!!
Much peace and love.
j

Despite what people have said, i don't think you can argue with this yo.

Good work joon for being so determined :D

/arselicking

:p

Edit: I suppose i could've said something more productive and thoughtful, but i'm not in the mood and i thought it was nice that she wasn't put off by the general sarcastic undertone of this board. Anyways...

SugarInTheRaw
04-11-2007, 05:36 PM
I feel great sorrow in my heart for those who receive joy only at the cost of being negative. Their lives will never be complete and the worst is that they will never experience the kind of joy that humans are capable of when they open up and love and support their communities.


That is so well said.

Congrats, joon.

Parkey
04-11-2007, 05:40 PM
When did this place turn into the 'Little Book Of Inspiration'?

befsquire
04-11-2007, 10:40 PM
first, congratulations on realizing a goal. everyone should try to achieve what they want out of life, and like you said, you shouldn't stop because of what anyone else says. and i do truly mean this.

BUT

why do you think you should automatically be "entitled to love" here? and don't say you don't expect it, because you typed it earlier that you expect to find that here, and your last response didn't seem to acknowledge what you said previously.

no one here really knows you, and you post a somewhat obnoxious thread that just begs to be ridiculed, ON THE INTERENT, and you just think it should all be positive? we aren't your family and we don't have to blow smoke up your ass to make you feel good. i have no idea whether your book is good or whether it's shit. the general premise sounds cheesy to me, and like a remix of many other books i've read, but i'm not passing judgment because it could be good for all i know. but i'm never going to know, because it doesn't grab me enough to want to buy it. this is the truth. i'm sure you'll give me your line about enjoying my negativity, but it's not really negative, it's my opinion. your book is not what i'm into. it's also my opinion that you haven't hit the big time. when your name is recognizable, then you've hit the big time.

so, take a step back and try to look at this thread from the standpoint of someone who doesn't know who you are, and maybe you'll see where some of the posters are coming from.

and for real, you need to toughen up, because you could get far worse from a true critic than you would here, were your book somewhat more marketable and thus in the public eye to be critiqued.

zorra_chiflada
04-11-2007, 10:43 PM
negativity rocks!

befsquire
04-11-2007, 10:50 PM
zorra, don't be a negative nelly. be a positive polly!

and don't slam the negative nelly part. it was a direct quote from a writer who hit the big time!

Pres Zount
04-12-2007, 05:01 AM
beth that was very good.

joon
04-12-2007, 11:23 AM
I don't think I am entitled to love.
I guess I just thought obviously incorrectly that since the Beastie Boys inspired in me love, gratitude, compassion and positive energy that is what i would find here. I was wrong. Obviously.
And you are right, no one here does know me. When I said I hit it big, if you knew me, you would have realized that that was me having fun and perhaps trying to encourage others to have fun too. But you don't know me.
And I realize that expectations are the seeds of disappointment and I take full responsibility for the disappointment I feel seeing that some people assume the worst of you and deflect their inner insecurities upon you and use that as an excuse to speak to you like you are nothing. I just choose to expect the best in others not the worst.
But I can see I handled this all wrong. You see I came here to spread joy and love and my first mistake was posting at all, because sure enough if that is why you are here there is a lesson to be learned in that someone will come in and make assumptions of your intentions and attack you for no reason.
Why? Because they can.
What I should have done in the beginning is just send you love. Yes, love because you animosity towards someone you don't know begs for love and that is what I give you all.
You don't have to like my book, I am not sure you would even understand it, so it is best that you don't read it. You do not have to like or understand me, not sure if you could. That is ok. BUt just know this, I love you all.
Only love can quell such anger and angst, and you are all obviously drawn to me because you need love and I have it. I am glad to be of service to you. So, continue sending me your negativity and I will take it home and meditate on in until it is appreciative joy and then I will bring it back to you. I am happy to be that for you. It is in the vow.
I am just sorry I did not think of this before. SO i thank you for giving me this opportunity to meditate on compassion, I would not be here without you.
Peace to you.
much love too
joon
first, congratulations on realizing a goal. everyone should try to achieve what they want out of life, and like you said, you shouldn't stop because of what anyone else says. and i do truly mean this.

BUT

why do you think you should automatically be "entitled to love" here? and don't say you don't expect it, because you typed it earlier that you expect to find that here, and your last response didn't seem to acknowledge what you said previously.


no one here really knows you, and you post a somewhat obnoxious thread that just begs to be ridiculed, ON THE INTERENT, and you just think it should all be positive? we aren't your family and we don't have to blow smoke up your ass to make you feel good. i have no idea whether your book is good or whether it's shit. the general premise sounds cheesy to me, and like a remix of many other books i've read, but i'm not passing judgment because it could be good for all i know. but i'm never going to know, because it doesn't grab me enough to want to buy it. this is the truth. i'm sure you'll give me your line about enjoying my negativity, but it's not really negative, it's my opinion. your book is not what i'm into. it's also my opinion that you haven't hit the big time. when your name is recognizable, then you've hit the big time.

so, take a step back and try to look at this thread from the standpoint of someone who doesn't know who you are, and maybe you'll see where some of the posters are coming from.

and for real, you need to toughen up, because you could get far worse from a true critic than you would here, were your book somewhat more marketable and thus in the public eye to be critiqued.

DIGI
04-12-2007, 11:36 AM
BUt just know this, I love you all.
Only love can quell such anger and angst, and you are all obviously drawn to me because you need love and I have it.

I beg to differ. The only thing that will quell my anger is you getting the fuck out of here with your hippie flavored, god complex bullshit. I hope the tree you hug falls on you.

Parkey
04-12-2007, 11:48 AM
I don't think I am entitled to love.
I guess I just thought obviously incorrectly that since the Beastie Boys inspired in me love, gratitude, compassion and positive energy that is what i would find here. I was wrong. Obviously.
And you are right, no one here does know me. When I said I hit it big, if you knew me, you would have realized that that was me having fun and perhaps trying to encourage others to have fun too. But you don't know me.
And I realize that expectations are the seeds of disappointment and I take full responsibility for the disappointment I feel seeing that some people assume the worst of you and deflect their inner insecurities upon you and use that as an excuse to speak to you like you are nothing. I just choose to expect the best in others not the worst.
But I can see I handled this all wrong. You see I came here to spread joy and love and my first mistake was posting at all, because sure enough if that is why you are here there is a lesson to be learned in that someone will come in and make assumptions of your intentions and attack you for no reason.
Why? Because they can.
What I should have done in the beginning is just send you love. Yes, love because you animosity towards someone you don't know begs for love and that is what I give you all.
You don't have to like my book, I am not sure you would even understand it, so it is best that you don't read it. You do not have to like or understand me, not sure if you could. That is ok. BUt just know this, I love you all.
Only love can quell such anger and angst, and you are all obviously drawn to me because you need love and I have it. I am glad to be of service to you. So, continue sending me your negativity and I will take it home and meditate on in until it is appreciative joy and then I will bring it back to you. I am happy to be that for you. It is in the vow.
I am just sorry I did not think of this before. SO i thank you for giving me this opportunity to meditate on compassion, I would not be here without you.
Peace to you.
much love too
joon

I hope your book isn't this dull...

zorra_chiflada
04-12-2007, 05:08 PM
it's funny that joon is all about peace and shit, when i had to end up putting her on ignore for continually sending me threatening PMs.

SugarInTheRaw
04-12-2007, 05:28 PM
it's funny that joon is all about peace and shit, when i had to end up putting her on ignore for continually sending me threatening PMs.

why would someone threaten you? you're cute.

zorra_chiflada
04-12-2007, 05:31 PM
well i'm a pissy bitch that likes picking fights with people as well

SugarInTheRaw
04-12-2007, 05:33 PM
well i'm a pissy bitch that likes picking fights with people as well

Either way, I think you're cute. You must be one of those pretty, pissy bitches. Not that I think you're a bitch. I'll shut up now. :o

befsquire
04-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Yes, love because you animosity towards someone you don't know begs for love and that is what I give you all.

...

You do not have to like or understand me, not sure if you could. That is ok.
there was nothing in my post that could be construed as animosity toward you (though my later post was sarcastic, but come on, negative nelly from a writer?). further, there's nothing which is indicative of like or dislike of you. again, i don't know you. i'll form an opinion after you become a regular poster, because that's when you can start to see what a poster's personality is like.

i was merely pointing out that just as we don't know you, you don't know us, and so you can't know what anyone intended.

joon
04-16-2007, 02:01 PM
You know I could admire some one who is so full of them selves that they think they are clever when they are really just petulant, but to straight up lie that is just pathetic and pitiful.
You never ever had any cause to put me on ignore. What a fantastic imagination you have. I suppose just being a bully wasn't enough for you, you have to resort to telling lies and victimizing yourself. How sad for you zorra.
How very sad.
When in reality it is you, who continually comes to threads I am in to talk shit and threaten and pretend to be clever. Honestly I am flattered albeit a bit freaked out with your obsession with me. After all it is you who constantly seek me out just to say something ugly to. It is you and your wanna be wolf pack who come to where I am to attack me or something I said.
It is cute, really, and I am honored that you see in me something that shakes you to the core of yourself so that you cannot pass by without trying to piss on it.
I just wonder what I did to deserve such attention from you. Since you don't know me in the slightest I don't take it personally. Because everyone knows the psychological basis for such bullying is a deep seated sense of insecurity. When you add telling lies to malign someone's character in order to make your self feel better then you reek of desperation.
Fortunately for me, I can step back and look and know that you are just a sad little scared whatever who from what I can see has made no accomplishments of her own therefore is driven to try to destroy others with a poor attempt at insults.
Really it is quite hilarious to any intellectual adult how you play with words and find your strength is the most futile degrading endeavors.
Please keep coming back to me, I find strength in you to be a better person. But don't lie. It is unbecoming. If you truly believe you are right to criticize me then don't disgrace your stance by lying and saying that I ever threatened you or that I ever sent you more than the one PM I published on the boards for everyone to see. I am embarrassed for you that you cannot come up with a better strategy than that. If you think you are superior to me, then fight with me on my level. Not on the fourth grade level of lies and insults.
Tell me--what have you done with your life? I know you won't answer that question, but I have done alot. I have learned to overcome my anger and cleverness so that immature liars such as yourself do not get to me. If you have proof of a threat I ever made to you, please share it with everyone, I have nothing to hide.
And by the way, I would really love to meet you all in person so that we could see if you have the nuts to say this shit to my face. It would never happen, because you think you are safe behind the wall of your computer screen, you think that just because you can say anything that you should, when you grow up some day you will realize the error in this way of thinking. And when or IF this happens, I will be right there beside you congratulating you and wishing you the best.
As I always have.
Good day,
j
PS Just so you know, every comment after this that you make to me will prove my point about you being obsessed with me. Thank you in advance.
I love you guys.


it's funny that joon is all about peace and shit, when i had to end up putting her on ignore for continually sending me threatening PMs.

joon
04-16-2007, 02:09 PM
:p

joon
04-16-2007, 02:21 PM
I beg to differ. The only thing that will quell my anger is you getting the fuck out of here with your hippie flavored, god complex bullshit. I hope the tree you hug falls on you.

Question:
Why do I have to get the fuck out of here. I was here first. If you don't like my tree hugging sandal wearing patchouli smelling bullshit, why are YOU here? There are like hmm, a gabillion threads in a katrillion websites, boards, pages in the internet, WHY ON EARTH DO YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO BE IN THIS ONE?
Please if someone could answer this for me I would be grateful.
Why did you come here? Is it because you think you own the internet and you get to police all that goes on and if it doesn't fit in with your nihilistic egocentric negative agenda that it should not be allowed? Who the fuck do you all think you are. Simple enough--if you don't like what I have to say, then don't come to where I post. But it isn't that is it? I mean that is so simple. Either you feel threatened or envious of me or else you would just not click on these threads.
I never EVER initiate any of you in conversation. It is you that come to me.
Again, I am so flattered to have such an effect on people who don't even know me. I mean wow, I must really be something to elicit such emotions from those who have never met me.
What have you to gain by me getting 'the fuck' out of here? Who would you criticize? Who would you use to cut your sarcastic teeth upon? Who would you have to try to use to make yourselves feel better about not feeling better about yourselves.

Please just answer me
Out of all the zillions of threads that could be visited, why do you all continue to return to me, just to insult? Seriously, why? I mean what a waste of your time. I don't mind because every second you waste typing your stupidity towards me is a time you are leaving someone else alone. In that I find solace.
But either you secretly love me or in the least you are obsessed, maybe with me or possibly with some trivial pursuit of winning the crown of most aliented. Every time you post insult to me, I laugh at the power I hold over you. It is quite empowering to know you touched so many nerves in people you've never met.
Thanks, I mean it is not the kind of energy I prefer, but I will accept it graciously.
Have a wonderful day.

zorra_chiflada
04-16-2007, 08:07 PM
haha joon is so fucking full of herself.

Mr Films
04-16-2007, 08:36 PM
I work at Kinko's and the other day a woman came in to get her manuscript printed and bound and when I was ringing her up, she just launches into this self involved monologue about how she wrote a book and publish america was putting it out.

She was like "hey, check out the cover they made for me" and it was on her shirt. I dunno if this is something PA does or if she was so exicted, she had a shirt made but the whole time all I could think of is what Bitcha had said about Publish America.

Justin
04-16-2007, 08:59 PM
This thread has some good material! Let's publish a book and be famous together!

Documad
04-16-2007, 09:09 PM
My great aunt Mary paid to publish her own book and it really went to her head. She was a big freak. Her book had something to do with our family having superior genes. My grandma (her little sister) was always embarrassed of her. My grandma was good people. <3

The Notorious LOL
04-16-2007, 09:31 PM
*fart*

joon
04-18-2007, 02:14 PM
To everyone,
I would like to say one final thing. I think you might all enjoy it.
Concerning this thread, I started it one day when I was feeling jaunty and to be perfectly honest with you I had totally forgotten about it. Until people started responding, some good some just to be rude. The funny part is just like in life, where I know there is good and bad, it seems the good nice people are brief but the snipers like to stick around. Like pirhanna they smell blood and like to swoop in for the kill. Then what ever is left the hyenas of the scavenger pack come in to leave no waste.
I cannot control who or how people respond but I would like to point out some crucial facts about such activity.

Hate is not the opposite of Love, Apathy is. In essence if haters really hated the people they attacked they would not seek them out but consistently turn away from them. If you really hate someone you shun them not attack them. Attacking someone is a sign of either feeling scared or envy. Which both belie a control the victim has over you.

Secondly, this is the part you’ll love, is that if it had not been for your constant posts negative or not, this thread would have died. So, in a way, you helped keep my name in the front for a while. Ergo, you must love me to do me such a favor or you are not as smart as you think you are.
You had to know what you were doing. Didn’t you. They say there is no such thing as bad press. I guess that might be so. Because I am not sure how else in such a short time we could have all defined our characters which such little interaction. There is no better way for me to hone my skills of compassion than the crash course you all give here. And you were kind enough to do it in such a public forum. I applaud you. You live you learn.

But again, thank you for keeping it alive. I honestly would have never come back if it weren’t for you.
You help the cause more than you know probably. I champion you for that. Great job.
j

joon
04-18-2007, 02:30 PM
However, I laugh at the title of thread, unless you were making fun of yourself for hitting "the big time." I haven't noticed you posting around here until this thread so it feels like spam to me. You want to share with people your book, that's cool, but not like this, you are bound to have people sling some shit. If you have been posting here for a long time then you should've known that. Who knows, maybe you did?


It is funny to me how everyone has an opinion to what it means to hit it big time.
So let me clarify. In MY life what you think doesn't matter one bit. No offense but I have yet to see anyone who has tried to define success to ME on THIER terms that comes with some argument about how THEY have succeeded.
Secondly, this title WAS A EFFORT AT FUN. If you see more than that you might ask yourselves through what filter you look at my words. Some times perceptions (especially about people we don't know) say more about what is going on inside OURSELVES. So if you all felt threatened or offended at my carefree fun expression you might wonder to yourselves WHY? Why does it bother me that this person is happy to have done something? What have I done to merit the right to define success for SOMEONE I DON'T KNOW?
I mean goodness gracious, you might need to clean your own back yard before you come telling me how dirty mine is. What a load you all have taken on yourselves to be the success police, you must be so busy keeping everyone else in check.
So here is a suggestion, maybe you should worry about checking your head and leave mine to me.
I don't know, just saying.
Build a bridge and get over the need to tell me what is wrong with me. I know I am not perfect. I would just think your time would be better spent working on you.
Not that I dont appreciate you all trying to keep me in check. Hey, thanks.
But wow, i mean really who do you think you are. ANd what have you done that I should listen to you.

But to be totally clear.
I hit it big time every day my father is alive.
He was diagnosed four years ago with terminal cancer.
So each day he is still here to be my ever weakening hero, I hit the big time.
I am lucky to have three jobs to bitch about. I hit it big to be born in a country no matter how fucked up politically that I as a woman can have 3 jobs to bitch about.
I am fortunate that after working 3 jobs I have the energy or gumption to voluteer as much as I do and strive towards compassion.
I could be starving in Africa, but I am not.
My family is full of more blessings than most people deserve in that is like winning a million lotteries.
There is much more in my life which I consider way bigger than publishing a book, or 11 books or more. But that was just cool to me. I have wanted to write forever. And in the midst of life which is chaos, I managed to realize one tiny dream of mine. Yeah, I dont expect it to be big to you. THat is cool. But you know, I dig it. It is something else in life besides the struggle. |
I urge you all to find something else too. Life is short too short to create MORE struggle out of boredom.
Much love.

joon
04-18-2007, 02:37 PM
haha joon is so fucking full of herself.
Thank you for proving my point. You are like a finely tuned instrument. In my part of the country we'd say played like a fiddle.
You are nothing if not consistent. You cannot let go. I am flattered. Keep it coming Zorra.
Keep seeking me out.
I will be waiting patiently for the inevitable.
;)

Parkey
04-18-2007, 02:40 PM
I pray you had someone edit your book for punctuation. It is quite terrible.

Pres Zount
04-18-2007, 04:43 PM
But to be totally clear.
I hit it big time every day my father is alive.
He was diagnosed four years ago with terminal cancer.


Who cares? You type too much, go write abook or something. A decent one this time.

Much Love. :)

zorra_chiflada
04-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Thank you for proving my point. You are like a finely tuned instrument. In my part of the country we'd say played like a fiddle.
You are nothing if not consistent. You cannot let go. I am flattered. Keep it coming Zorra.
Keep seeking me out.
I will be waiting patiently for the inevitable.
;)

hey, my mother has cancer too. are you gonna go all faithbanks on me and say that it's my negativity that caused it? that would be just great.

Documad
04-18-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm confused. Are we supposed to know who joon is?


Joon: The title of the thread is "hits THE big time" -- not "hit IT big time." Hitting THE big time has to mean some kind of notoriety. It's too bad that the title wasn't a self-effacing joke. That would have been cool. Congratulations on writing something that you're proud of, but you seem full of angst. You don't seem to have found the inner peace you're talking about.