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D_Raay
11-03-2006, 12:18 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6112338.stm
The leader of the 30-million-member National Association of Evangelicals in the US has resigned after being accused of paying for sex with a man.
Rev Ted Haggard said he also decided to temporarily step aside as head of his 14,000-strong New Life Church while his colleagues investigated the claims.
Rev Haggard, who is known as a vocal opponent of same-sex marriages, denies the accusations.
The claims were made by a man during a radio show in Denver, Colorado.
In a statement to the New Life Church, Rev Haggard said he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations was ".
"I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity," he said.
Not mentioned in this article was Mr. Jones also said that the pastor would frequently use meth to enhance their sexual encounters, and that the pastor is a frequent advisor to Karl Rove and Bush.
Don't you just love election season?
QueenAdrock
11-03-2006, 12:45 AM
Interesting how it likes to work out that the anti-homosexuals often have problems with their 'straightness'.
Qdrop
11-03-2006, 03:31 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536263/
what a fuckin joke of a person.
fuckin christians...
QueenAdrock
11-03-2006, 03:43 PM
You know what's funny about this whole situation?
His resigning at the same time this came out, but stating that it somehow isn't correlated to the whole scandal. I LOVE when they say that. Well...I didn't have sex with that man when on meth. On a completely unrelated note, BYE!
Pres Zount
11-03-2006, 04:05 PM
I feel almost sorry for him.
yeahwho
11-03-2006, 04:14 PM
I wait and wait and wait for the day when one of these guys gets busted for having "outside the same species" sex. Just once let one of these holier than thou guys get busted with a goat. Then we'll have a day of it! You b,b,b,bet we will.
EN[i]GMA
11-03-2006, 04:16 PM
Here's Haggerd vs. Dawkins: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE
Just an interesting view into what the guy is really like.
He's a deeply repellent figure. I mean...the smirk. Ghastly.
Mega-churches are scary. Seriously.
DroppinScience
11-03-2006, 06:01 PM
Not only did he pay for sex from a male prostitute, but he even bought some meth off of him, too!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html
After Mark Foley's lurid IM messages, I didn't think they could top themselves. Good job, evangelicals/GOP. I'll never underestimate your ability to be corrupt and repulsive simultaneously! (y)
Echewta
11-03-2006, 07:04 PM
When you hold the moral bar so high...
everyone involved in politics is a cunt
cosmo105
11-03-2006, 07:15 PM
GMA']Here's Haggerd vs. Dawkins: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE
Just an interesting view into what the guy is really like.
He's a deeply repellent figure. I mean...the smirk. Ghastly.
Mega-churches are scary. Seriously.
haha. awesome video. pwn3d.
Schmeltz
11-03-2006, 07:21 PM
Wow - this is almost like when Kerry said the troops were all evil!
everyone involved in politics is a cunt
http://www.break.com/index/ron_kind_campaign_ad.html
further evidence. this is apparently not fake.
kaiser soze
11-04-2006, 01:12 AM
this reminds me of that Ween song..."Put the coke on my dick"
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=af1bbeba-0abe-421a-01e2-01ca2e4711bd&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
D_Raay
11-04-2006, 02:46 AM
GMA']Here's Haggerd vs. Dawkins: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gmNjfpoRZpE
Just an interesting view into what the guy is really like.
He's a deeply repellent figure. I mean...the smirk. Ghastly.
Mega-churches are scary. Seriously.
Almost makes you wish there were another PLANET to move to watching this.
You know, something about the man's mouth... I can't put my finger on it...I suspect he has spent some time putting something in it.
FunkyHiFi
11-04-2006, 04:46 AM
Haggard in the above video: "I don't know anything about the Nuremburg rallies" WTF?? He doesn't know? If he's serious, THAT is scary right there.
FunkyHiFi
11-04-2006, 04:47 AM
Speaking of people with lots of P.A. speakers and loud music..........
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.William Butler Yeats
kaiser soze
11-04-2006, 10:40 AM
If you send me $1,000 I won't tell your wife! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=W6rSjrBhUIA&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gFP_fbn1Zmo&mode=related&search=
hehehe
ShotgunBoy
11-04-2006, 12:41 PM
hmm...sounds like a big piece o' gay crap to me!:p
Pres Zount
11-05-2006, 07:21 AM
no, no, no. He didn't have the gay sex. He just bought some meth and paid for a massage. But he never actually had the gay sex. THANK GOD. Oh imagine! If he had had gay sex rather than just buy some meth and pay for a massage?!
And he didn't actually use the meth! He threw it out! PHEW. I can forgive buying meth, but gays sex and using meth?! That's eternal damnation, right there.
Tone Capone
11-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Even as a (non-practicing) Christian, I find this HILARIOUS!!! :D (y) (y)
DroppinScience
11-05-2006, 03:45 PM
Ok, now he admits to a lifelong sexual problem and that he's a deceiver and a liar.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/05/haggard.allegations/index.html
How far they fall...
Documad
11-05-2006, 03:56 PM
no, no, no. He didn't have the gay sex. He just bought some meth and paid for a massage. But he never actually had the gay sex. THANK GOD. Oh imagine! If he had had gay sex rather than just buy some meth and pay for a massage?!
And he didn't actually use the meth! He threw it out! PHEW. I can forgive buying meth, but gays sex and using meth?! That's eternal damnation, right there.
It's the classic scenario. They admit only what they know you can prove and then they find out there's an audiotape and they admit to a little more, and then they find out you have a letter they wrote and they admit a little more, and gradually they've painted themselves into a corner so that they're left with the most implausable story.
The conservative christianist technique is apparently to end with an apology and then go into treatment. I applaud treatment (for drug and alcohol abuse -- not gay sex obviously) but I suspect that for these guys it's just an excuse to avoid the media for a few weeks.
QueenAdrock
11-05-2006, 05:20 PM
Ok, now he admits to a lifelong sexual problem and that he's a deceiver and a liar.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/05/haggard.allegations/index.html
How far they fall...
Whoa, whoa, wait. You're trying to tell me that he actually IS guilty of gay sex, even though he had said previously that he had nothing to hide? GOD! I shoulda known! :mad:
kaiser soze
11-05-2006, 06:18 PM
This guy met with bush monthly but no word....maybe a subpoena will be in place this time?
I won't hold my breath
An investigation will need to be conducted to see if this hypopcrite used money from his congregation/tax write-off's to get high and tap a bit o' ass.
ms.peachy
11-05-2006, 10:31 PM
I feel almost sorry for him.
In a weird way, I kind of do. To hate yourself so much, it must be... a hard way to live. To not be able to just be gay and get on with your life and be happy, but instead to be so convinced that this part of who you are is sinful and evil and that you have to work so hard against it, to utterly demonise it. It's kind of sad.
The whole meth bit though, well that's just... well, whatever. Nutter.
yeahwho
11-05-2006, 11:01 PM
Ted Haggard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard) spent an enormous amount of his time and energy working to make sure gays would be treated as second class citizens while he himself led a double life. The basic Dharmic Religion beliefs of Hinduism and Buddhism would of served him well if he could of been big enough to focus on true spiritualism.
He will never admit his suffering to bad karma. It's a satan doing this.
I've been having a hard time with these morons the past 6 years, they've fucked up enough peoples lives is the way I feel. His Lord has and will sort this out.
D_Raay
11-06-2006, 04:09 AM
In a weird way, I kind of do. To hate yourself so much, it must be... a hard way to live. To not be able to just be gay and get on with your life and be happy, but instead to be so convinced that this part of who you are is sinful and evil and that you have to work so hard against it, to utterly demonise it. It's kind of sad.
The whole meth bit though, well that's just... well, whatever. Nutter.
Found myself thinking that this morning as well. Almost feel guilty I am the one who posted this...
no, no, no. He didn't have the gay sex. He just bought some meth and paid for a massage. But he never actually had the gay sex. THANK GOD. Oh imagine! If he had had gay sex rather than just buy some meth and pay for a massage?!
And he didn't actually use the meth! He threw it out! PHEW. I can forgive buying meth, but gays sex and using meth?! That's eternal damnation, right there. Didn't someone else (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/12/98/review_of_98/themes/208715.stm) try to use both (http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/news_didntinhale.html)of those lines?
Haha, he sure DID "know what you did last night"... first hand!
I love it when hypocrites get nailed, it's alwas so, so RIGHT!
yeahwho
11-06-2006, 08:00 PM
Didn't someone else (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/12/98/review_of_98/themes/208715.stm) try to use both (http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/news_didntinhale.html)of those lines?
Haha, he sure DID "know what you did last night"... first hand!
I love it when hypocrites get nailed, it's alwas so, so RIGHT!
Right On! The call of the Lord intermingling with politics always leads to one thing, hypocrisy. Mix them and one kills progress while the other kills spiritualism.
I long for the days of the United States of America, where a man or woman can be who they want to be and we fight for that freedom.
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