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b i o n i c
11-20-2006, 12:45 PM
He bugged the fuck (http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1772645) out


i was tempted to call this thread, 'cosmo is a racist'

Nivvie
11-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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Bummer

venusvenus123
11-20-2006, 01:16 PM
yeah me too.

b i o n i c
11-20-2006, 01:18 PM
try it again, that shit is ridiculous.

read the story (http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2006/11/20/no_kavorka_here.php) in the meantime:

November 20, 2006
No Kavorka Here: Kramer Goes Unhinged

This is almost as uncomfortable as a scenario from Curb Your Enthusiasm! TMZ.com has footage of Michael Richards, aka the actor who played Cosmo Kramer, going crazy at two black audience members who were heckling him at a comedy club.

Nivvie
11-20-2006, 01:21 PM
I like the bit about how most of the audience left.
What did the few who were left do? Did he continue his act just to them? How weird would that be!

b i o n i c
11-20-2006, 01:23 PM
dude, he really sounded like he forgot to take his medication. its kind of shocking, not just because of his choice of words

Whatitis
11-20-2006, 01:24 PM
KKKramer.


What an idiot!

venusvenus123
11-20-2006, 01:27 PM
:(

DandyFop
11-20-2006, 01:45 PM
Holy shit....that's crazy! But you could always tell he was unstable...I'm not talking about his performance on Seinfeld, but in the behind the scenes shit they always talked about how crazy serious he was and he never really hung out with them outside of the show. When you watch outtakes, if it's someone messing up besides him, sometimes he looks like he's going to fucking choke them. It's kinda creepy...I can't even watch this whole clip because it's so uncomfortable like you said.

QueenAdrock
11-20-2006, 02:13 PM
JESUS CHRIST! He's gone waaaay down in my book. I feel ashamed for saying Kramer was my favorite character in Seinfeld now.

Well, I shouldn't, the character was funny. Richards, however, is officially a fucking douchebag.(n)

cj hood
11-20-2006, 02:24 PM
i do stand up on a regular.....you gotta either quickly address the heckler or ignore them all together.....if they were that bad, they should of been kicked out........not that what Richards did was right.....

yeahwho
11-20-2006, 03:03 PM
He had best move out of LA, he's going to get his ass kicked. Just by association Seinfeld & Co. will become known as that honky show. I am fucking amazed at how stupid he really must be. Jerry Seinfeld is on Letterman (http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/) tonight, I don't think Dave will be able to let this slip by.

Sounds like the worst stand up act ever, probably go down in Guiness. If I owned the Laugh Factory I'd be pissed....legal action will pursue I'm sure.

b i o n i c
11-20-2006, 03:09 PM
i dont think this is really an issue of racism, its more an issue of MR's mental health. i think he must really have mental problems, no joke

beastieangel01
11-20-2006, 03:22 PM
damn (!)

yeahwho
11-20-2006, 03:24 PM
i dont think this is really an issue of racism, its more an issue of MR's mental health. i think he must really have mental problems, no joke
Perhaps, he may be on the brink of some mental problems for sure, especially now that he's been seen blurting out lynchings and racial slurs on the www. The man is supposed to be the consumate pro, he's made millions doing comedy, he's 57 years old and should have some sort of maturity and wisdom. If all of this time has gone by and he is not relaxed enough in his own skin to accept the stage and all of it's pitfalls...well somebody has lied to him about his skills or just accepted him as a racist, along with his mental problems. He did go onstage the following night without incident according to the local paper.

Planetary
11-20-2006, 03:26 PM
i really want to see this clip.

Justin
11-20-2006, 03:26 PM
how far was this into his performance? To be fair, we didnt hear what the 2 black people were sayin before the video actually started..

If they were calling him a cracker/motherfucker before that, they had to know that they were gonna get a lashing from him.



I wanna watch seinfield now

Waus
11-20-2006, 03:28 PM
i dont think this is really an issue of racism, its more an issue of MR's mental health. i think he must really have mental problems, no joke

Yeah, I think that's really at the heart of the issue. There were some rumors about him being weird after Seinfeld ended...this kind of confirms some of the things floating around.

Sad to see a comic talent troubled like that. Totally inappropriate outbreak.

Planetary
11-20-2006, 03:29 PM
To be fair, we didnt hear what the 2 black people were sayin before the video actually started.

nothing justifies racism, especially in this form.

b i o n i c
11-20-2006, 03:33 PM
sure there are justifications, like mental illness

cosmo105
11-20-2006, 04:16 PM
yikes.

i remember seeing a thing about once when he was on that SNL ripoff "Fridays" with Andy Kaufman, and Andy did that famous refusal to speak his lines, and just sat there (such a performer)...and Richards finally got up and grabbed the cue cards and threw them on the table in front of him. meep!

cmute, shut up.

DroppinScience
11-20-2006, 05:04 PM
If you guys want to see the clip, go to cnn.com. It's currently #3 on the most popular videos there.

There's a cell phone video of him doing his thing and it's very very shocking. I couldn't believe what I saw.

The context of the whole situation is that a couple of black guys kept saying that he wasn't funny, so Richards just exploded on them.

Hecklers are hecklers and are more than fair game for the comic to put them in their place, but to actually say "50 years ago we'd have hung you and stuck a fork up your ass," call a spade a spade guys. That's downright racist and it was upsetting to see.

I loved Kramer lots on Seinfeld, and I even was a big fan of Michael Richards in "UHF" ("who wants to drink from the fire hose?!?!"), but I can't look at his performances the same way ever again. :(

DroppinScience
11-20-2006, 05:06 PM
Also what's notable is that he did two performances in two nights at the Laugh Factory.

The next night, he offered no explanation and outright refused to defend/explain/apologize for his behavior.

CJM
11-20-2006, 07:01 PM
"The was uncalled for you fucking cracker-ass motherfucker."

that some funny shit.

cj hood
11-20-2006, 07:05 PM
jerry's on Letterman tonite......he calls out Richards and Richards comes out and apoligizes........

QueenAdrock
11-20-2006, 07:19 PM
I loved Kramer lots on Seinfeld, and I even was a big fan of Michael Richards in "UHF" ("who wants to drink from the fire hose?!?!"), but I can't look at his performances the same way ever again. :(

UHF! Holy crap for a minute I was forgetting about that, only remembered Seinfeld and Problem Child.

Oh man, all my childhood memories are now being spoiled. Just like when PeeWee was arrested for that movie theater thing. :(

dirtydan11
11-20-2006, 07:50 PM
i was just gunna start this thread. oh well. check out how clever i am anyways...
Krazy Kosmo Kramer (KKK) he he he . but seriously fuck him.. his career is finished. and your right Seinfeld is now the honky show. i always thought that show was kinda weird in how they portayed chinese and other nationalities. one of the smartest shows ever, arguably, but really really white, especially for taking place in NY. we haven't heard the last of this, folks

Randetica
11-20-2006, 10:45 PM
wtf is up with the actors over there? first it was cool to grow a long ass beard and now it's the new trend to make racist comments and then whine about it for the next 2 months

QueenAdrock
11-20-2006, 11:29 PM
one of the smartest shows ever, arguably, but really really white, especially for taking place in NY.

Well, it was a Jewish show. So yeah, white, but also minority in that aspect.

DroppinScience
11-20-2006, 11:35 PM
Well, it was a Jewish show. So yeah, white, but also minority in that aspect.

Pffft... ethnic whites. That's so early 20th century. ;)

DandyFop
11-21-2006, 12:02 AM
Seinfeld will always be just as funny to me... I found it weird he was even still doing stand up and shit.

Documad
11-21-2006, 12:03 AM
I can't understand what drives comedians. If I had made that Seinfeld money, I'd be vacationing for the rest of my life. No way would I be doing stand up. That has to be the hardest job in the world.

I watched that Seinfeld movie where he started doing a new standup act. Why would he do that to himself?

It's unfair that this breakdown will be attached to the Seinfeld show even though it's a completely different thing. Richards needs to go to Mel Gibson's treatment facility.

QueenAdrock
11-21-2006, 12:04 AM
Yeah, but that's all he has I suppose.

Like when the guy started yelling "You don't have movies, you have no shows, all you had was Seinfeld!" I was thinking, "Ohh shit. It's true."

b i o n i c
11-21-2006, 12:09 AM
this deserves its own thread but

its interesting how michael richards "deserves a chance" (says jerry seinfeld on letterman tonight) when he talks about 'niggers' but jerry his sympathizers would puke on mel gibson for talking about 'kikes'. michael richards wasnt even drunk.


personally, i could care less about either one of their personal opinions .. id still watch seinfeld and buy a ticket to apocalypto.

Documad
11-21-2006, 12:20 AM
I agree that people should be mad at Richards if they were mad at Gibson.

Did Seinfeld speak out against Gibson? It doesn't seem like his style. It's Rob Sneider's style though. :p

I agree that Richards had nothing except Seinfeld. But Seinfeld was a lot. If I had 1/10th of his Seinfeld money, I'd be on a big boat someplace warm right now. I don't understand why people crave attention I guess. I'd take my money and run away.

Drederick Tatum
11-21-2006, 04:00 AM
whoooaaa, that was crazy go nuts crazy.

George was always my favourite anyway.

ggirlballa
11-21-2006, 04:07 AM
wow kramer, thats fucked up

Praying Mantis
11-21-2006, 08:16 AM
Cmon, how we forget...Kramer was basically the star of the Problem Child Movie. the Bowtie killer.

ericlee
11-21-2006, 08:26 AM
And of course, now he's apologizing (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/NEWS99/61121003/1038/ENT03)
I can't get the video to work but I read the article. It says the camera started rolling during his outburst but, it doesn't show what the hecklers did.

I'm very curious to know what started this in the first place.

brooklyndust
11-21-2006, 08:33 AM
I was very shocked to hear about this.

lost all respect for the man.

do you think he is going to pull a mell and check in to rehab for a couple of months till it cools down?

venusvenus123
11-21-2006, 08:43 AM
And of course, now he's apologizing (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/NEWS99/61121003/1038/ENT03)
I can't get the video to work but I read the article. It says the camera started rolling during his outburst but, it doesn't show what the hecklers did.

I'm very curious to know what started this in the first place.
it's true. i mean they could have been saying loads of anti-semitic stuff. not that two wrongs make a right boys and girls. i think he has anger management issues. and perhaps he was drunk. he seemed it to me.


and this comment, printed below the article you posted rings quite true:
So what's the take-home message here from Mr. Rodriguez? His opinion seems to reflect the inherent double standard in our society when it comes to the word "N199ER". The word is pervasive in rap music and a mainstay with black comedians, however once a white person uses the word they become a criminal. I'm more offended by the double standard than Mr. Richards use of the word.
this does really piss me off. not that i want to use the word at ALL. it's just so fucking bizarre that it's OK for a certain section of society to say it, but it's practically a criminal offence for anyone else to let it pass their lips.

Knuckles
11-21-2006, 08:48 AM
Cmon, how we forget...Kramer was basically the star of the Problem Child Movie. the Bowtie killer.
Stanley Spadowski? (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098546/)

cj hood
11-21-2006, 10:04 AM
I can't understand what drives comedians. If I had made that Seinfeld money, I'd be vacationing for the rest of my life. No way would I be doing stand up. That has to be the hardest job in the world.

I watched that Seinfeld movie where he started doing a new standup act. Why would he do that to himself?

It's unfair that this breakdown will be attached to the Seinfeld show even though it's a completely different thing. Richards needs to go to Mel Gibson's treatment facility.

same reason why oj is doin his thing.....cuz fame's a drug.....once you have it....you never wanna lose that 'high'.....

hpdrifter
11-21-2006, 11:43 AM
I think for me it was the line about "Hanging upside down with a fucking fork up your ass" that is seriously disturbing. That is a horrifying image, and the fact that it only took him a couple of seconds to go that far shows how aggressively angry he was. Over what? A heckler?

That guy is fucked up.

saz
11-21-2006, 12:53 PM
its interesting how michael richards "deserves a chance" (says jerry seinfeld on letterman tonight) when he talks about 'niggers' but jerry his sympathizers would puke on mel gibson for talking about 'kikes'. michael richards wasnt even drunk.

i think it's probably because mel gibson has a bad history and richards doesn't, ie gibson's anti-gay rants and his anti-semite father, the portrayal of jews in 'passion of the christ' et al

b i o n i c
11-21-2006, 01:04 PM
he's got a right to not be "pro-gay" i don't think he did any 'bashing', his dad's opinion is his dad's opinion, and that movie was not anti-semetic.

QueenAdrock
11-21-2006, 01:24 PM
Stanley Spadowski? (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098546/)

Stanley was UHF. He's talking about the Bowtie Killer in Problem Child. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/ff/PC7.jpg/300px-PC7.jpg)

Smiley Pies! I haven't had a Smiley Pie in years!

dirtydan11
11-21-2006, 03:56 PM
Yeah, but that's all he has I suppose.

Like when the guy started yelling "You don't have movies, you have no shows, all you had was Seinfeld!" I was thinking, "Ohh shit. It's true."

whats true is he made $250,000 EVERY episode. times that by how many episodes they made. That guy kinda burnt himself there. its like he yelled, "You have no movies, you have no shows, all you had was one of the greatest sitcoms of all time" hehe. Seinfeld made one million dollars every episode and the others were bitching they only made 250,000 every episode. i remember that in the news. i had no idea actors made so much per episode. crazy! crazy like KKK Krazy Kosmo Kramer

what i found the craziest is how he was yelling.. it was like his chaacter from the show.. like thats how he really is.. they just took some KKK hillbilly and gave him his lines and told him to just be yourself lol

ScarySquirrel
11-21-2006, 04:32 PM
I just wanted to point out that a better title topic for this thread is "Ku Klux Kramer."

Yes, I stole that.

ET
11-21-2006, 04:42 PM
Ahahaha! I like that. That's what happens when you interrupt the white man.

Did he get provoked though? The video is kind of cut up. I haven't heard about any racial comments being slung at Klu Klux Kramer so far.

b i o n i c
11-21-2006, 04:52 PM
im pretty sure the dudes in the crowd were calling him a cracker.


ok, so what if it was the other way around?

what if this was at the apollo and some black comedian was doing a bit and a few white dudes interupted him (just pretend they wouldnt get their asses kicked). lets say the black comedian told the "cracka honkeys" to shut up and if the hecklers responded by calling him a "nigger".

what would the outcome of that be? just a question... i wonder

saz
11-21-2006, 05:26 PM
he's got a right to not be "pro-gay" i don't think he did any 'bashing', his dad's opinion is his dad's opinion, and that movie was not anti-semetic.

he's got the right to be not 'pro-gay', however his past remarks concerning gays were really stupid. it's debatable whether it was an anti-semetic film, but the portrayal of jews in the passion of the christ wasn't the greatest either. regardless, i hear you though about richards and he needs to do more than apologize.

'cracker' or 'honkey' don't have the historical impact, and they're not extreme or vulgar terms, i think they sound goofy. i personally wouldn't be offended if i was called either of those, but i'd be concerned if someone called for the eradication of all white people or whatever.

faz
11-21-2006, 06:12 PM
Here's his apology on letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dufHYw-W6j4).

I don't get a lot of peoples comments about "what if it was a black comedian calling a white heckler a cracker or honky". It wasn't his use of THE word that shocked me but the comment that they would be hung from a tree with a fork up their ass.

b i o n i c
11-21-2006, 06:24 PM
well, yeah.

i just hate double standards

DroppinScience
11-21-2006, 06:37 PM
well, yeah.

i just hate double standards

But wait for double standards to occur. I haven't heard of a black comedian going insane and calling them racial epithets because a few white guys heckled him.

b i o n i c
11-21-2006, 06:39 PM
But wait for double standards to occur. I haven't heard of a black comedian going insane and calling them racial epithets because a few white guys heckled him.


im too lazy to debate this, but these two are not completely incongruous.

M.C. Guevera
11-21-2006, 06:58 PM
I finally saw the video on YouTube. Yeah, it was fucked up. I didn't know that he just started yelling at them.

And some of the comments I've read on YouTube make me lose faith in humanity.

hpdrifter
11-21-2006, 07:02 PM
Here's his apology on letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dufHYw-W6j4).

I don't get a lot of peoples comments about "what if it was a black comedian calling a white heckler a cracker or honky". It wasn't his use of the word that shocked me but the comments that they would be hung from a tree with a fork up their ass.

Agreed, see my post.

AtoD
11-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Words are just words and anger brings out things we shouldn't say and regret saying. Shit happens and all anyone can do is apologize. I'm over it.

Randetica
11-21-2006, 11:47 PM
just saw it

oh well he is human, shit happens

it's not like ill never watch a seinfeld episode again but ill have a weird feeling when i see him from now on, more weirdish than before

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 07:10 AM
What the hell made you think it was okay to name a thread that???!!!:confused:


What he did was disgusting... so is the title of your thread.(!)

mikizee
11-22-2006, 07:18 AM
i took it as a joke, he was trying to be offensive to be funny, and it just backfired. i think its been blown out of proportion.

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 07:22 AM
i took it as a joke, he was trying to be offensive to be funny, and it just backfired. i think its been blown out of proportion.

Yelling that at a person is NOT a joke. That dude was lucky he didn't get his ass beat...:mad:

ET
11-22-2006, 07:24 AM
I'm sorry but I think it's funny. I have a lot of black friends too. This is like saying Mr. T is a wetback.

*avoids tomatoes*

Edit: I meant the title of the thread. And I think he would have gotten shot instead of beat. Or wait, maybe both.

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 07:30 AM
I'm sorry but I think it's funny. I have a lot of black friends too. This is like saying Mr. T is a wetback.

*avoids tomatoes*

Edit: I meant the title of the thread. And I think he would have gotten shot instead of beat. Or wait, maybe both.

It's not funny in the least bit. He was yelling that repeatedly at a Black audience member... how the FUCK is that funny unless you are in the klan????

Ally Al
11-22-2006, 07:38 AM
What the hell made you think it was okay to name a thread that???!!!:confused:


What he did was disgusting... so is the title of your thread.(!)



i'd have to agree with Tone, this incident was outrageous, and the thread title ? wtf!

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 09:11 AM
Words are just words and anger brings out things we shouldn't say and regret saying. Shit happens and all anyone can do is apologize. I'm over it.

and

the title of this thread is completely appropriate. kiss my ass, crakka!~ ;)

ericlee
11-22-2006, 09:38 AM
I watched his apology and I think he's serious about it. He even looks and sounds shattered and he should.

Although it's still unclear of what set the situation off. This is the part that I'd like to know but thanks for the media, they've only caught his outrage.

The guy's pushing 60 so maybe he's reaching that time in life where it gets harder to cope with things and being on stage at that age is something I don't want to imagine due to tension. He could have been more professional about it but I look at this as an adrenaline fight or flight situation where it's easy to lose control.

If he can't control himself then he should not do standup for sure and start working on that "personal work".

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 10:23 AM
I think he IS very sorry, and that's how he SHOULD feel!
Saying sorry doesn't feed the bulldog though!!!



PS. Bionic there is no way that I believe that you are so STUPID as to think this is an acceptable name for the thread...

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 10:26 AM
ever heard john lennon's song, 'woman is the nigger of the world'?

of course i think its appropriate, thats why i named it that

you're kidding, right? wigga, please!

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 10:30 AM
ever heard john lennon's song, 'woman is the nigger of the world'?

of course i think its appropriate, thats why i named it that

you're kidding, right? wigga, please!

Who the fuck do you think you are?????? I bet you wouldn't talk like that in person...

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 10:36 AM
or what? you'd hit me? lol. i thought you were bigger than that. that kind of attitude is much more offensive than a dumb word. ever heard of sarcasm or satire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire)?


or maybe you were just quoting another john lennon song? i guess you've not heard the other song i referred to above


a superstar, well right you are

Tone Capone
11-22-2006, 11:02 AM
or what? you'd hit me? lol. i thought you were bigger than that. that kind of attitude is much more offensive than a dumb word. ever heard of sarcasm or satire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire)?


or maybe you were just quoting another john lennon song? i guess you've not heard the other song i referred to above


a superstar, well right you are

What I'm saying is that I don't think you would have the balls to say that to me in person... there isn't any ~or what?~ to it. I was wrong to believe you weren't stupid I guess... idiot.

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 11:05 AM
if there's no "or what" then why would i not speak my mind? of course i would.

i dont think any of what im saying is registering with you, so believe what you want about me. im sorry that my word(s) offend you so.

love,
spic

venusvenus123
11-22-2006, 11:20 AM
What the hell made you think it was okay to name a thread that???!!!:confused:


What he did was disgusting... so is the title of your thread.(!)
can you explain why it is disgusting? i mean the title. is it simply because he uses the word nigger?

roosta
11-22-2006, 12:03 PM
Surely the title should have been Michael Richards is a cracker-ass motherfucker?

cj hood
11-22-2006, 12:05 PM
everybody's sayin it.....everybody's sprayin it.......put it on a scale...cuz everybody's weighin' it!

Ally Al
11-22-2006, 01:05 PM
Surely the title should have been Michael Richards is a cracker-ass motherfucker?


now that makes sense

ET
11-22-2006, 01:27 PM
It's not funny in the least bit. He was yelling that repeatedly at a Black audience member... how the FUCK is that funny unless you are in the klan????

Thread title. Not video. Okay, well maybe the video. It's Kramer calling a black man a nigger. That's just fucking bizarre! I'll admit it's one of the worst things to say to someone who's black in that context.

I don't use it in that context and I hear it on an almost daily basis. Except when black people do stupid shit like commit idiotic and desperate crimes as a most recent example... and this comes from other black people. And they think it's funny. Are they riding with the Klan too?

I feel I can joke about these things with people of all kinds of races and I do very often IRL because it's understood how I and my other friends feel. This sounds like a sensitive topic to you so that's all I'll say on the subject.

tpk
11-22-2006, 01:43 PM
edited the thread title after getting complaint after complaint. i'm not going through each post though to change the Re: Title, part. this whole story about the kramer dude is of such interesting nature that i chose not to delete the thread. if people still can't stand the previous thread title then speak up or something.

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 01:47 PM
wow. people need to freak out about more important things, freaks!

well, thats that i guess.




edit: i take that back. i mean thanks for doing your job, and i know you're only responding to people's requests (and perhaps you agree) but seriously people's ignorance should not hinder my freedom of speech. i know kramer's publicist was behind this...

afronaut
11-22-2006, 01:56 PM
This is sad, what Kramer said was unacceptable. I thought he seemed sincere in his apology though. But still, sheesh. Wtf.

However, as for this thread. In this context, if the name of this thread is inappropriate, then so is every single rap song that has the N word in it about 50 times. Yeah yeah, I realize it's "your" word, and you've somehow turned it into some kind of term of endearment, but only when you say it. And I respect that, I would never ever say the N word. But if you're gonna cry about this thread title then you're a goddamned pussy assed crybaby.

Is the last poets "wake up niggers" unacceptable and inappropriate too? Give me a break, buddy.

This is all in defense of this threads former title, not of Michael Richards disgusting comments.

Mr Films
11-22-2006, 01:58 PM
the best part of the whole video is when a woman off camera goes "oh my god"

i don't know why that shit is funny.

Rock
11-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Problem Child 3...UHF...Seinfeld....how come nobody mentioned his kick ass part in Murphy Brown?

He done fucked up. I'm sure he regrets it, but why....i'm not sure. maybe career suicide regrets, maybe flipping out regret, maybe his racism is out regret. Either way. He still was pretty good, pretty, pretty good on Seinfeld.

was he in that adam sandler movie when they take over the rocknroll radio station?

Rock
11-22-2006, 02:00 PM
the best part of the whole video is when a woman off camera goes "oh my god"

i don't know why that shit is funny.
yeah....i'd have to agree with that.

Mr Films
11-22-2006, 02:00 PM
the apology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5eZqtb1hZw)

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 02:02 PM
it would be great if everyone who complained about the thread title via pm to tpk just did so in this thread... cowardly crakkas..

Mr Films
11-22-2006, 02:02 PM
shit, I posted that link to the apology before watching the whole thing.

it's more uncomfortable than the event.

venusvenus123
11-22-2006, 02:05 PM
edited the thread title after getting complaint after complaint. i'm not going through each post though to change the Re: Title, part. this whole story about the kramer dude is of such interesting nature that i chose not to delete the thread. if people still can't stand the previous thread title then speak up or something.
why don't you delete the "dead baby" thread while you're at it?

QueenAdrock
11-22-2006, 02:05 PM
was he in that adam sandler movie when they take over the rocknroll radio station?

Airheads! Yes! He was the guy who was caught in the vents and kept trying to contact the policemen outside. He also had small parts in other movies like Coneheads and stuff.

ericlee
11-22-2006, 02:06 PM
This is sad, what Kramer said was unacceptable. I thought he seemed sincere in his apology though. But still, sheesh. Wtf.

However, as for this thread. In this context, if the name of this thread is inappropriate, then so is every single rap song that has the N word in it about 50 times. Yeah yeah, I realize it's "your" word, and you've somehow turned it into some kind of term of endearment, but only when you say it. And I respect that, I would never ever say the N word. But if you're gonna cry about this thread title then you're a goddamned pussy assed crybaby.

Is the last poets "wake up niggers" unacceptable and inappropriate too? Give me a break, buddy.

This is all in defense of this threads former title, not of Michael Richards disgusting comments.

Yeah exactly and almost in every dictionary, there's at least 3 definitions for the word and not all of them are based on the race of a person. It's not like all of the definitions are stating that it refers to a black guy.

I think bionic was using the word as in Michael Richards is scum or a shithead. That's the way I read it at least.

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 02:08 PM
when i made the thread title it was sort of like, "look at the pot calling the kettle black" kind of thing.

or look at the honkey shouting out the crakka, whichever

cj hood
11-22-2006, 02:13 PM
edited the thread title after getting complaint after complaint. i'm not going through each post though to change the Re: Title, part. this whole story about the kramer dude is of such interesting nature that i chose not to delete the thread. if people still can't stand the previous thread title then speak up or something.


i was more offended that 'michael' was spelled wrong.....

Whatitis
11-22-2006, 02:27 PM
:mad:

(n)

dirtydan11
11-22-2006, 04:26 PM
maybe there are acceptable times to use the word, but when you are mad at a black person and for no apperant reason call him n***** and tell him 50 years ago he would have been hung and tortured for heckling.. that should be obvious to anyone not racist that it is not acceptable and doesnt even make sense. he got heckled by a couple guys and went on a 2:47 minute race rage.


shame

Ally Al
11-22-2006, 05:34 PM
when i made the thread title it was sort of like, "look at the pot calling the kettle black" kind of thing.

or look at the honkey shouting out the crakka, whichever


what ?

michael richards isn't black

Pres Zount
11-22-2006, 06:12 PM
Maybe not on your TV, but on mine, Kramer and George are both black.

Justin
11-22-2006, 06:25 PM
as they say in hollywood...

"Any publicity is GOOD publicity"

b i o n i c
11-22-2006, 06:27 PM
like they say everywhere else, "this is definately an exception"

Documad
11-22-2006, 11:00 PM
I don't get a lot of peoples comments about "what if it was a black comedian calling a white heckler a cracker or honky". It wasn't his use of THE word that shocked me but the comment that they would be hung from a tree with a fork up their ass.
Exactly. The lynching comparison is so much worse than a word. When you add the lynching to the word, it's impossible to just shrug this off.

Lyman Zerga
11-23-2006, 01:23 AM
how can a word thats so overused these days still be so powerful?

i didnt give a flying fuck about the thread title

big deal..

venusvenus123
11-23-2006, 04:20 AM
does it mean that i can't sing along to my jay-z album without censoring myself? :confused:

tpk
11-24-2006, 06:02 PM
why don't you delete the "dead baby" thread while you're at it?i'm not at it really

venusvenus123
11-24-2006, 06:08 PM
i'm not at it really
whatever.

b i o n i c
11-24-2006, 06:32 PM
i think it would be more productive for people to discuss things openly than secretly PMing a moderator and asking for something to be censored

P of R
11-24-2006, 06:40 PM
Political correctness is overrated.

Bob
11-24-2006, 10:26 PM
Political correctness is overrated.

good to hear!

http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/?ef5f4a35c2e0f6250bf64401b87eeef1

NOT SAFE FOR WORK for the same reasons the thread title was changed

venusvenus123
11-25-2006, 05:30 AM
i think it would be more productive for people to discuss things openly than secretly PMing a moderator and asking for something to be censored
i think it would be helpful if this place was moderated by adults.

b i o n i c
11-25-2006, 01:29 PM
the mods have to respond to the 'audience' here, it would be better if people didnt go to them for things like this and just spoke up

Documad
11-25-2006, 10:58 PM
The admins are policing the site for the Beastie Boys, not the board members. I think it's appropriate to PM an admin and say "have you noticed . . . ." so that they can decide whether it's something the Beasties want on their site.

Knuckles
11-25-2006, 11:01 PM
The admins are policing the site for the Beastie Boys, not the board members. I think it's appropriate to PM an admin and say "have you noticed . . . ." so that they can decide whether it's something the Beasties want on their site.
Yeah, I often forget that this site has something to do with those guys.

Bob
11-25-2006, 11:08 PM
Yeah, I often forget that this site has something to do with those guys.

they don't really read the board though

speaking of things which the beasties won't see here's this again because i don't think anyone clicked it the last time i posted it

http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/?ef5f4a35c2e0f6250bf64401b87eeef1

(still not safe for work or kids yet pretty well put together)

faz
11-26-2006, 12:57 AM
An interview with the "targets" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATWTKhmNWBU)

yeahwho
11-26-2006, 01:53 AM
Seem like a couple of regular guys out with friends for a Saturday night, that Avon lady sounds like a total fucking nutcase, I think Richards should take them up on that stupid challenge.

BTW that ytmnd is funny shit.