Between Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique

[FatCatDaddies]

Between Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique I remember the Beasties were going to release a CD with DefJam, but it never made it. Does anyone know if there's any possible way to get those unreleased tracks? It's a shame if they go unheard, I bet they were some dope jams...
Gooze
FCD
one nation under a groove

[ggirlballa]

one nation under a groove

title for the next album(y)

[kleptomaniac]

title for the next album(y)

good, but already taken. =/

[camo]

Between Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique I remember the Beasties were going to release a CD with DefJam, but it never made it. Does anyone know if there's any possible way to get those unreleased tracks? It's a shame if they go unheard, I bet they were some dope jams...
Gooze
FCD
one nation under a groove

You mean the 'WhiteCastle' myth...

[TongueRabbit]

I wonder how many songs Russell Simmons and Chuck D completed before scrapping that project. I wonder where those songs are now. In some basement?

[Junker]

Or in a silo?? Who knows....

[KENNY GUIDO]

the album was going to be called was going to contain unreleased tracks and remixes. it was going to be called "THE WHITE HOUSE". Chuck jumped ship because he saw how serious the beasties were with thier music once Paul's was released.

The lawsuit the beasties launched in retaliation might have been the thing that canceled the project as well.

[camo]

the album was going to be called was going to contain unreleased tracks and remixes. it was going to be called "THE WHITE HOUSE". Chuck jumped ship because he saw how serious the beasties were with thier music once Paul's was released.

The lawsuit the beasties launched in retaliation might have been the thing that canceled the project as well.

ha ha I hastily wrote white castle this morning!

[the9thbeastie]

Between Licensed to Ill and Paul's Boutique I remember the Beasties were going to release a CD with DefJam, but it never made it. Does anyone know if there's any possible way to get those unreleased tracks? It's a shame if they go unheard, I bet they were some dope jams...
Gooze
FCD
one nation under a groove

If you take a look at this URL :http://www.beastiemania.com/misc/3313.php
You can read the piece Dan LeRoy put together about it over at beastiemania.com
"It's a story that has circulated for years: the time is the summer of 1989, the place is the New York headquarters of Def Jam, and the characters are Russell Simmons and Public Enemy's Chuck D, who have just finished listening to an advance copy of the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique, and are staring at each other in amazement, minds throughly blown. The Beasties' old boss, whom the band was still battling in court at the time, is forced to admit that his one-time proteges have achieved the impossible, and created a sophomore album even more groundbreaking than their first. And Chuck D, whose group had replaced the Beasties as Def Jam's biggest stars, is forced to agree.

One can certainly understand why a Beastie Boys fan would savor this tale of devoured crow. But according to at least one of the particulars, it most likely never occurred.

"I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember anything like that at all," says Chuck D. "And I'm pretty clear on everything that I'm involved with."

Which is not to say that Public Enemy's frontman was unimpressed the first time he heard Paul's Boutique. "I do remember being knocked out, listening to it on my own," he says. "Because I knew it was an unbelievable amount of work."

In the album's dense layers of samples, Chuck adds, he heard echoes of the sound he and the Bomb Squad (including producers Hank Shocklee and Eric "Vietnam" Sadler) had pioneered on the first two Public Enemy albums, 1987's Yo! Bum Rush the Show and It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, released the following year. "Myself and Hank and Eric, we were kind of precursors of that whole particular mosh pit style of sampling," says Chuck, "so we knew how much work had gone into it."

In fact, Chuck was one of the few high-profile rappers to publicly endorse the Beasties during this tumultuous era. After signing with Capitol, Ad-Rock, MCA and Mike D were viewed as traitors by more than a few in the hip-hop community. However, Chuck says, "I didn't judge the record by the label. I judged it by the digging, and the quality of the work."

Was there a Beasties boycott during the release of Paul's Boutique by hip-hop stars loyal to Simmons and Def Jam? Chuck has his doubts. "Remember, that record was released on Capitol, so a lot of the concentration was in L.A. and outwards from there. On the East Coast," he adds with a laugh, "I think it was well above and beyond most of their heads."

For those that don't know Dan LeRoy wrote an amazing book about Paul's Boutique for the 33 1/3 series.

[KENNY GUIDO]

I still have the article with chunks of info about the canceled album. I have to scan it for all to see.

[laurie_hammy]

I never heard of this cancelled album ?

Dam, it'd be so good to hear all the shit that was never released.

[peterwhite]

There was a record recorded for the Def Jam label. It was going to be called "White House".
In the movie "Pump Up The Volume" with Christian Slater. you can hear a clip of one of the songs. Don't buy the soundtrack it is not on it.

peace

[Junker]

^^ Thanks. But I suggest you to read the previous posts. :rolleyes:

[KENNY GUIDO]

^^ Thanks. But I suggest you to read the previous posts. :rolleyes:


LMAO!!! newbies!!:p

[kleptomaniac]

LMAO!!! newbies!!:p

it's the neeeeewb styyyyyle..... (!)

m'kay that was lame. sorry! =P

[Supertouch87]

Wasnt "Desperado" going to be the 1st song off the record?

Funny how the Beasties straight ditched Def Jam when it looks like DJ hadnt actually been made aware of it, like they were still planning The White House record when the Beasties had already done PB.

[KENNY GUIDO]

Wasnt "Desperado" going to be the 1st song off the record?

Funny how the Beasties straight ditched Def Jam when it looks like DJ hadnt actually been made aware of it, like they were still planning The White House record when the Beasties had already done PB.


I subscribed to the Def Jam newsletter "ON THE RUSH TIP" and it gave you tons of info on upcoming projects. one was the upcoming movie "tougher than leather" in which they described containing "a redone" beastie track. They said they messed around with "scenario", which was previously unrelased due to uncleared samples and they created "desperado". thats why the 2 songs sound alike.

[Kaptain Nemo]

If you take a look at this URL :http://www.beastiemania.com/misc/3313.php
You can read the piece Dan LeRoy put together about it over at beastiemania.com
"It's a story that has circulated for years: the time is the summer of 1989, the place is the New York headquarters of Def Jam, and the characters are Russell Simmons and Public Enemy's Chuck D, who have just finished listening to an advance copy of the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique, and are staring at each other in amazement, minds throughly blown. The Beasties' old boss, whom the band was still battling in court at the time, is forced to admit that his one-time proteges have achieved the impossible, and created a sophomore album even more groundbreaking than their first. And Chuck D, whose group had replaced the Beasties as Def Jam's biggest stars, is forced to agree.

One can certainly understand why a Beastie Boys fan would savor this tale of devoured crow. But according to at least one of the particulars, it most likely never occurred.

"I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember anything like that at all," says Chuck D. "And I'm pretty clear on everything that I'm involved with."

Which is not to say that Public Enemy's frontman was unimpressed the first time he heard Paul's Boutique. "I do remember being knocked out, listening to it on my own," he says. "Because I knew it was an unbelievable amount of work."


I read an interview with Chuck at the time, I think it was in SPIN, and he flat out recounts that same story almost verbatim. He said that he was working on "the White House" album because he thought the Beasties were turning their back on hip-hop, and once he heard "Paul's Boutique" he pulled out.

[KENNY GUIDO]

I read an interview with Chuck at the time, I think it was in SPIN, and he flat out recounts that same story almost verbatim. He said that he was working on "the White House" album because he thought the Beasties were turning their back on hip-hop, and once he heard "Paul's Boutique" he pulled out.

yup.....was the cover with terrance trent darby on it?