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The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 01:20 PM
I always felt that Last Crusade was very so much betta than Raiders or Temple of Doom....but the heart scene in Temple of Doom was one of the greatest moments in cinematic history.

paul jones
12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
I've only seen the first one all the way through though the 3 x DVD set is under £20 now so maybe soon

DipDipDive
12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
I always felt that Last Crusade was very so much betta than Raiders or Temple of Doom....

HAHAHAHA :o

And I agree. CHOON-YA!

DandyFop
12-16-2006, 01:26 PM
I have always felt a connection with Temple of Doom because that's the one I saw a billion times when I was a kid. I didn't watch the Last Crusade till fairly recently and I remember laughing at it because it was so ridiculous (not that Temple of Doom isn't). Meh.

beastieangel01
12-16-2006, 01:37 PM
that Last Crusade is the best of the best of the best

damn it.

The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 01:40 PM
my brother started screaming and crying when he saw the heart scene in Temple of Doom...he was like 8 when it came out though.


KALI-MAAAAAA! KALI-MAAAAAAAAA! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO! BALEEJAHADO!

na§tee
12-16-2006, 01:44 PM
INDY, COVER YOUR HEART!

The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 01:44 PM
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DipDipDive
12-16-2006, 01:54 PM
I thought the chant was HO-MUM-SHEE-BUB!!!

:confused:

What the hell am I thinking of? Maybe that sacrifice scene in Young Sherlock Holmes...

DandyFop
12-16-2006, 02:01 PM
KALIMAAA SHAKTEDAYYY

and DDD you're right there's also HUMNUMSHEEBA HUMNUMSHEEBA

i have no idea what your bf is on about

Freebasser
12-16-2006, 02:01 PM
In terms of computer games, definitely The Last Crusade.

I haven't seen the films in so long that I get them all confused, so I'll say The Last Crusade again, just to be consistent.

The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 02:06 PM
he pretty clearly says BALEEJAHADO about 30,000 times as he rips out dudes heart.




HUMNUMSHEEBA are the initial "pre-heart rip out" chants

Freebasser
12-16-2006, 02:09 PM
stfu ;) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q7uHaGDueY)

The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 02:11 PM
I bet I cant watch that at work.



no I sure cant ;)

Freebasser
12-16-2006, 02:13 PM
The rent on that cave must be fucking extraordinary. It's got a sauna and everything.

QueenAdrock
12-16-2006, 02:20 PM
NO TIME FOR LOVE, DOCTA JONES!

This is tough. You know, I haven't seen Raiders of the Lost Ark all the way through since I was like, 7. I really need to see it again. My fav is probbbably Last Crusade because I remember ever since I was little I loved the very end of it and the little puzzle things he had to do and I was like OMG INDIE UR SO SMRT <3

The Notorious LOL
12-16-2006, 02:23 PM
if those movies taught me anything, its that archaeologists are total pimps

Pres Zount
12-16-2006, 03:56 PM
Last Crusade for sure. If only to see the tank go over the cliff time and time again.

abcdefz
12-16-2006, 04:28 PM
Raiders is far and away the best of the three. Temple of Doom is a pretty shrill, mean-spirited piece of crap; Last Crusade had too much campy crap going on.

Raiders, though -- stone classic movie. (y)

DroppinScience
12-16-2006, 05:19 PM
Dude, it's Raiders!

Last Crusade is just a Raiders retread livened up with the presence of Sean Connery.

Temple of Doom is its own brand of awesome.

This should've been a poll.

Documad
12-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Thank goodness for a-z. Raiders is one of the best movies ever. It was one of those movies where if you were old enough to see it in a theater when it came out, you knew that it was going to change movies.

The other two suck and have always sucked. The faux Raiders movie Romancing the Stone was better than the other two.

Auton
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
^heeeeeeeeell nooooo. the romancing the stone movies are one-star crapfests. ewww. those are two of the worst movies ever made.




ugh *shivers*

saz
12-16-2006, 06:40 PM
^agreed. all three indiana jones movies are great.

Tzar
12-16-2006, 09:45 PM
they all got their selling points. i'd have to say raiders though.

it's like, one action scene after another and another and another. (y)

QueenAdrock
12-16-2006, 11:01 PM
Dude, it's Raiders!
pls to bring to america thaaaanks

I don't even remember if I saw Raiders all the way through, either. It's been such a long time.

sam i am
12-17-2006, 12:08 AM
Raiders by a landslide.

Temple was cool for the scene where the bugs crawl through Spielberg's wife's hair.

The heart scene in Temple (along with the Gremlin in the microwave in Gremlins) brought us the wonderful PG-13 rating (I did a paper on it).

Last Crusade was cool because you got to see Hitler and Indy in the same frame. Also, it made The Da Vinci Code possible (DVC steals a BUNCH from Last Crusade).

So....simply for the beginning montage (where Indy has to retrieve the idol, stave off the treachery of his travelmate and that French dude, then escape the natives, only to face a SNAKE in the cockpit) and the whole coolness of the melting Nazis from the Ark .....

Raiders.

Waus
12-17-2006, 12:11 AM
I always felt that Last Crusade was very so much betta than Raiders or Temple of Doom....but the heart scene in Temple of Doom was one of the greatest moments in cinematic history.

I really thought I was the only person who liked Last Crusade best.

Bob
12-17-2006, 12:38 AM
temple of doom is generally pretty lame, but for some reason it's the one i've seen the most (i don't think i've ever seen raiders from beginning to end). the reason it's lame is because it's the only one that doesn't feature nazi death. any movie where the nazis are the bad guys and they die is by default pretty good

i've grown to like temple of doom though. it's got its moments. "no time for love docta jones" "very funny, all wet" "antidote? ....to the poison you just drank! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!" etc etc etc

one of my friends from college looked a little like mola ram (the heart ripper guy), only we were all too drunk/dumb to know what the character's actual name was at the time, so we called him "maleron" and it stuck. so i guess temple of doom has a place in my heart (LOL)

ToucanSpam
12-17-2006, 12:50 AM
This should have been a poll.


Raiders was the best not because it was the first but because many characters were portrayed as less zany as compared to Crusade. I just plain don't like Temple.

Bob
12-17-2006, 01:09 AM
i just started watching raiders now because of this thread and oh shit, it's good, i can't believe i took so long. it's like han solo: the movie

"lightning...fire... v:rolleyes:v power of god or something"

mickill
12-17-2006, 02:06 AM
Romancing The Stone was a fine movie. Calling it one of the worst movies ever made is asinine. Either way, I wouldn't compare it to any of the Indiana Jones films, I guess.

Raiders is the best one hands down. Temple Of Doom was retarded. Seriously retarded. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it as a child, but it's a stupid movie. I like the Last Crusade a lot, but I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the original.

Lyman Zerga
12-17-2006, 02:52 AM
the one with the insects and the monkey head


spoken like a true indiana jones fan

steve-onpoint
12-17-2006, 03:50 AM
I fucks with Raiders.

Romancing The Stone was a fine movie.


Si.

ET
12-17-2006, 04:47 AM
Last Crusade is slightly better than the rest, IMO. Sean Connery + I have seen the library in Venice in real life. And it's not really a library.

Lex Diamonds
12-17-2006, 06:25 AM
stfu ;) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q7uHaGDueY)
That scene reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoJOOquM_VI

Another classic movie. (y)

roosta
12-17-2006, 02:06 PM
They all have their merits...I suppose Last Crusade is the best, but I like them all so I don't think too much about it.

Incidentally, if you shout "GOLI-MAR!!!" and make a claw with your hand, my nephew will freak the fuck out and run out of the room screaming. Pretty funny.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 04:19 PM
Thank goodness for a-z.




(y)


Raiders is one of the best movies ever. It was one of those movies where if you were old enough to see it in a theater when it came out, you knew that it was going to change movies.




Yup.

I first read about it coming up when it had Harrison Ford decked out as Indy on the cover of Rolling Stone. They did a big old feature on what a kick ass movie it was going to be, and I was like, "Hmmmmmmm."

Went and saw it and WHOA. It pretty much grabs you in the first 90 seconds and it's on.

Back in the day, you could see the snake's reflection in the glass that separates it from Indy, also. But you didn't care. The faces melting were mind-melting, and the sort of Twilight Zone last shot tickled the conspiracy theorist in you. The humor was genuinely witty; when sword guy was all menacing and Indy finally just draws the gun and fires, I remember the audience just erupted. Immediate iconic moment. Great, great stuff. And Marian was perfect -- the perfect, perfect foil for Indy.

Temple of Doom was just crap. Just crap. All of Spielberg's and Lucas' worst instincts went into that. I think all that was missing were some kicks-to-the-crotch shots, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone reminds me where someone took one.

Last Crusade was kind of like Return of the Jedi -- sort of like Indy Lite. A certain integrity is gone, and everything's leavened and cute and nothing really feels like it's ever at stake. It seemed pretty good when it first came out but it looks worse and worse all the time. Except for that swinging bridge shot -- that trompe l'oil (sp?) sort of reveal, which is pretty awesome.

Raiders - A
Temple of Doom - D
Last Crusade - C+

Bob
12-17-2006, 04:41 PM
when sword guy was all menacing and Indy finally just draws the gun and fires, I remember the audience just erupted. Immediate iconic moment. Great, great stuff.

apparently the story behind that scene is that there was actually supposed to be some big choreographed fight scene or something, but when they shot it, harrison ford had to take a crap or something, so he just improvised and shot him, and the other guy played along, and they decided to just use it.

so i hear.

Lex Diamonds
12-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Harrison had diarrhea LOL! NO HOMO.

Documad
12-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Harrison Ford had very bad flu so either Lucas or Spielberg said "maybe Indy should just shoot him" and the crew all laughed, and they put it in the movie.

I can't believe how many people like the sequels, muchless think they're better than the original. I'm really shocked. They were overblown crap with special effects and battles taking the place of plot and character, like Gremlins and Young Sherlock Holmes and all the kiddie movies made in the 80s. Plus Karen Allen MAKES the movie. She's not a dumb bimbo who just screams all the time.

The point with Romancing the Stone is that it was a cheap rip off of Raiders, and everyone knew it so the word was bad before it was released. Plus Michael Douglas's career was nowhere at the time. But then it came out and it was pretty darn good and it made both of its stars huge. The waterfall thing also won best stunt of the year because real people were in the car.

Documad
12-17-2006, 04:53 PM
BTW -- I haven't like another Spielberg movie as much since Raiders. And he's responsible for most of the crap that happened in the 1980s.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Yeah -- you guys have heard similar stories that I heard.

My recollection of the anecdote is that the whip-vs.-sword fight was all choreographed, and Harrison did have diarrhea. He said to Spielberg that he wears the gun through the whole movie and never unholsters it, so he said, "Why don't I just shoot the fucker?" And that's how it went in.

I'll see if I can find any official word on that, but I swear I remember Ford saying it in an interview, because I was surprised he'd use the word "fucker." Don't know why, but I was.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 05:00 PM
From Indy-net.co.uk:

It was in a crowded Kairouan marketplace that Spielberg had scheduled to shoot an incredible sword-versus-whip battle between Indy and an Arab warrior. By this time, though, Ford was suffering from a bad case of dysentery. (Spielberg was fine, though - he'd brought his own supplies of tinned food.) Trotting off to the loo every hour had left Ford in no condition for a prolonged day-long action sequence, and, even worse, the swordsman was "sort of inept," as Karen Allen puts it. "The guy had not really learned these choreographed moves," she says, "and it was looking like it wasn't gonna come off." So Ford suggested an alternative. "As was so very often the case, when I suggested it to Steven - 'Let's shoot the fucker' - he said he'd thought the same thing," jokes Ford. The fucker was shot. One of action cinema's funniest sight gags was born. And all because the star had the squits...

Documad
12-17-2006, 05:01 PM
I remember it from Lucas telling the story in a documentary on indie filmmakers of the 1970s. But Lucas could have been taking credit for something he didn't do and I can't remember it well enough anyway. Anyhow, it was an improv instead of something the writers came up with. Some people used to say that the actors improved the best scene in Jaws (about the USS Indianapolis) but that director who did Big Wednesday says he wrote it.

I have a making of documentary on Raiders, but it's on VHS and I haven't seen it in ages. I don't think it's in there for some reason. But they have this part about how they needed all the snakes and they cleaned out every snake supplier in England.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 05:03 PM
BTW -- I haven't like another Spielberg movie as much since Raiders.


He fucks up his movies, I swear. But I love ET. I think that's a masterpiece.

Saving Private Ryan should've lost the bookend treacly stuff. Pretty much everything else is solid. Schindler's List was so fucking simplistic; Ralph Finnes helped a LOT. AI has some bad acting and two endings too many, but a lot of it's great. The Flesh Fair is a messy set piece, and Dr. Know doesn't work, but so much is so good. Jurrasic Park had the dinosaurs and not much else, I don't think. Never saw the second one.

I didn't finish watching Munich; no idea on that one, either.

Minority Report has way too many plot holes and stupid tricks. War of the Worlds has some great stuff, and then the ending sells out say utterly it's crazy. Catch me if you Can is a good one, though. Hook is just awful. Shrill -- same problems as Temple of Doom. Never saw The Terminal.

Bob
12-17-2006, 05:04 PM
He said to Spielberg that he wears the gun through the whole movie and never unholsters it

thank you!

also, i think raiders must have had the earliest "snakes on a plane" reference ever

HEIRESS
12-17-2006, 05:08 PM
CHILDHOOD (http://www.movieactors.com/photos/lastcrusade1.jpeg)

BONER (http://www.theindyexperience.com/films/img/river_phoenix.gif)

CITY (http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/photosearch/Previews/CIN00360_359.jpg)

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 05:08 PM
I remember it from Lucas telling the story in a documentary on indie filmmakers of the 1970s. But Lucas could have been taking credit for something he didn't do and I can't remember it well enough anyway. Anyhow, it was an improv instead of something the writers came up with. Some people used to say that the actors improved the best scene in Jaws (about the USS Indianapolis) but that director who did Big Wednesday says he wrote it.



John Milius. Yeah. I've heard conflicting stories about that, too.

Did you hear the one where Robert Shaw was moaning about how he wished he could quit drinking, and Dreyfus took his bottle and chucked it out the porthole, and Shaw went bonkers? That always struck me as kind of funny.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 05:10 PM
CHILDHOOD (http://www.movieactors.com/photos/lastcrusade1.jpeg)

BONER (http://www.river-phoenix.org/phraseology/chapter14/indiana.jpg)

CITY (http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/photosearch/Previews/CIN00360_359.jpg)



Jeez. I was in Vancouver when he died. It was the second time that some celebrety's death actually hit me hard. No real idea why.

Lennon, Phoenix, and Altman. At least Altman got to play his full hand, more or less.

abcdefz
12-17-2006, 05:11 PM
i think raiders must have had the earliest "snakes on a plane" reference ever



:D

synch
12-17-2006, 05:15 PM
I just bought the box. I'll get back to you with a verdict when I've seen all three.

disclaimer: knowing me I could watch them back to back starting now or sometime during the summer of 2008

saz
12-17-2006, 05:45 PM
I can't believe how many people like the sequels, muchless think they're better than the original. I'm really shocked. They were overblown crap with special effects and battles taking the place of plot and character, like Gremlins and Young Sherlock Holmes and all the kiddie movies made in the 80s. Plus Karen Allen MAKES the movie. She's not a dumb bimbo who just screams all the time.

i was equally perplexed by people gushing over rocky and rudy, but you know what? who cares. let people have their opinions.


Saving Private Ryan should've lost the bookend treacly stuff. Pretty much everything else is solid. Schindler's List was so fucking simplistic; Ralph Finnes helped a LOT. AI has some bad acting and two endings too many, but a lot of it's great. The Flesh Fair is a messy set piece, and Dr. Know doesn't work, but so much is so good. Jurrasic Park had the dinosaurs and not much else, I don't think. Never saw the second one.

I didn't finish watching Munich; no idea on that one, either.

Minority Report has way too many plot holes and stupid tricks. War of the Worlds has some great stuff, and then the ending sells out say utterly it's crazy. Catch me if you Can is a good one, though. Hook is just awful. Shrill -- same problems as Temple of Doom. Never saw The Terminal.

spielberg is the hollywood king of sentimental, corny, feel-good, straight off the assembly-line, generic popcorn flicks. him and ron howard. there is very little of their work i find to have some sort of an original vision, and inspiration behind it. saving private ryan was a colossal disappointment. spielberg caved in and played up all of the overly patriotic cliches and aspects in this movie, ie too many american flags waving in the background, that feel-good original score, general marshall's speech and that big salute at the end were way too over the top and had me cringing. schindler's list is one of spielberg's great works. this movie really got to me, ie the horror of the nazis, and the sheer terror and hell experienced by european jews. ai was a pathetic disgrace, a whole new level of preposterous sentimentality. jurassic park was just a typical popcorn flick. i rate munich with schindler's list. it's a really good, engrossing movie, and a fine effort by spielberg. although the sex scene at the end, with eric bana and his wife nearly ruins the movie. it's really absurd. when you see it, you'll see what i mean. war of the worlds is a fun movie, an above average popcorn flick. the only really serious flaw with this movie is that tom cruise and his kids are the luckiest people running away from the alien tripods. there always seems to be a path clear for them to escape, avoiding death. and i'd like to see minority report. all in all, spielberg makes a lot of sentimental crap. sometimes a fun popcorn flick will emerge, and very rarely, a very good film.

The Notorious LOL
12-17-2006, 05:51 PM
River Phoenix seemed like a good guy...didnt get wrapped up in the whole egomanical hollywood stereotype.

Lex Diamonds
12-17-2006, 05:59 PM
2 BAD HE DIED LOL

mickill
12-17-2006, 06:02 PM
spielberg is the hollywood king of sentimental, corny, feel-good, straight off the assembly-line, generic popcorn flicks. him and ron howard. there is very little of their work i find to have some sort of an original vision, and inspiration behind it. saving private ryan was a colossal disappointment. spielberg caved in and played up all of the overly patriotic cliches and aspects in this movie, ie too many american flags waving in the background, that feel-good original score, general marshall's speech and that big salute at the end were way too over the top and had me cringing. schindler's list is one of spielberg's great works. this movie really got to me, ie the horror of the nazis, and the sheer terror and hell experienced by european jews. ai was a pathetic disgrace, a whole new level of preposterous sentimentality. jurassic park was just a typical popcorn flick. i rate munich with schindler's list. it's a really good, engrossing movie, and a fine effort by spielberg. although the sex scene at the end, with eric bana and his wife nearly ruins the movie. it's really absurd. when you see it, you'll see what i mean. war of the worlds is a fun movie, an above average popcorn flick. the only really serious flaw with this movie is that tom cruise and his kids are the luckiest people running away from the alien tripods. there always seems to be a path clear for them to escape, avoiding death. and i'd like to see minority report. all in all, spielberg makes a lot of sentimental crap. sometimes a fun popcorn flick will emerge, and very rarely, a very good film.
I agree with pretty much every single thing you've said here.

Minority Report is just another example of how Spielberg takes a great idea, then somehow always manages to make a film with a promising start, a clumsy middle and a predictable/sentimental Hollywood ending, for which he will ultimately reap billions of undeserved accolades for.

I agree that Ron Howard is a very similar filmaker, but I don't think he's as renowned for sabotaging his own work as Spielberg.

Auton
12-17-2006, 06:53 PM
God. Seriously, some of you guys are retards.

DroppinScience
12-17-2006, 07:40 PM
I can't believe how many people like the sequels, muchless think they're better than the original. I'm really shocked. They were overblown crap with special effects and battles taking the place of plot and character, like Gremlins and Young Sherlock Holmes and all the kiddie movies made in the 80s. Plus Karen Allen MAKES the movie. She's not a dumb bimbo who just screams all the time.

A lot of us were kids when we watched the movies (whether on video or those lucky enough to see 'em in the theatres), you weren't at the time of theatrical release. The sequels particularly appealed to the kids. So there's your reason why. :p

I LOVE the sequels myself, but I know full well the first is the best. But it seems you're putting down Temple of Doom and Last Crusade a bit excessively.

synch
12-17-2006, 07:49 PM
Yeah, Temple of Doom was the first Indy film I saw and I loved it. Now I see it as the worst one of the three but still very entertaining. Large part of it is "for old times sake though".

The guy popping up while they are spying on the ceremony still makes me jump sometimes :(

Knuckles
12-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Raiders is far and away the best of the three.


FACT

Documad
12-17-2006, 08:55 PM
I understand that people love what they loved as kids because it has sentimental value, but at some point when you're an adult you understand that while it's not really a great movie. I am very emotional about movies. The original Freaky Friday and any movie with Barbara Harris will always have a spot in my heart, but I understand that they're not in the same class as, say Parenthood. And Mary Poppins is about 45 minutes too long. As is The Sound Of Music.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it's the sheer number of people loving the later movies that I don't get.

I loved River Phoenix. Even in bad movies like Running On Empty, he was so real.

The Notorious LOL
12-17-2006, 09:56 PM
God. Seriously, some of you guys are retards.


yep.

Junker
12-18-2006, 06:11 AM
yeah, 'The Last Crusade' kicks ass!(y)
The best.

will have the 4th Indiana Jones or not??

na§tee
12-18-2006, 08:37 AM
why all the doom hate? :(

jackrock
12-18-2006, 09:10 AM
Don't dis Short-round, bitch!

Here we go Dockta Jones!

na§tee
12-18-2006, 09:29 AM
i see your creepy child-friendships and i RAISE YOU dakota fanning & tom cruise/steven spielberg.

Lex Diamonds
12-18-2006, 09:43 AM
I see your various perverted Tom Cruise situations and raise you Tom Cruise marrying Katie Holmes in order to hide his potentially career-damaging homosexuality.

na§tee
12-18-2006, 09:47 AM
i see your multifaceted creepy tom cruise childhood friendships and raise you tom cruise and jonathan lipnicki!

hmm. pattern much?

The Notorious LOL
12-18-2006, 10:12 AM
every person who says that Temple of Doom is god awful should be placed in a concentration camp there I said it.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 10:47 AM
I think Spielberg's made some great movies. Really, Raiders alone would put him up there, but he's also got Duel, Jaws, and ET under his belt. Those three aren't as pretty much perfect as Raiders, but they're great.

Then there are the great flawed movies: Close Encounters, AI, Saving Private Ryan. AI is the most fucked up of the three, but it's also the most challenging.

Then there are the "that was pretty good" movies: Sugarland Express, Schindler's List, Last Crusade, Jurrasic Park, Catch Me if You Can, War of the Worlds.

That's a damned good body of work, right there. Yeah, he sabotages himself, and the worst stuff -- The Color Purple, Minority Report, Temple of Doom, Hook -- is really awful.

roosta
12-18-2006, 11:50 AM
Catch Me If You Can is pretty decent.

synch
12-18-2006, 12:19 PM
The running children at the end... makes you want to get a gatling...

roosta
12-18-2006, 12:24 PM
Temple of Doom is still fun, despite the flaws, and fun is what i look for in these kind of films.

Auton
12-18-2006, 12:40 PM
Minority Report is a great movie. I think the only movies he made that were technically bad were Hook and The Lost World, but even those are somewhat enjoyable (and I know several people who absolutely adore Hook for some reason). Then again, I've never seen The Terminal, and I have to admit that I have no interest in seeing it.

I'd actually go as far as saying Spielburg has a better track record than anyone in hollywood. If someone's going to argue with me, please don't bring up some Indie director who's only directed 5 movies, thanks.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 12:47 PM
Scorsese and Hitchcock have big bodies of work with better hit/miss ratios than Spielberg, by a long shot.

Hell, I don't think Soderbergh is nearly the technical master Spielberg is, but his body of work is way more interesting. I'd rather have a failure like Full Frontal than a failure like Hook.

I'd also rather go with Altman. Maybe even Eastwood or Sydney Pollack, for that matter.

Auton
12-18-2006, 12:55 PM
I'd take Hook or The Lost World over

Marnie
Torn Curtain
Frenzy
The Birds
Family Plot... Hell, everything he made after 1960. He fell off HARD after Psycho.

Not that I'm not a Hitchcock fan. Vertigo is my favorite movie.

I'd take the Color Purple and Temple of Doom over

Gangs of New York
Bringing out the Dead
Cape fear

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 12:59 PM
I'd take Hook or The Lost World over

Marnie
Torn Curtain
Frenzy
The Birds
Family Plot... Hell, everything he made after 1960. He fell off HARD after Psycho.

Not that I'm not a Hitchcock fan. Vertigo is my favorite movie.

I'd take the Color Purple and Temple of Doom over

Gangs of New York
Bringing out the Dead
Cape fear



I think you're missing out big on The Birds. That's a great, great movie. And Family Plot is really fun; Frenzy is nearly great.

Gangs of New York is the only truly bad movie Scorsese has made.

Auton
12-18-2006, 01:04 PM
I used to like the birds; i just think it's a bit sloppy. Although I really seriously like the lack of music in the movie.(y) I don't think it's a terrible movie, and I kind of like Torn Curtain, I would just rather watch Temple of Doom, Minority Report, Color Purple, etc.

Ok, maybe not Hook though. I'll give you that.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 01:10 PM
Minority Report has too much cheating in it, for me. Boy, it's a great looking movie, though. But stuff like -- all the buildup about how his eyes can't be uncovered for 24 hours after the operation or he'll lose his sight, and then the big spiders set piece, and then the bandage is off, and -- zero. No ramifications, and the matter is just entirely dropped.

Same with the son surviving at the end of War of the Worlds. It's so frustrating, because, when he doesn't flinch -- storming the beach in Private Ryan, or the really really disturbing mob-grabs-the-car or dad-kills-the-crazy-man in War of the Worlds -- it's very observant and really affecting. And then he pulls this stupid it's-okay-we-weren't-serious! crap and it's just so really really wrong; it undercuts so much of what was good.

Auton
12-18-2006, 01:16 PM
I agree about the ending of War of the Worlds being to safe. It would have been a more rewarding ending if it felt Tom Cruise's character really lost something but manages to survive. Watching the movie a second or third time really suffers because of this. You know the characters are never really in danger because Speilburg won't kill the kids.

As for the eye thing in Minority Report... I found it to be a little puzzling, but I just assumed "oh its a good thing his eyes had healed just enough!" I know we shouldn't have to fill in things like that, but I didn't let it ruin the movie for me.

DroppinScience
12-18-2006, 02:37 PM
Dude, you're gonna hate "Minority Report" over the eye thing? Okay, I realize there's more you dislike, but that was very, very minor.

I think "Minority Report" is one of Spielberg's best recent movies. Love that show!

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 02:43 PM
Dude, you're gonna hate "Minority Report" over the eye thing? Okay, I realize there's more you dislike, but that was very, very minor.

I think "Minority Report" is one of Spielberg's best recent movies. Love that show!

It's crap. The movie doesn't unfold so much as fall apart.

I saw it in the theater with a friend, and we both grew more incredulous as it went along. It's a ridiculous movie that doesn't follow logic or its own internal logic.

Auton
12-18-2006, 02:46 PM
dude, no offense.... but you liked bulletproof monk.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 02:47 PM
dude, no offense.... but you liked bulletproof monk.


You talking to me? I've never seen it.

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 02:49 PM
Minority Report was a mixed bag; I didn't know what to think of the eye thing, or the people who were in the water.... Spielberg's best days are clearly behind him, I think.

Auton
12-18-2006, 02:51 PM
dude, no offense.... but you liked bulletproof monk.

could have swoooorn you reviewed it, but i believe you when you say you didn't see it.

maybe it was blighty.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 02:51 PM
Spielberg's best days are clearly behind him, I think.



I don't think so. He is stretching. It just seems he either doesn't trust himself or the audience or both, so he weasels out of the tough stuff that could really give his "difficult" movies the sort of integrity they need.

abcdefz
12-18-2006, 02:52 PM
could have swoooorn you reviewed it, but i believe you when you say you didn't see it.

maybe it was blighty.


Blighty's the one with hair. :D

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 02:55 PM
I don't think so. He is stretching. It just seems he either doesn't trust himself or the audience or both, so he weasels out of the tough stuff that could really give his "difficult" movies the sort of integrity they need.

No, I disagree. I just think his recent load of material Munich, WOTW, etc. was just not as ground breaking or awe inspiring as his older movies. It's like he brought us the creme of the crop for twenty years and then he kept coming out with things that werent as grand or amazing, because he already stimulated us as much as we could by gigantic dinosaurs, Jews, etc.

Auton
12-18-2006, 02:56 PM
munich was awesome.

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 02:57 PM
I disagree, but I respect your crappy opinion.

Auton
12-18-2006, 02:58 PM
I disagree, but I respect your crappy opinion.

moron.

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 02:59 PM
You gonna cry about it?

Auton
12-18-2006, 03:02 PM
yes, im going to cry about it. you gonna binge eat about it?

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 03:02 PM
I might. You gonna write us all a little myspace update about it?

Auton
12-18-2006, 03:04 PM
I might. You gonna write us all a little myspace update about it?

i don't even use my myspace page, but ok!

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 03:05 PM
He's the one getting all out of shape over me disliking a movie. I didn't expect his world would crumble this easily.

na§tee
12-18-2006, 03:06 PM
now, it's obviously a topic that is very close to all our hearts but let's just accept that temple of doom is awesome, and go to bed.

Auton
12-18-2006, 03:07 PM
i'm getting all bent out of shape? i say "munich was awesome" and you say "CRAPPY OPINION LOL"
i guess if i weighed as much as a baby elephant i'd be cranky too.

ToucanSpam
12-18-2006, 03:10 PM
Uh, you're definately blowing several things out of proportion there. First off, the crappy opinion thing was a joke. Seriously. Second, I'm neither cranky nor weigh anything close to a baby elephant. So how about maybe going to the corner for a time out because you're acting like a child over misinpterpreting a joke.

Auton
12-18-2006, 03:11 PM
: D

little j
12-18-2006, 03:26 PM
i've always like temple the best and crusade the least.

g-mile7
12-18-2006, 03:28 PM
taste thread

synch
12-18-2006, 03:28 PM
i've always like temple the best and crusade the least.
Good luck!

marsdaddy
12-18-2006, 03:30 PM
There was more than one Indiana Jones movie?

We all weigh "close" to a baby elephant during it's embryonic state.

Documad
12-19-2006, 12:25 AM
I enjoyed Munich. I would much rather Steve do those types of "smaller" movies than only working with Cruise or Hanks.
I didn't love Munich, but I think that had to do with me knowing too much about the true story. I'm a uniquely bad audience for that movie.

I agree with you completely though. At least Munich was interesting and the cast was excellent. I'd rather see Spielberg try things like that even if I don't flat out love them than see him making tired megamovies with tired megastars. Frankly, I don't think Tom Hanks should ever make another movie and certainly not with Spielberg.

I saw Minority Report on my birthday. I had such a bad time that I made sure to have better daytime plans the next year. :p

Documad
12-19-2006, 12:46 AM
I don't know if I can ever see another Tom Hanks movie. He's too old to do the sheepdog thing that I used to like. Tom probably suffers from getting offered too many parts that should have gone to other people. When he was good he was very good. I swear that Big was his best movie. That was a difficult role to pull off. He should have won an oscar for Big. I HATED Forrest Gump.

I have liked Tom Cruise in a ton of movies but I need a break from him too. Man he was good in a Few Good Men though. I thought Jack Nicholson and Demi Moore sucked but everyone else in that movie was golden. Cruise was also the only thing that made Rain Man bareable.

Tzar
12-19-2006, 03:09 AM
everyone shut the fuck up; i wanna see auton vs. toucan some more.
for fuck's sake, i always front the new pages.

Randetica
12-19-2006, 03:10 AM
awww baby elephant!

scotty
12-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Raiders without any fucking hesitation. The face-melting scared the bejeebus out of me as a kid.

Planetary
12-19-2006, 07:22 AM
lol toucan you big minge

edit: auton is slightly mingey too

Lex Diamonds
12-19-2006, 07:23 AM
lol planetary you fishy growler

Junker
12-19-2006, 07:24 AM
Guys, I need your help. Where I can download Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade - the game - to play on ScummVM ???

I cant find it. :mad:

Lex Diamonds
12-19-2006, 07:26 AM
TAL will probably hook you up. He sorted me out with shitloads of Scumm shit. (y)

Junker
12-19-2006, 07:31 AM
Thanks. I'll pm him then ;)

Planetary
12-19-2006, 07:36 AM
lol planetary you fishy growler

quiet you crusty dump

Lex Diamonds
12-19-2006, 08:01 AM
quiet you crusty dump
*squelch*

TAL
12-19-2006, 09:28 AM
Oh! I'm needed.

*Indiana Jones theme plays in background*

na§tee
12-19-2006, 09:29 AM
TAL sorted me out agggesss ago with all that shit :cool:

Junker
12-19-2006, 09:31 AM
Oh! I'm needed.

*Indiana Jones theme plays in background*

So, you know where to find it?

TAL
12-19-2006, 09:55 AM
Nope, no idea at all.

synch
12-19-2006, 12:01 PM
I have it in:

D:\#Edmund 40gb\D\#clean\# NEEDS TO BE SORTED\sort out your old shit you lazy bum!\crespo\archive\games\adventure\LucasArts\Fate of Atlantis

*blush*

TAL
12-19-2006, 12:09 PM
I was kidding, Junker is probably playing it now.

synch
12-19-2006, 12:11 PM
Pah, you made me upload all that data for nothing??

Ah well.

roosta
12-19-2006, 12:20 PM
im stuck in the arab market place :(
that dude wont come see me

Junker
12-19-2006, 01:44 PM
I was kidding, Junker is probably playing it now.

You're right...I've already played a little today (here in my work :D ).

But thanks synch too for sending me the Fate of Atlantis. (y)

Junker
12-19-2006, 01:48 PM
im stuck in the arab market place :(
that dude wont come see me

Hope this helps you out:

Algiers - Part One

"First thing you need to do in Algiers is talk to the knife thrower in the
marketplace. He'll tell you where to find Omar Al-Jabbar and he'll also tell
you that he needs a new assistant for his knife-throwing act. Talk to Sophia
and ask her if she'll volunteer. She doesn't trust the knife-thrower that
much. Tell her it's perfectly safe and ask her to watch more closely at his
technique. She'll approach the knife thrower. Once you regain control of the
cursor, push her towards the knife thrower. She'll become his new "assistant".
After the knife-thrower's act, Sophia will give you a blood-stained knife.

You can also talk to the grocer to learn the location of Omar Al-Jabbar's
shop and he'll also tell you about today's special : squab-on-a-stick for only
20 dinars. For now, head towards the back of the marketplace to find Omar
Al-Jabbar's shop by going down the back alley. Talk to the shopkeeper there.
He claims to know something about Atlantis but he's not sure he should take
you seriously or not. He needs some kind of proof. He says that if you can
show him one of the 3 stone disks, he'll help you.

Before leaving the shop, don't forget to take the mask (it's the only reason
to come to Algiers before Monte Carlo!). Head back to the airport by heading
back the way you came. Travel to Monte Carlo."

You can check the whole thing in here (http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/indiana_jones_and_the_fate_of_atlantis_a.txt) if you want.

Auton
12-19-2006, 02:07 PM
fate of atlantis = amazing

roosta
05-16-2008, 04:13 PM
every person who says that Temple of Doom is god awful should be placed in a concentration camp there I said it.

Temple of Doom is still fun, despite the flaws, and fun is what i look for in these kind of films.

in anticipation of the new one, I just watched all 3 again..

I kinda see why people might hate on Temple. I still think its fun and enjoyable, but it does have issues.

What does it for me is that essentially, the last 50 minutes is one long scene. From when they leave bedroom in the palace, to the bridge its one long extended action sequence. The other films had plot twists, and location changes. This is just one big run.

Still fun though.

The other two are pure gold.

Roll on the 22nd.

na§tee
05-16-2008, 05:57 PM
INDY, COVER YOUR HEART!

every person who says that Temple of Doom is god awful should be placed in a concentration camp there I said it.

now, it's obviously a topic that is very close to all our hearts but let's just accept that temple of doom is awesome, and go to bed.

ahaha.

LOL, why didn't you make this thread a poll, fool? it screams for it.

fucktopgirl
05-16-2008, 06:59 PM
Yayyyyyyyyy, cannot wait for the new indiana jones!!!


i think all the movies are great.

Indiana Jones is fucking hot.

jackrock
05-16-2008, 07:30 PM
now, it's obviously a topic that is very close to all our hearts

lol