Why isn't the media calling Bush a flip-flopper?

[D_Raay]

President Bush has twice recently said that the struggle in Iraq is crucial to the security of America and it's future. That it would be a "grievous" mistake to leave now. Then, having only drawn a few more breaths, he has said that the Iraqis must step up, that we have not given them an "open-ended" contract on our services. They need to get it together and fast or...?

So, which is it exactly? Can the "struggle of our generation" simply be cancelled due to poor returns on our investment?

[drizl]

i find it terribly funny that bush accused kerry of being a flip flopper in the last race. what a sonofabitch.

[Echewta]

Kerry was a flipflopper. Clinton was a waffler.

The weak tend to name call. The strong tend not to.

[JobDDT]

Don't blame the "media" for everything. "Media" doesn't call people flip-floppers... Pundits in newspaper Op-Ed sections and on cable news call people flip-floppers.

[Bob]

i find it terribly funny that bush accused kerry of being a flip flopper in the last race. what a sonofabitch.

what's funnier was when he accused him of being a millionaire

wonder how much money that commercial cost

democracy's hilarious sometimes

[QueenAdrock]

I love when people keep saying LIBERAL MEDIA LIBERAL MEDIA and yet it's true that they don't call Bush a flip-flopper. Nor do they focus on truly liberal issues. But that's always the answer to "Why are we seeing bad things about President Bush in the news recently?" Oh, because they're liberal, see. It has nothing to do with him being an actual colossal fuck-up. They're just spinning.

[sam i am]

Go ahead and call Bush (or any other human being) a flip-flopper.

Only one person in history I can recall that never changed their mind, backed down from authority, allowed hypocrisy into their soul, or "flip-flopped" on issues.

Every other human being before, during, or after has been full of hypocrisy, flip-flopping, and waffling.

[QueenAdrock]

True. But this just shows the pure hypocrisy of Bush's smear campaign against Kerry in '04. Bush acted like as though he were an angel and Kerry was this big, bad flip-flopper. Everyone picked up that word and used it against Kerry and didn't even think about applying it to Bush.

Only a handful of people came forth and said "This is bullshit. Look at what Bush did that's flip-flopping, how dare he act like Kerry's the only one who's said one thing and changed his mind later." I saw more people in '04 pick up the catch phrase and use it against Kerry. They were Bush's puppets and it was disgusting.

It's just so dumb, it'd be like ANY politician coming forth and saying "My opponent lied...". Well, duh. He's a politician. That's what they do for a living. But to say it and then act like it doesn't apply to you is just hypocritical.

[sam i am]

Again...they, and all of us, are hypocrites to our cores.

Never be surprised by others' hypocrisy as it lives within you at all times as well - like recognizes like.

That being said - I recall plenty of media reports that trashed Bush left, right, up and down prior to and since the '04 election. Millions of people voted against him. Somewhere, somehow, the message got through that Kerry was a better choice.

It wasn't enough for Kerry to beat him, but those chickens came home to roost in '06, didn't they?

[Echewta]

Chicken and waffles. MMmmmmm.

[STANKY808]

Again...they, and all of us, are hypocrites to our cores.

Never be surprised by others' hypocrisy as it lives within you at all times as well - like recognizes like.

I gotta call "bullshit" on this statement.

While most people may hold contradictory view points (i.e support abortion, but oppose the death penalty or vice versa), I don't think most people are hypocrits (i.e. "homosexuals are evil and must be cured" while at the same time getting their knob polished by a gay hooker and doing meth).

[Funkaloyd]

Only one person in history I can recall that never changed their mind, backed down from authority, allowed hypocrisy into their soul, or "flip-flopped" on issues.
Btw, that wasn't a person, as such. Hercules was half man, half god.

[D_Raay]

Don't blame the "media" for everything. "Media" doesn't call people flip-floppers... Pundits in newspaper Op-Ed sections and on cable news call people flip-floppers.
You know, if I were the director of a major media outlet, and responsible for relaying the NEWS to the country, pundits from cable and from op-eds hurling specious insults in an effort to cast specific individuals in a bad light merely to tow it's party's line, would never get into my news program.

I would hardly consider that "fair and balanced" reporting at all.

Yet...

[sam i am]

I gotta call "bullshit" on this statement.

While most people may hold contradictory view points (i.e support abortion, but oppose the death penalty or vice versa), I don't think most people are hypocrits (i.e. "homosexuals are evil and must be cured" while at the same time getting their knob polished by a gay hooker and doing meth).

You can attempt to call "bullshit" all you want, but it is axiomatic and not open to interpretation our your own personal opinion.

We're all hypocrites in our own ways. Think about how you act, feel, and think when no one is watching. Think about the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche or soul - then come back here and state you have no hypocrisy within you.

Good luck with that.

[sam i am]

Btw, that wasn't a person, as such. Hercules was half man, half god.

Hercules was bodily taken into the Greek pantheon of Gods, thus tyransforming into a "demigod." He lost all vestiges of humanity, per se, upon doing so, and assumed the role of a "god."

Hercules has also not been historically confirmed by eyewitness accounts, BTW.

[JobDDT]

You know, if I were the director of a major media outlet, and responsible for relaying the NEWS to the country, pundits from cable and from op-eds hurling specious insults in an effort to cast specific individuals in a bad light merely to tow it's party's line, would never get into my news program.

I would hardly consider that "fair and balanced" reporting at all.

Yet...

Cable news is an abomination, because its 90% pundit programs, 5% "Ab-O-Tron" infomercials and 5% news breaks.

[Funkaloyd]

Hercules has also not been historically confirmed by eyewitness accounts, BTW.Of course not. Otherwise there'd be no point in having faith.

[D_Raay]

Of course not. Otherwise there'd be no point in having faith.
Ha!

[STANKY808]

You can attempt to call "bullshit" all you want, but it is axiomatic and not open to interpretation our your own personal opinion.

We're all hypocrites in our own ways. Think about how you act, feel, and think when no one is watching. Think about the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche or soul - then come back here and state you have no hypocrisy within you.

Good luck with that.

You don't see a difference between contradictions and hypocrisy? Man get yourself a thesaurus and quick!

I'll say it again, I think al people have some sort of contradictions in their worldviwes/politics etc., but not all people say one thing and do another.

As for me, who the fuck are you to judge? You have no idea how I conduct myself or whether or not I am a hypocrite. Again, check your language before jumping on people, cause I agree with you to a certain extant.