View Full Version : The Kosher Diet....
MC Moot
01-25-2007, 03:10 PM
I been thinking about the rules of a Kosher diet and some of it is really starting to appeal to me…..I mean I found myself having a omelet for breakfast the other day and then a chicken club for lunch and it just seemed kinda wrong…..I don’t think I could swear off shell fish or pork completley, but I’m beginning to think eating beef with milk just isn’t right….but what about stroganoff I say?....or all those savory French sauces made with cream?......anyone got any thoughts? Or has anyone ingrained these rules into their diet…I mean it could make vegetarianism a lot easier to “swallow”…..anyways, I think there could be some real wisdom in these “laws”…..
Randetica
01-25-2007, 07:49 PM
I mean I found myself having a omelet for breakfast the other day and then a chicken club for lunch and it just seemed kinda wrong
wow i never thought of that before (no sarcasm added) im a veggie anyway but still.. it sounds not really wrong but still kinda moralishly wrong
always glad to be a help
jabumbo
01-26-2007, 01:52 AM
i think the combonation of beef and cheese is simply divine, and could never survive in a kosher world
i also love pork and shellfish way to much to not have it again
hitmonlee
01-28-2007, 09:54 PM
but what about stroganoff I say?....or all those savory French sauces made with cream?......anyone got any thoughts?
i have thoughts... how could you deprive yourself of creamy sauces on steak!
or like jajumbo said, cheese.
ok imagine you were having mexican... no cheese and sour cream if you order anything with beef! how much would that suck.
or if you have beef curry, no natural yogurt.
Randetica
01-28-2007, 11:17 PM
sounds too complicated
just eat it and STFU :p
MC Moot
01-29-2007, 11:02 AM
i have thoughts... how could you deprive yourself of creamy sauces on steak!
or like jajumbo said, cheese.
ok imagine you were having mexican... no cheese and sour cream if you order anything with beef! how much would that suck.
or if you have beef curry, no natural yogurt.
The cheese angle does'nt seem wrong to me,you know it's somehow seperate,like it's a milk by-product....I know it's tuff,like fried chicken,how ya make a batter without the huevos?
I'm not eating chicken and eggs within 6 hours of each other,preferably not within the same day and I'm not drinking a milkshake with my burger anymore.....I also think I will try to only eat one flesh based source of protein in a day from here on in, good for health I think…..
hitmonlee
01-29-2007, 08:38 PM
The cheese angle does'nt seem wrong to me,you know it's somehow seperate,like it's a milk by-product....I know it's tuff,like fried chicken,how ya make a batter without the huevos?
I'm not eating chicken and eggs within 6 hours of each other,preferably not within the same day and I'm not drinking a milkshake with my burger anymore.....I also think I will try to only eat one flesh based source of protein in a day from here on in, good for health I think…..
its dairy. how is it different.
but yeah whatever, enjoy your diet. i'm gonna eat meat and drink milkshakes until the cows come home.
plutomama
02-16-2007, 02:12 AM
my husband is jewish and years ago i read up on the koshering process. we don't keep kosher, period, but i think kosher meats are better tasting and better for you.
the whole process of koshering meat takes a long time, and only the highest quality of cattle/poulty are killed. they would never even consider killing and eating a sick animal, and even though the meats are higher in salt content, they are ultimately safer to eat because of the higher standard.
i have a kooky theory that some day, the u.s. will have to kosher all of it's meat because of mad cow, ecoli (sp?) and other nasty shit.
kosher meats are also more expensive because of the process:) . the cost comes with the quality. i won't feed my kids franks that aren't kosher, i don't want them eating lips and assholes!!!
p.s. the meat n' cheese combo is overrated. i'm allergic to dairy and need to special order most of my food. you won't die from ordering your mexican food without cheese or sour cream.
Randetica
02-16-2007, 04:50 AM
i think ^that too cause i know this much is TRUE
plutomama
02-16-2007, 09:07 AM
yeah!
hitmonlee
02-18-2007, 09:15 PM
p.s. the meat n' cheese combo is overrated. i'm allergic to dairy and need to special order most of my food. you won't die from ordering your mexican food without cheese or sour cream.
i wouldn't get mexican if there was no cheese or sour cream.
plutomama
02-19-2007, 04:05 AM
most people enjoy the dairy = but if you're a person that's gone without milk products all of your life, it's really no big deal.
i never have to special order in middle eastern or asian restaurants:) this makes me happy!
MC Moot
02-20-2007, 10:38 AM
my husband is jewish and years ago i read up on the koshering process. we don't keep kosher, period, but i think kosher meats are better tasting and better for you.
the whole process of koshering meat takes a long time, and only the highest quality of cattle/poulty are killed. they would never even consider killing and eating a sick animal, and even though the meats are higher in salt content, they are ultimately safer to eat because of the higher standard.
kosher meats are also more expensive because of the process:) . the cost comes with the quality..
It’s true the quality is easily superior….mmmmm Montréal smoked corn beef on rye…..I find great irony in the similarity between the Kosher laws and Halal laws…they’re almost identical, religiously geographic cousins yet so often mortally opposed, so silly….at work our clients and staff eat all Halal meat due to cultural sensitivity and an amazing kitchen….no pork in da house....I think the difference in quality between the Halal butchers meats and my local “Safeway” butcher to be miles apart…the Halal meat is so superior, I’m actually amazed by the ground beef, almost entirely sans fat……I was watching a cooking show recently and the rules in a truly Kosher kitchen are trick, like different knives for meat/chicken/fish….entirely different place settings to ensure no cross contamination….you even had to be an orthodox Jew to just turn on the stoves…interesting stuff…(y)
plutomama
02-21-2007, 05:31 AM
wow - i liked what you said - both dietary laws sound similar. i don't know much about halal laws, the food sounds really good. i hear what your saying, "Slaveway" is really bad. quality went way down after the 80's. i'm pretty picky about my meats overall. my mother was pretty cheap growing up, and she spent as little as possible on food. not because we had little money to eat, but because she didn't value quality.
long story short is my little brother bit into a lips n' asshole's hot dog and literally chipped his front tooth on it! gristle? brains? who knows!!???
MC Moot
02-21-2007, 04:30 PM
long story short is my little brother bit into a lips n' asshole's hot dog and literally chipped his front tooth on it! gristle? brains? who knows!!???
Oh yeah the wonderful things that happen at the abattoir:
"Rendering is an industrial process that converts waste animal tissue into stable, value-added materials. The majority of tissue processed comes from slaughterhouses but also includes restaurant grease and butcher shop trimmings. This material can include the fatty tissue, bones, and offal, as well as entire carcasses of animals condemned at slaughterhouses, and those that have died on farms (deadstock), in transit, etc. The most common animal sources are beef, pork, sheep or poultry."
:eek:
hitmonlee
02-21-2007, 08:20 PM
long story short is my little brother bit into a lips n' asshole's hot dog and literally chipped his front tooth on it! gristle? brains? who knows!!???
ahh i did that (minus the chipped tooth but it still hurt) when i was 8, and haven't eaten a red hotdog since.
ok maybe one when i was drunk, but i regretted it after!
plutomama
03-02-2007, 09:32 AM
i can't believe that the "hot dog" incident has happened to so many people!!! yikes!!! this is nasty, it's high time that they do away with the "red dogs!"
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