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Junker
01-30-2007, 12:57 PM
...when MMM changes original beats when they play live. I mean, he's extraordinary and uses some dope beats, no doubt about it. But I wish I could listen to Sure Shot, Pass The mic, So What'cha Want, Intergalactic, Body Movin' and Skills To Pay The Bills in their original version (at least these songs).

I'm not saying he should stop doing this. I'm just saying he could add his skills to the original beats sometimes, without changing them. It would be awesome :)

M.C. Guevera
01-30-2007, 01:04 PM
THANK YOU!

I've been saying that since the beginning. I've never liked it when he changes the beats. Some beats shouldn't be touched.

freetibet
01-30-2007, 01:14 PM
That's a good remark! Especially the newest shows show some totally changed beats... Nah, classics should stay classics.




And 'Actually I don't like that much...' "Something's got to give".:/

camo
01-31-2007, 04:02 AM
...when MMM changes original beats when they play live. I mean, he's extraordinary and uses some dope beats, no doubt about it. But I wish I could listen to Sure Shot, Pass The mic, So What'cha Want, Intergalactic, Body Movin' and Skills To Pay The Bills in their original version (at least these songs).

I'm not saying he should stop doing this. I'm just saying he could add his skills to the original beats sometimes, without changing them. It would be awesome :)

but then why would you wanna go to a show and here the exact same things you could here at home on your stereo. I love guessing what the next beat will be and it makes each show different and unique (y)

Deep_Sea_Rain
01-31-2007, 04:36 AM
Some of the beats are amazing...breathing new life into old classics. Some just blow.

Kid Presentable
01-31-2007, 05:39 AM
Just take the cds to a show and plug in some headphones.

Junker
01-31-2007, 05:51 AM
You missed the "sometimes" dont you??

Randetica
01-31-2007, 05:59 AM
yeah heard the original versions million times..

hurricane was a boring dj compared to mmm (no racism added) mike is just a mix master and they should keep him thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis long

too many different samples/beats whould fuck up songs though like when you cant figure out which song is on right now

best thing is to keep the first verse original then throw out some other beats



no clue what the hell im talking about

Laver1969
01-31-2007, 06:47 AM
During the HN tour I didn't really didn't like when he threw in different beats. I thought it side-tracked the song, was too confusing and didn't flow very well.

I've come to appreciate the skills that he has. And now love when he switches it up...like a true DJ should. Now I think it's very boring to listen/watch old shows with the Hurra doing very little.

camo
01-31-2007, 07:05 AM
yeah heard the original versions million times..

hurricane was a boring dj compared to mmm (no racism added) mike is just a mix master and they should keep him thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis long



I doubt anyone would deem that racist! lol

Junker
01-31-2007, 07:39 AM
During the HN tour I didn't really didn't like when he threw in different beats. I thought it side-tracked the song, was too confusing and didn't flow very well.

I've come to appreciate the skills that he has. And now love when he switches it up...like a true DJ should. Now I think it's very boring to listen/watch old shows with the Hurra doing very little.

You're right. Hurra didn't add too much to their performances but I will never think it's boring listen/watch old shows cause the boys energy was awesome on stage. Even with a stared DJ. :D

PS: I just wanna clear things up here. MMM for me is also one of the greatest (if not the greatest) DJ's ever.

icy manipulator
01-31-2007, 07:55 AM
his little interlude set was great, but i wasn't a huge fan of him dropping Punjabi MC in Body Movin'

Web Filter
01-31-2007, 08:01 AM
his little interlude set was great, but i wasn't a huge fan of him dropping Punjabi MC in Body Movin'


rasism isn't big nor clever.

Please refrain

Otis Driftwood
01-31-2007, 08:10 AM
rasism isn't big nor clever.

Please refrain
Being too dumb too spell is reason enough to stick your alias up your ass!

icy manipulator
01-31-2007, 08:16 AM
rasism isn't big nor clever.

Please refrain
mate, if you're really that bored to create an alias then lick my hairy crack faggot.

an for you info, i love indians, i love cricket ffs

cj hood
01-31-2007, 09:48 AM
...when MMM changes original beats when they play live. I mean, he's extraordinary and uses some dope beats, no doubt about it. But I wish I could listen to Sure Shot, Pass The mic, So What'cha Want, Intergalactic, Body Movin' and Skills To Pay The Bills in their original version (at least these songs).

I'm not saying he should stop doing this. I'm just saying he could add his skills to the original beats sometimes, without changing them. It would be awesome :)

i agree.....its not different anymore, it's expected.....when hurra did it, it was a nice surprise.....part of the reason to see them live is to hear the original beats from the records.....

Junker
01-31-2007, 10:14 AM
i agree.....its not different anymore, it's expected.....when hurra did it, it was a nice surprise.....part of the reason to see them live is to hear the original beats from the records.....

That's right cj. That's the way I think too.
No one here's questioning mix master skills. He's just awesome. But now is time to bring those beats back.

Loppfessor
01-31-2007, 10:15 AM
...when MMM changes original beats when they play live. I mean, he's extraordinary and uses some dope beats, no doubt about it. But I wish I could listen to Sure Shot, Pass The mic, So What'cha Want, Intergalactic, Body Movin' and Skills To Pay The Bills in their original version (at least these songs).

I'm not saying he should stop doing this. I'm just saying he could add his skills to the original beats sometimes, without changing them. It would be awesome :)

I agree man especially when he doesn't even use something original. It sucks hearing the lyrics to say Sure Shot over a Fabulous beat or some other new main stream rap song....

RadioPWEi
01-31-2007, 10:34 AM
the reason that hurricanes "skills" were so "boring" is that all of his shit was on DAT. He'd throw in a "scratch" here and there and that was pretty much it. The reason they went with MMM was to incorporate the skills of a true DJ that could mix it up live, which is pretty amazing.

I've heard some pretty bizarro live sets where pass the mic sounded like complete ish and they almost have to change up their tempo, but i think as a band it also keeps them on their toes. I've seen them play quite a few times but seeing them at four shows in a row on the east coast during the HN tour and every show being way different was great. It probably gets boring for the band to do the same set every night for months.

All they need to do now is change their f'ing encore. i don't know why sabotage is the official closing credits song but that ish is tired at this point.

Extra Cheese
01-31-2007, 11:14 AM
i really like the change of beats but MMM gets too used to the same beats for same songs

milkboy009
01-31-2007, 01:37 PM
Some of the beats are amazing...breathing new life into old classics. Some just blow.

All i know is "So Whatcha Want" over the "Breath" beat really gave new a new respect for the song! I love how he mixes up the beats, it keeps the crowd jumpin. Hip Hop beats in general are kinda repetitive, so its not a bad thing to switch up half way through.

Auton
01-31-2007, 01:43 PM
no way, that's half the reason why the live versions are fun to listen to...

Junker
01-31-2007, 01:47 PM
Sure Shot and So What'cha Want will never be the same without the original beat.

M.C. Guevera
01-31-2007, 02:17 PM
Really, "Brass Monkey" should never be done to a Nina Sky song.

LongDuckDong
01-31-2007, 02:48 PM
If I want to see Mike's skills and how he incorporates other beats into his own music then I'll buy his solo work or see him live if he ever gets to this area. If I'm going to see the Bboys live then I want to hear they're music with an ocasional switch up, but not something that is going to happen each live performance for the same song.

roosta
01-31-2007, 03:24 PM
no way, i think what MMM brings to the show's is amazing, and just what the beastie's need. i wouldn't change it for the world.

Sir SkratchaLot
01-31-2007, 03:32 PM
I like the change-ups. It keeps things interesting. Its why they use Mike. Its their call, not ours.

If they listened to you guys they'd be playing Fight for Your Right every other song, bare-chested, with Rage Against the Machine and 311 doing back-up vocals (ie they would suck).

Part of the beauty of the Beastie Boys is that they don't pander to fans. The fans usually come around after a few years and realize that the Beasties are professionals and know what they're doing. You just have to be open minded and trust their judgment (to an extent anyway). When this topic came up back in 98 there were very few people that appreciated Mix Master Mike. Now you see a lot more people "getting it". Then again, some of you are still stuck in 1986 wearing tight rolled up jeans and dreaming about crispy-haired women but there's nothing anyone is going to be able to do to get you past that.

JobDDT
01-31-2007, 04:00 PM
Wow, Sir Skratchalot, no need to get personal.

I for one think its kind of funny that probably the only song Mix Master Mike doesn't over samplify is "Three MCs and One DJ" which is basically his song.

I agree with the original poster, but its no huge deal or anything.

Deep_Sea_Rain
01-31-2007, 04:47 PM
All i know is "So Whatcha Want" over the "Breath" beat really gave new a new respect for the song!

That's actually the main track I had in mind when I made that statement...you read my thoughts, yo.

Loppfessor
01-31-2007, 06:13 PM
I like the change-ups. It keeps things interesting. Its why they use Mike. Its their call, not ours.

If they listened to you guys they'd be playing Fight for Your Right every other song, bare-chested, with Rage Against the Machine and 311 doing back-up vocals (ie they would suck).

Part of the beauty of the Beastie Boys is that they don't pander to fans. The fans usually come around after a few years and realize that the Beasties are professionals and know what they're doing. You just have to be open minded and trust their judgment (to an extent anyway). When this topic came up back in 98 there were very few people that appreciated Mix Master Mike. Now you see a lot more people "getting it". Then again, some of you are still stuck in 1986 wearing tight rolled up jeans and dreaming about crispy-haired women but there's nothing anyone is going to be able to do to get you past that.

You're an idiot....why do you think you know more about the Beastie Boys than anyone here? I know a lot of fans can't seem to get past LTI but you're really just an idiot I can't overstate that enough

manwich
01-31-2007, 06:48 PM
I think Mix Master Mike is an essential part of their live show and he is deff part of the band when they play. The only reason he doesn't change up Three MCs and 1 DJ is because he fucking rips that shit with ONE record. The shit is unbelievable, so skilled, and when it comes to remixing that shit, I mean, HE MAKES THE BEAT with a record, he doesn't just play a record. The guy is a legend. Also, Saying that if you wanted to see Mike's skills you would just go buy his solo recordings is kinda whack too because, when the B-Boys play live, the shit they do is hardly MMM stuff, it most definitely is Beastie Boys cuts, he is just adding a little sauce to the spaghetti! And clearly the boys LOVE that shit, cause when he puts down a break that they aren't expecting you can just see it in their faces that they respect the mix MASTER.

cennay
01-31-2007, 07:24 PM
i really don't know if all of the boys like it....


but with hurry it was the beastie with their dj.


Now it's like two band playing together, mmm and the bb. mmm is used to do shows alone, and the bb too. the two together is somewhat tricky.


Not that i don't like it.

mcamuto
01-31-2007, 07:45 PM
The sad thing too much of 'hip hop' is just a band and 'some dj' but that is pretty lame actually from what hip hop used to be and what it really is and what it should be.

When run-dmc formed they were a 'group' of three and it really represented a dj and mc's as a band. When MMM joined he said (paraphrased) that 'i want to make the shows live like run-dmc did and that is really what he did by injecting his style. unfortunately with hurricane (and dj's of many many bands) the dj really did nothing. in the case of hurricane he rarely played wax even since most stuff was on DAT. the beasties are a very energetic group but as they have aged they have slowed down a lot and I think the energy of MMM keeping them on their toes really helps. with MMM the beasties are more 'band like' because they do play off eachother during live performance. in a lot of hip hop the dj could be on his cell phone and nothing would matter.

very few hip hop bands do it right live. compare the beasties, run-dmc, j5's ect of the world to a lot of the hip hip bands with no signature dj and you really have an awesome experience compared to very hum-drum experience.

ggirlballa
01-31-2007, 07:51 PM
my bother isn't much of a beastie boys fan he gives them their props but isn't into their music...anywayz he took me to a beastie boys concert & he was FASCINATED by Mix Master Mike, i asked him at the end of the show what he thought and he said that the beasties were alright but the DJ was incredible....:confused: well since he isn't a b-boy fan i guess he does make sense, but he really liked how MMM uses beats from today's mainstream & makes it work with the beastie boys

and his fingers are super quick

seeing MMM live is just mind blowing:eek:

pshabi
01-31-2007, 10:12 PM
BBoys + MMM > Bboys w/ Hurricane. It's not even close.


/end thread

M.C. Guevera
01-31-2007, 10:30 PM
This is true.

Although, I DID like Hurricane's freestyles. That performance on the Aresenio Hall Show was ill.

And I like "Stick 'Em Up".

SickFreak
01-31-2007, 10:45 PM
MMM is very good.

Sometimes his samples are weird, but still good.

Who woulda thought he would drop Stevie Wonder into "Posse in Effect"?

They should play "Looking Down the Barrel of a Gun" so MMM could drop a slow, southern beat.

Kid Presentable
01-31-2007, 10:53 PM
BBoys + MMM > Bboys w/ Hurricane. It's not even close.


/end thread
It's true. But back then, nobody was complaining, either.

pshabi
01-31-2007, 11:02 PM
It's true. But back then, nobody was complaining, either.
Well,

Nobody was complaining when all they had was black and white TV either. But once color TV came out, who the fucked preferred black and white?

Nah mean?

Jitters
01-31-2007, 11:24 PM
I love it when MMM throws down some new beats live. It really breaks up songs that might drag on live like So Watcha Want.

Just imagine if they did it just like on the album, it would be real slow but instead they kind of get to pump it up for the crowd.

JobDDT
02-01-2007, 02:04 AM
So Watcha Want drags on for you?

Do you have the attention span of a 4th grader?

Too me, a traditional music fan, it would be like the Rolling Stones changing up one of their instruments to an Aerosmith song, while keeping the lyrics the same. I'm just not a huge fan of the over saturation of it. Here and there is fine, but with MMM, it seems like he just totally blows it out of the water 30 seconds into the song.

I just watched a live video where they didn't even keep the original beat of "Pass The Mic" for 15 seconds, which is actually one of my favorite songs beat wise.

pshabi
02-01-2007, 02:32 AM
I just watched a live video where they didn't even keep the original beat of "Pass The Mic" for 15 seconds, which is actually one of my favorite songs beat wise.

Yawn,

15 years later and countless shows and that shit is tired. For them, and me. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I truly believe MMM is the biggest reason they are still touring like they do. W/O him, there probably wouldn't be any Beastie Boys.

20 years from now, I'll think of the beastie boys, and I'll ALWAYS picture them as Adam, Adam, Mike, AND MIKE.

Auton
02-01-2007, 03:17 AM
Too me, a traditional music fan, it would be like the Rolling Stones changing up one of their instruments to an Aerosmith song, while keeping the lyrics the same. I'm just not a huge fan of the over saturation of it.

man, the bullshitometer is going off the charts!

you don't know what you're talking about. your comparison makes absolutely no sense.

Randetica
02-01-2007, 03:42 AM
rasism isn't big nor clever.

Please refrain

that made me lol

Sure Shot and So What'cha Want will never be the same without the original beat.

thank god :p


i also think hurricane was a bit too serious for the beasties while mmm fits perfectly, he even gives them the right name balance (cant beat that argument)

ok if that ^comment wasnt racist then i dont know what racism is

titou lapraline
02-01-2007, 03:42 AM
That performance on the Aresenio Hall Show was ill.
And where could we find it ??

Junker
02-01-2007, 05:26 AM
And where could we find it ??

Here Titou. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMH34zMTfoQ)

Junker
02-01-2007, 05:31 AM
And guys. Just to make things clear (again :rolleyes: )

I wasn't complaining about MMM. He's the best. Afterall, "Nobody can do it like Mix Master can".
I'm just saying that he, sometimes, I said sometimes, could add his skills to the original beats.

Junker
02-01-2007, 05:34 AM
Just imagine if they did it just like on the album, it would be real slow but instead they kind of get to pump it up for the crowd.

I'd just love it! (y)

JobDDT
02-01-2007, 09:04 AM
man, the bullshitometer is going off the charts!

you don't know what you're talking about. your comparison makes absolutely no sense.

Bullshitometer? Sorry, I don't go to every Beastie Boys show on their worldwide tour like a groupie. I've only been to one of their shows live (like many of the normal non-message board going fans) and I was quite annoyed like the original poster by every song being changed 20-25 seconds in.

Although I do appreciate you segmenting my entire post into one phrase that you disagree with, followed by a personal attack.

Dick.

Laver1969
02-01-2007, 09:19 AM
I don't listen to any of the hip hop or rap that is popular today.

Do other groups' DJs switch up their beats in concerts? Or is MMM just really one of the few that really mixes it up?

Laver1969
02-01-2007, 09:23 AM
but I will never think it's boring listen/watch old shows cause the boys energy was awesome on stage.

Yeah...maybe "boring" wasn't the right word. But MMM adds a whole new dimension to the songs and their performance. (y)

Junker
02-01-2007, 10:16 AM
Of course he adds a whole new dimension to the live performances. But as someone already said here, now this beat changes are expected. He could now surprise everybody not changing them. :D

AndILoveMike!
02-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Sometimes I like it and sometimes not. I was thinking to AIFST! I know there was what-his-name to beatbox, and not MixMaster, but Time to get ill original version is muuuuch better. MixMaster version of Root Down, with that stuff like something militar or so, was unforgettable.

I luv MixMaster, but nobody worked like Hurricane in Paul's Botique

Laver1969
02-01-2007, 11:50 AM
I luv MixMaster, but nobody worked like Hurricane in Paul's Botique

I don't believe Hurricane worked on PB at all.

Junker
02-01-2007, 01:01 PM
I don't believe Hurricane worked on PB at all.

lol ..we agree on that

fonky pizza
02-01-2007, 01:13 PM
Pauls Boutique= Beastie Boys + Dust Brothers

Kaptain Nemo
02-01-2007, 01:21 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHZP9ElVEA">Arsenio was the bomb back in the day...</a>

Sir SkratchaLot
02-01-2007, 02:08 PM
You're an idiot....why do you think you know more about the Beastie Boys than anyone here? I know a lot of fans can't seem to get past LTI but you're really just an idiot I can't overstate that enough

Obviously, you got offended because in describing my general annoyance with many of the themes that repeatedly run on this website I've described you. Sorry you took it personally dood.

Its not about knowing more about the Beastie Boys than anyone else. This ain't a game show. Its about knowing what you are talking about before opening your mouth. My point being that its a fact that Beastie Boys fans have repeatedly rejected their decision to make changes and fans have repeatedly eaten their words years later. You can't discredit that. Rather than trying to discredit my argument, you've tried to discredit me. That's a sign of weakness. Fact.

If you look at this thread compared to the same thread 5 years ago, its a sign that people have changed their attitude about Mike, just like they changed their attitude about Paul's Boutique, and Check Your Head funk tracks, and Hello Nasty. Change can be good. People get all warm and cuddly in their preferences and when shit switches up on them they reject it. But, after a while, they usually learn, grow, and come to appreciate positive change. From looking at all the people supporting the man in this post, its cool that people have come around and recognized Mike's skill. And while its a little annoying to see this when you've been trying to tell people how dope Mike is for 10 years, its still dope that more people appreciate skills now. The Beastie Boys are hip hop artists. That mindset permiates their music. Fact. Hip hop is 8 zillion times bigger than the Beastie Boys and its built on skills. In hip hop, real skills can't be denied because skills is what we strive for. In hip hop, you better be careful about who you diss because if you can't match or beat their skills then you will get clowned. Hip hop might not be your thing, it might not be other fan's thing, but don't diss the methodology because you don't understand it. Its obvious why they chose Mike and why they do live shows the way they do now. I've been to the old shows and the new ones. I had my reservations about Mike too, but the longer he's been around the better their live shows get. Its too bad you're still stuck in 1994.

pm0ney
02-01-2007, 03:22 PM
I love it when the beats get switched up. I've heard the album versions of all these songs thousands upon thousands of times already. When the new beats kick in it gets the crowd moving, and shows how versatile the Boys are as live performers. It keeps them on their toes. The tracks that recieved the smallest crowd reactions were the TT5B tracks that maintained the same beat throughout. Like in the AIFST dvd (which I attended) when Mike drops "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" during Pass The Mic...thats fucking genious. The older performances with Hurricane as the DJ just dont compare.

M.C. Guevera
02-01-2007, 04:46 PM
There is a Paul's Boutique-like vibe when the sample changes every 20 seconds.

Auton
02-01-2007, 04:54 PM
Bullshitometer? Sorry, I don't go to every Beastie Boys show on their worldwide tour like a groupie. I've only been to one of their shows live (like many of the normal non-message board going fans) and I was quite annoyed like the original poster by every song being changed 20-25 seconds in.

Although I do appreciate you segmenting my entire post into one phrase that you disagree with, followed by a personal attack.

Dick.

I haven't even attended a live show of theirs in the flesh. the only thing i was pointing out was that your comparison made absolutely no sense whatsever. changing the chords to a song while singing the same melody is completely different from rapping over another beat.

Laver1969
02-01-2007, 04:57 PM
There is a Paul's Boutique-like vibe when the sample changes every 20 seconds.

Interesting point. I never really thought of it that way, but I like that notion.

manwich
02-01-2007, 08:56 PM
yo that comment about comparing to PB was tiiight. I never thought of that either but there are definitely some connections there.

Kid Presentable
02-01-2007, 09:56 PM
Cosigning Guevera. I've always thought that, too.

M.C. Guevera
02-02-2007, 01:08 AM
I just wish they'd dive deeper into the vaults for the samples. Part of the fun of Paul's Boutique was figuring out where the old funk and classic rock samples came from. It's not the same when I hear a sample and I know it's "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" 3 seconds in.

I don't know. Maybe I'm more jaded about the mainstream then I thought I was. But hearing the Beasties rhyme over 70's funk is more appealing then hearing them do a song over a J'Kwon beat.

Kid Presentable
02-02-2007, 07:41 AM
When they used to rhyme of Mr. Bigstuff and such.

Laver1969
02-02-2007, 08:41 AM
When they used to rhyme of Mr. Bigstuff and such.

And the Humpty Hump.

cj hood
02-02-2007, 10:38 AM
a good compromise would be only to switch the beats up on the classics.....and not on the trax off the latest album being promoted.....

OPINIONTRON 800
02-02-2007, 10:51 AM
a good compromise would be only to switch the beats up on the classics.....and not on the trax off the latest album being promoted.....
OPINIONTRON DEDUCES THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE BEAT TO CHANGE ON AN OPEN LETTER TO NEW YORK CITY. SPECIFICALLY I AM STILL NUMBER ONE BY KNOWLEDGE REIGNS SUPREME OVER NEARLY EVERYBODY.

OPINIONTRON HAS ALSO USED OTHER VARIABLES BEYOND THE REJECTION REGION OF THE NORMAL DISTRIBUTION TO CALCULATE THAT A CHANGE OF PERCUSSIVE BEATINGS IN THE MIDDLE VERSE OF SOME SONGS AND BACK AGAIN WOULD BE 99% PLEASING TO THE FEEBLE MINDS OF THE PATHETIC HUMAN FANS OF THE BEASTULAR BOYS. EXAMPLE: SURE SHOT FROM THE 1994 CAPITOL/GRAND ROYAL RELEASE ILL COMMUNICATION.

OPINIONTRON IS ALWAYS CORRECT AND WILL NOT BE DISSAPPOINTED WITH THE NEW LONG PLAYING ALBUM

freetibet
02-02-2007, 05:08 PM
OPINIONTRON DEDUCES THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE BEAT TO CHANGE ON AN OPEN LETTER TO NEW YORK CITY. SPECIFICALLY I AM STILL NUMBER ONE BY KNOWLEDGE REIGNS SUPREME OVER NEARLY EVERYBODY.

OPINIONTRON HAS ALSO USED OTHER VARIABLES BEYOND THE REJECTION REGION OF THE NORMAL DISTRIBUTION TO CALCULATE THAT A CHANGE OF PERCUSSIVE BEATINGS IN THE MIDDLE VERSE OF SOME SONGS AND BACK AGAIN WOULD BE 99% PLEASING TO THE FEEBLE MINDS OF THE PATHETIC HUMAN FANS OF THE BEASTULAR BOYS. EXAMPLE: SURE SHOT FROM THE 1994 CAPITOL/GRAND ROYAL RELEASE ILL COMMUNICATION.

OPINIONTRON IS ALWAYS CORRECT AND WILL NOT BE DISSAPPOINTED WITH THE NEW LONG PLAYING ALBUM

Love that.. um.. roboton! (y)

Are robots gay, too?

pshabi
02-02-2007, 10:16 PM
a good compromise would be only to switch the beats up on the classics.....and not on the trax off the latest album being promoted.....
That's basically what he does now.

:confused:

titoratm
02-03-2007, 01:09 PM
MMM is so great, but i hope he could check this threat and know we dont like when he changes the beats at all:cool: peace!

Kid Presentable
02-03-2007, 05:30 PM
Keep changing beats.

pshabi
02-03-2007, 07:41 PM
MMM is so great, but i hope he could check this threat and know we dont like when he changes the beats at all:cool: peace!
Au contraire! I think you're in the minority with that opinion.

CHANGE THE BEAT!

Junker
02-04-2007, 01:07 PM
We could do a poll about this.

titou lapraline
02-04-2007, 02:26 PM
^ Yes!
I'm ready to vote... for mixmaster.
Personnaly, when I go to see a concert, I don't want to hear the
exactly the same thing as on my radio.. I want something original.

ggirlballa
02-04-2007, 02:34 PM
also if you've seen the beastie boys live with mix master mike then you'll probally change your mind, cuz he's awesome when seeing him in person & not just in youtube videos etc


switch the beats!

titou lapraline
02-04-2007, 02:37 PM
also if you've seen the beastie boys live with mix master mike then you'll probally change your mind, cuz he's awesome when seeing him in person & not just in youtube videos etc

who? me?

Friis gal
02-04-2007, 02:40 PM
change is good, aslong it's not to much of a change...

ggirlballa
02-04-2007, 02:41 PM
who? me?


anybody

titou lapraline
02-04-2007, 03:53 PM
anybody

ow..okey...
personnaly I've seen them in 2004, and I can say that mixmaster is just awesome(y)

AndILoveMike!
02-05-2007, 07:58 AM
I don't believe Hurricane worked on PB at all.

oooooh... Well, I don't luv Hurricane at all!

JobDDT
02-05-2007, 09:58 AM
Wow, for a time period where the Beasties were putting out their best music, you guys sure aren't feeling Hurricane.

I'm not saying I dislike TT5B or Hello Nasty, and I don't know if Mix Master Mike even has anything to do with this, but the beats on those albums always sound oversaturated with robotic noises and beats.

Sir SkratchaLot
02-05-2007, 11:20 AM
Wow, for a time period where the Beasties were putting out their best music, you guys sure aren't feeling Hurricane.

I'm not saying I dislike TT5B or Hello Nasty, and I don't know if Mix Master Mike even has anything to do with this, but the beats on those albums always sound oversaturated with robotic noises and beats.

Its important to understand what these DJs do, and do not do.

Hurricane was almost exclusively involved with the live shows. Hurricane was not making the beats or even doing the scratches on LTI through Ill Com. He was not involved much in the studio aspects of the albums. It was Rick Ruben, the Dust Brothers, Adrock, and MCA doing the scratches on those albums, not Hurricane. Most of the beats were a combination of the Beasties with Ruben, the Dust Brothers, and Mario C, depending on the album. When the Beasties went on tour, Hurricane was the show DJ. That was his main role. He is a dope DJ! He's not fancy, but he doesn't make many mistakes.

When Hello Nasty came along, the Beasties started using Mix Master Mike. Mike is more involved in the studio than Hurra was. Mike does a lot of the scratches on Hello Nasty and To the Five Buroughs. Mike is at a very high level with scratching skill. If you read the liner notes, however, he's not that involved with actually making the beats. There are interviews where he says the Hello Nasty beats were already done when he came in to put down scratches on some of the tracks, and do 3 MCs and 1 DJ. I know that all of the Beasties collaborate on the beats but Hello Nasty was a lot of Adrock's beats. I'm not sure on To the Five Buroughs, from the inteviews its sounds like a collaberative effort with Adrock, Mike D, and MCA. The reason the beats sound so "electronic" on To the Five Buroughs is because they were using electronic sounding samples for a lot of sounds rather than sampling funk/soul/jazz records. Regardless, Mix Master Mike is responsible for the scratches but not so much on the actual beats. Compared to Hurra in the live shows, Mike is doing much more difficult moves and that carries a lot of risk with it. There's about 100 times more to mess up because so much is going on. You never know what to expect with Mike.

But anyway, when it comes to the sounds of beats on the albums, that has very little to do with what DJ the Beasties were using. Paul's Boutique sounded the way it did mainly because of the Dust Brothers and Mario C were producing the beats. Mario C and a lot the other extended Beastie family had a lot to do with the way the tracks Check Your Head and Ill Communication sounded. Mix Master Mike and the Hurra are more involved with the live shows.

JobDDT
02-05-2007, 05:24 PM
All I'm saying is, if Hello Nasty and TT5B were the result of MMM in the studio more, maybe they need a less involved DJ like Hurricane so they won't get as many oversaturated robot noises.

Thats just one man's opinion though.

Chicka B
02-05-2007, 08:44 PM
Ahhh I can understand where they're comin from why they switch up the beats and stuff. I read in interviews where they say over and over that it really adds something new to look foward to when performing. I mean, yeah, I'm sure they would get sick of playin the same song all the time for years. And I think it's somethin for us too, I mean we don't want it too predictable! Adds a little spontaniousm (not a word eh?).

Kid Presentable
02-05-2007, 08:51 PM
All I'm saying is, if Hello Nasty and TT5B were the result of MMM in the studio more, maybe they need a less involved DJ like Hurricane so they won't get as many oversaturated robot noises.

Thats just one man's opinion though.
Mike puts scratches down. Wherever you're hearing robot noises, I would think that's the band.

Junker
02-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Ahhh I can understand where they're comin from why they switch up the beats and stuff. I read in interviews where they say over and over that it really adds something new to look foward to when performing. I mean, yeah, I'm sure they would get sick of playin the same song all the time for years. And I think it's somethin for us too, I mean we don't want it too predictable! Adds a little spontaniousm (not a word eh?).

Yeah, but they have changed beats for almost 10 years. All what I'm saying is that they could do more shows with the original beats.

Sir SkratchaLot
02-06-2007, 01:29 PM
All I'm saying is, if Hello Nasty and TT5B were the result of MMM in the studio more, maybe they need a less involved DJ like Hurricane so they won't get as many oversaturated robot noises.

Thats just one man's opinion though.

All I'm saying is, you're blaming Mixmaster Mike when you should be blaming Adrock.