recommend me some shoes

[Bob]

i need shoes, decent-looking casual shoes. not a sneaker. brown, preferably, something that would look good with either khakis or jeans (since those are all i wear, black shoes are out per my understanding)

i don't know what i'm doing with shoes, quite honestly. i just want an average casual shoe, something nice, but not too nice. is it a bad thing if they're shiny? i'd feel weird wearing very shiny shoes every day, but i dunno if that's a faux pas or not, because i don't know anything about shoes

so, all you people who know things about men's shoes, point me in the direction of something to buy, something i could wear to school every day. preferably not much more expensive than $100.

maybe some pants too

and some shirts

[Bob]

no, see, that's the problem, i can't tell good shoes from crap shoes

that's where you come in, i could have done that myself

[TurdBerglar]

just stick to name brands, dude


shit. not that hard

[Bob]

again, that's the problem, i don't know what i'm doing when i buy shoes, so my preference doesn't count for much, i want to go by other people's preference instead

[TurdBerglar]

well do what i do.... spend at least 50 bucks

[Bob]

that's what i was thinking about shiny shoes, yeah. it seems like a bit much for day-to-day wearing

pictures would be nice.

i'm looking around on timberland's website, but i dunno. i think i like some of the stuff, but it seems a bit heavy, too boot-like, but i really wouldn't know. it is timberland though.

what about these?
http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1774613&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135&searchBySize=Y&fDomain=TBLMensFootwear&fCat=1761135&fsize=101378&cp=1779791.1761081&searchId=1761135&categoryId=1761135&fpricesort=priceDescending&parentPage=search
http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2598898&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135&searchBySize=Y&fDomain=TBLMensFootwear&fCat=1761135&fsize=101378&cp=1779791.1761081&searchId=1761135&categoryId=1761135&fpricesort=priceDescending&parentPage=search
http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1775366&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135&searchBySize=Y&fDomain=TBLMensFootwear&fCat=1761135&fsize=101378&cp=1779791.1761081&searchId=1761135&categoryId=1761135&fpricesort=priceDescending&parentPage=search
http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1836199&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135&searchBySize=Y&fDomain=TBLMensFootwear&fCat=1761135&fsize=101378&cp=1779791.1761081&searchId=1761135&categoryId=1761135&fpricesort=priceDescending&parentPage=search

i think they look alright, but then again, i don't think i'd know a crap shoe if it kicked me in the ass, so i dunno, i'm looking for advice. i don't know much about dressing myself

oh, and i'm a size 13, so that limits my options somewhat

[pshabi]

I like Steve Madden.

http://www.stevemadden.com/category.asp?id=145

I've got some that look kinda like the "gammon" but are a couple years old. I like the Klipper there too.

Stay away from shiny.

How about a pic of you in some "everyday" type clothing.

[Yeti]

Bob, I like the fact that you are thinking of Timberlands. I have a pair of Timbs like these but brown... http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2363249&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135.1761154&parentPage=family

They are comfortable and are great for casual dress or chillin.

[befsquire]

mmm (http://www.zappos.com/images/728/7281543/6220-336002-d.jpg), kenneth (http://www.zappos.com/images/728/7281535/5089-335982-d.jpg) cole (http://www.zappos.com/images/725/7251087/3832-278445-d.jpg) reaction (http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7180172/1733-219454-d.jpg)... delicious (http://www.zappos.com/images/721/7215072/1733-219453-d.jpg).

[Drederick Tatum]

http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2363249&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135.1761154&parentPage=family


what the fuck is an "Airport Friendly Nylon Shank"?

[befsquire]

^ good question. typically, a shank is a prison weapon.

[ericlee]

Bob, you seriously want a pair of ass kicking combat boots man. These are my work boots and I just got off work doing a 12 hour shift so, my shine has is kind of dull. I shine them everyday before I go to work though.

Altima (http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2027/dsc000791sq3.jpg)

These are fucking souls (http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9730/dsc000811lw0.jpg)

Shiny happy toes (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8056/dsc000801nw5.jpg)

You want some boots man. You want some MAN boots. Fuck a bunch of Timberlands.

[ericlee]

Bob, I like the fact that you are thinking of Timberlands. I have a pair of Timbs like these but brown... http://www.timberland.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2363249&cp=1779791.1761081.1761135.1761154&parentPage=family

They are comfortable and are great for casual dress or chillin.

These are actually decent. I could see them in brown being nice and I wonder if they make a charcoal grey color.

Just kidding about my boots though. I couldn't see anybody wearing those big ass clod hoppers as casual. Except for maybe...... Mosh Girl.

[b i o n i c]

i think i might trip on something in those... dont yer soles ever snag a crack

[ericlee]

i think i might trip on something in those... dont yer soles ever snag a crack

If you're not used to wearing them, they could possibly snag on some cracks. I wear those damn boots so much that it's like walking barefoot to me though.

The first time I've seen those sole were from a pic of Adrock but I can't remember if I saw it on a T-shirt or a magazine but he's got his sole pointed right at the camera.

[Tone Capone]

get some Lugz, you can never go wrong.

[Bob]

i'm liking these steve madden shoes...i'm sort of leaning to the boarder, the last link ms. crafty posted right now

thanks everyone

[Yeti]

You are choosing Steve Madden over Timberland?

Have fun at the gay bar.

[ScarySquirrel]

I'm a big fan of the Timberlands... I personally have a pair of these suckers and not only are they comfortable, but they're casual and dressy all at the same time.

Check it (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FJ6KVE/ref=wl_it_dp/105-6686229-7788423?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3A2PPENXGW08L&colid=1ZWRG1K8WSKTA). I love these suckers.

[MC Moot]

I got a pair of blacks a copuple of weeks ago...sure call it a beatle boot....but mannnnn they're nice! They fly with a jean or khaki's.....soooo,comfy....(y)

http://www.blundstone.com/product_info.cgi?subpageID=classicslifestyle&sub_categoryID=130277

[Rock]

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/523990/c/1671.html unbelievably comfortable and durable.

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/16417859/c/1232.html

[jabumbo]

I'm a big fan of the Timberlands... I personally have a pair of these suckers and not only are they comfortable, but they're casual and dressy all at the same time.

Check it (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FJ6KVE/ref=wl_it_dp/105-6686229-7788423?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3A2PPENXGW08L&colid=1ZWRG1K8WSKTA). I love these suckers.


i like those, i should get myself a pair

[Dorothy Wood]

OMG, THE SHOES IN HERE ARE SO UGLY I SERIOUSLY FEEL ILL!

slip ons?! ELASTIC?! NOOOOOOOOOOO OHHHH MY GOOOOOODDDDDDD! I'm going to puke, seriously.


I mean, actually, this one that beth posted it alright (http://www.zappos.com/images/725/7251087/3832-278445-d.jpg), and MC Moot's is on the verge of being okay.

I say go for a simple sole. those moulded pieces of shit are so fucking ugly I really, I really really hate them so much that my heart is beating faster just looking at them.


these are kinda cool, maybe a little twee. (http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=11353&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=259&iSubCat=262&iProductID=11353)

BUT, let me look around some more. oh god bob, please don't buy any timberlands. :(

[Yeti]

You and your orange sweatshirt are fashionistas.

[Dorothy Wood]

these aren't half-bad. (http://www.aldoshoes.com/eng/storeSection/redirect.cfm?sectionID=b2c/style/productDetails.cfm&itemID=62607051&&var=d&ckey=US)

I don't like them much, but the chunkier style of them might be better proportioned for your large feet. because if you get too slim of a style, yer feet end up looking like flippers. also, I think they look like a good compromise of style and comfort.

similar, a little more stream-lined, good transitional shoe. (http://www.aldoshoes.com/eng/storeSection/redirect.cfm?sectionID=b2c/style/productDetails.cfm&itemID=63144888&&var=d&ckey=US)

[Yeti]

BUT, let me look around some more. oh god bob, please don't buy any timberlands. :(


Dorothy, I love my Timberlands. I have low cut boots and this loafer...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/AlienAiden/DSC01312.jpg

They are very comfortable and look good with jeans and khakis.

Hey, to each their own. I do own other dress shoes but I am a clotheshorse.

[Rock]

these are kinda cool, maybe a little twee. (http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=11353&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=259&iSubCat=262&iProductID=11353)

Those are horrendous.

[Dorothy Wood]

these pumas are hot. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23137300/c/85524.html) my friend used to work for puma and he had some blue more plain ones like that and he gave some to his grandpa and his grandpa loved them. bridging gaps.

a little too dressy maybe. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/20908585/c/6.html) but see the sitching on the top, that serves to break up the line of the foot so every looks more balanced.

usually I'm not into diesel, but these are pretty cool. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23126619/c/86363.html)

don't let the brand name sway you, rockports are decent shoes, well put-together. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/22247409/c/60721.html)

[Dorothy Wood]

Those are horrendous.

no offense, but sketchers are the most hideous shoes ever produced on this earth. I puke a little in my mouth when I even hear the name.


and I know bob won't get those! they just reminded me of sneaker versions of the kind of dress shoes a 70's lawyer would wear in a cartoon.

[MC Moot]

Those are horrendous.


oh yes...wow.....Vans mate with wing tips.....

[Yeti]

At least they have rubber soles that are good for traction. I imagine people that wear them need to run from bullies trying to steal their pocket protector.

[Dorothy Wood]

Dorothy, I love my Timberlands. I have low cut boots and this loafer...

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/AlienAiden/DSC01312.jpg

They are very comfortable and look good with jeans and khakis.

Hey, to each their own. I do own other dress shoes but I am a clotheshorse.


sorry, but those are really ugly.

I just go for classic. I hate moulded soles. HATE THEM.


BOB, DON'T LISTEN TO THESE MEN!

My fashion opinions are very much respected IRL by men and women, please don't listen to them! :(

[Yeti]

He asked....to wear at the office and with jeans. Classic style Rockports or the other classic hardsoled shoes are too dressy. I do see people wear them with jeans but those same people wear socks with sandals.

My Timbs are not ugly.

[Dorothy Wood]

these aren't half-bad. (http://www.aldoshoes.com/eng/storeSection/redirect.cfm?sectionID=b2c/style/productDetails.cfm&itemID=62607051&&var=d&ckey=US)

I don't like them much, but the chunkier style of them might be better proportioned for your large feet. because if you get too slim of a style, yer feet end up looking like flippers. also, I think they look like a good compromise of style and comfort.



fine, that's why I posted these.


yeti, you cannot convince me that those shoes are not ugly. you are a married man with a baby living in texas. they are fine for you. bob is a young man living free and easy in an east coast college town. I think I have a bit of a better idea about what shoes are going to get him laid.

[Rock]

no offense, but sketchers are the most hideous shoes ever produced on this earth. I puke a little in my mouth when I even hear the name.
none taken.

the only pair of sketchers i have (the first ones i posted minus the seam leading to toe), have lasted me for almost 2 years and as far as a casual work type of shoe....they look and feel nice. No raised heel = bonus.

[Yeti]

yeti, you cannot convince me that those shoes are not ugly. you are a married man with a baby living in texas. they are fine for you. bob is a young man living free and easy in an east coast college town. I think I have a bit of a better idea about what shoes are going to get him laid.

I am sorry that I got involved in this thread. I am quite frankly offended. I am going to put on my Timberlands and take my baby out to eat some pork barbeque. If we aren't too full from the pork we might go rope some cows and listen to some George Strait.

Bob lives in Boston where my wife grew up. I once saw a MIT student having sex with 2 co-eds wearing nothing but his Sketcher loafers.

[Dorothy Wood]

I am sorry that I got involved in this thread. I am quite frankly offended. I am going to put on my Timberlands and take my baby out to eat some pork barbeque. If we aren't too full from the pork we might go rope some cows and listen to some George Strait.

actually those shoes aren't very texas. and the living in texas part wasn't supposed to be offensive. I have family there. they have bad taste in shoes too.

[Yeti]

Ha! I think I should go to my closet and take a photo of all my shoes so I can be judged.

[Dorothy Wood]

nooooooo :( those are even worse. so gay sooo so gay.

also, very cheap-looking. the stitching is awful, the rubber is bleeding onto the leather like smeared poo.

[Yeti]

Dorothy, you made my baby sad!

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/AlienAiden/DSC01318.jpg

[Dorothy Wood]

awww! sorry baby, it's the soles I hate, that's all. the tops aren't too bad. just not my style.

[Dorothy Wood]

well, you guys over there have had that sort of techno trendy look going on for quite some time, so I suppose it seems normal and not as gay-looking as it does here.

[yeahwho]

these pumas are hot. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23137300/c/85524.html) my friend used to work for puma and he had some blue more plain ones like that and he gave some to his grandpa and his grandpa loved them. bridging gaps.

a little too dressy maybe. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/20908585/c/6.html) but see the sitching on the top, that serves to break up the line of the foot so every looks more balanced.

usually I'm not into diesel, but these are pretty cool. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23126619/c/86363.html)

don't let the brand name sway you, rockports are decent shoes, well put-together. (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/22247409/c/60721.html)

The Pumas and Rockports are great shoes, I can walk around town all day in them. The diesel' shoe is always very cool looking, I'll probably never buy a pair again because the one pair I have hurt my feet.

For everyday brown shoes under $100, go with Rockports. Timberland is an extremely close second. Merrell (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bennettsclothing.com/merrell_passport_redwood.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.bennettsclothing.com/mens_merrell_footwear.htm&h=340&w=500&sz=70&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=GQVKtve9z3todM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMerrell%2B%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26s a%3DG) is right up there too.

Italian Leather shoes (http://www.italianmoda.com/italian-shoes.htm) dominate the upper end of cool, pretty spendy but they last forever and are usually very comfortable.

I'm a shoe nut, I always have a pair in a box at home new and ready to go.

[Dorothy Wood]

I like these rockports (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/22437861/c/103908.html)

[Bob]

damn you dorothy, i was so close to getting an idea of a consensus and you had to come in here and disagree with everything :mad:

to be honest though, i wasn't sure i really liked the look of the molded shoes or whatever they're called, but everyone else seemed to and my own taste in shoes has been getting me nowhere so i figured hey

stupid shoes, why can't we be hobbits

[Dorothy Wood]

damn you dorothy, i was so close to getting an idea of a consensus and you had to come in here and disagree with everything :mad:

to be honest though, i wasn't sure i really liked the look of the molded shoes or whatever they're called, but everyone else seemed to and my own taste in shoes has been getting me nowhere so i figured hey

stupid shoes, why can't we be hobbits

well, I'm the only one to listen to. I am taking this seriously and taking into account your lifestyle, age, and foot size. also, I am very cool. :cool:

[Bob]

so yeah i mean i think it was kind of these styles of shoes that i had in my mind

http://www.aldoshoes.com/eng/storeSection/redirect.cfm?sectionID=b2c/style/productDetails.cfm&itemID=62607051&&var=d&ckey=US

http://www.aldoshoes.com/eng/storeSection/redirect.cfm?sectionID=b2c/style/productDetails.cfm&itemID=63144888&&var=d&ckey=US

i dunno, i don't think i've ever owned a shoe without laces before, that almost feels too wacky for me. but are they in? i guess i could try that, and i AM tired of my laces coming untied

i guess i'm looking for law student shoes, whatever those are

[Bob]

well, I'm the only one to listen to. I am taking this seriously and taking into account your lifestyle, age, and foot size. also, I am very cool. :cool:

are you taking into account the fact that i envy hobbits? because that's important

[Dorothy Wood]

ALDO
The Corner Mall
Boston
MA, US 02108
617.357.6891

ALDO
180 Newbury Street
Boston
MA, US 02116
617.266.0501


I say keep it simple. go for a nice rich brown, something classic that is well made. slip on shoes can be okay, but don't fall for trends. I wouldn't suggest buying shoes online, you should go try them on and stuff. Kenneth Cole isn't too bad, they usually have those in malls. I suppose you could go to a department store and ask for help. tell them you want classy and stylish. ask a girl to help you. not a hippie!

[Dorothy Wood]

are you taking into account the fact that i envy hobbits? because that's important

oh, well, here then. (http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/)

[Bob]

SCORE

hello, new me

[saz]

i'm not sure how much they are in the states, but you can't go wrong with a pair of clarks (http://wisefeet.com/clarkspic/wallabeebootm.jpg) wallabees (http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7189114/985-15055-d.jpg), perfect for the office or school. they are dope and gareth will back me up on this.

a lot of the shoes posted in this thread are kinda dorky.

[Dorothy Wood]

it's not a center of fashion, there are plenty of dorks to go around, but it's a major city with lots of fashionable people. I get my fashion sense from my gut, not my surroundings anyway.

I'm just sayin', I work with homos in a homo neighborhood and those kind of shoes are running rampant.

I'm not trying to start a fight, different things are popular in different places. the type of shoes I'm trying to pick out for Bob should be timeless. not something he'll look back at in 5-10 years and think, "yuck, I wore those?!"

although, by then he'll have bionic feet.

[marsdaddy]

Clarks and Bostonian are made by the same company. I usually get a new pair every 6 months at the outlet.

[Dorothy Wood]

bostonians are pretty hot.

the russell (http://bostonian.zappos.com/n/p/dp/16240932/c/216.html)

boring, but good-looking.

[Bob]

bostonians are pretty hot.

the russell (http://bostonian.zappos.com/n/p/dp/16240932/c/216.html)

boring, but good-looking.

i like it, i like it a lot actualy, but they don't have it in a 13, at least not on the site

i actually have a pair of bostonians, but they're my dress shoes. very shiny.

i made a thread about them once actually

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=73817

here are the shoes i'm currently wearing

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5416/img0091tv2.jpg

the brown ones, not the sambas

i don't dislike them, they're comfortable and i like the look, but i hate the laces. also they smell terrible. i've only had them for less than a month and already my feet stink by the end of the day whenever i wear them. i can't explain it. usually my shoes last much longer than that before they start to stink.

anyway that's why i need new shoes, because these ones smell bad

[Dorothy Wood]

ah ha! I took you for a topsiders man, I almost posted some but I didn't want to assume. those are pretty classic. sorry they stink. :( maybe you should wear socks?

these are very nice! (http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/3006683/c/28.html) they have good reviews too. also, they're meant to get wet and stuff, so maybe they breathe a bit better. and they go up to size 14 and come in different widths!

I'm getting way too into this.

I think I might like those shoes enough to get some. me and my dad used to have shoes just like that when I was a little. we also wore lacoste polo shirts and OP shorts. no joke. my dad was magnum P.I. order me a size 7 please and thank you.

[marsdaddy]

Your Bostonians story reminds me there is nothing worse than an ill fitting pair of shoes. You might want to invest in a shoe stretcher, or donate those and get a pair that fit.

This is a good looking shoe. (http://rckp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p897517dt.jpg)

If you go to a site and search all styles by size, you'll limit your selection, Bigfoot!

[Dorothy Wood]

those shoes are hideous.

they're like old man shoes.

why on earth would shoes like that require laces? And...what's the deal with all those little metal hole things?

I don't get it.

hmph. THEY ARE CLASSICS! look at that structure! look at the stitching! the richness of the leather and the tone of the sole!

whatever, I'm getting them and I'm gonna wear them and people are gonna be like, "what the? wait a minute, those shoes rule! are you going sailing later?! awesome!" and I'll be like :cool:

I mean, bob will. what?


mars, those are a decent shape, but I don't much care for that waxy dull finish. it seems kinda 90's and prone to scuffage. I had some mary jane docs with a finish like that in high school and they were a doozy to keep looking nice.

[Gareth]

i'm not sure how much they are in the states, but you can't go wrong with a pair of clarks (http://wisefeet.com/clarkspic/wallabeebootm.jpg) wallabees (http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7189114/985-15055-d.jpg), perfect for the office or school. they are dope and gareth will back me up on this.

wally's are a good shoe
endorsed by me, sazi and ghostface

[Rock]

http://ipath.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=cats

probably the best shoe that can pass at work and for physical activity.
Although they may not get the Dorothy Wood stamp of approval....you won't regret them.

[Yeti]

Go bowling and leave with the shoes. The end.

[Dorothy Wood]

http://ipath.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=cats

probably the best shoe that can pass at work and for physical activity.
Although they may not get the Dorothy Wood stamp of approval....you won't regret them.

those are fine, cool dudes wear those kinds of shoes. I never really cared too much for that style when it first came out, but I've come around to it in recent years. I like this one. (http://ipath.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=3CAT20-SADL&Category_Code=cats)

although I think the style sazi and gareth endorse is a little more classic for bob.

[yeahwho]

If your going to school in Boston sometimes you can get pegged into just another schlep trying to get along without anyone noticing. I would err on the adventurous side if I were you Bob and perhaps enjoy your college years, maybe get a little action on the side, if you know what i mean.

These shoes can make it happen. (http://www.motorcowboy.com/category/kissboots/)

[Dr Deaf]

i stumbled upon these (http://media.kohls.com.edgesuite.net/is/image/kohls/197726?wid=400&hei=400&op_sharpen=1) last time me and the fam were at kohl's. no idea why they caught my attention or why i even considered buying them, but i still think about them. at $50 they're a steal. i just know they'd look killer with my suit.

oh you wanted brown (http://media.kohls.com.edgesuite.net/is/image/kohls/181219_Dark_Brown?wid=400&hei=400&op_sharpen=1). $54 out the fucking door.

[Dr Deaf]

Echewta's cool as all get out. You haven't heard?

[HEIRESS]

fuck shoes, its all about those socks

[Dorothy Wood]

I think khakis mean something different here. they can be dressy.

khakis (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B7QZE2.16._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS260_.jpg)

[Bob]

i'm not sure how much they are in the states, but you can't go wrong with a pair of clarks (http://wisefeet.com/clarkspic/wallabeebootm.jpg) wallabees (http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7189114/985-15055-d.jpg), perfect for the office or school. they are dope and gareth will back me up on this.

a lot of the shoes posted in this thread are kinda dorky.

people keep saying these are good....really? those? god i must have no fashion sense at all because no offense, but i think those look ridiculous. like a combination between a slipper and one of those plastic cast things they give you to wear over your foot when you break it and you're on crutches.

and a little like clogs, too

i don't like them at all, but everyone else does? nuts!

[befsquire]

i guess i'm looking for law student shoes, whatever those are
see, this is why i chose my particular links. dorothy wouldn't know what law school student shoes are. i do. also, i was trying to stick with the whole getting away from tennis shoes thing.

i will say this -- if everyone agrees on one thing and one person vehemently denies any value to something everyone else suggests, based on links that you posted of a style you were looking into, how is the one person suddenly right and everyone else is wrong?

[befsquire]

whatever, I'm getting them and I'm gonna wear them and people are gonna be like, "what the? wait a minute, those shoes rule! are you going sailing later?! awesome!" and I'll be like :cool:

are you going to do the laces so it's two spirals instead of a loop? that's what we always did. BACK IN THE 80'S.

[Bob]

over here, these (http://www.topman.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=17551&storeId=12555&categoryId=38989&parent_category_rn=38987&productId=207690&langId=-1) are what we think when we talk about khakis



ahhh, we call those cargo pants. i do not wear cargo pants.

anymore.

[Dorothy Wood]

are you going to do the laces so it's two spirals instead of a loop? that's what we always did. BACK IN THE 80'S.


duh, of course. hey, I told you my dad and I used to wear those shoes. in the 80's. I'm old enough and had enough wits about me to remember what fashion was like.


also, I agreed with your shoes being good, I just thought they were kinda fancy. Kenneth Cole makes a decent shoe. your style's a little more slick and expensive-looking than most people I think or bob, in this case. and I know what law students wear, I went to college. and I've lived in different regions of the U.S., I've been to different countries. I aced a history of western dress class. I've always been known for my inherent sense of style, going all the way back to elementary school.


nobody's even considering bob here, really. you're all just putting what kind of shoes you like. no offense. it's a part of my job to assess people's tastes and choose what will best suit them. I can tell by a woman's purse what she'll like and approximately how much she'll spend. I turned my ex's wardrobe around and taught him how to do his hair better and he still thanks me to this day. and I still cut his hair.

I guess my point is: I AM ALL KNOWING.


*close thread*

[befsquire]

i also had corduroy (i can't spell it and i'm not looking it up; sue me) op shorts. i loved those damn things.

i'm not saying you don't know fashion (though sometimes your style is a little eclectic) and i'm not saying you didn't go to college. but law school is a little different, and i'm just trying to get bob some shoes that can be worn with jeans, business casual, or even with a suit. i went with multipurpose.

i did go to a bit of a snotty law school though, so that could be where the slick and expensive part comes in. the parking lot was pretty much porsche, mercedes, lexus, bmw and cadillac SUVs. a car thief's wet dream.

[kaiser soze]

if you need more options check out Doc Marten's

Also try Diesel and Pony who have a similar look now

[Yeti]

i don't think yeti's shoes are ugly, he's married = with a life partner, that should suggest that he can't be dressing that badly.


Yeah!
I suggest that Bob get a pair of these blue suedes in a larger size.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/AlienAiden/Bubby.jpg

........or these for the club.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.magicmakers.com/retail/clown%2520stuff/shoesredyellow.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.magicmakers.com/retail/clown%2520stuff/shoesblueyellow.html&h=303&w=522&sz=23&tbnid=AyRQN9Mha9zo7M:&tbnh=76&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclown%2Bshoes%2Bphotos&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3

[cosmo105]

two words


ben

sherman

[Dorothy Wood]

i also had corduroy (i can't spell it and i'm not looking it up; sue me) op shorts. i loved those damn things.

i'm not saying you don't know fashion (though sometimes your style is a little eclectic) and i'm not saying you didn't go to college. but law school is a little different, and i'm just trying to get bob some shoes that can be worn with jeans, business casual, or even with a suit. i went with multipurpose.

i did go to a bit of a snotty law school though, so that could be where the slick and expensive part comes in. the parking lot was pretty much porsche, mercedes, lexus, bmw and cadillac SUVs. a car thief's wet dream.


I have a red corduroy OP purse that my mom gave me. it looks like a pair of shorts, heh. I used to take it to the beach.

my personal style is ridiculous, I'm not about to say I look good all the time, but I know what is good. I hi5'ed you on ralph lauren and all. you are a classy chick, no doubt. again (y) to the kenneth cole, truly. when first replying to this thread, your choices were the only ones that didn't make me want to vomit.


and ms. crafty, you wanna go? you wanna step to this? seriously. apparently you have no sense of irony. I paid $2 for that sweater. I'd only ever wear it to an ugly sweater party. grow up. I jumped on your post because the shoes you linked to were of shitty quality and VERY trendy. smeared glue, poor stitching...just awful. and so expensive! that's the kind of shit you'd throw away in 6 months. and yeah, 30+ year old married guys are usually at the height of fashion. :rolleyes:

(no offense yeti, again, I just hate moulded soles...but I love babies and your house. good taste in houses, that guy.)

[Gareth]

shoes that go with jeans shouldnt be worn with suits, should they?
i'm no fashion guru, but i would never do that.
then again, i was never a fan of what the fashion that law fags took too.

[befsquire]

no, but for school purposes where you have to dress in a suit at times, it'd be nice for him to have one pair of shoes instead of 3.

[Gareth]

fair enough
hmm maybe bob should just go to some shop that looks reputable and ask the shop assistant.

[befsquire]

yeah, bob should totally stop listening to people on the internet.

bob: go to several stores and try on what appeals to you that's in your budget. then go home. whatever pair keeps coming into your head are the shoes you should buy.

<3,
beth

[Bob]

i did that last time and i ended up with the ones i posted

[OPINIONTRON 800]

OPINIONTRON CONCLUDES THAT USER BOB IS BEYOND HELP FROM FEMALES ABOUT WHAT TO WEAR AS A MALE. OPINIONTRON DEDUCES THAT FEMALES APPLY FASHION RULES AND CRITERIA BASED SOLELY ON THEIR OWN TASTES AND FORSAKE THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUAL. IN ALL CASES FEMALES DRESS DOLLS

THE FASHION TASTES OF USERS DOROTHY WOOD AND SPINSTER/UNMARRIED CRAFTY ARE BOTH INAPPROPRIATE FRAMES OF REFERENCE.

OPINIONTRON IS FUNDAMENTALLY ONLY ABLE TO RECOMMEND A THOROUGH SAND-BLASTING FOLLOWED BY ACRYLIC PRIMER AND METALLIC SILVER PAINT.

OPINIONTRON IS ALWAYS CORRECT.

[Dorothy Wood]

are you saying that once men reach the age of 30 they lose all sense of style? and that there aren't any fashionable men who are 30+?

and now that i know what you guys mean by khakis, i wouldn't go for any of the shoes that i chose because they wouldn't look right.

i'm never said that i know all, i would never be that arrogant


well, I'm arrogant enough. men 30+ right now are from a different generation than bob, that's all I'm saying.

I'm done with this. I don't respect your point of view and your explanations are wordy, yet vague. you're just not open to the fact that styles are different around the world, and that perhaps I have a little better frame of reference for my ideas as they pertain to bob's footwear.

[skra75]

i need shoes, decent-looking casual shoes. not a sneaker. brown, preferably, something that would look good with either khakis or jeans (since those are all i wear, black shoes are out per my understanding)preferably not much more expensive than $100.

Buy Clarks Wallabees. I love those things. Good, honest shoes they are.

[skra75]

Don't buy:

Sketchers
Diesel Shoes
Bostonians
PF Flyers
Sketchers
Prada Shoes
Pointed Toed Men's boots (it doesn't matter what anyone says, they aren't cool)
Sketchers

[skra75]

and yeah, 30+ year old married guys are usually at the height of fashion. :rolleyes:

BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I consider myself to be pretty much the pinnacle of Fine Menswear, I'm shocked and appalled.

Also, I consider a vast majority of "counter culture" 25 to 30 YO men who aren't married to be mostly:

a) really fucking sad emo guys with bad taste
b) people who try to rock facial hair and can't pull it off
c) exceedingly self absorbed with way too much free time, therefore, unable to understand the meaning of Fine Style.

[abcdefz]

I'm a big fan of the Timberlands... I personally have a pair of these suckers and not only are they comfortable, but they're casual and dressy all at the same time.

Check it (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FJ6KVE/ref=wl_it_dp/105-6686229-7788423?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3A2PPENXGW08L&colid=1ZWRG1K8WSKTA). I love these suckers.


I have a pair of those! How funny.

[Gareth]

Buy Clarks Wallabees. I love those things. Good, honest shoes they are.

three and a half votes for the wallys, how can you say no now?

[saz]

people keep saying these are good....really? those? god i must have no fashion sense at all because no offense, but i think those look ridiculous. like a combination between a slipper and one of those plastic cast things they give you to wear over your foot when you break it and you're on crutches.

and a little like clogs, too

i don't like them at all, but everyone else does? nuts!


that's because you're a dork ;)

okay but seriously, i used to think the same thing as you stated. then, i went and tried on a few pairs, and then i realized that they look really good, and are incredibly comfortable. they go well with khakis and jeans, hence why i suggested them for both the office and casual wear.

regardless, just get whatever you like. but they are great shoes.

[Dorothy Wood]

BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I consider myself to be pretty much the pinnacle of Fine Menswear, I'm shocked and appalled.

Also, I consider a vast majority of "counter culture" 25 to 30 YO men who aren't married to be mostly:

a) really fucking sad emo guys with bad taste
b) people who try to rock facial hair and can't pull it off
c) exceedingly self absorbed with way too much free time, therefore, unable to understand the meaning of Fine Style.


hey hey hey! you have great style, nobody's doubting that. I wish you would've popped in here earlier. I made that married guy statement when I was way drunk after a Queers show last night, all that whiskey and punk rock angst made me a little sassier than normal.

you also have to admit that you have more style than most guys around. right? right.

[Dorothy Wood]

if you think about it, most of the top name designers, male and female are 30+ and they are the ones who set the trends for people all over the world, and then high street stores copy the trends to sell to the general public.

you think your opinion is better than everyone elses because your friends are always complimenting the way you dress? you're not the only person to get compliments. you pride yourself on being 'scenester' and that you only respect the opinions of like minded people, you only make friends with/make time for people who are like minded i.e like the same music, same clothes, hang out at the same places and same interests as you. when you disagree with someone's opinion, you lose the respect you had for them. because you think you 'know all'.

you think your opinion is better than everyone else here because you went to college to study fashion? well i had a friend who worked as a freelance stylist for several top fashion magazines here. her job was to dress and prepare models for the magazines' photoshoots and the pictures would feature in those magazines. she did this for several years, but she studied journalism at uni, so that's proof enough that you don't necessarily need to have a degree in fashion or design to know a thing about style. she loved it and only stopped doing the stylist job and worked in PR because there was more money to be made in PR.

my explanations maybe wordy but what else, if not words, are you expecting? this is an internet message board. london has a population of over 7 million residents and is very diverse in culture, race, religions, class, etc. not only that but it is also one of the most popular places for tourists from all over the world, so i don't need to live in other countries to appreciate different styles. that's why i said that there's nothing wrong with any of the shoes posted on here because i know that there will be people from other parts of the world who would be wearing them. i didn't sit in a class room to learn about fashion but i did work in a fashion store (topshop/topman in oxford circus) and got my experience there. now that is a high street chain store, but it was the flagship store - meaning it was the biggest of that chain and whatever sells well in that store would be sold in all the other smaller stores within that chain. it is the biggest store in that chain but, i don't know if it is anymore, but it was also the largest fashion store in the world, located in the heart of the busiest high street in the world. the designer flag ship stores are located in Bond Street, New Bond Street, Sloane Street, Knightsbridge and King's Road, which are all within walking distance. the London College of Fashion was a minutes walk away from where i worked and a few roads down is St Martins' College (where Stella McCartney and a few other designers studied and graduated from) which is why we had quite a few staff members who were students from those colleges. that branch of topshop employs several hundreds of staff because it attracts thousands of customers through their doors every single day of the year, with the exception of christmas day. it attracts that many people because of its location and size it catered for lots of different styles from office wear, to evening wear, casual wear to sports wear, not only did they sell their own label clothing but they had clothes from smaller/lesser known labels which range everything from vintage clothing to cyber/club gear. there would be several deliveries of clothes and plenty of new lines delivered everyday because stock would sell out that fast and they won't make money if people can't find their size, people from all walks of life buy clothes there, celebrities that came in and wanted clothing would get the clothes free of charge and not just people who live in london because there's always so many tourists from different countries. each floor was divided into areas and each area would be allocated clothes according to it's department, on one floor you would find casual trousers, casual skirts, casual jackets, t-shirts, denim in one area, lingerie, nightwear would be on another and dresses, formal skirts, formal trousers, formal shirts, formal jackets and shoes in the other area. on another floor you would find all the concession labels selling all their clothes and on the other floor is where all the accessories are, belts, bags, hair accessories, mobile phones, sunglasses, jewelley, watches, etc. I can't remember every single department they had but i've listed most of them. they also pay up and coming new designers to design an exclusive range for them to sell and they've had Essesuals hairdressers (the sister branch of Toni & Guy), a nail bar and beauty therapy salon within the store. i didn't just work on the tills, i also worked in the fitting rooms, the exchange and refunds department, and on the shop floor and stock room, information desk and customer accounts. the last four years i was there, i worked exclusively on the shop floor because i preferred it, i hated standing behind a till because it was boring and repetitive. working on the shop floor meant that i could collect new lines that came in and merchandise them, meaning that i had to find a suitable place for them in the shop. some fashion store would employ merchandisers to do their merchandising and only that, but in topshop allowed the supervisors and/or trusted member of staff to do that. areas would have to remerchandise clothes everyday because some styles would sell faster than others and you had to go by what stock you had in the store, different clothes for different fixtures and fittings, the whole area would have each department flowing in the direction, so as you walk through the area, each department would look like it's gradually changing in style before it changes to a different department. all new lines and best sellers would have to be placed in a prominent part of the department it belonged to. although it wasn't in my job description, i had to talk to the distribution department, talk to the buyers, sent out to look in the other shops along the street and report back what they're selling and where they place what style of clothes and so on, footages, audits, training new staff, overseeing staff when my managers were too busy gossiping and be at certain meetings for managers. they make millions in profit every year and when fashion magazines do their fashion awards, topshop are usually the winners of the best high street award for style and value for money. their target market is for the teens to 35s and catered for not only the desperately fashionable people but also the people who are only comfortable wearing one style

i was there full-time 5-6 days a week for six years so i've seen plenty of different trends come and go and which trends stay and which ones always making a come back. so when i say i can appreciate different styles, i mean it. because i was frequently going to and fro to the stock room i knew what clothes were being sold in menswear too.


I don't have a fashion degree. and no matter how much you try to explain yourself, you're wrong. the thing is, I know all that stuff about top shop. I know about london, I've been there. you probably know very little about america. and that fact that the majority of americans can't afford to go overseas means that all the tourists you see are a very small sample of our population.

your second paragraph is very wrong. my friends vary greatly in their ethnicity, size, style and taste. the thing is, they're cool and if I say, "gross, I hate your shoes, [friend]", they'll say, "fuck you jerk". and I'll say, "dork" and they'll say, "I love you". one of my best friends is a pastor's wife who loves country music. she dresses horribly! but we're still friends.

that 30+ comment was flippant, you're taking it way to fucking seriously. you're taking all of this too seriously. it's not my fault you're deluded.

and based on this, any and all comments you have about fashion become null and void. (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=62662)

NO OFFENSE

[Bob]

that's because you're a dork ;)

okay but seriously, i used to think the same thing as you stated. then, i went and tried on a few pairs, and then i realized that they look really good, and are incredibly comfortable. they go well with khakis and jeans, hence why i suggested them for both the office and casual wear.

regardless, just get whatever you like. but they are great shoes.

maybe i should give in and try them, i dunno. they just look so...odd!

regardless, it's definitely new shoe time, these motherfuckers stink. i'm going back to the sambas until i find something better, i can't understand why they smell so bad! i've only had them for like a month, and i've been wearing clean, nice socks with them every day. washing my feet as per usual, only walking around with them, i don't know why they smell so awful. it usually takes waaaay longer for my shoes to start to smell. my sambas smell better, and i've had those for like 6 months at least

[Bob]

no i'm enjoying the shoe bitch-fight

[Bob]

alright, i'm about 10 minutes away from these clarks wallabees, i'm just intrigued now

i think i might have to buy em online though, i don't know if i've ever seen them in stores

i'm not keen on the boot though, i think i'd rather get the oxford. but the fact that i'm keen on it immediately raises a red flag in my mind, because i don't know what i'm doing with shoes, that's why i made this thread, so i'll ask here first; do only losers buy the oxfords?

i dunno, i'm just not a boot guy, i wouldn't think

[Bob]

furthermore to my last question, another one;

http://clarkswallabees.com/mens_product/wallox.htm

brown oily, or beeswax? fuck sand suede, i don't like it

[Kid Presentable]

furthermore to my last question, another one;

http://clarkswallabees.com/mens_product/wallox.htm

brown oily, or beeswax? fuck sand suede, i don't like it
Those Beast-like Boys wear them in AIFST, and Ghostface too. That's good enough for me to want you to buy them. Any of them.

[saz]

furthermore to my last question, another one;

http://clarkswallabees.com/mens_product/wallox.htm

brown oily, or beeswax? fuck sand suede, i don't like it

well, i wear beeswax wallabees. i find that the beeswax isn't too dark, unlike the brown oily. i actually really like and originally wanted the sand suede, but was apprehensive about buying them, only because i figured they'd get completely destroyed in the rain. but now that i've got more money to throw around, i might grab a pair, strictly for the summer. but yeah, if i were you, i'd try to find a store that sells oxfords, to see how they fit and look.

man, clarks are much cheaper in the states.

[Dorothy Wood]

furthermore to my last question, another one;

http://clarkswallabees.com/mens_product/wallox.htm

brown oily, or beeswax? fuck sand suede, i don't like it

I kind of like the tone of the beeswax ones, but the oily ones might hold up better to the elements. ooh bob, but look at these! (http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=26810&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=259&iSubCat=1005&iProductID=26810)


underage girlie, like I said, I'm just trying to be a problem-solver here. the shoes I'm picking for bob are practical and durable, classic shapes, nothing trendy. If I were picking shoes that I really liked and wished bob would wear, they'd ALL be sneakers/tennis shoes/gym shoes. or like 60's style mod boots. but bob isn't that guy. he's boston law school guy. east coast classic is the way to go for him. I should know, after all, I am his fake internet ex-girlfriend.

also, I don't post full outfits of mine on here...I'm not sure how you have formed such a strong opinion of my dressing style. but, whatever.

[Bob]

well, i wear beeswax wallabees. i find that the beeswax isn't too dark, unlike the brown oily. i actually really like and originally wanted the sand suede, but was apprehensive about buying them, only because i figured they'd get completely destroyed in the rain. but now that i've got more money to throw around, i might grab a pair, strictly for the summer. but yeah, if i were you, i'd try to find a store that sells oxfords, to see how they fit and look.

man, clarks are much cheaper in the states.

alright, yeah, i was leaning towards the beeswax. i kind of like the darker color that brown oily has, but it looks a little too much like an alligator for my tastes.

I should know, after all, I am his fake internet ex-girlfriend.


all i need to do now is find a way for you to cut my hair over the internet

[Dorothy Wood]

im in ur internet, cuttin ur hares.



edit: yes, rabbits.

[befsquire]

look what you've done, bob! you took a mundane topic and turned member against member.

whodathunk shoes would be this hotly debated? it would appear that shoes are the new abortion.

:)

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah see, that's just like rude because you're not even citing examples.

I don't even know what you dress like, so that's double rude. whatever, I am wearing my lacoste track jacket today and it rules and I don't care if you don't like it! NOT FOR SALE!

also, there's no seeming, and I don't have an air. my suggestions are the best. it's a fact. scientifically proven. I've distilled every shoe in the world using various stages of heat and pressure, the best ones precipitate to the bottom of the shoe distilling apparatus and are then collected by me. the vapors left over turn into poop.

:o

[Randetica]

bob just buy some damn shoes to end this drama

[Rock]

The Clarks or the I-Paths.

The I-paths are more comfy...but the clarks (comfy to a lesser degree) will probably last longer.

[Dorothy Wood]

alright ms. crafty, I suppose growing up watching loads of BBC doesn't make me an expert in LONDON and all its fucking fantastic ever-changing and evolving nature. my point was that YOU pretty much know nothing about where I live. I can spot a european in a crowd. it's like a game, I'll say to my friend, "look at that guy, I'll bet he's british", or "I'll bet she's german", and then sneak up close to the person and listen to hear them talk. and 95% of the time, I'm right. and they're not wearing tweed or lederhosen. there are just subtle differences in the cut of pants, the fabrics, the colors people choose to wear. it's all some form of western dress, but there are tiny differences indicative of where the people came from.

so whatever, you chose to turn this into a personal attack on me because I called your shoes gay. let's agree to disagree. I'm just saying, I'm the best. just deal with it. seriously, if I only had a passing knowledge of bob and his interests, I could choose a shoe for him. besides the photographic evidence of the clothing he chooses to wear, he likes monty python, the office, the simpsons. these shows all have a very classic and simple aesthetic and have been around and enjoyed for generations (okay, maybe not the office yet, but it will be).

bah, I have to go to work. this is stupid.


SCIENCE!

[Yeti]

I want Ms Crafty and Dorothy to apply for Project Runway. The ratings would be great and I would tune in to watch them fight over the last yard of chenille fabric.

[Dorothy Wood]

dude, all of this is for comedic purposes.

I was being sarcastic with the BBC comment. I love england! and I think london IS pretty fucking fantastic.

I'm kind of a jerk, don't take everything so personally. sheesh.

[Yeti]

All this because Bob can't dress himself.

[beastiegirrl101]

I can vouch for Dorothy's style. Last party of hers I went to she had on a wedding dress with a red belt! WOOT!

bob, you're one of my board crushes too.

[b i o n i c]

she had on a wedding dress with a red belt! WOOT!



thats fucking great.

[skra75]

I own two pair, oiled brown hi-cuts and all black lo-cuts.

I bought the all black ones in San Diego bc I had to go to a dress-code dance club with ba01 (I shit you not) and I didn't have a pair of shoes that weren't white-soled sneakers in my suitcase (Adidas Gazelles, Puma Baskets, Pro-keds hi-tops, Converse all-star).
I freaking love those things now, easily one of the best pair I own.

Keep the little Clarks leather taggy thingy on there and look 2x fresh.
I lost mine on the hi-cut brown ones. :(

[Randetica]

All this because Bob can't dress himself.

lol

[abcdefz]

Personally, Bob, I think this would've made a beautiful opportunity for you.

there's probably some girl you like, right? Tell her you're helpless when buying shoes and ask her to go with you.(y)

[Bob]

yeah but then she'd have to get near my feet

i just found out my sambas kinda smell now too, just from being old

everywhere i go i have to have stinky feet now :(

i should make some smelly friends to disguise myself.

anyway i did something dumb and ordered the beeswax wallabees over the internet, i don't like shoe stores

i can always return them by lying and saying that i've never worn them

i am very much looking forward to getting them though

[Planetary]

lol @ all dorothy wood's dorky indie hippie shoes.

get some real shoes man! (http://www.drmarten.com/dmimage/dm146011004.jpg)

[Dorothy Wood]

lol @ all dorothy wood's dorky indie hippie shoes.

get some real shoes man! (http://www.drmarten.com/dmimage/dm146011004.jpg)

I didn't put up any hippie shoes! :mad: please! re: docs: let's hold off on the whole 90's rehash for a couple more years please. although, I still have 3 pair in my closet, I'm not ready to wear them again until at least 2010.

plus, the kiwis already won the bob shoes contest.

[Planetary]

i had goth boots lined up next though. GOTH BOOTS!

i wasnt being particularly serious with my doc martins sugestion either. i just thought id put them cause theyre fun for wearing down sliding around on ice :)

just go with these, straight up. im sure dorothy will agree. (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dbaxo/roman_sandals3.gif)

[Bob]

looks like something out of silent hill

i gotta have em

[befsquire]

you know what, bob? fuck all this. just buy me some fucking shoes and end all the hostility.

[Randetica]

im still wearing my 12 year old doc martins

not quite my style anymore but poor people have to wear whats there

ugly but they last long

[skra75]

yeah but then she'd have to get near my feet

i just found out my sambas kinda smell now too, just from being old

everywhere i go i have to have stinky feet now :(

i should make some smelly friends to disguise myself.


Scrub your feet every night with peppermint stuff from Bath and Body works. Trust me it works.
Wear socks all the time, and change them each day.
Also, who the shoes aren't in use, buy cedar-pine-balls (at target or something) and keep them in your shoes.
Also, you need more shoes, it sounds liek you wear the same pair everyday.

You should own at least 5 pairs and rotate through them.

[Bob]

yeah, i just discovered that it's not the shoes after all, it's the socks! or at least, my feet's reaction to my socks. when i bought the shoes, i bought some new socks to go with them. I assumed that it was the new shoes that smelled, but i wore the new socks with some older shoes today (that don't stink, because i wore old socks with them too, and they were fine), and BAM, smellsville. i guess they're just very hot socks, they make my feet sweat. gross

i'll try skra's advice, it sounds good

[Bob]

the wallabees came today

that's a comfortable shoe, whoa

the soles are amazing. they're so soft, each step is like walking on a cloud. they're very quiet shoes too, i can barely hear my own footsteps.

they have very nice traction, as well, which is good for me right now, because it's icy as hell out there. the shoes came just in time.

might just get the boots eventually, too