What if the Beastie Boys Saved Hip-Hop?

[BeastieAlbum07]

I mean, this sounds really wild, but it could certainly happen.

The Beastie Boys were an integal part of making hip-hop mainstream back in the 80s.

Licensed to Ill was classic.

With hip-hop facing troubling times, and a new Beastie Boys album on the horizon, could they save it?

I can feel a classic album coming, and maybe a rejuvination of hip-hop.

Talk about solidifying a legacy...

[cj hood]

they could do it......if they chose to.....

[BeastieAlbum07]

they could do it......if they chose to.....

I really wish they would...

It would be great.

I am listening to Paul's Boutique and Licensed to Ill right now.

Classic stuff, and an album like LTI could save hip-hop.

[Kid Presentable]

I really wish they would...

It would be great.

I am listening to Paul's Boutique and Licensed to Ill right now.

Classic stuff, and an album like LTI could save hip-hop.
You're setting yourself up, man.

[BeastieAlbum07]

You're setting yourself up, man.

How?

I like their hip-hop, and I also like Sabotage.

But, I like thier hip-hop the most.

[Kid Presentable]

How?

I like their hip-hop, and I also like Sabotage.

But, I like thier hip-hop the most.
I hope they save hip-hop for you.

[BeastieAlbum07]

I hope they save hip-hop for you.

Nah, I meant that they resurrect the hip-hop of the 80s and 90s...

Now, that would be some sweet shit.

I don't listen to music (Besides the Boys) after about 1996.

[Kid Presentable]

Nah, I meant that they resurrect the hip-hop of the 80s and 90s...

Now, that would be some sweet shit.

How come, though?

[BeastieAlbum07]

How come, though?

Becase that is the music I love.

I happen to be a teen right now, but I am hypnotized by the likes of the Beasties, Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC, 3rd Bass, Whodini, Mantronix, Afrika Bambaataa, etc.

That is real music, and I haven't heard real music in its prime EVER.

I cannot listen to music on the radio, and I get mad when I hear culture frauds like 50 Cent, Young Buck, etc. being played/sung by my peers and friends.

[Kid Presentable]

Becase that is the music I love.

I happen to be a teen right now, but I am hypnotized by the likes of the Beasties, Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC, 3rd Bass, Whodini, Mantronix, Afrika Bambaataa, etc.

That is real music, and I haven't heard real music in its prime EVER.

And you never will. So why is that a problem? The music is still there. You get to enjoy that, at least.

[Brother McDuff]

as great as the golden era of hip-hop was, reverting back to it isn't going to save rap music. there's tons of stuff that comes out each year that's on that 80s and early 90s tip (really good stuff too), but nobody's listening because it's not new and fresh, not to mention that the original artists of that era will always sound better at it than anyone. a change in regime always takes a new sound or approach. sure the beasties can make a spark and shine the light, but very few "popular" artists would follow them enough to make a significant difference or effort.

for example, i think hello nasty did some remarkable things with hip-hop and took it in some new directions, but nobody joined in or elaborated on it, so it'll just remain a singular, diamond in the rough forever.

[BeastieAlbum07]

And you never will. So why is that a problem? The music is still there. You get to enjoy that, at least.

But I wish that it would happen. I want people to be exposed to real music.

I always think of a time when I can turn the radio and listen to a song or many songs that I know by heart that doesn't have a (bleep) every 5 seconds.

It must have ruled to hear The Beastie Boys, Run-DMC, The Fresh Prince, etc back to back to back on the radio...

[BeastieAlbum07]

as great as the golden era of hip-hop was, reverting back to it isn't going to save rap music. there's tons of stuff that comes out each year that's on that 80s and early 90s tip (really good stuff too), but nobody's listening because it's not new and fresh, not to mention that the original artists of that era will always sound better at it than anyone. a change in regime always takes a new sound or approach. sure the beasties can make a spark and shine the light, but very few "popular" artists would follow them enough to make a significant difference or effort.

for example, i think hello nasty did some remarkable things with hip-hop and took it in some new directions, but nobody joined in or elaborated on it, so it'll just remain a singular, diamond in the rough forever.

So you mean to tell me that if Run-DMC, the Beastie Boys, MC Serch, Grandmaster Flash, and someone else from the golden age came back and all produced records at the same time, there would be absolutely no influence on music for years to come?

[Brother McDuff]

And you never will.


that's a bogus statement. that is, if you're implying that there will never be another flourishing era in music... ever.

i guess if you mean that you'll never see hip-hop in it's prime then that makes sense.

[Kid Presentable]

i guess if you mean that you'll never see hip-hop in it's prime then that makes sense.
Given what I quoted, I thought it was obvious I meant s/he'd never see Mantronix or Whodini.

[BeastieAlbum07]

that's a bogus statement. that is, if you're implying that there will never be another flourishing era in music... ever.

i guess if you mean that you'll never see hip-hop in it's prime then that makes sense.

I still say that there could be a revertion back to the golden age, but it is unlikely.

[Kid Presentable]

Hello Nasty gets made too big a deal over, so I'm not going there. But Mcduff, you'd cosign shit like the first Handsome Boy album, and 3030 to this user, right? Just to show them how far it went from where it all started? They are sick of commercial rap, after all.

[Brother McDuff]

So you mean to tell me that if Run-DMC, the Beastie Boys, MC Serch, Grandmaster Flash, and someone else from the golden age came back and all produced records at the same time, there would be absolutely no influence on music for years to come?

not like you'd think.

it's not like they'd save hip-hop or change the face of it. these people still release music, you just don't hear about it because it's not as dope or fresh as their older stuff (except for the beasties of course).

i don't know why Serch is on that list.

[Brother McDuff]

But Mcduff, you'd cosign shit like the first Handsome Boy album, and 3030 to this user, right?


couldn't think of two better examples.(y)

BeastieAlbum07, i think you're more pissed at what gets the airplay than a lack of quality hip-hop. it's a bummer to see the bullshit rise, but there's still plenty of worthwhile and thoughtful records comin' out frequently. including lots of stuff that channels that 80s and early 90s sound.

[BeastieAlbum07]

not like you'd think.

it's not like they'd save hip-hop or change the face of it. these people still release music, you just don't hear about it because it's not as dope or fresh as their older stuff (except for the beasties of course).

i don't know why Serch is on that list.

I meant 3rd Bass, but the point is that if enough promotion and $ pumped in, it would have to gain some exposure.

[BeastieAlbum07]

couldn't think of two better examples.(y)

BeastieAlbum07, i think you're more pissed at what gets the airplay than a lack of quality hip-hop. it's a bummer to see the bullshit rise, but there's still plenty of worthwhile and thoughtful records comin' out frequently. including lots of stuff that channels that 80s and early 90s sound.

Are there any artists that you can think of offhand?

Because, I can think of NONE.

[Brother McDuff]

Are there any artists that you can think of offhand?

Because, I can think of NONE.


you just need to look harder, brother. there are so many different artists over various tastes that just about anything I reccomend could easily be argued. so I'm not gonna fall for that one.


kid p mentioned handsome boy modeling school which is a really good one, though. deltron 3030 he said too, but you may think it's too spacy. ummmm, actually Edan sounds like something you could get a hold of. check out Edan's "Beauty and the Beat". It's a great blend of that old school aesthetic with a real progressive twist. a good bridge from then to now. he actually majored in hip-hop history, so I think you'll apppreciate his references and lyrical style.

[BeastieAlbum07]

you just need to look harder, brother. there are so many different artists over various tastes that just about anything I reccomend could easily be argued. so I'm not gonna fall for that one.


kid p mentioned handsome boy modeling school which is a really good one, though. deltron 3030 he said too, but you may think it's too spacy. ummmm, actually Edan sounds like something you could get a hold of. check out Edan's "Beauty and the Beat". It's a great blend of that old school aesthetic with a real progressive twist. a good bridge from then to now. he actually majored in hip-hop history, so I think you'll apppreciate his references and lyrical style.

That is some good stuff.

Have you heard Blood of Abraham?

They are progressive and good, as well.

[Kid Presentable]

Are there any artists that you can think of offhand?

Because, I can think of NONE.
MF DOOM.

[JohnnyChavello]

Hip hop doesn't need to be saved. Trust me its alive and well.

[Justin]

This thread inspired my new avatar and custom title.


"Whatever happened to the Emcees!?"

[Kid Presentable]

This thread inspired my new avatar and custom title.


"Whatever happened to the Emcees!?"
Such a good group. (y)

[Laver1969]

I can feel a classic album coming, and maybe a rejuvination of hip-hop.


Well, the speculation is that the new album will be a 60s Northern Soul, Spy-themed, and possibly all-instrumental.

So you may be right about a "classic album coming"...but it's likely to not be hiphop.

[camo]

I mean, this sounds really wild, but it could certainly happen.

The Beastie Boys were an integal part of making hip-hop mainstream back in the 80s.

Licensed to Ill was classic.

With hip-hop facing troubling times, and a new Beastie Boys album on the horizon, could they save it?

I can feel a classic album coming, and maybe a rejuvination of hip-hop.

Talk about solidifying a legacy...

thats what i'd like to see

[BeastieAlbum07]

Well, the speculation is that the new album will be a 60s Northern Soul, Spy-themed, and possibly all-instrumental.

So you may be right about a "classic album coming"...but it's likely to not be hiphop.

THat would really freaking suck.

[KENNY GUIDO]

Hip hop doesn't need to be saved. Trust me its alive and well.


its dying. havent you heard the latest?:confused:

[camo]

^^^on mtv.com? :D

[funk63]

i think hip hop was severely wounded when fat joes latest album dropped

[KENNY GUIDO]

i think hip hop was severely wounded when fat joes latest album dropped

fat joe is cool. he's down with the fever!

[milkboy009]

truthfully, the Boys don't really get respect from the majority of the Hip Hop community these days, so their ability to influence hip hop as a whole is limited. I think most of the commercial rappers that are "killing" hip hop today see the boys at outsiders, and even as pirates of the culture (which we all know is far from the truth).

[laurie_hammy]

Beastie Boys are Hip Hop Legends.

[Funkyfreshgrape]

Beastie Boys are Hip Hop Legends.
yeah i soooooo agree:D

[KENNY GUIDO]

truthfully, the Boys don't really get respect from the majority of the Hip Hop community these days, so their ability to influence hip hop as a whole is limited. I think most of the commercial rappers that are "killing" hip hop today see the boys at outsiders, and even as pirates of the culture (which we all know is far from the truth).

so true. todays rap is focused on bling bling, rape, drugs and murder. when the beasties rapped it was obviously "fake" but it was still good.

[BeastieAlbum07]

so true. todays rap is focused on bling bling, rape, drugs and murder. when the beasties rapped it was obviously "fake" but it was still good.

"The New Style" is playing right now, and I realize that rap is not all about the previously mentioned material once again.

Today's music is a joke.

[KENNY GUIDO]

"The New Style" is playing right now, and I realize that rap is not all about the previously mentioned material once again.

Today's music is a joke.

Back then, one can distinguish between whats real and whats not (IE Paul Revere, Rymin and stealing)

today, if someone hears about sending col. sanders down to davey jones locker, one might actually go out and find someone by the name of sanders and drown them!

[BeastieAlbum07]

Back then, one can distinguish between whats real and whats not (IE Paul Revere, Rymin and stealing)

today, if someone hears about sending col. sanders down to davey jones locker, one might actually go out and find someone by the name of sanders and drown them!

LOL

Or they might find someone with a little horsey named Paul Revere with a quart of beer.

[Justin]

I hope this record sucks so bad that it only leaves 20 of us left that likes them

[Lex Diamonds]

The Beastie Boys helped to invent today's rape, guns and drink rap mentality with Licensed To Ill. They pretty much pioneered it, at least as far as commercial hip-hop was concerned, and it is a large part of what made them successful.

Kinda ironic that you are all saying they don't get enough recognition while complaining that modern mainstream rap is about money, drinking, womanising and shooting people;

"I've got money and juice, twin sisters in my bed, their father had envy so I shot him in the head."

[Hypestyle]

i want to see guest producers/remixers like:
DJ Premier
DJ Jazzy Jeff
Rick Rubin
Dr. Dre
EPMD
Wyclef Jean

[funk63]

i think its a pity the beastie boys are considered "cultural piraters" or w/e.
ya they arent wiggers, they dont rap about gettin' pussy..
they have their own style and they do their own thing. they donate to charity and seem to be nice people. i think if anyone diserves respect its them.

[Michelle*s_Farm]

I hope this record sucks so bad that it only leaves 20 of us left that likes them

A little know fact is that there are only 20 people on the boards.

We actually post under 100's of different handles and IP addresses. It is an elaborate conspiracy. Perhaps the number will go down to five. But we can still make it appear that there are 100's of posters. It is a fulltime job but the payoffs are enormous (e.g., bling).

[Brother McDuff]

A little know fact is that there are only 20 people on the boards.

We actually post under 100's of different handles and IP addresses. It is an elaborate conspiracy. Perhaps the number will go down to five. But we can still make it appear that there are 100's of posters. It is a fulltime job but the payoffs are enormous (e.g., bling).


???:confused:

[KENNY GUIDO]

The Beastie Boys helped to invent today's rape, guns and drink rap mentality with Licensed To Ill. They pretty much pioneered it, at least as far as commercial hip-hop was concerned, and it is a large part of what made them successful.

Kinda ironic that you are all saying they don't get enough recognition while complaining that modern mainstream rap is about money, drinking, womanising and shooting people;

"I've got money and juice, twin sisters in my bed, their father had envy so I shot him in the head."

rappers rapped about that before the beastie boys. :)

[Meatloaf]

I am hypnotized by the likes of the Beasties, Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC, 3rd Bass, Whodini, Mantronix, Afrika Bambaataa, etc.

That is real music, and I haven't heard real music in its prime EVER.

I cannot listen to music on the radio

You should check out XM 65 "The Rhyme"
Snoop has a nice channel over there. I give it a (y)

[BeastieAlbum07]

You should check out XM 65 "The Rhyme"
Snoop has a nice channel over there. I give it a (y)
I will look into it. THanks.

[Bobtwi]

You should check out XM 65 "The Rhyme"
Snoop has a nice channel over there. I give it a (y)
XM blows.Try Sirius,they have an old school channel.I think its 43 or some shit close to that.

[Laver1969]

XM blows.Try Sirius,they have an old school channel.I think its 43 or some shit close to that.

Yep...channel 43, Backspin. No commercials either.

[kleptomaniac]

Yep...channel 43, Backspin. No commercials either.

my favorite channel :D

[JohnnyChavello]

Why don't all of you just admit that you only like white rappers that don't intimidate you, and that you refer to "mainstream" hip-hop as ignorant because it makes you feel insecure.

[Justin]

It has nothing to do with skin color.

I dance to all the popular hip hop songs at the clubs and bars, but I personally wouldn't own over 90% of them.

I dont find bubba sparkz (or whatever his name is) to be intimidating at all. I laugh at him everytime I see him

[laurie_hammy]

It has nothing to do with skin color.

I dance to all the popular hip hop songs at the clubs and bars, but I personally wouldn't own over 90% of them.

I dont find bubba sparkz (or whatever his name is) to be intimidating at all. I laugh at him everytime I see him

Booty Booty Booty Booty haha

By the way LOVE the ya sig

[Justin]

Booty Booty Booty Booty haha

By the way LOVE the ya sig


Thanks bro! Adrock always makes the song shine!

[funk63]

Why don't all of you just admit that you only like white rappers that don't intimidate you, and that you refer to "mainstream" hip-hop as ignorant because it makes you feel insecure.

actually, im scared to death of the beastie boys.
and who wouldnt be honestly. http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4373/hetim4.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Brother McDuff]

i'd be lying if i said the beasties didn't make me wanna just quit makin music altogether. listenin to a full bboy album makes me wonder what im even bothering for. but at the same time, they inspire me just the same.

[KENNY GUIDO]

I dont find bubba sparkz (or whatever his name is) to be intimidating at all. I laugh at him everytime I see him

fat people always make me laugh! especially fat, ugly ones!

[Lex Diamonds]

rappers rapped about that before the beastie boys. :)
I know, I'm saying they brought it to the mainstream and it was acceptable, probably because they were white. Anyway the point is the Beastie Boys helped create the environment which has helped that sort of rap to grow. Sad but true.

[KENNY GUIDO]

I know, I'm saying they brought it to the mainstream and it was acceptable, probably because they were white. Anyway the point is the Beastie Boys helped create the environment which has helped that sort of rap to grow. Sad but true.

Yea, I never really paid too much attention to the style previously (I actually was frightened to hear it from other rappers!) but the beasties make it "fun".

[skra75]

This thread is LOL x 10000

[BeastieAlbum07]

I bet MCA saw this and knew they could do it!

[Nicodemus]

I know who you really are.