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Bob
03-05-2007, 08:45 PM
how long do you have to be out of office before people stop calling you "mr. president"? if i ever become president, i'm gonna make it my business to make sure people call me mr. president all the time.

i'm gonna make my wife call me mr. president, right up to the day she divorces me. i'm gonna make my friends call me mr. president. i'm gonna make pizza boys call me mr. president when they open the door. i'm gonna train my fucking dog to call me mr. president

in fact, i'd name my dog mr. president too, and make the pizza boy address him correctly when he opens the door. otherwise he doesn't get tipped. my ex-wife has to call him mr. president too. fuck her. the bitch got half, it's the least she can do. she probably only married me for her career anyways. said she wanted to be a writer. but all she knows how to write are memoirs. figure that.

anyway, when is it appropriate to stop referring to ex-presidents as "mr. president"?

Bob
03-05-2007, 08:48 PM
that's what i'd think, but on talk shows and stuff, when they have like clinton or bush sr. on, they call them "mr. president"

kleptomaniac
03-05-2007, 08:49 PM
if they got a sex-change operation, you'd probably have to call them mrs. president. otherwise, i don't know.

mikizee
03-05-2007, 08:50 PM
ex presidents are allowed to be called 'mr president' for the rest of their lives i think. id look it up on wiki but i cant be bothered.

Bob
03-05-2007, 08:52 PM
ex presidents are allowed to be called 'mr president' for the rest of their lives i think. id look it up on wiki but i cant be bothered.

sweet deal

that settles it, i'm running

mikizee
03-05-2007, 08:55 PM
well ud be better than bush

actually a real bush would be a better president than dubya.

kleptomaniac
03-05-2007, 08:55 PM
sweet deal

that settles it, i'm running

i'll vote for you! :D

you're going to have to wait a while before you're old enough though, you might change your mind then!

Documad
03-05-2007, 09:30 PM
He keeps the title informally for life. So do senators and judges. It's a matter of courtesy I suppose.

DroppinScience
03-06-2007, 01:42 AM
"Assassination is the deliberate killing of an important person, usually a political figure or other strategically important individual"


yes, Wikipedia. A poor, dull man cannot be assassinated. They just stop turning up to things, I suppose.

Uh, it's the universally accepted dictionary definition, not just Wikipedia. Assassinations ARE the killings of political figures. If your next-door neighbor is killed by robbers, he's murdered. Unless he's a politician, he's not assassinated.


Main Entry:
as·sas·si·nate Listen to the pronunciation of assassinate
Pronunciation:
\ə-ˈsa-sə-ˌnāt\
Function:
transitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
-nat·ed; -nat·ing
Date:
1607

1 : to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously 2 : to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons

Otis Driftwood
03-06-2007, 03:04 PM
Mr President?
They did this awful "Aijaja Coco Jamboo" song. No doubt they'll be on TV next week...

abcdefz
03-06-2007, 03:12 PM
I don't know if it's still the case if you're thrown out of office, but, yeah, you're still "President (Smith)" or "Mr. President" for life.

I think the correct etiquette is "President (Smith)," if formerly addressed.

abcdefz
03-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Uh, it's the universally accepted dictionary definition, not just Wikipedia. Assassinations ARE the killings of political figures. If your next-door neighbor is killed by robbers, he's murdered. Unless he's a politician, he's not assassinated.



Yeah, but you can also assassinate someone's character, so I dunno.

You only cited reference #1, by the way. Not very comprehensive. What are you hiding?

Junker
03-06-2007, 03:13 PM
If I meet an ex-president on the street I wont call him Mr. President.
Fuck him. He's not the president anymore.

abcdefz
03-06-2007, 03:19 PM
Yeah, but that's because you're the very model of civility.

Bob
03-06-2007, 05:35 PM
Yeah, but you can also assassinate someone's character, so I dunno.

You only cited reference #1, by the way. Not very comprehensive. What are you hiding?

TELL ME WHERE THE DEFINITION IS

uh ahem sorry

i dunno, it sounds like a borderline title of nobility, which i JUST learned the constitution forbids. i guess it doesn't count if the title doesn't...entitle you to anything though

except a secret service escort, but i suppose there's a reason for that

Documad
03-06-2007, 09:35 PM
I've never met a president or ex-president, but I've met quite a few ex-senators, judges, justices, and chief justices. The most awkward are the ex-chief justices. You definitely say "hello chief justice smith." You can say just "hello chief" if you know and/or worked for her/him.

QueenAdrock
03-06-2007, 09:37 PM
ex presidents are allowed to be called 'mr president' for the rest of their lives i think. id look it up on wiki but i cant be bothered.

Yeah, they're always called President Clinton, etc. and Vice President Gore. FOREVERANDEVER

Bob
03-06-2007, 09:52 PM
I've never met a president or ex-president, but I've met quite a few ex-senators, judges, justices, and chief justices. The most awkward are the ex-chief justices. You definitely say "hello chief justice smith." You can say just "hello chief" if you know and/or worked for her/him.

if i ever met a chief justice, i'd just pretend not to know that

actually that's not true, if i ever met a chief justice i'd probably kiss his/her ass pretty hard, i need the references

"good student...great kisser"

mikizee
03-06-2007, 10:04 PM
ive met clinton, and I just called him sir.

Documad
03-06-2007, 10:05 PM
Bob, you definitely need to learn how to identify and kiss up to judges. It's quite easy to just show respect. You don't have to tell the judge that he is the smartest judge in the world. But if you happen to think that his jokes are funny it's appropriate to laugh loudly and if you happen to agree with something he did, there's no harm in telling him so. Kissing up to judges is my best legal skill. :p

If you run into a judge in a public place and you can't remember the last name with 100% certainty, you say "good morning judge." That's perfectly fine.

Junker
03-07-2007, 08:58 AM
Yeah, but that's because you're the very model of civility.

(y) I do my best :D