so related to jobs

[The Notorious LOL]

I interviewed for one, was offered a job. At first, I wasnt interested but the more I think about it, I think it might be good. Also, I have an interview on monday and I feel very confident I will be offered that as well. So heres the quandry.....both are help desk/tech support positions doing basically the same thing


Job 1

Full time thru company

Pros:
More lax dress code
bus pass to/from work is free
free high speed internet/free premium television service (lots of channels)
opportunity for advancement
decent benefits package

Cons:
Worse schedule than Job 2, Tuesdays/Wednesdays off
Long distance from home, if I did have to drive I would probably deal with rush hour traffic
expectation of sales :(


Job 2

Contracting position for a major retailer

Pros:
Payscale is slightly higher
Contract is for one year, pay jumps a dollar after six months, full time opportunity is $10k more than I make now. if the job sucks I am only committed to one year
Contractor has multiple clients throughout the metro area, many more opportunities for employment

Cons:
Contract puts me in a touchier position regarding employment. If I fuck up, it may be easier to "relieve" me (but I dont know for sure)
Business Professional Dress Code
Located in the ass end of a suburb not on a bus route
Not sure about benefits while contracting



guh

[QueenAdrock]

Contracting has decent benefits. Not amazing like $25 per month health care/dental which some of my friends get, but...okay. Average. It depends on the company though, how big they are, etc.

And yeah, contractors are "at will" but that's usually for the first 90 days. Then you have a review period and they tell you what you did right, what you did wrong, and then based on your performance you can have job security. I kick ass at my job, they recognized after 90 days, and now I got security out the butt. They gotta have a darn good reason to fire me now that it's past the 90-day review period. But like I said, it depends on company policy.

Either way, I'd go with whatever gets you more money. Figure out how much it'll cost you to commute to both/insurance packages and everything. Oh, and with who you'd be working with. Because mental stability is important too, and I'd go crazy if I worked with retarded people. Based on that, I'd say go with #2. But make sure you argue both positions up, by telling each company another company wants you, that way you're more valuable to them. (y)

[abcdefz]

I'd keep looking.

[The Notorious LOL]

nah. Im taking one or the other. Ive been out of tech support for a bit, so jumping back in isnt necessarily super easy. I got fortunate getting two offers.

[abcdefz]

Okay, then: No. 2.

No. 1 -- you'd hate working weekends and you'd get sick of the commute. Unless you're a reader and go for the bus pass. But most people with cars get sick of the bus.

[The Notorious LOL]

I loved the bus when I rode it before. Just shut off your brain and zone.

[QueenAdrock]

Same with me. The Metro sucks sometimes, but mostly I just zone off or sleep. Not thinking about having to maneuver through traffic is definitely worth it.

[Documad]

Can you wait until you see if you actually get job #2?

Number 1 sounds like a job to pay the rent while number 2 sounds like more of a career builder, is that right? In my experience, independent contractors pay more taxes and have no benefits, which is why they make more money per hour.


I used to love the bus. I never get bus sick, so I could read and listen to music for 1.5 hours a day undisturbed.

[The Notorious LOL]

I'll get it.

[cubsfirstplace]

I'll get it.

i don't believe you

[Documad]

The DC subway is my favorite subway.

[g-mile7]

No. 1 sounds better (and it seems by your list your leaning towards this). Wats mrs. LOL thoughts? I think job 1 sounds good least on paper

[Documad]

You're not going to drive a funny looking car are you?

If No. 1 is Comcast, you should take that because I have a lot of friends who need help with their service. Comcast had to bring a guy in from Wisconsin the last time I had a problem.

[beastiegirrl101]

what should one expect at a second interview? I just got a call for a second interview with the company that told me I was overqualified for the job. I know to ask a ton of questions about the company and the actual position but I feel all of those were answered in my frist 3 HOUR interview with the company. I also freeze when they ask what are your weaknesses and usually give the typical answers....but, I've never been asked back for a second interview, I usually just got the job the first time around.

So...those of you who have experience with this...anything different I should expect?

[The Notorious LOL]

more stupid questions.

[beastiegirrl101]

we seem to be on the same path with all this interviewing....it totally sucks.

[The Notorious LOL]

I dunno its kinda fun. I wore a suit today.

[beastiegirrl101]

I dunno its kinda fun. I wore a suit today.

NO! I have been in full makeup and heals for like the past week! I need a day off. My office is more casual so I never really get this glam before 5pm on a week day.

[The Notorious LOL]

my current job I wear hooded sweatshirts, and the kind of pants people work out or sleep in if I am too lazy to put on jeans. It rules.

[HEIRESS]

"you're wearing a tuxedo?!?!?!"
"it's after 6 pm. what am I, a farmer?"

the bus is cheap and I read like 83 books a week because of it FACT

[HEIRESS]

ps. you also have to factor in how much you'd end up spending on buying your "young professionals" wardrobe

or be like my brother and attain the position of main pit boss at a casino and skateboard to work and then throw on your thrift store/walmart suit while strutting the floor

(y)

[Documad]

what should one expect at a second interview? I just got a call for a second interview with the company that told me I was overqualified for the job. I know to ask a ton of questions about the company and the actual position but I feel all of those were answered in my frist 3 HOUR interview with the company. I also freeze when they ask what are your weaknesses and usually give the typical answers....but, I've never been asked back for a second interview, I usually just got the job the first time around.

So...those of you who have experience with this...anything different I should expect?
The second interview is often like the first one, but with more important people interviewing you. Where I work, a general group of management types interview candidates first, and then if you're being considered for my division, I interview you the next time. Sometimes the second interview is with people further up the food chain, but sometimes it's with the people you're more likely to be working with instead.

Is it possible that you were overqualified for the first job, but they liked you and they are thinking of you for another job that they haven't posted but they think you would be good at? My friend's husband just got a job that way, and it also happens where I work.

[synch]

I had a job interview last month. I more or less implied that working in advertising was more immoral than selling weaponry.

I start next month.

[Documad]

I had a job interview last month. I more or less implied that working in advertising was more immoral than selling weaponry.

I start next month.
:p

I completely understand that. You will probably stick it out because you're walking in with a realistic viewpoint. An idealist might be discouraged in the face of reality and bitch about it or quit.

I just got a newbie employee and my biggest concern is that she isn't going to be tough enough to handle what I need her to do. I like people who are good with gallows humor.

[synch]

Well, it's a company that works closely with advertising companies but is basically a web design company. I felt that I could (and wanted) to get my disguist for the manipulative nature of some aspects of the field out in the open and the guy (who is one of the owners of the company) actually agreed with me!

Basically I took the chance of him not appreciating the comment but I wouldn't have wanted to work there in the first place if he hadn't, so it was a win-win situation really.

[Documad]

If you're not desperate for a job, I think it's a good strategy.

I've been brutally honest on job interviews. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. But when it works, I know that I'm going to be comfortable working there, because the truth is that I can't keep my mouth shut forever and it's better if they know that right away.