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Yeti
03-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Film questions Michael Moore's tactics

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- As documentary filmmakers, Debbie Melnyk and Rick Caine looked up to Michael Moore.

Then they tried to do a documentary of their own about him - and ran into the same sort of resistance Moore himself famously faces in his own films.

The result is "Manufacturing Dissent," which turns the camera on the confrontational documentarian and examines some of his methods. Among their revelations in the movie, which had its world premiere Saturday night at the South by Southwest film festival: That Moore actually did speak with then-General Motors chairman Roger Smith, the evasive subject of his 1989 debut "Roger & Me," but chose to withhold that footage from the final cut.

The husband-and-wife directors spent over two years making the movie, which follows Moore on his college tour promoting 2004's "Fahrenheit 9/11." The film shows Melnyk repeatedly approaching Moore for an interview and being rejected; members of Moore's team also kick the couple out of the audience at one of his speeches, saying they weren't allowed to be shooting there.

At their own premiere Saturday night, the Toronto-based filmmakers expected pro-Moore plants in the audience heckling or trying to otherwise sabotage the screening, but it turned out to be a tame affair.

"It went really well," Melnyk said. "People really liked the film and laughed at the right spots and got the movie and we're really happy about it."

Moore hasn't commented publicly on "Manufacturing Dissent" and Melnyk thinks he never will. He also hasn't responded to several calls and e-mails from The Associated Press.

"There's no point for Michael to respond to the film because then it gives it publicity," she said.

"(President) Bush didn't respond to `Fahrenheit 9/11,' and there's a reason for that," Caine added.

The two were and still are fans of all his movies - including the polarizing "Fahrenheit 9/11," which grossed over $119 million and won the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival - and initially wanted to do a biography on him. They traveled to his childhood home of Davison, Mich., visited his high school and traced his early days in politics and journalism.

"The fact that he made documentaries entertaining was extremely influential and got all kinds of people out to see them," said Melnyk, whose previous films with Caine include 1998's "Junket Whore." "Let's face it, he made documentaries popular and that is great for all documentary filmmakers."

"All of these films - `Super Size Me,' `An Inconvenient Truth' - we've all been riding in his wake," said Caine. "There's a nonfiction film revolution going on and we're all beneficiaries of that. For that point alone, he's worth celebrating."

But after four months of unsuccessfully trying to sit down with Moore for an on-camera interview, they realized they needed to approach the subject from a different angle. They began looking at the process Moore employs in his films, and the deeper they dug, the more they began to question him.

The fact that Moore spoke with Smith, including a lengthy question-and-answer exchange during a May 1987 GM shareholders meeting, first was reported in a Premiere magazine article three years later. Transcripts of the discussion had been leaked to the magazine, and a clip of the meeting appeared in "Manufacturing Dissent." Moore also reportedly interviewed Smith on camera in January 1988 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York.

Since then, in the years since "Roger & Me" put Moore on the map, those details seem to have been suppressed and forgotten.

"It was shocking, because to me that was the whole premise of `Roger & Me,'" Melnyk said.

She and Caine also had trouble finding people to talk on camera about Moore, partly because potential interview subjects assumed they were creating a right-wing attack piece; as self-proclaimed left-wingers, they weren't.

Despite what they've learned, the directors still appreciate Moore.

"We're a bit disappointed and disillusioned with Michael," Melnyk said, "but we are still very grateful to him for putting documentaries out there in a major way that people can go to a DVD store and they're right up there alongside dramatic features."

abcdefz
03-12-2007, 12:02 PM
The result is "Manufacturing Dissent," which turns the camera on the confrontational documentarian and examines some of his methods. Among their revelations in the movie, which had its world premiere Saturday night at the South by Southwest film festival: That Moore actually did speak with then-General Motors chairman Roger Smith, the evasive subject of his 1989 debut "Roger & Me," but chose to withhold that footage from the final cut.




Imagine that. :rolleyes:

Wonder why Roger Smith didn't sue his ass.

Yeti
03-12-2007, 12:09 PM
I am guessing that he regarded Michael Moore as a fat bug splattered on his windshield. An annoyance that can easily be wiped clean.

I am not a fan of Moore's so-called documentaries. I prefer cinema verite or factually narrated documentary films. He watered down the artform and I consider it a bastardized version of documentary filmmaking.

abcdefz
03-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Yeah -- they're more like editorials than documentaries. He's a hypocritical fatass that's just figured out his pseudo-liberal shtick and is running with it for all it's worth. Fuckhead.

Yeti
03-12-2007, 12:22 PM
I have watched all of his films. They all have entertainment value. I am always shocked and dismayed when I see ignorance on a big screen. His methods are very questionable and I can do without the filmmakers opinions in my documentaries. I prefer a balanced view of a subject so I can form an unbiased opinion. I really like documentary films that focus on real people. I just watched Hoop Dreams on Sundance last week and it still stands the test of time.

JobDDT
03-12-2007, 12:30 PM
Moore does a good job with his documentaries. Don't be such a traditionalist.

venusvenus123
03-12-2007, 12:32 PM
Yeah -- they're more like editorials than documentaries. He's a hypocritical fatass that's just figured out his pseudo-liberal shtick and is running with it for all it's worth. Fuckhead.
he's a stoopid white man!

not exactly the first person to say that, i know...

YoungRemy
03-12-2007, 02:41 PM
he's not too much of a documentarian... his agenda really gets annoying... I've gone back and forth on him, I liked Roger & Me when I saw it in high school, and BFC was poignant, and they actually got walmart to change their gun policy, but F9/11 was a screenplay for gods sake... I mean his voiceover narrated the entire film!