Show Vinyl on Auction

[Jitters]

I can't believe how much this vinyl (http://cgi.ebay.com/Beastie-Boys-SHOW-VINYL-FROM-1998-HELLO-NASTY-TOUR-5_W0QQitemZ220092147140QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)or this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/Beastie-Boys-SHOW-VINYL-FROM-1998-HELLO-NASTY-TOUR-6_W0QQitemZ220092595126QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)is going for :eek:

I know it's rare but someone has a lot of money to spare and it's still got over 5 days left so you know it's going to go up in price.

[mcamuto]

I can't believe how much this vinyl (http://cgi.ebay.com/Beastie-Boys-SHOW-VINYL-FROM-1998-HELLO-NASTY-TOUR-5_W0QQitemZ220092147140QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)or this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/Beastie-Boys-SHOW-VINYL-FROM-1998-HELLO-NASTY-TOUR-6_W0QQitemZ220092595126QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)is going for :eek:

I know it's rare but someone has a lot of money to spare and it's still got over 5 days left so you know it's going to go up in price.

That is pretty insane. I can see the value in the second one because it has the instrumentals but the first one maybe not as much since its really just a bunch of breaks that are on a lot of break records.

The interesting thing is the the seller said it probably was not used based on the press date of the record. The US official tour actually started at the end of july in 98 in Seattle and not on June 14 (TFC concert) like the guy said. So it could have been used but probably not if its in decent condition. They probably make a bunch of all the records anyway.

In 2004 somebody on the board found some show vinyl's in the dumpster behind the show and had pictures of them. *Thats* value

Maybe if I was rich....

[bigfatlove06]

The value of the item is not based on the rarity of the tracks. For a collector, limited pressings are highly valuable. The value of those vinyls is based on how many were made (and how many are likely to ever surface again in the future). A perfect example is Some Live Bullshit. This is a not even an official recording, but it was limited to 30 copies, pressed on polycarbonate,on 7", and made in New Zealand. You can pick up a copy of "Seven Day Weekend", from which the two tracks on the record appear, for less than 10 bucks... but to a collector the piece itself is highly desirable. If a copy of Some Live Bullshit was posted for 100 dollars, it would be gone in 24 hours. The reason the show vinyls sell for so much is because every collector hopes to one day complete their collection. When a collector has a chance at a record that has not surfaced since it was pressed in '98 or '99, and there is no indication that it will ever surface again, the value increases exponentially.

[DJ_Skrilla]

Those 2 records have already been highly bootlegged. Show me a crispy CYH or IC or PB show vinyls?

I have the Beastie Show Breaks (http://www.juno.co.uk/products/116630-01.htm,) Hello Nasty Instrumentals (http://www.discogs.com/release/144848) Licensed To Ill Show Vinyl (http://www.discogs.com/release/189942)

All of them bootleged from originals. So buy the original or buy the original for cheap, or buy the source for $6000?

Find me the CYH, IC, or PB. Soneone found some PB show vinyls in a garbage after a show is AUS...

[DeeJayZap]

its taking a long time for the tt5b show vinyl to get bootlegged...

[Sir SkratchaLot]

The value of the item is not based on the rarity of the tracks. For a collector, limited pressings are highly valuable. The value of those vinyls is based on how many were made (and how many are likely to ever surface again in the future). A perfect example is Some Live Bullshit. This is a not even an official recording, but it was limited to 30 copies, pressed on polycarbonate,on 7", and made in New Zealand. You can pick up a copy of "Seven Day Weekend", from which the two tracks on the record appear, for less than 10 bucks... but to a collector the piece itself is highly desirable. If a copy of Some Live Bullshit was posted for 100 dollars, it would be gone in 24 hours. The reason the show vinyls sell for so much is because every collector hopes to one day complete their collection. When a collector has a chance at a record that has not surfaced since it was pressed in '98 or '99, and there is no indication that it will ever surface again, the value increases exponentially.

To me, this is where collecting just gets pointless. The show vinyls make some sense to me because they have some officialness and rarity of track, but the "Some Live Bullshit" example seems like novice collectors getting duped. Back in the mid and late 90s collecting was cool because of all the tracks you could find on b-sides our out-of-print releases or demo tracks that were surfacing. At some point Beastie Boys collecting just got too detail oriented and irrelevant for me. They're putting out 1500 different versions of each single and its almost like the collection market is driving the production, which is pointless.

[bigfatlove06]

Sir SkratchaLot

I think you summed it up brilliantly. Collecting was only fun for you when you could find B-sides or tracks you hadn't heard yet, after that it was pointless. It all depends on where you draw the line. Some go a step further than you did and collect pressings from different countries, others go a step further and collect every pressing from every country in every format (and on and on), because it is still fun for them to do it.

For me the only reason to have a quarter is to spend it on something. The only reason for me to buy a stamp is to mail a letter. But for coin and stamp collectors.. well you know where I'm going with it.

I think the fact that so many different pressings in different formats is really cool for collectors, but I do not think it plays more than just a small part of production based decisions. I could be totally wrong, but I don't think EMI made the business decision to distribute Solid Gold Hits on CD in the Philippeans because it would create a buzz in the collecting market. I do appreciate the fact that the Beastie Boys have done things like The Sounds Of Science 4xLP or colored wax etc... with collectors in mind though.

On the bootlegs... You're absolutely right about consumers getting duped by bootleggers who take tracks that exist and just repackage them. I have been duped many times myself, but some of them have really good mixes that you cant get anywhere else.