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Bob
04-02-2007, 06:44 AM
"Finally, the Lawyers' Committee may be able to gain leverage through
the use of a pubic accountability campaign to expose the Credential if
the test is found to be invalid."

this is funny, because it's the final sentence of this project we've been working on all semester (like 4 months now, it's 75 pages long, this thing's ridiculous), we're turning it in on friday

i almost kind of want to leave it that way, it's a pretty good typo

Pres Zount
04-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Not enough commas, obviously.

Freebasser
04-02-2007, 06:47 AM
Yup.

Comma after "campaign".

Bob
04-02-2007, 02:41 PM
the real answer, for those who are too lazy to figure out why this post is funny, is that it says "pubic" instead of public

the answer was "pubic"

b i o n i c
04-02-2007, 02:42 PM
i was gonna say, leave it.

Dorothy Wood
04-02-2007, 02:49 PM
"pubic" is the only word I read.

Bob
04-02-2007, 02:50 PM
I was going to say it, but you told people the answer too early.

yeah but nobody was replying, i felt like the post was going to die before anyone got to read it

QueenAdrock
04-02-2007, 02:50 PM
pubic was wrong?

Bob
04-02-2007, 02:57 PM
it's kind of a catch-22

i think

i don't actually know what a catch-22 is

Dorothy Wood
04-02-2007, 03:01 PM
it's kind of a catch-22

i think

i don't actually know what a catch-22 is


if you think you're crazy, you're not.

QueenAdrock
04-02-2007, 03:01 PM
A catch-22 is something where both things depend on each other in order for it to work, and is kinda circular.

Like, you can't get a job without work experience, but you can't get work experience without a job.

Bob
04-02-2007, 03:04 PM
so you won't read the post unless i bump it but i won't bump it unless...nope, that wasn't a catch 22

false alarm everybody

Freebasser
04-02-2007, 03:08 PM
Seriously though - stick that comma in.

b i o n i c
04-02-2007, 03:22 PM
change the o in committee to a u. uhhehehhehheheh

befsquire
04-02-2007, 11:22 PM
i didn't even notice pubic, i guess because i knew it was public and just read it that way.

however...

i would change the last part from "if the test is found to be invalid" to "should the test be found invalid."

Bob
04-02-2007, 11:32 PM
i didn't even notice pubic, i guess because i knew it was public and just read it that way.

however...

i would change the last part from "if the test is found to be invalid" to "should the test be found invalid."

it took me three times before i noticed it too. i didn't write that sentence, in fact it's not even my job to edit it (thank god, i'd have missed it apparently), the person who is editing it noticed it and passed it along to everybody...and i passed it on to you

i'd try to get the sentence changed per your request, but i'd seriously have to run it by like 3 subcommittees and get 12 people to agree to the change and i honestly just don't care about this project anymore, i want it to be done

befsquire
04-02-2007, 11:36 PM
it's not like they're grading it anyway, right?

it'll be our little thing to see if the teacher edits it on the paper, k?

Bob
04-03-2007, 08:06 PM
now i'm working on it

it's due in...3 days, i'm one of the last people to touch it

i'm currently fact checking, going through the footnotes to make sure they're cited correctly (which is a dick, because they're all internet cites, and the bluebook really doesn't know what the fuck it's talking about for internet cites) and also to make sure that the websites still exist and are giving out the same information that they were 3 months ago back when the paper was originally written.

i have to do this for 95 footnotes (and i'm only working on 1/4 of the paper, we split up the work)

i couldn't get motivated, so i decided to drink beer while i do it

the idea is, it's a race, i have to finish it before i get too drunk to read the small-ass font and read all these stupid websites

either way, i win

Documad
04-03-2007, 08:09 PM
No one cited the internet when I was in school. :o

Bob
04-03-2007, 08:17 PM
lucky you, it sucks

have you read the bluebook rules on citing the internet? it's nuts, there's about a billion of them, and many of them refer you to the surrounding rules for citing the things that the website most represents...like if the website is more like a pamphlet, or a book, or a periodical, or if it's an opinion that's only posted on the internet or whatnot, it changes the way you're supposed to cite it, it even changes the typeface you're supposed to use, technically. and of course you're supposed to provide an author, and a title, and pagination, but of course on the internet these things often do not exist, so depending on the circumstances, you have to summarize the title, or figure out which institution is authoring the thing, or...oh i hate it

they need a 19th edition that just comes out and says "just paste the URL, nobody cares what typeface you use"

what sucks is when a website completely disappears. some of these sites were last accessed 3 months ago, some of these websites are reorganized, some are gone...it's making me dislike the internet just a little

Documad
04-03-2007, 08:36 PM
I don't know what your paper is about, but it seems really silly to me to cite the internet in a legal paper unless you absolutely have to.

I used to be a huge bluebook geek and I suppose I'm still known for it, but the truth is that I'm out of date. Where I work we very rarely cite the internet -- it's way too unreliable, and like you said, the websites change and disappear. I did cite the internet once in an appellate brief where I was trying to get around the fact that we forgot to get something in the record at the trial court, and it took me a long time to figure out how to do it, but the website was a government agency's site so the author was obvious.

Bob
04-03-2007, 08:44 PM
basically, there's this test that's being created that's supposed to evaluate people's readiness for entry-level work, and we're analyzing it to see if there's a disparate impact...that's it in a very tiny flaky nutshell, it's not important and in fact i don't really want to talk about it

but the reason we're using the internet so much is that it's a relatively new test, it's still in development, and the bulk of the factual information about it is more readily available from the internet than anywhere else. all the legal shit is a bit more traditional, but the factual stuff really needs to be grabbed from the internet, because it's all so recent, and it keeps changing on us every time a new draft is due

Documad
04-03-2007, 08:50 PM
If you were actually working on a case, you would be able to put the documents in your record and cite them that way, instead of citing the internet. So school presents a bunch of awkward issues that aren't as big a deal in your working life.

I feel for you on the internet stuff. I feel for you on the cite checking aspect too (I'm still pissed off at the sloppy coworker I used to cite check at an early clerking job). I can assure you that you're learning skills, even if sometimes the skills you're learning aren't obvious at the time.

Bob
04-03-2007, 08:58 PM
yeah...i don't ordinarily mind cite checking, but this internet stuff is killing me. i'm fine with cases, in fact i'm pretty great with cases. statutes are harder, but i'm alright with those too. but this stuff is rough.

i feel bad for the next team to work on this, they have to implement supra into the document. we haven't been using supra or id at all because we keep editing the thing and moving stuff around, we've been saving that process for the end. id should be easy enough, but i have no fucking idea how you apply supra to internet cites. there's subtle changes to URLs, there's slightly different titles, there's dodgy paginations, i don't know exactly what constitutes a change worth noting, or what constitutes a change so drastic that you can't even use supra anymore.

but i'm not doing it, so i don't care