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yeahwho
04-09-2007, 01:34 PM
We we're right all along. How about that. I mean fucking admit it. We've been on this sight, many of us for years spouting what a bunch of bullshit Bush & Co. is. Also we've been calling out the truth on Global Warming on a regular basis.

So fuck all that guilt bullshit it is time to recognize.

Smugness.

QueenAdrock
04-09-2007, 02:06 PM
Mmmm yeah, that feels good. (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=559460&postcount=19) The best feeling in the world is KNOWING you're going to be right, knowing that majority won't believe that you're going to be right, and then smearing it in their faces later on just how RIGHT YOU WERE.

*puts feet up on coffee table*

Documad
04-09-2007, 04:59 PM
I think of this all the time when I'm driving my car. Remember how much shit Eddie Vedder got for speaking out against the war? He put up with the booing and was respectful to his audience and tried to explain his position, even when many of his fans were complete idiots.

I was a little behind the curve. I never supported the war but I was complacent. I didn't do anything to protest or speak out against it until the invasion was already underway. My friend's parents (both about 70 years old at the time) flew to DC to protest BEFORE the invasion. I was such a lazy sack of shit.

yeahwho
04-09-2007, 08:16 PM
It has just come to a point were I'm tired of debating or convincing, of being gentle or kind with people who have been wrong on point after point. I'm glad I'm able to sort out bullshit, I'm glad I'm able to go through my posts and categorically see I'm firing on all cylinders.

I spend many hours a week reading multiple newspapers and differing points of view from books to periodicals and the conclusions my thinking processes have arrived at are accurate to the nth degree.

I haven't searched for definitive statements but I'm sure I can find some, especially on the Iraq war, Documad and QueenAdrock are two shining examples of people who should have huge smugness rights.

Go ahead people, admit it, your kicking ass, don't be ashamed. Smugness. I've got it and I'm going to fucking flaunt it.

Bob
04-09-2007, 08:23 PM
probably not a great idea

yeahwho
04-09-2007, 08:47 PM
probably not a great idea

You have to be smug to know how the enemy operates. How smug does Rove, Cheney, Bush, O'Reilly, all of these morons behave...they are smug squared when they are completely wrong.

So fuck it, throw caution to the wind and be a little smug. Be huge smug. Just for a day or two.

It's perfectly legal

smug /smʌg/
–adjective, smug·ger, smug·gest.
1. contentedly confident of one's ability, superiority, or correctness; complacent.
2. trim; spruce; smooth; sleek.
[Origin: 1545–55; perh. < MD smuc neat, pretty, nice]

—Related forms
smugly, adverb
smugness, noun
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

smug (smŭg) Pronunciation Key
adj. smug·ger, smug·gest
Exhibiting or feeling great or offensive satisfaction with oneself or with one's situation; self-righteously complacent: "the smug look of a toad breakfasting on fat marsh flies" (William Pearson).


[Perhaps akin to Low German smuck, neat, from Middle Low German, from smucken, to adorn.]

smug'ly adv., smug'ness
smugness

noun
an excessive feeling of self-satisfaction

King PSYZ
04-09-2007, 08:48 PM
We're bringin' smuggness back

GreenEarthAl
04-09-2007, 11:36 PM
I went to protest the war before the occupation began.

I don't know what good smugness will do for all of those on the receiving end of our barbarism and our economic avalanche. Hard to feel self-satisfied about having been able to accurately predict misery and carnage for so many people.

D_Raay
04-10-2007, 05:01 AM
I never had a doubt about it at all. What still amazes me is how some people still don't get it.

Drederick Tatum
04-10-2007, 05:22 AM
hard to feel smug when innocent people who have already suffered enough are getting blown up daily and the world's most powerful country sends 19 and 20 year olds into a meatgrinder of a country to try and save an already lost situation.

QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 10:43 AM
True. The feeling I have most of anything is frustration. There's only a few times in my life I've KNOWN I was right. Like, no doubt in my mind that what I was predicting would come true. One was when I told my exboyfriend he WOULD be caught stealing. The other time was when I told Bush supporters Bush WOULD make a bad situation worse and drive us further into the hole economically. I warned them and was desperate to get them to see my side, and I begged them to believe that what I was saying would be true. Both times, I was ignored, and both times I was right. So while I can now confidently say what I said was true, and make the people who doubted me feel bad for not believing me, in the long run it doesn't matter. It's just frustrating to predict something and have no one believe you, no one to listen, and all you can do is sit and watch it happen. The satisfaction of saying you were right all along definitely does not outweigh the sad consequences that you have to endure.

However, perhaps next time we can pull it up and say "Remember when you didn't think this would happen?" the next time people support an evil regime. I doubt it will work, but maybe they'll give our crazy predictions a little bit more credibility. Maybe.

Ali
04-10-2007, 10:45 AM
What's the point in being right when people are dead and half the Middle East is in turmoil?

You shouldn't feel smug, you should feel helpless and frustrated and ANGRY!

I do.

yeahwho
04-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Yeah, thats it, I'm smug because people and the planet are dying.

Fuck get a clue.

Ever wonder why your point is missed?

abcdefz
04-10-2007, 01:15 PM
SMUG LIFE

Documad
04-10-2007, 10:41 PM
I went to protest the war before the occupation began.

I don't know what good smugness will do for all of those on the receiving end of our barbarism and our economic avalanche. Hard to feel self-satisfied about having been able to accurately predict misery and carnage for so many people.
Good for you, seriously good for you! And you're right about the cost. I truly can't sleep sometimes wondering exactly how bad the cost will be. Not the dead bodies but the long term cost of the US being caught with our pants down in such an important area of the world.


I have outright smugness in one area: I adore the guy who shares a wall with me at work. He's brilliant. We agree on almost everything in work, entertainment, morals, etc. But he was for the war -- strongly for the war. Every time I would voice concern, he would dismiss me. When I watched the early news coverage with the imbedded reporters I found it disgusting because the reporters were having so much fun. He disagreed. I'd ask questions about the cost, he poo pooed me. I asked questions about what our ultimate goal was and he gave me black and white answers. I haven't ever said "I told you so" but I have dropped references to how bad the war is going and he looks at his feet. :p

DroppinScience
04-11-2007, 12:51 AM
Against the war since September 12, 2002. :cool:

QueenAdrock
04-11-2007, 07:12 AM
Against the war since January 20, 2001. :cool:

DroppinScience
04-11-2007, 12:41 PM
Against the war since January 20, 2001. :cool:

Wait, you were against it before it was even proposed? :confused:

QueenAdrock
04-11-2007, 01:09 PM
War was a possibility ever since Bush took office, duh.

DroppinScience
04-11-2007, 01:11 PM
War was a possibility ever since Bush took office, duh.

So you're clairvoyant? :eek:

abcdefz
04-11-2007, 01:26 PM
You guys should snag a copy of Newsweek from a couple weeks back that was devoted to reprinting letters that now-dead soldiers wrote home, saying goodbye. I had tears on the very first one I read and couldn't even finish them.

Bob
04-11-2007, 01:31 PM
i would like to say for the record that at this moment i am currently against this war and any future wars that may occur or be contemplated with or without the public knowledge for the next, i dunno, 20 years

so when they happen i can so fucking rub your ugly faces in it and say i told you so, MMPH! it's gonna feel so good, i can't wait, i called all these wars way before any of you, i don't think i've ever been righter than i'm going to be in the future

abcdefz
04-11-2007, 01:36 PM
I was against the last three Star Wars!

QueenAdrock
04-11-2007, 02:31 PM
I was against the last three Star Wars since 1976.

abcdefz
04-11-2007, 02:33 PM
Interesting timeline.

Bob
04-11-2007, 03:01 PM
i was against them a long time ago

yeahwho
04-11-2007, 04:16 PM
I was against the whole Faraway Galaxy thing during the American Graffiti.

Ali
04-12-2007, 05:28 AM
I'm against this thread.

yeahwho
04-12-2007, 07:05 AM
I am still smug. I don't care. I have had it with insanity and deplorable acts by this current administration in power of the USA.

Cheney still spouts the Al Quaeda/Iraq connection.

The emergency war money being debated is going to come out of our pockets, not the people who'll profit from this bloody failure.

Our pentagon is putting extended tours of duty on a military stretched to a fine thin thread, with a broken hospital to come home to.

Bush once again will veto stem cell research.

Torture.

Criminal acts by upper echelon presidential advisors.

Blanket firing of US Attorneys for which all intent purposes is political.

Just last week the Supreme Court decided the EPA should do it's job and curtail Carbon emissions. It's insane.

The list goes on.

I'm not going to sit around and feel helpless, frustrated or angry. I'm going to remain calm and confident that what I believe to be a lie, is a lie. Last year I was on a negotiating team at work, the lead negotiator for the company always opened up talks with some "Bombshell" that had my fellow negotiators all up in a arms, over nothing. It was a distraction, it threw them off their game plan and made the day turn into a long painful unproductive waste of time.

It became obvious that this was a favorite strategy of the companies lead negotiator, after a dozen meetings we all were on the same page and actually feeling smug about winning gains in the process. Which we did.

IMHO, if the people who really have the ability to see the atrocities happening around them and are able to articulate how they want change without emotional reactions, they will achieve change.

I'm not advocating smugness as an ends to a means, just as a way to say to yourself, "Hey I have been correct in my evaluations of the current events around me" and now I am confident in my abilities to project what my beliefs are in a way that will make change.

Without ever meeting me and lets say the dozen or so people on here posting were in a room together, you would never figure me to be the guy to start a thread called "Smugness". I do not behave that way at all. I'm too busy laughing my ass off all day and night.

Give yourself some credit. You deserve it. Once you do it empowers you to make the right things happen.