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midzi
04-10-2007, 10:21 AM
Miramanee has received an email from her friend who works at Bboy's record label, which confirms that the album will be instrumental and is to be released in June. She was kind to share the contents of it here (http://mic-to-mic.blogspot.com/2007/04/definitely-instrumental-album-in-june.html).
I wonder if this instrumental thing means there will be no lyrics or just that the songs will be with instruments. I hope for the latter.
Deep_Sea_Rain
04-10-2007, 10:26 AM
At this point I think I've given up on any hip hop cuts...hopefully we'll at least see some lyrics.
cj hood
04-10-2007, 10:57 AM
I wonder if this instrumental thing means there will be no lyrics or just that the songs will be with instruments. I hope for the latter.
either way its shit...
martijn
04-10-2007, 11:08 AM
either way its shit...
why are you saying it is shit, you didn't hear the new album yet!
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 11:31 AM
Thanks for sharing the scoop.
June - We're 8-12 weeks away...(y)
Lex Diamonds
04-10-2007, 12:15 PM
What happened to "non-stop hip-hop"?
DeeJayZap
04-10-2007, 12:20 PM
yeah, i thought they couldnt, wouldnt and doudnt stop?
Lex Diamonds
04-10-2007, 12:31 PM
Looks like Yauch's grey hairs have overtaken his rhymes in number.
MC Boulangerie
04-10-2007, 12:42 PM
What happened to "non-stop hip-hop"?
:(
martijn
04-10-2007, 12:43 PM
What happened to "non-stop hip-hop"?
ehm wasn't tt5b a hip hop only album??? now it's time for some instrumental stuff.
hannes7
04-10-2007, 12:58 PM
This Album will kick your ass.
New Beastie Albums always kick ass.
Meatloaf
04-10-2007, 01:02 PM
(y)
Bring it on!
Lex Diamonds
04-10-2007, 01:09 PM
I wasn't happy when they announced TT5B was all hip-hop either. Why can't they just make a Beastie Boys album? They keep forcing themselves into these niches, "hip-hop album", "instrumental album". That's not what the Beastie Boys used to be about. Hello Nasty was a "hip-hop/punk/rock/bossa nova/reggae + more album".
martijn
04-10-2007, 01:14 PM
I wasn't happy when they announced TT5B was all hip-hop either. Why can't they just make a Beastie Boys album? They keep forcing themselves into these niches, "hip-hop album", "instrumental album". That's not what the Beastie Boys used to be about. Hello Nasty was a "hip-hop/punk/rock/bossa nova/reggae + more album".
Yeah ok, i wish they made something like CYH and Ill Comm to but im glad they are at least picking up their instruments for the new album.
Meatloaf
04-10-2007, 01:19 PM
Why can't they just make a Beastie Boys album?
They are. They're doing what they want to do.
Wouldn't you?
DandyFop
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
I will admit, I was listening to Check Your Head today, and the flow of the different tracks was just incredible. While I'm not sure that anything could really live up to that album (for me), it would be nice to see that kind of mix of different styles. Ah well, I am excited for it regardless.
Brother McDuff
04-10-2007, 02:04 PM
i'm not looking forward to all the bitching that's gonna commence when the instrumental drops from all of the narrow, "hip-hop only" heads. the naysayers should look at the record as an opportunity to "open your mind for a sec".
Junker
04-10-2007, 02:17 PM
I think It'll have some hip hop yes. (y)
cj hood
04-10-2007, 02:20 PM
hiphop is dead!
try doing a tour with no hiphop......should work out well.......
yanni makes a pretty good living, me thinks...
http://board.yanni.com/6/ubb.x
cj hood
04-10-2007, 02:24 PM
yanni should rap.........apparently fans love it when they're band does a 180......its incredible........screamin hey ladies.......why bother?
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 03:09 PM
yanni should rap.........apparently fans love it when they're band does a 180......its incredible........screamin hey ladies.......why bother?
But the band hasn't done a 180. They had smooth funk and instrumentals back on CYH in '92...it's not like this is something completely different.
They explored all hip hop on TT5B, and now they're exploring an instrumental. It's just another addition to their very creative resume'. They're not quitting rhyming, just like they didn't quit their instruments when they recorded TT5B. (y)
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 03:11 PM
i'm not looking forward to all the bitching that's gonna commence when the instrumental drops from all of the narrow, "hip-hop only" heads. the naysayers should look at the record as an opportunity to "open your mind for a sec".
Actually, I am looking forward to all the bitching that's gonna commence when the instrumental drops from all of the narrow, "hip-hop only" heads. the naysayers should look at the record as an opportunity to "open your mind for a sec". :D
knipri
04-10-2007, 04:21 PM
My favorite instrument is the 808.
Funkyfreshgrape
04-10-2007, 04:24 PM
and this is what i didn't want! :( 100% instrumental album! it better be good!:mad:
paulb
04-10-2007, 04:55 PM
and this is what i didn't want! :( 100% instrumental album! it better be good!:mad:
who gives a fuck what you wanted. Bboys put out whatever the hell they want, and we are damn lucky to be getting anything at this time.
balohna
04-10-2007, 04:58 PM
I like it better when bands do what they want as opposed to what the fans want. It makes the music better. There are some hip-hop fans that only listen to Paul's Boutique because they like the beats and stuff, there are some rock fans that only listen to IC because of the rock radio play that album got, etc. If they had just stuck to that LTI style they would have faded out after White House.
JobDDT
04-10-2007, 05:15 PM
either way its shit...
No. Lyrics + Instruments = Very Good.
You couldn't be any more wrong.
Funkyfreshgrape
04-10-2007, 05:29 PM
who gives a fuck what you wanted. Bboys put out whatever the hell they want, and we are damn lucky to be getting anything at this time.
yeah i guess :(
Darko
04-10-2007, 05:31 PM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
Funkyfreshgrape
04-10-2007, 05:34 PM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
ok...:D i thought its was all gonna be like, ya know 'son of neckbon' :p
from what i've been told, it will take a few listens to get into it.
DandyFop
04-10-2007, 06:02 PM
hiphop is dead!
try doing a tour with no hiphop......should work out well.......
You are such a douchebag.
If you don't like them anymore because of this I guess you might as well get off the board now instead of repeating your same tired ass jokes over and over again.
If there is anything close to something like Live at PJ's I will have a joygasm.
I am soooo excited!! :)
Mr. Juice
04-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I also have an acquaintance at the Beastie’s label and they (notice how I’m not giving away their gender) said the label wouldn’t put out an instrumental album. Leading up to the release of the Beastie Boys Hello Nasty, word on the street was that it was going to sound like a War album. As we all know, that didn’t happen. Those Beasties are a slippery bunch!
SugarInTheRaw
04-10-2007, 06:48 PM
I also have an acquaintance at the Beastie’s label and they (notice how I’m not giving away their gender) said the label wouldn’t put out an instrumental album. Leading up to the release of the Beastie Boys Hello Nasty, word on the street was that it was going to sound like a War album. As we all know, that didn’t happen. Those Beasties are a slippery bunch!
Slippier than a Mississippi sturgeon.
What you drinkin' maaaaaaan?
MIKEtotheD
04-10-2007, 07:01 PM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
Live At PJ's is one of my favorite songs, so I'm down with that. (y)
JohnnyChavello
04-10-2007, 07:32 PM
I remember reading that Yauch wanted Check Your Head to be entirely instrumental. I think the idea of an instrumental album has been on his list of things to do for a long time. He may have finally got his wish.
cj hood
04-10-2007, 07:57 PM
You are such a douchebag.
If you don't like them anymore because of this I guess you might as well get off the board now instead of repeating your same tired ass jokes over and over again.
If there is anything close to something like Live at PJ's I will have a joygasm.
I am soooo excited!! :)
ya....i'm sure its going to be 15 'live at pjs' like trax......its gonna be some goofy james bond type shit.......whatever man.....release it as an ep and not a major album and follow it up quicky with a hiphop release like they did with Oligo/HN!
pm0ney
04-10-2007, 08:02 PM
yanni should rap.........apparently fans love it when they're band does a 180......its incredible........screamin hey ladies.......why bother?
Haha!
pm0ney
04-10-2007, 08:06 PM
On the real though, how will they promote this? When TT5B was announced that it would see a June release, the first single was released in April. It's approaching mid-April right now and there is absolutely no word on any single that will be released. How are they going to play an instrumental music video? Or an instrumental track on commercial radio?
I'm just afraid this will slip them into mainstream obscurity.
b i o n i c
04-10-2007, 08:11 PM
How are they going to play an instrumental music video?
creatively
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 08:18 PM
On the real though, how will they promote this? When TT5B was announced that it would see a June release, the first single was released in April. It's approaching mid-April right now and there is absolutely no word on any single that will be released. How are they going to play an instrumental music video? Or an instrumental track on commercial radio?
I'm just afraid this will slip them into mainstream obscurity.
I don't think they've been "mainstream" for a long time. In my opinion, they are seen as elderstatemen who get respect for their lengthy and successful career. I don't think they are necessarily looking to top the charts and be on all the magazine covers.
Whatever they put out will get them some moderate radio play. I'd love it if they did some small jazz club type gigs with the instrumental sets. (y)
Our local "alternative" radio station played BS2000 and gave away tix to their show when they rolled through Chicago back in '01.
But I guess, we'll have to wait and see.
pm0ney
04-10-2007, 08:21 PM
Well, no offense but it doesnt really matter if you think their mainstream or not because the video for Ch Check It Out got heavy rotation on MTV and MTV 2, and To The Five Boroughs debuted at number 1 and went platinum. Thats a lot more mainstream than say, the last Limp Bizkit album or something.
I dont mean to say that success should be measured by rotation on MTV or album sales, but its always great to see my favorite band be successful.
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 08:25 PM
Well, no offense but it doesnt really matter if you think their mainstream or not because the video for Ch Check It Out got heavy rotation on MTV and MTV 2, and To The Five Boroughs debuted at number 1 and went platinum. Thats a lot more mainstream than say, the last Limp Bizkit album or something.
I dont mean to say that success should be measured by rotation on MTV or album sales, but its always great to see my favorite band be successful.
Yeah...I agree. TT5B was commercially successful and attracted a lot of new fans and did have a respectable rotation, etc.
But I just didn't feel the same "mainstream vibe" that they got during the HN heyday. But hell...what do I know. :)
pm0ney
04-10-2007, 08:28 PM
Yeah...I agree. TT5B was commercially successful and attracted a lot of new fans and did have a respectable rotation, etc.
But I just didn't feel the same "mainstream vibe" that they got during the HN heyday. But hell...what do I know. :)
I shouldnt have said it like that, I hope I didn't come off arrogant or anything. You are right in a sense, mainly in the fact that there are degrees of mainstream. The Hello Nasty heyday they sold something like 700,000 copies of HN in the first week. So, they were the hottest thing around at that point. That level of mainstream I dont think will be met again.
DandyFop
04-10-2007, 08:34 PM
I don't know why but I am expecting this release to be extremely low-key, no singles that are on MTV or anything, but I don't know...I don't really keep up with that side of everything anyway.
Brother McDuff
04-10-2007, 08:55 PM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
sounds like beastie denial to me. rather wishful thinking. this would be a sweet surprise, but I think instrumental means "instrumental". oh well, i hope you're right.:o
cptmarginal
04-10-2007, 09:29 PM
It's really amazing how many people here seem not to know that the Beasties already have an instrumental album out! Even if it is just a compilation of tracks, in what way would them doing an album like that constitute a 180? And besides, who actually expects or wants them to do something to fulfill a narrow-minded conception of what their band or music is? They will still be playing for the people who like their music, so it's not about some BS of not caring what anyone thinks and being totally self-indulgent.
A better way to put it would be: the Beasties have six fucking amazing classics under their belt, as well as having perpetuated a lifestyle that many people subscribe(d) to (via GR mag), not to mention releasing amazing bands on GR and most importantly never falling off. When you think they've fallen off, you've really just been left behind. Questioning their choices is all well and good, but please don't delude yourselves into thinking that your conception of the situation in any way reflects the reality of it.
I for one am hoping for more than just funk or jazz or samba or what-have-you out of this one. Some punk rock songs would be super-cool. Think early NYC style punk, not hardcore. Though that would be great too.
pshabi
04-10-2007, 09:45 PM
I agree with McDuff above. Anyone thinking this is going to be hip hop over live instrumentation is in denial. This is going to be "instrumental" music. That means, no lyrics, no rhyming, no singing, no screaming, no lyrics.
Look, they're promoting the "instrumental" shows as a gala event. It's not going to be hip hop.
I'm happy the bboys are putting out something new for us. I'd be lying if I said I was thrilled about the direction they're taking this. That said, I'll be waiting when the stores open and I'll be playing the shit out of this release.
Pootytang
04-10-2007, 09:52 PM
I'll be waiting when the stores open and I'll be playing the shit out of this release.
OH WORD!
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 09:53 PM
This community is slowly putting me off this band.
Knuckles
04-10-2007, 10:02 PM
This community is slowly putting me off this band.
words right out of my mouth
:(
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 10:02 PM
This community is slowly putting me off this band.
Have you considered antidepressants? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=78792) (lb)
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 10:05 PM
words right out of my mouth
:(
Fuck I'm really happy somebody is hearing that. Especially yourself, Knucks. (y)
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 10:10 PM
Have you considered antidepressants? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=78792) (lb)
I'm just not interested anymore. Stupid emails and scoops are destroying this band for me. You guys can all have fun spoiling the surprise, and sneaking into private shows. And the torrential flush of idiotic speculation deserves its own sub-forum.
I know M thinks she's doing things for the fans; she's really only helping her fans. I have received some good scoops off the lady, so I won't hate. But I'm over this. The group has taken on a personality through its fans that I don't connect with (like Marilyn Manson).
In the words of the late, great Rich Cheney: They're not my band anymore.
Documad
04-10-2007, 10:22 PM
When they announced the Pageant Tour I thought they were over the hill and would suck. They didn't. In fact, I got kind of addicted to the live shows again.
I never imagined that I'd see Beasties live on a movie screen at my local theater and I did. I even got to drag my friends to the show!
I never thought I'd have a chance to see them live in 2006 and I saw them do some incredible shows.
I never dreamed they would do a tour in 2007, and even if I don't get to a show myself, I am glad that many many other people will.
When they started that camera in the studio thing, I never thought we would see an album in 2007.
When the news dribbles out in little bits, many of us tend to imagine the worst and start sniping about it. Given the track record of this band when it comes to exceeding my expectations, I'm not going to snipe this time.
AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE IN SOUND, Cpt. Marginal. This is different. This appears to be an album they're touring behind. :)
Knuckles
04-10-2007, 10:23 PM
Fuck I'm really happy somebody is hearing that. Especially yourself, Knucks. (y)
I'm hooked into reading all the stupid (but entertaining) crap in Beastie General so I usually end up stopping in here to see if there is anything worth reading. I should just stay out of this area. Sure, it's nice to see if an actual concert or album release date is posted but other than that...
well... it's just stupid.
All the speculation and detective work...all the arguing about the band's "integrity"... all the bitching about what the album "may" be like...
it's all quite idiotic.
Can someone just pm me the actual album release date when it comes out so I don't have to come here and read all this crap? :D
Documad
04-10-2007, 10:26 PM
KP -- I know what you're saying. I feel that way about most things. I don't want to know how everything is being assembled, I'd rather sit back and enjoy the final product.
I've had that issue a lot with my job lately. You really don't want to know how the sausage is made.
Some people enjoy the speculation. It makes me sick to my tummy.
Documad
04-10-2007, 10:32 PM
By the way, I don't in any way mean to criticize Midzi for starting the thread. Many people come here to catch the latest gossip and speculate and they should get to do that too.
YoungRemy
04-10-2007, 10:40 PM
i anticipate the sonic vibrations of the beastie boys forthcoming musical endeavor
-YoungRemy
and you can quote me on that too!
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 10:41 PM
I don't really feel like a fan of the group anymore. Because what I do doesn't fit in with the requirements. And I'm not really excited about what could stand to be the only Beastie album you could play safely in a cafe. I will say that it's a good thing that all these people who are easily led will be exposed to some good (I'm assuming) instrumental sounds, becuase it's no mean feat taking listeners into whatever realm is suiting an artist at any particular time. I'm sure many will feel like they've heard it all before, so I digress.
I had hoped that they would delay the album and really think about what they are putting out this time around. They started as a goof, sure. But over time they seem to be taking music less seriously each consecutive release. If this album delivers what I expect (which I can only hope it doesn't) then I will need to check myself; if I am taking music more seriously than the Beasties, am I taking it too seriously, or are they not serious enough about their craft?
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 10:42 PM
-YoungRemy
and you can quote me on that too!
I wish I was like you. Easily amused.
Documad
04-10-2007, 10:46 PM
I think the band faces a smaller and smaller audience and they have to figure out what they want to do about that. I'm glad that they haven't tried to be artificially young. I'm really glad about that because that would make them too embarrassing for me.
I'll be honest in expressing what I think when the time comes, but there's no point in getting worked up ahead of time. I really thought that they were finished in 2003, so this is all gravy. :p
Laver1969
04-10-2007, 10:51 PM
I really thought that they were finished in 2003, so this is all gravy. :p
I had the exact same thought after they toured in '95 after IC.
I said to myself that they are almost 30 and it'd be great if they came out with one more album and tour.
Lo_Lyfe
04-10-2007, 10:52 PM
I think the band faces a smaller and smaller audience and they have to figure out what they want to do about that. I'm glad that they haven't tried to be artificially young. I'm really glad about that because that would make them too embarrassing for me.
I'll be honest in expressing what I think when the time comes, but there's no point in getting worked up ahead of time. I really thought that they were finished in 2003, so this is all gravy. :p
Well Put.
cptmarginal
04-10-2007, 11:12 PM
AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE IN SOUND, Cpt. Marginal. This is different. This appears to be an album they're touring behind. :)
I know the difference, but reading through this thread it seems like a lot of people think this a totally new direction. Well, at least a significant enough number for me to say WTF
The group has taken on a personality through its fans that I don't connect with
I agree
Brother McDuff
04-10-2007, 11:22 PM
I don't really feel like a fan of the group anymore. Because what I do doesn't fit in with the requirements.
I had hoped that they would delay the album and really think about what they are putting out this time around. They started as a goof, sure. But over time they seem to be taking music less seriously each consecutive release. If this album delivers what I expect (which I can only hope it doesn't) then I will need to check myself; if I am taking music more seriously than the Beasties, am I taking it too seriously, or are they not serious enough about their craft?
i think you're thinking too deeply into it, homes.
"Hit, shmit. What we've been doing all along is making the music we felt like making, so we're just gonna continue to do that." –Adam Yauch
Boston Globe, November 3, 1989
i'm aware this quote was from light years ago, but it deems truer than ever at this point in their career. i feel like you're paralleling "taking music seriously" with "keeping your fans happy". i think it's a much stronger show of taking your music seriously when you choose to focus on a style that's potentially unmarketable and by many fans undesirable. it goes to show that they're more interested in what they want to make than what the fans want them to make. a sacrifice like that epitomizes taking your music seriously.
on a side note, i think it was you that said earlier that this board kills your drive as a fan, and i agree totally. but it'd be truly a shame to lose interest in the bboys simply because of a handful of pathetic sacks that lurk around the board like trolls rather than from a natural loss of interest due to the direct music or behavior coming from the beastie camp itself. the board's in a sad state as of late, but that's no fault on the band's part; it's essential to remember this.(y)
dirtydan11
04-10-2007, 11:24 PM
new album in June.............sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
that's like next week the way my life flies hahaha can't wait
Justin
04-10-2007, 11:31 PM
"im not gonna change up my style just to fit in!"
The Beastie Boys have given us more than enough! Anything they give us now is just an added bonus(y)
Nomen Nescio
04-10-2007, 11:37 PM
I won't complain one second right now. The Boys are making music. You know it's gonna be NICE. I'm happy.
Jitters
04-10-2007, 11:55 PM
This is kind of depressing :(
An entirely instumental album is really coming out of left field, it's going to be tough to promote the album and it doesn't sound like something the label would want to go through in the first place.
This leak of info sounds pretty real and if it's true then I'm kind of disappointed there won't be ANY type of vocals.
DandyFop
04-11-2007, 12:06 AM
I won't complain one second right now. The Boys are making music. You know it's gonna be NICE. I'm happy.
(y)
martijn
04-11-2007, 12:26 AM
I don't really feel like a fan of the group anymore. Because what I do doesn't fit in with the requirements. And I'm not really excited about what could stand to be the only Beastie album you could play safely in a cafe. I will say that it's a good thing that all these people who are easily led will be exposed to some good (I'm assuming) instrumental sounds, becuase it's no mean feat taking listeners into whatever realm is suiting an artist at any particular time. I'm sure many will feel like they've heard it all before, so I digress.
I had hoped that they would delay the album and really think about what they are putting out this time around. They started as a goof, sure. But over time they seem to be taking music less seriously each consecutive release. If this album delivers what I expect (which I can only hope it doesn't) then I will need to check myself; if I am taking music more seriously than the Beasties, am I taking it too seriously, or are they not serious enough about their craft?
i think you are talking a lot of bullshit
you are saying they are taking music less serously??? omg what are you talking about... they are playing their instruments on the new album i think that is verry musical!!! and you are saying your taking music more seriously than the beasties? what a joke!
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 01:07 AM
i think you are talking a lot of bullshit
you are saying they are taking music less serously??? omg what are you talking about... they are playing their instruments on the new album i think that is verry musical!!! and you are saying your taking music more seriously than the beasties? what a joke!
You don't seem to actually have an opinion, though. You just foist the idea that I am an idiot upon your ones of fans. I get that you didn't like TT5B.
The thing that causes me bother is the idea of a completely instrumental album. But then, with all of the ignorant bitching about the group's social and political views, maybe they're just speaking a language the fans can finally understand.
I would hate for them to put out something bland and non-descript. I doubt they will, but these instrumentals must have character by the bucketload if they're as good as people are expecting.
titou lapraline
04-11-2007, 03:18 AM
I don't know if the album will be entirely instrumental, but,
in the one hand, we've never seen them singing in the
studio cam,and in the the other hand, I 've already seen
the 3 boys very concentrated in writing something..
lyrics or not lyrics..that is the question...:rolleyes:
balohna
04-11-2007, 04:06 AM
considering their background I very much doubt they were writing sheet music.
Michelle*s_Farm
04-11-2007, 04:36 AM
i think you're thinking too deeply into it, homes.
"Hit, shmit. What we've been doing all along is making the music we felt like making, so we're just gonna continue to do that." –Adam Yauch
Boston Globe, November 3, 1989
on a side note, i think it was you that said earlier that this board kills your drive as a fan, and i agree totally. but it'd be truly a shame to lose interest in the bboys simply because of a handful of pathetic sacks that lurk around..(y)
Nice Yauch quote -- thanks for sharing it.
Yes there is something pathological about particular (but not all) postings on this board. I think certain posters desire a mainstream justification for their interest in the band. It is like the height of the Beastie Boys' success was when everyone in NYC was listening to She's on It (or worse when LTI was released upon the burbs). Strange from my perspective but it is probably common on other band's message boards as well (debates over Kid A versus OK Computer directions). I have several favourite points in the Beastie's musical career (below are just some of them in no special order):
1) Their hardcore days
2) LTI
3) Paul's Boutique
4) Check Your Head's release and live shows
5) In Sounds From Way Out
6) Beastie's with Elvis Costello on SNL
7) Criterion DVD
8) Letterman performance in 2004
9) MSG show -- great in so many ways
10) The new studio
11) Anticipating the possibility of an interesting new LP where they play some instruments. By the way I am sure there will be some vocals on it.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 05:15 AM
All that I am interested in is whether there are vocals present or not. I could give a fuck about mainstream shit.
pesto pizza
04-11-2007, 05:48 AM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
i so hope so, that would be the style to come back with.
Junker
04-11-2007, 06:18 AM
The beats and music are going to be done with instruments, there will still be hip-hop. You remember how 'Live at PJ's' was a mix of both? Expect the album to sound like that.
Then this will be their best album cause Live at PJ's is absolutely incredible.. (y)
cj hood
04-11-2007, 06:22 AM
I'm just not interested anymore. Stupid emails and scoops are destroying this band for me. You guys can all have fun spoiling the surprise, and sneaking into private shows. And the torrential flush of idiotic speculation deserves its own sub-forum.
I know M thinks she's doing things for the fans; she's really only helping her fans. I have received some good scoops off the lady, so I won't hate. But I'm over this. The group has taken on a personality through its fans that I don't connect with (like Marilyn Manson).
In the words of the late, great Rich Cheney: They're not my band anymore.
cosigning........you're my new favorite member kp!
if the mb put out timely newsletters i wouldn't even be here.......beasties got me into hiphop and they're a hiphop group..........they do other stuff, but at the end of the day they're hiphop.......the only thing that keeps me on here is people's ignorance.....
and the line about m' doing things not for the beasties fans, but for her own fans is priceless.......most fans, admins and the band know her intentions are skewed......why her fans don't realize that...i'll never know......
dave790
04-11-2007, 06:28 AM
Some people enjoy the speculation. It makes me sick to my tummy.
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also, even at the worse points, i don't let other people take away what the beasties mean to me. i mean so what, lots of the other fans of the band seem like cunts, that's nowt to do with the beastie boys and why i like them. i'm looking forward to just hearing the album.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 06:46 AM
i'm looking forward to just hearing the album.
I'll cosign this. I suppose boredom is causing this community to eat itself.
dave790
04-11-2007, 07:01 AM
it's mad.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 07:03 AM
I think it looks like I'm shit-stirring. I'm not trying to at all. I just want to hear something. Fuck, why can't they fling out the rarities disc?
martijn
04-11-2007, 07:17 AM
cosigning........you're my new favorite member kp!
if the mb put out timely newsletters i wouldn't even be here.......beasties got me into hiphop and they're a hiphop group..........they do other stuff, but at the end of the day they're hiphop.......the only thing that keeps me on here is people's ignorance.....
and the line about m' doing things not for the beasties fans, but for her own fans is priceless.......most fans, admins and the band know her intentions are skewed......why her fans don't realize that...i'll never know......
THEY ARE NOT ONLY HIP HOP, man they even started as a hardcoreband! the beastie boys are everything, hip hop, hardcore, funk and all the other styles i forgot............
DJ Pioneer
04-11-2007, 08:30 AM
They already released the "Solid Gold Hits" compilation. It kind of makes me think this album will be way more low-key. When they released the official greatest hits, I figured it was the end so news of this new album made me happy.
I'm sure it'll be good no matter what it is. I enjoy their rhymes and hip hop beats, but at least you could expect a high-quality release. When did they ever completely let anyone down? (y)
Whether it's jazz, funk or something we haven't even heard before, there's a huge easy listening market that will keep them in elevators and 'on hold' music for the rest of eternity.
I imagine that it's going to be stuff we can't even speculate about and some will love it, some will hate it (just like TT5B) and we'll get to see a side of them that will be entertaining nonetheless.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 10:40 AM
Whether it's jazz, funk or something we haven't even heard before, there's a huge easy listening market that will keep them in elevators and 'on hold' music for the rest of eternity.
I imagine that it's going to be stuff we can't even speculate about and some will love it, some will hate it (just like TT5B) and we'll get to see a side of them that will be entertaining nonetheless.
Help me.
Help me.
Lock yourself in an elevator. You'll see...
tjpop
04-11-2007, 12:34 PM
I wish I was like you. Easily amused.
Lo_Lyfe get in the elevator... and then do us all a favor and put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
if everything is so wack, why you still hangin around? any and all Beastie Boys is awesome!!!!!!!
Darko
04-11-2007, 12:46 PM
There will be lyrics!
Sir SkratchaLot
04-11-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm hyped about an instrumental album. I think its funny how the "hip hop headz" are all compliaining about it because every real hip hopper I know LOVES instrumental music, which is where all the breaks and beats are comming from in the first place. I.e. anybody who knows shit about hip hop is already into instrumental music of all genres.
Anyway, it should be cool (unless Yauch tries to get all touchy feely and sing again).
Sir SkratchaLot
04-11-2007, 12:53 PM
There will be lyrics!
The moon is made of swiss cheese!
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm hyped about an instrumental album. I think its funny how the "hip hop headz" are all compliaining about it because every real hip hopper I know LOVES instrumental music, which is where all the breaks and beats are comming from in the first place. I.e. anybody who knows shit about hip hop is already into instrumental music of all genres.
You're assuming that.
I'm not complaining about there being no hip-hop. What are you going to do? Sample the stuff yourself? Well, I'll be a waiting a while to hear the results of that, I'm sure.
My tastes are as diverse as can be, I'm just not into the idea of non-vocal stylings. It could be great, though.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 01:14 PM
Lo_Lyfe get in the elevator... and then do us all a favor and put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
if everything is so wack, why you still hangin around? any and all Beastie Boys is awesome!!!!!!!
I'm hanging around so the board doesn't sink to the nadir you promise to bring. I hope the Beastie Boys make fun of me, those newly-grinning scallywags.
If there's anybody's house they should play, it's mine. My Mum would be there.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 01:18 PM
Yes, I've been an icorrigible bastard, I know. They could do a variety of instrumental types I guess. Couldn't they? I mean when you hear "instrumental", do you think of stupid expressions like jazz/funk? I think of the opening minute of 'The Rover'.
Pricks.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 01:26 PM
Ooh some sweet metal instrumentals would be awesome, but I don't think they are that good guitarists.
A lot of that shit is just glorified bass-playing. Like the hardcore songs are pretty much two-note chords. Pretty much, I say.
balohna
04-11-2007, 01:44 PM
I hope it's nothing like anything they've released before. Some sort of bizarre fusion of everything they've done and stuff they've never done.
abcdefz
04-11-2007, 01:52 PM
A lot of that shit is just glorified bass-playing. Like the hardcore songs are pretty much two-note chords. Pretty much, I say.
The Seeds -- Two great chords, five great albums!
roosta
04-11-2007, 02:22 PM
ok this topic has been/is/and will be driven round in circles and circles, but i want to get my point in.
I can't be anything but dissapointed that this is going to be an all instrumental album. Now, it could well be amazing, no reason why it wount be great. Itll porbably be very good.........But i'm still dissapointed.
I love the funky instrumentals they have done, but I love them where they are, inside a regular beasties album. I love the fact that some of their albums go on these crazy musical journeys, but I mainly love the fact that the heart of the them is still old school hip-hop. Take that away and I don't know what it will be like. I'm still excited, still can't wait....but I just fear its going to be like "cool, good album" but then not join its predecessors as CD's I will always spin.
I suppose i'm a bit of a hypocrite, I didn't like people who bitched bout TT5B being all hip-hop. But then again I suppose i'm not, because even though they weave all these styles, started as a punk-band have done all this crazy shit, they are a hip-hop crew at heart.
When I saw them on the studio cam with instruments again I was kind of excited; but i thought they'd be doing some kind of Check Your Head stuff, sampled drums, bass lines, etc. then all mashed up and distorted then with rhymes over....after the old-school throw back of TT5B it would have been a nice change. But now? Meh. Im not as excited about this as I would usially be. And when will we get a new album?
I don't wanna be shitting on a record that I havnt heard, and i am looking forward to it.. I suppose the real problem is the fear that we've heard the last of them as emcee's...or simply putting out new hip-hop. They've never been the most prolific band...
But yeah, wouldn't some songs like Live at PJs be great?
tjpop
04-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Speak for yourself.
On topic I find myself skipping the Beastie Boys' instrumental tracks more than any other of their songs.
you're right.. my bad.
power to skipping and hanging rainbow flags!
brooklyndust
04-11-2007, 02:53 PM
i posted this a couple of weeks ago in like two different threads. so here it is again:
The beasties are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
Not matter what the beasties do people will say
- they are to old for hip-hop
- rapping about dropping your kids off to school, and showing your grandma love is lame
- leave the politics out of the music
- they should not use pro tools and computers and go back to old school drum machines
- they should do more hardcore
- they are to old for hardcore
- they should pick up their instruments
- they should stick to hip-hop
- they should team up with Rick Rubin again
- they should team up with the dust brothers again
- they should do more stuff they did 15-20 years ago
these are all complaints I have read on these boards in the last couple of years
as you can see the beasties will never be able to please everyone. There is always going to be some people who are pissed at them and their decisions. This however is what I love about the beasties, they do what they want when they want. Fuck the rest.
I personally have been waiting for the beasties to put an all instrument album out. I have always known that the beasties can do hip-hop, but I always wanted to see what else they could do with their instruments.
A lot of people on these boards will say “by creating an all instrumental album you are neglecting the beasties true fans. The ones who made them who they are today. If they don’t have any hip-hop then the beasties will fade away”
I disagree. I think if the beasties did another album full of do doo rhymes and inside jokes then they might actually indeed fade away. People would complain that “it’s the same old thing”. Plus people have to realize things are not going to be the same as they were 15-20 years ago.
The ignorant ear cannot distinguish between “so what cha want” and “ch-check it out”.
An all instrumental album would surprise a lot of people.
Also remember that the beasties are in their 40’s now and are parents. Would you think it would be that cool if you seen your parents or some 40 year olds rapping about girls, drinking and fighting for their right to party? (go ahead picture your mom or dad doing it)
A lot of people want them to just stick to hip-hop. Well they gave us an all hip-hop album three years ago and the majority of people dumped all over it.
I think at this stage in the beasties career an album like this makes perfect sense.
Brother McDuff
04-11-2007, 03:06 PM
Ooh some sweet metal instrumentals would be awesome, but I don't think they are that good guitarists.
A lot of that shit is just glorified bass-playing. Like the hardcore songs are pretty much two-note chords. Pretty much, I say.
it's no secret that they aren't world-class players, but that's not what makes a band. it's what it all sounds like when it's all put together. if you pay attention to just one element of a track then you'll probly be unimpressed, but if you listen to the whole mix, as it's meant to be heard, as they've crafted it to sound, then you can appreciate it for what it is, in all it's glory.
cj hood
04-11-2007, 04:22 PM
i agree with roosta said as well......any hiphop is better than no hiphop.....i don't care how good this cd will be......without hiphop it'll get 1 or 2 spins and thats it.......if this was 1997 i'd be a little bit more open.......but by the time they put out a new record with hiphop (if they do) they'll be in their mid/late 40s......then what......
the only saving grace will be if they continue mc'ing on the tour supporting this record.......
but on the personal tip.....if they're happy then its cool....i just appreciate their music and their talent and i'd just like to see it shine on the new record.......no ill will intended!
Laver1969
04-11-2007, 04:41 PM
I suppose the real problem is the fear that we've heard the last of them as emcee's...or simply putting out new hip-hop. They've never been the most prolific band...
I don't share that fear at all. This is simply the direction they are heading in right now. It'll change again in a few years. Who'd thunk they'd put out TT5B or AIFST or this one...there WILL be other albums. And if any 50 year olds can pull it off, the Beasties can. I'll be first in line.
If they were quitting the rhyming business, they wouldn't be continuing to schedule hiphop shows.
kleptomaniac
04-11-2007, 05:03 PM
thanks midzi and miramanee for this sexy piece of news ;)
i can't wait for the new album and finally get to listen to the music i've seen them dancing to in the studio, because i want to dance with them! :D
oh oh oh june - my birthday is in june :)
i'm not really surprised by the instrumental news or by some people's negative reactions to it. some of you are putting bad vibes out there....well i couldn't be more excited, every album has a different sound, y'all should know that by now, and they always keep things interesting and fun.
beastie boys - you make everything good. love the suits, love the instruments. :cool:
let's dance together at a show sometime. (y)
...is it june yet? now? NOW?
Sir SkratchaLot
04-11-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm hyped about an instrumental album. I think its funny how the "hip hop headz" are all compliaining about it because every real hip hopper I know LOVES instrumental music, which is where all the breaks and beats are comming from in the first place. I.e. anybody who knows shit about hip hop is already into instrumental music of all genres.
You're assuming that.
True.
I'm not complaining about there being no hip-hop.
No, you're just complaining about something you haven't even heard yet. I'm just assuming this too, of course.
What are you going to do? Sample the stuff yourself? Well, I'll be a waiting a while to hear the results of that, I'm sure.
So you're saying you wanna battle? :eek:
My tastes are as diverse as can be, I'm just not into the idea of non-vocal stylings. It could be great, though.
Make up your mind, is the music you haven't heard yet good or bad? See, for me personally, I like this upcomming album a lot but I can't stand the next album after that. Now, that album is gonna suck.
kleptomaniac
04-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Anyway, it should be cool (unless Yauch tries to get all touchy feely and sing again).
awwww but i love yauch's touchy-feely side! next to his backside, that is!
:o
Funkyfreshgrape
04-11-2007, 07:23 PM
awwww but i love yauch's touchy-feely side! next to his backside, that is!
:o
LOL!:D
i love his feely side too!
dave790
04-11-2007, 07:28 PM
ok this topic has been/is/and will be driven round in circles and circles, but i want to get my point in.
I can't be anything but dissapointed that this is going to be an all instrumental album. Now, it could well be amazing, no reason why it wount be great. Itll porbably be very good.........But i'm still dissapointed.
I love the funky instrumentals they have done, but I love them where they are, inside a regular beasties album. I love the fact that some of their albums go on these crazy musical journeys, but I mainly love the fact that the heart of the them is still old school hip-hop. Take that away and I don't know what it will be like. I'm still excited, still can't wait....but I just fear its going to be like "cool, good album" but then not join its predecessors as CD's I will always spin.
I suppose i'm a bit of a hypocrite, I didn't like people who bitched bout TT5B being all hip-hop. But then again I suppose i'm not, because even though they weave all these styles, started as a punk-band have done all this crazy shit, they are a hip-hop crew at heart.
When I saw them on the studio cam with instruments again I was kind of excited; but i thought they'd be doing some kind of Check Your Head stuff, sampled drums, bass lines, etc. then all mashed up and distorted then with rhymes over....after the old-school throw back of TT5B it would have been a nice change. But now? Meh. Im not as excited about this as I would usially be. And when will we get a new album?
I don't wanna be shitting on a record that I havnt heard, and i am looking forward to it.. I suppose the real problem is the fear that we've heard the last of them as emcee's...or simply putting out new hip-hop. They've never been the most prolific band...
But yeah, wouldn't some songs like Live at PJs be great?
I think that's a well reasoned post and I completely see your view on everything you mentioned. And not that this is what you're saying, but I can appreciate the fear that the Beasties making a comeback on the mic - i.e with raps - at 45+ (once the next albums done with) may be a tad unlikely, so how that could be it in a sense.
And CJ...I think you should have posted what you just did at the start of this thread - only as it would have spared lots of arguments! I don't think when they announce a tour across the US etc they'll just do instrumental shows, I think they'll just be a scatter of both or just merge the two together - hopefully meaning more stage time.
My view is that it's a new Beasties record, and they haven't let me down yet, so I've got every confidence I'm going to love it. And as a huge fan, even if I didn't have that faith I'd still give it a decent chance. If I'm to be honest though - when I think of a new Beasties record the first thing that comes to mind is MCA's rasp - I want to hear it, so that's kinda a shame.
I see what you and Roosta are saying - there is or was an old school hip hop backbone to everything that goes on in say IC or CYH. I like to think I'm a fan of music in general - regarding CYH, I love every sound in it. But it'll be interesting to see how it turns out without rapping, though without that Beastie hip hop background vibe and general mix of things I can see wh there's doubt.
But fuck it, they're doing what they want and i can't wait to see them live - rapping and jamming - and to hear this new record. And this is all speculation I might add regarding the album (which I promised myslef I wouldn't ramble on about but there you go). We don't know til we hear it...
JasonP
04-11-2007, 07:44 PM
Civil War!!!!!!!!!
kleptomaniac
04-11-2007, 07:47 PM
this is just like waiting for christmas to come...the anticipation is there and the excitement of not really knowing what you're going to expect...then the day comes and sure, the joy of waiting has faded away some, but you got your present and it's wonderful! that's how i'm feeling :)
for others it might be more like groundhog day...is it going to come out and face its shadow or will it crawl back in its hole? you don't really know what to expect either, but you're hoping for one or the other or fear being disappointed if it's not what you thought would happen.
and for others it is like doomsday is coming and you expect the worse to happen, like the end of the world is near... :rolleyes:
yep.
Brother McDuff
04-11-2007, 07:53 PM
but on the personal tip.....if they're happy then its cool....i just appreciate their music and their talent and i'd just like to see it shine on the new record.......no ill will intended!
glad to hear this, hood (y). i was starting to sense some severe negativity on your end from your last few posts. i hope you're pleasantly surprised by the new record. :o
BeastieAlbum07
04-11-2007, 07:54 PM
glad to hear this, hood (y). i was starting to sense some severe negativity on your end from your last few posts. i hope you're pleasantly surprised by the new record. :o
I get a strange feeling that there will be a chart-topper on this album...
dave790
04-11-2007, 08:32 PM
i think the critics might closed mindedly (if that flies) hit hard though.
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 09:30 PM
ok this topic has been/is/and will be driven round in circles and circles, but i want to get my point in.
I can't be anything but dissapointed that this is going to be an all instrumental album. Now, it could well be amazing, no reason why it wount be great. Itll porbably be very good.........But i'm still dissapointed.
I love the funky instrumentals they have done, but I love them where they are, inside a regular beasties album. I love the fact that some of their albums go on these crazy musical journeys, but I mainly love the fact that the heart of the them is still old school hip-hop. Take that away and I don't know what it will be like. I'm still excited, still can't wait....but I just fear its going to be like "cool, good album" but then not join its predecessors as CD's I will always spin.
I suppose i'm a bit of a hypocrite, I didn't like people who bitched bout TT5B being all hip-hop. But then again I suppose i'm not, because even though they weave all these styles, started as a punk-band have done all this crazy shit, they are a hip-hop crew at heart.
When I saw them on the studio cam with instruments again I was kind of excited; but i thought they'd be doing some kind of Check Your Head stuff, sampled drums, bass lines, etc. then all mashed up and distorted then with rhymes over....after the old-school throw back of TT5B it would have been a nice change. But now? Meh. Im not as excited about this as I would usially be. And when will we get a new album?
I don't wanna be shitting on a record that I havnt heard, and i am looking forward to it.. I suppose the real problem is the fear that we've heard the last of them as emcee's...or simply putting out new hip-hop. They've never been the most prolific band...
But yeah, wouldn't some songs like Live at PJs be great?
(y) (y)
Late-Night Lion
04-11-2007, 09:38 PM
The lyrics for Sabotage were done like a week before they had to send it in...so who knows
All i know is that we're taking this a lil' bit too seriously at this point, there has been no official word in either direction (lyrics or entirely instrumental)
The speculation is part of the fun, these sorts of things only happen once every 3-6 years for your favorite musicians
Lo_Lyfe
04-11-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm hyped about an instrumental album.
Something you haven't heard yet.
Different strokes, man. (y)
It's crazy the speculation. We didn't have such crazy times with TT5B. Hello Nasty was different, though. The whole black and white aquatic sessions page was a clever diversion.
TAFKASB
04-12-2007, 03:09 AM
I'm not as hyped about this album as previous by the fact that it may be pure instrumental. I love their vocals on each and every album. I'm still thankfull though that they still drop albums after 25 years...I remember when LTI was released, I was 16 at the time so I guess over the years I've never had the worry about anything they have ever done. I totally understand teenagers and young 20 somethings being pissed if it is all intrumental because they have missed out on the early years when whatever they dropped it was golden. All I can really say is be thankfull for whatever they do because they could have stopped years ago, and if you really don't like what they have to bring, you have 6 other albums packed with qaulity you can listen to.
JasonP
04-12-2007, 05:16 AM
I'm not as hyped about this album as previous by the fact that it may be pure instrumental. I love their vocals on each and every album. I'm still thankfull though that they still drop albums after 25 years...I remember when LTI was released, I was 16 at the time so I guess over the years I've never had the worry about anything they have ever done. I totally understand teenagers and young 20 somethings being pissed if it is all intrumental because they have missed out on the early years when whatever they dropped it was golden. All I can really say is be thankfull for whatever they do because they could have stopped years ago, and if you really don't like what they have to bring, you have 6 other albums packed with qaulity you can listen to.
Wurd!
Junker
04-12-2007, 08:07 AM
I think this "it'll be an only instrumental album" thing is just a joke to set the boards on fire.
I think this "it'll be an only instrumental album" thing is just a joke to set the boards on fire.
fingers crossed
Rock On
04-12-2007, 11:11 AM
It would be nice if people showed a little more faith in the Beasties and know that no matter what they produce, and no matter what the album sounds like, it will have more artistic merit than 99% of the music that is being produced today.
It's gonna be Ill as fuck, they're the Beasties maaan!
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 11:12 AM
The bits and pieces trickling out make it sound like they're excited; I don't remember the stuff before Tt5B sounding this excited.
I'm looking forward to it, whatever it is.
Lex Diamonds
04-12-2007, 11:13 AM
If there's no hip-hop on this album, the Beastie Boys will never make a new rap album again. I'm pretty sure of that, as with their average album release cycle they would be approaching 50 when/if they drop another one.
It would be nice if people showed a little more faith in the Beasties and know that no matter what they produce, and no matter what the album sounds like, it will have more artistic merit than 99% of the music that is being produced today.
It's gonna be Ill as fuck, they're the Beasties maaan!
Thanks, Yauch...
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:19 AM
It would be nice if people showed a little more faith in the Beasties and know that no matter what they produce, and no matter what the album sounds like, it will have more artistic merit than 99% of the music that is being produced today.
It's gonna be Ill as fuck, they're the Beasties maaan!
We only fret because we love them. It's a retarded way of showing it, and more often results in us attacking each other. But yeah, you're right.
We only fret because we love them. It's a retarded way of showing it, and more often results in us attacking each other. But yeah, you're right.
How's the elevator treatin' ya?
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:22 AM
How's the elevator treatin' ya?
Someone urinated on me.
Junker
04-12-2007, 11:27 AM
And the shotgung? Full amo? :D
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:39 AM
And the shotgung? Full amo? :D
They pointed something at me. :(
Rock On
04-12-2007, 11:51 AM
I can't understand why people are automatically dissappointed just because the word "instruments" is being used?
Babe Ruth - The Mexican
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's just begun
Gene Harris - Put on Train
Ballin' Jack - Never gonna let 'em say
Chic - Good Times
Jimi Hendrix
Curtis Mayfeild
Alphonse Mouzon
Jimmy Smith
Afrika Bambaataa
Sly & the Family
All these people played instruments and all have music that is synonmous with Hip-Hop. Why is it acceptable if the Beasties sample someone else's stuff or actually created their own?
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:54 AM
I can't understand why people are automatically dissappointed just because the word "instruments" is being used?
Babe Ruth - The Mexican
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's just begun
Gene Harris - Put on Train
Ballin' Jack - Never gonna let 'em say
Chic - Good Times
Jimi Hendrix
Curtis Mayfeild
Alphonse Mouzon
Jimmy Smith
Afrika Bambaataa
Sly & the Family
All these people played instruments and all have music that is synonmous with Hip-Hop. Why is it acceptable if the Beasties sample someone else's stuff or actually created their own?
Are there going to be vocals? These artists use some vocals, and if this were the case, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's the entirely instrumental thing that seems unusual. Like a (fnar) sort of sabotage.
Rock On
04-12-2007, 11:56 AM
Was there some sort of confirmation that there were no lyrics that I haven't seen?
Maybe I should look around more.
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Was there some sort of confirmation that there were no lyrics that I haven't seen?
Maybe I should look around more.
No, there wasn't. There is a link to an email at the start of this thread that claims the album is instrumental. I think perhaps the heads here (myself included) figure this means no vocals, as that's the fan-lingo for Sabrosa and such.
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 11:59 AM
And sausage dogs.
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 12:01 PM
I figure it's imprecise language.
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 12:04 PM
I figure it's imprecise language.
Well, I'm never going to call it a 'weiner dog'. (n)
Rock On
04-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I just checked the link and I agree with you abcdefz.
"Instrumental" used in that context could have meant instruments instead of electronicly produced music. It doesn't rule out the possibility of vocals.
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 12:14 PM
I think she meant "1. Serving as a means or agency; implemental."
Rodie
04-12-2007, 12:20 PM
The bits and pieces trickling out make it sound like they're excited; I don't remember the stuff before Tt5B sounding this excited.
I'm looking forward to it, whatever it is.
I agree whole-heartedly, and I'd personally rather see an all instruments album that they're really into than a hip hop album they just pumped out to please people.
I also agree that "instrumental" refers to non-electronically produced music. But we'll wait and see.
Laver1969
04-12-2007, 12:28 PM
I can't understand why people are automatically dissappointed just because the word "instruments" is being used?
Babe Ruth - The Mexican
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's just begun
Gene Harris - Put on Train
Ballin' Jack - Never gonna let 'em say
Chic - Good Times
Jimi Hendrix
Curtis Mayfeild
Alphonse Mouzon
Jimmy Smith
Afrika Bambaataa
Sly & the Family
All these people played instruments and all have music that is synonmous with Hip-Hop. Why is it acceptable if the Beasties sample someone else's stuff or actually created their own?
Hey Yauch,
There's an idea. This album with all the instruments...then the next album is chopping and looping and tweeking it with rhymes and hiphop flavor.
Now that could be very creative.
Lo_Lyfe
04-12-2007, 12:29 PM
I agree whole-heartedly, and I'd personally rather see an all instruments album that they're really into than a hip hop album they just pumped out to please people.
I agree. Somewhere in these threads it has become apparent that people think most of us just want hip-hop. Speaking for myself, I just thought instrumental implied absolutely no vocals, and feared that the sounds might lack a bit in personality.
Justin
04-12-2007, 12:34 PM
I bet it will be "funky"!
Pootytang
04-12-2007, 12:45 PM
I bet it will be "funky"!
With some spy type shit mixed in.
martijn
04-12-2007, 02:03 PM
nevermind
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 02:05 PM
nevermind
Think that was real?
Brother McDuff
04-12-2007, 02:09 PM
talk about beating a dead horse:confused:
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Is it glue yet?
martijn
04-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Think that was real?
i found a image of a new tracklisting of a the new beastie cd, probably fake so nevermind :)
abcdefz
04-12-2007, 02:15 PM
Boy, I hope they wouldn't give Henry Rollins employment. :(
Brother McDuff
04-12-2007, 02:19 PM
i found a image of a new tracklisting of a the new beastie cd, probably fake so nevermind :)
hey, it's worth a laugh anyway, right? where'd ya get it?
jennyb
04-12-2007, 04:00 PM
This thread gave me a headache. Who gives a shit if people are speculating about a new release? It's like shaking a wrapped present before you get to open it. Additionally, my utmost respect of the Beastie Boys comes out of their punk rock attitude of approaching their craft... kind of like, 'We don't give a fuck what you guys think, we're going to express ourselves however we damn well please weather you like it or not.' I don't know, this whole discussion is retarded. Honestly I hope it loses fans. The smaller the fan base the better in my opinion. I want the Beastie Boys all for myself. So you all just get off this bus and myself and a few other fans will go enjoy them in a lounge in Vegas.
Laver1969
04-12-2007, 04:07 PM
So you all just get off this bus and myself and a few other fans will go enjoy them in a lounge in Vegas.
What is the date of that Vegas lounge show again? And I like your bus...very roomy.
jennyb
04-12-2007, 04:10 PM
Every day I get in the queue (Too much, Magic Bus)
To get on the bus that takes me to you (Too much, Magic Bus)
I'm so nervous, I just sit and smile (Too much, Magic Bus)
Your house is only another mile (Too much, Magic Bus)
Brother McDuff
04-12-2007, 04:53 PM
i heard Alfredo's the bus driver, but that's just speculation...
Rock On
04-12-2007, 09:10 PM
Honestly I hope it loses fans. The smaller the fan base the better in my opinion. I want the Beastie Boys all for myself. So you all just get off this bus and myself and a few other fans will go enjoy them in a lounge in Vegas.
This happened after Paul's Boutique, it was called "Check Your Head" tour. They picked up the instruments then too and look how that turned out.
Were you around for it?
jennyb
04-12-2007, 11:46 PM
sadly I did not catch the check your head tour. I was graduating from high school in the middle of nowhere. sigh... dammit, when is somebody gonna invent a time machine already!
Lo_Lyfe
04-13-2007, 12:14 AM
I was 11 years old, in New Zealand. J/S.
ggirlballa
04-14-2007, 12:27 AM
i was in my mom's womb, *sigh* i think i'm in the wrong decade
anywayz my opinions is if its all insrumental with no lyrics i will still listen to it of course, it'll probally take me longer to like it than the other hip hop songs buts its the beastie boys i'll check out anything by them cuz they get mad props from me & cuz i'm a fan of them.
i'm still hoping theres some lyrics on top of the instrumental though, if there isn't i'm still cool with that.
i just noticed when their new album comes out i'm going to be in summer school as a freshman in high school, damn thats gonna be dope.(y)
M.C. Guevera
04-14-2007, 07:28 AM
Re: Instrumental Album: If they can do jams as sweet as "Futterman's Rule" or "Pow", I'll be happy.
My brother Nelson keeps playing this interesting samba music from his hi-fi. I wonder what it is?
gorilla
04-14-2007, 11:55 AM
a trip in time to when there were no samplers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCZv7786KY&mode=related&search=).
Meatloaf
04-14-2007, 03:45 PM
a trip in time to when there were no samplers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCZv7786KY&mode=related&search=).
Great Link!
Thanks for that.(y)
thebumonmystoop
04-14-2007, 07:32 PM
Not to be rude..but I can not believe anyone is complaining..a new Beastie Boys CD coming soon...what could be better..they have never let us down.. I don't think they are gonna start now just saying
Michelle*s_Farm
04-15-2007, 06:48 AM
Not to be rude..but I can not believe anyone is complaining..a new Beastie Boys CD coming soon...what could be better..they have never let us down.. I don't think they are gonna start now just saying
Here are my guesses as to why people complain:
(a) Some fans are overly demanding of others, including their favorite artists -- "Mom I do not want liver for dinner!"; (b) insecure about their preference for the band (i.e., they want everyone or the important critics to like the band as much as they do: "How can all my friends be so stupid not to like ________?!"); or (c) they could be musicians themselves and question directional decisions made by the band (especially if this type of fan identifies with one type of music but not another -- for example alternative but not hip hop or vice-versa: "Why can't they just do funky instrumentals with a bit of punk rock / rap sampling vibe since that is the future of music this decade!").
There are probably other reasons as well (e.g., demonic possession -- "Arggh, I must rotate my head 360 degrees in front of the priest so listen to me when I state that the Beastie Boys should play this way but not that way.").
I just want to hear the album and then make my own decision about its quality while I try to ignore the critics (e.g., www.pitchforkmedia.com), what the Beasties have done in the past (their previous LP's especially P.B. and Check Your Head, LTI is easy to ignore when I listen to all post-P.B. albums), and how much I like the band (surely a big source of bias in any critical evaluation of the material).
Any suggestions on how to remove these biases when I am listening to the new LP for the first time? Drop acid is one idea but please do not suggest that since I really hate that shit. Plus I doubt it would work in bias removal.
Michelle*s_Farm
04-15-2007, 06:55 AM
By the way has everyone seen the new promotional pic from Nasty Little Man?
Looks great:
http://www.nastylittleman.com/Clients/beastieboys/beastieboys.html
Lo_Lyfe
04-15-2007, 08:16 AM
I'd been checking Nasty for the last bit to see if they were active again, and I got scooped. Nice find. Between that and the Beastie-Hund, it's been a big week.
hannes7
04-15-2007, 08:54 AM
one of the best photo's of the beastie boys.
i like it.
"its the new style" .. :-)
Rodie
04-15-2007, 10:38 AM
I'm probably taking this too seriously but has anyone else noticed that the picture file is called "bb-promo1-cmyk_midLG.jpg" I wonder if cmyk is the album title abbreviated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmyk
Lo_Lyfe
04-15-2007, 11:34 AM
Summer Madness-Kool and the Gang
Charlie's Theme-Jimi Entley Sound
dave790
04-15-2007, 12:42 PM
I like that photo too.
It was one of the recent updates on the mic to mic site, in black and white.
dirtydan11
04-15-2007, 01:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmyk
good sleuthing!
dirtydan11
04-15-2007, 01:26 PM
By the way has everyone seen the new promotional pic from Nasty Little Man?
Looks great:
http://www.nastylittleman.com/Clients/beastieboys/beastieboys.html
what is horivitz holding?
that is one of the best beastie pics i've ever seen!
Lex Diamonds
04-15-2007, 01:56 PM
He's holding a briefcase you butt sniffer.
Oh I thought it was a hair dryer.
ClarenceAlabama
04-15-2007, 02:36 PM
According to the riaa, here are the sales from the Beastie Boys albums:
LTI - 9 x platinum
PB - 2 x platinum
CYH - 2 x platinum
IC - 3 x platinum
HN - 3 x platinum
TTFB - 1 x platinum
Compilations:
ISFWO (instrumentals) - didn't go gold
SOS (Anthology) - 2 x platinum
SGH (Hits) - didn't go gold
It seems the Beasties are taking a big risk releasing an instrumental album considering their latest cd release didn't go gold and their last instrumental release didn't go gold.
Brother McDuff
04-15-2007, 03:36 PM
horovitz kinda looks like yauch in that pic
funk63
04-15-2007, 03:45 PM
and mike d kinda looked like an elephant
Rodie
04-15-2007, 04:26 PM
SOS (Anthology) - 2 x platinum
SGH (Hits) - didn't go gold
It seems the Beasties are taking a big risk releasing an instrumental album considering their latest cd release didn't go gold and their last instrumental release didn't go gold.
I think that's why though. I'd say most people who would've bought SGH probably already bought the anthology. And besides, it's not like they're gonna be living on the streets if their next CD doesn't sell well.
acamus
04-15-2007, 05:48 PM
New prediction: I see an album of love songs with Amy Winehouse on vocals.
Knuckles
04-15-2007, 06:55 PM
New prediction: I see an album of love songs with Amy Winehouse on vocals.
Good guess but here's the real deal (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1450669&postcount=3123).
Documad
04-15-2007, 07:22 PM
Good guess but here's the real deal (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1450669&postcount=3123).
Ha Ha. I needed that! <3
TAFKASB
04-17-2007, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=Lo_Lyfe]I agree. Somewhere in these threads it has become apparent that people think most of us just want hip-hop. Speaking for myself, I just thought instrumental implied absolutely no vocals, and feared that the sounds might lack a bit in personality.
Along the same lines as I'm thinking. Whenever you slam on a Beastie Boys cd, it's an instant know it feeling. You just know you're gonna warm to it. No vocals could mean lost in translation.
Lo_Lyfe
04-17-2007, 08:07 AM
I agree. Somewhere in these threads it has become apparent that people think most of us just want hip-hop. Speaking for myself, I just thought instrumental implied absolutely no vocals, and feared that the sounds might lack a bit in personality.
Along the same lines as I'm thinking. Whenever you slam on a Beastie Boys cd, it's an instant know it feeling. You just know you're gonna warm to it. No vocals could mean lost in translation.
Yeah man, I'm just hoping they do themselves proud, whatever. I'm over it at the moment.
ClarenceAlabama
04-17-2007, 11:53 AM
I think that's why though. I'd say most people who would've bought SGH probably already bought the anthology. And besides, it's not like they're gonna be living on the streets if their next CD doesn't sell well.
Releasing Solid Gold Hits without at least one new song was a mistake. That's why it didn't sell.
balohna
04-17-2007, 11:54 AM
I bought SGH for the DVD/completion's sake.
Michelle*s_Farm
04-17-2007, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE=Lo_Lyfe]I agree. Somewhere in these threads it has become apparent that people think most of us just want hip-hop. Speaking for myself, I just thought instrumental implied absolutely no vocals, and feared that the sounds might lack a bit in personality.
Along the same lines as I'm thinking. Whenever you slam on a Beastie Boys cd, it's an instant know it feeling. You just know you're gonna warm to it. No vocals could mean lost in translation.
I agree. But I do not think the band has officially stated that the new LP will be instrumental-only (i.e., no vocal effects, samples of themselves, others or themselves singing / rapping in the studio etc.). Indeed when it comes to Beastie Boys, playing "instruments" is a good thing -- I think instrumental-only is an unsubstantiated rumour (albeit an interesting one, but I doubt this means there will not be any auditory speech on the album).
Michelle*s_Farm
04-17-2007, 01:37 PM
I bought SGH for the DVD/completion's sake.
I also liked SGH for the video features and also the humour value (i.e., the pic of them on the cover and the "Solid Gold Hits" title which is up there with the Country Mike album -- BTW an excellent LP to include in your collection especially for the cover pic).
dirtydan11
04-17-2007, 04:24 PM
He's holding a briefcase you butt sniffer.
Thank you very much Padster, you really know how to charm a girl :)
kleptomaniac
04-17-2007, 07:36 PM
horovitz kinda looks like yauch in that pic
hmm...i don't see that. he looks like horovitz to me. yauch has such a cute lil nose! :p
Brother McDuff
04-19-2007, 12:58 PM
thinking back, obviously most of the tracking for the new album took place pre-studio cam, but did we ever get to see footage of Yauch recording? i know i saw mike and rock a coupla times, and actually Yauch noodling on the bass in the control room, but did anyone see him recording at all?
Pootytang
04-19-2007, 02:31 PM
If this isn't a full instrumental album, I wonder why they are doing Instrumental only sets at future gigs.
Late-Night Lion
04-19-2007, 05:13 PM
thinking back, obviously most of the tracking for the new album took place pre-studio cam, but did we ever get to see footage of Yauch recording? i know i saw mike and rock a coupla times, and actually Yauch noodling on the bass in the control room, but did anyone see him recording at all?
Good question, I'm pretty sure there was one time where they all played together in a room...it's probably on youtube
Lo_Lyfe
04-19-2007, 05:24 PM
If this isn't a full instrumental album, I wonder why they are doing Instrumental only sets at future gigs.
The better question is, if most people know it's the most 'down' part of normal gigs, why are they excited about it?
Pootytang
04-19-2007, 05:46 PM
The better question is, if most people know it's the most 'down' part of normal gigs, why are they excited about it?
Probably because not all of us have the exact same taste in music. Maybe some of us do like funky jazz instrumentals or something low key that is relaxing and mellow.
JasonP
04-19-2007, 05:49 PM
Probably because not all of us have the exact same taste in music. Maybe some of us do like funky jazz instrumentals or something low key that is relaxing and mellow.
Also, I don't think that type of music is condusive to arena venues. I haven't seen them perform it in smaller venues, but I am sure its much better :)
Lo_Lyfe
04-19-2007, 05:51 PM
Probably because not all of us have the exact same taste in music. Maybe some of us do like funky jazz instrumentals or something low key that is relaxing and mellow.
Yes, I do. As well as many other things. Ah, diversity.
Another good question is why would they do 'normal' shows in conjunction with these instrumental sets if there were either no hip-hop on the record, or no feeling within the group that instrumentals alone (read: not songs with instruments, rather songs with no vocals) might let some people down?
Lo_Lyfe
04-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Also, I don't think that type of music is condusive to arena venues. I haven't seen them perform it in smaller venues, but I am sure its much better :)
Agreed. In smaller venues it would work really well. And it increases the likelihood of them doing dates that aren't festivals Down Under. I doubt I could be bothered going to another Beatsie show at an Australian festival, at least not in Perth. I'd be tempted to fly to the East coast if I had to.
Lo_Lyfe
04-19-2007, 06:22 PM
Good question, I'm pretty sure there was one time where they all played together in a room...it's probably on youtube
There's a clip on youtube of the Mike D and Adrock playing in the foreground, and the bass guitar being played sort of to the side of screen.
cj hood
04-19-2007, 06:56 PM
The better question is, if most people know it's the most 'down' part of normal gigs, why are they excited about it?
just worth repeating...
Lo_Lyfe
04-19-2007, 07:32 PM
I wonder , if in fact it is an all instrumental album, how big a trump card it was for the band? Were they relying on it being a surprise? If so, surely this email is as bad as a leak, and while benefitting a small group of internet using fans, is a direct attack on the band and their plans.
Brother McDuff
04-20-2007, 03:43 AM
i highly doubt, at this stage in their career, that the beasties are actually worried about their "career" at all. they're made men at this point when it comes to security, let alone respect. too many people are assuming an instrumental album is career suicide when, quote "their career", is most likely a non-issue for them at this juncture in the the first place.
why can't people respect the fact that they're just doing what they feel?
luckydan#4130
04-20-2007, 05:49 AM
when it drops and there are tracks like sabotage and mullet head and in 3's _OR they suckered all yall and it is a hip hop extravaganza ... you can go and take yer bitch and moan fest elsewhere ...word, cause they have not let us down yet!
Laver1969
04-20-2007, 06:02 AM
I wonder , if in fact it is an all instrumental album, how big a trump card it was for the band? Were they relying on it being a surprise? If so, surely this email is as bad as a leak, and while benefitting a small group of internet using fans, is a direct attack on the band and their plans.
But let's not forget about this piece of information (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1403412&postcount=1) that came directly from Mike.
is there going to be a single? would of thought it'll be out by now
luckydan#4130
04-20-2007, 06:39 AM
that would be pretty cool to hear an instrumental track on clear channel stations from time to time:)
Lo_Lyfe
04-20-2007, 11:40 AM
why can't people respect the fact that they're just doing what they feel?
People do. Ultimately. Why can't people just respect the fact that being a Beastie Boys fan prior to 2004 involved talking shit and thinking about the music, and not being told what to like?
Many of the TT5B intake are on-point. Not all of them, though. Fuck, these guys fought off some of the worst crowds in modern music history, dealt with the harshest press, and still conquered the world. Sure, sometimes it goes a bit far, but get out of their asses. The drones who spend their time bitching about the negativity here are missing out on the gift of independent thought. I've been a fan long enough to know what I can and can't say.
cj hood
04-20-2007, 12:26 PM
People do. Ultimately. Why can't people just respect the fact that being a Beastie Boys fan prior to 2004 involved talking shit and thinking about the music, and not being told what to like?
Many of the TT5B intake are on-point. Not all of them, though. Fuck, these guys fought off some of the worst crowds in modern music history, dealt with the harshest press, and still conquered the world. Sure, sometimes it goes a bit far, but get out of their asses. The drones who spend their time bitching about the negativity here are missing out on the gift of independent thought. I've been a fan long enough to know what I can and can't say.
all my comments are nothing personal......i have the utmost respect for adam mike and adam as people.....if i met them, i'd shake their hands and thank them for everything they've done for me personally.....i'm just talkin about the current state of affairs.......
Brother McDuff
04-20-2007, 12:53 PM
People do. Ultimately. Why can't people just respect the fact that being a Beastie Boys fan prior to 2004 involved talking shit and thinking about the music, and not being told what to like?
Many of the TT5B intake are on-point. Not all of them, though. Fuck, these guys fought off some of the worst crowds in modern music history, dealt with the harshest press, and still conquered the world. Sure, sometimes it goes a bit far, but get out of their asses. The drones who spend their time bitching about the negativity here are missing out on the gift of independent thought. I've been a fan long enough to know what I can and can't say.
i don't quite understand this post.
Lo_Lyfe
04-20-2007, 07:41 PM
i don't quite understand this post.
I'm saying; people are acting like we're hurting the bands feelings if we express oureselves, and don't automatically fawn over their every idea.
It wasn't an attack on you, McDuff. It's just many people came on board during TT5B and some of them seem to think the band are uber-sensitive old men.
Brother McDuff
04-21-2007, 02:32 AM
I'm saying; people are acting like we're hurting the bands feelings if we express oureselves, and don't automatically fawn over their every idea.
It wasn't an attack on you, McDuff. It's just many people came on board during TT5B and some of them seem to think the band are uber-sensitive old men.
None taken, Lo; nor was my post an attack on you.
To the pessimists:
i'd rather ponder the 'dopeness to come' for the next two months than fester on the "what could have been".
AKA
just because mom didn't pack you a Twinkie in your lunch doesn't mean that the Ho-Ho wasn't fuckin' tasty.
Laver1969
04-21-2007, 05:29 AM
just because mom didn't pack you a Twinkie in your lunch doesn't mean that the Ho-Ho wasn't fuckin' tasty.
How dare you? Ho-Ho's sound like they should only be eaten at Christmas. Is this Christmas? Now shut up and give me the damn Twinkie. :D
luckydan#4130
04-21-2007, 08:19 AM
raspberry "zinger" for both of you and go wash your hands you've been slingin' mud all day:p
pshabi
04-21-2007, 11:08 AM
How dare you? Ho-Ho's sound like they should only be eaten at Christmas. Is this Christmas? Now shut up and give me the damn Twinkie. :D
nappy-headed ho hos
Knuckles
04-21-2007, 12:08 PM
OH SHIT SON!!! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1455400#post1455400)
jennyb
04-21-2007, 01:13 PM
"Liberal Advisory, Conservative Lyrics" Bahahahah!!!
Thundercracker
04-21-2007, 05:49 PM
shit people, how can you now criticize an album that won't be out for several months?
stop being so negative!
instrumental, non-instrumental, what's the difference?
the boys know how to make it right so there's nothing to worry about.
i'm sure this new album will proudly carry the title as an ILL album. (y)
Brother McDuff
04-22-2007, 04:12 AM
i sense that's there's only a handful of negative speculators, though so many optimistic (not to mention logical) fans speak up against it that it just seems like there's an army of naysayers. some of us get pretty worked up when bogus and illogical rejection pops up on the board.
i feel that there's only a few sorry souls that are burying this album before they even know what it's about.
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 05:56 AM
I certainly hope nobody thinks I'm being negative. I'm just being objective. I don't like the sound of an instruments only album; I only want them to do as good as they can. If that's what they think is right to release, then cool.
I've said countless times it could very well impress everyone, but it would take a whole heap . I'm sure that if it were to do so, it would be much more than a simple album, and probably some ludicrous and extravagant project that only the Beastie Boys could think up. But just playing instrumentals doesn't sound like it's going to blow my personal collection of socks off. If it's what they want to do, again no problem.
I think the problem here maybe that to me many are coming off as blindly loyal, having made up their minds already, where to those same people my objectivity is appearing negative. Only as it is in such stark contrast to the shock-posting going on from some of these folk.
Some of them would assume that I don't like the band because of my attitude. No, I don't really like the mindset of many of the fans. Because although they appear to be 'open-minded' and enthusiastic, they've still done nothing but criticize anything that constitutes a discussion. I suppose it would seem I'm doing the same.
I've spent some energy trying to make an intelligent contribution on this forum, because I often thought that the 'OMG Be5tIe BoY5 r0X!!1' reputation was hugely undeserved. As time has progressed on the issue, I'm not so sure.
Let the album be all instrumental, I know you guys will enjoy it. (y)
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 06:00 AM
i sense that's there's only a handful of negative speculators, though so many optimistic (not to mention logical) fans speak up against it that it just seems like there's an army of naysayers. some of us get pretty worked up when bogus and illogical rejection pops up on the board.
There are only a handful of negative speculators (but if memory serves correctly some of these people were also negative before TT5B came out). Nonetheless I have not read one optimistic logical poster making a good case for any negative aspects of the album they have not heard. Are you saying you read some?
I really think this boils down to differences between Beastie Boys' fan base. Some fans are what I call "inclusive fans" while others are "particulate fans". Inclusive fans are the one's who like the Beasties to combine several different musical styles in novel ways; while particulate fans are those who prefer when the band focus more on one style more than another.
The inclusive to particulate dimension may also map (partially) onto the preference for politics in the band's music. Before TT5B's came out there was much debate on this board regarding whether or not politics would be present in the lyrics and the possible negative outcomes if political messages were present.
If I recall correctly a couple of the people who are postulating a new album without hip hop is a bad thing are the same people who dislike politics in Beastie Boys' songs. Could be a coincidence. Hard to say.
Unless the fans who dislike diverse combinations of musical styles are more conservative and do not like George W. Bush being criticized.
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 06:07 AM
I think generalizing about fan types doesn't solve a heap, but I agree to an extent. Then again, I don't really match any of Michelle's criteria. I like my politics, I love all kinds of music, and I'm a fan of these three punk-rock whiteboys. I'm allowed to think what I want, and I'm not haughty enough to expect myself to always be right. oh... and:
zoomer said...
for m-thanks for the info! the message board sucks..only people that hate the band & hate you post now. too much hate :( thanks to mic-to-mic for giving fans someplace else to talk about the Beasties!
This is one fan type I would like to talk about though; children who don't know what they're talking about, following a trail of breadcrumbs.
Power to us all. (y)
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 06:30 AM
I think generalizing about fan types doesn't solve a heap, but I agree to an extent. Then again, I don't really match any of Michelle's criteria. I like my politics, I love all kinds of music, and I'm a fan of these three punk-rock whiteboys. I'm allowed to think what I want, and I'm not haughty enough to expect myself to always be right. (y)
Perhaps it is not fair to type people, even though it can be fun.
I have not read all of your posts. But I just interpreted some of your statements as reflecting a slight worry that a solely instrumental album could flop somehow.
From my perspective Paul's Boutique flopped in terms of sales but was critically acclaimed (a good thing). So I am optimistic that the direction (whatever that may be) in sound will payoff artistically for the band. The reason I am convinced this is the case is because unlike other bands, the Beasties are like music fans themselves and keenly aware of many different types of music that existed in the past and cutting-edge today.
There are some who did not enjoy TT5B but I think it is a great headphone album that still sounds original even though it came in 2004. The band earned my trust long ago.
At the same time I sympathize why some may worry (even slightly) how a new LP will be received by others (i.e., your friends who you respect, music critics you respect, other bands you respect etc).
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 06:41 AM
Perhaps it is not fair to type people, even though it can be fun.
I have not read all of your posts. But I just interpreted some of your statements as reflecting a slight worry that a solely instrumental album could flop somehow.
From my perspective Paul's Boutique flopped in terms of sales but was critically acclaimed (a good thing). So I am optimistic that the direction (whatever that may be) in sound will payoff artistically for the band. The reason I am convinced this is the case is because unlike other bands, the Beasties are like music fans themselves and keenly aware of many different types of music that existed in the past and cutting-edge today.
There are some who did not enjoy TT5B but I think it is a great headphone album that still sounds original even though it came in 2004. The band earned my trust long ago.
At the same time I sympathize why some may worry (even slightly) how a new LP will be received by others (i.e., your friends who you respect, music critics you respect, other bands you respect etc).
I'm not worried about it flopping. I'm worried I won't like it. Not to put a fine point on this, but M to C to the A read a big thread about TT5B, and he knows I liked it. And I still do, and have defended it to all and sundry.
I don't care about anyone elses feelings on the album but my own, when it's released.
Co-sign you on the music-fan tip; this is the thing about them that always offers me hope.
Lyman Zerga
04-22-2007, 06:45 AM
im not worried but i sure dont want to waste my mother's money
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 07:16 AM
im not worried but i sure dont want to waste my mother's money
I am not against you being good to your Mom. But ask yourself would she ever reciprocate your kindness or would she be more likely to waste your money on Zamfir's latest pan flute LP?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamfir
Lyman Zerga
04-22-2007, 07:22 AM
you compare him with the beasties? BANNED
well i dont really care since i have no money and will never get any
cj hood
04-22-2007, 07:38 AM
6 months ago.....before all the instrumental record hype started........how many threads/posts were there dedicated to their already recorded instrumental trax........less than 5.....if that........
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 07:55 AM
6 months ago.....before all the instrumental record hype started........how many threads/posts were there dedicated to their already recorded instrumental trax........less than 5.....if that........
There must have been a few threads on Hardcore and In Sounds. Also I bet many fans do like when they sample themselves playing instruments and place these throughout their hip hop recordings (unsure whether there have been any threads on that though).
On a more positive note (sort of) one of the new Yauch produced Bad Brains tracks (called "Universal Peace") has leaked on the internet -- it is extremely good.
I will not provide a link but for those of you who remember or want to see the Bad Brains from a few years back click below. By the way the new track is tight just the way the Bad Brains should sound. Very excited to listen to the new Bad Brains album in its entirety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SU-7OxVcOo
BeastieAlbum07
04-22-2007, 09:10 AM
There must have been a few threads on Hardcore and In Sounds. Also I bet many fans do like when they sample themselves playing instruments and place these throughout their hip hop recordings (unsure whether there have been any threads on that though).
On a more positive note (sort of) one of the new Yauch produced Bad Brains tracks (called "Universal Peace") has leaked on the internet -- it is extremely good.
I will not provide a link but for those of you who remember or want to see the Bad Brains from a few years back click below. By the way the new track is tight just the way the Bad Brains should sound. Very excited to listen to the new Bad Brains album in its entirety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SU-7OxVcOo
I can't find the track anywhere.
Brother McDuff
04-22-2007, 10:29 AM
I certainly hope nobody thinks I'm being negative. I'm just being objective.
word up. i wouldn't worry about it, lyfe. you're opinions don't come off condescending or illogical at all. your speculation and concerns for the new record raise valid points. (y)
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 10:41 AM
When blanket statements are made about naysayers, I always wonder if I'm being included in that group or not. I wish people would just name names.
dave790
04-22-2007, 11:22 AM
If that's what they think is right to release, then cool.
If it's what they want to do, again no problem.
I doubt there is an if.
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 11:43 AM
I doubt there is an if.
Am I getting heat there? Or am I just not understanding your point, dave? I know they still do what they please.
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 11:46 AM
I can't find the track anywhere.
Use google and place the name of the track you wish to find in quotation marks. It was posted on a blog and I thought Rollins played it on his TV show.
I agree it is hard to find and may require that you are a member of particular file sharing groups.
Brother McDuff
04-22-2007, 11:46 AM
I know they still do what they please.
"my name is MCA and I still do what I please..."
Michelle*s_Farm
04-22-2007, 11:49 AM
When blanket statements are made about naysayers, I always wonder if I'm being included in that group or not. I wish people would just name names.
You know what they say Lo_Lyfe 'all because you are paranoid does not mean they are not after you.'
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 11:52 AM
They also say 'Excuse me. Is that your dog?'
dave790
04-22-2007, 12:07 PM
Am I getting heat there? Or am I just not understanding your point, dave? I know they still do what they please.
No not at all, I just think of it as a definite certainty that they're doing that they want. Thought you may have had your doubts...was actually quite interested in what other motives you may have had in mind though ha. Like maybe it's music they're not into at all or enjoy playing but there's unfound riches in some dodgy instrumental style that they're after!
Lo_Lyfe
04-22-2007, 12:16 PM
No not at all, I just think of it as a definite certainty that they're doing that they want. Thought you may have had your doubts...was actually quite interested in what other motives you may have had in mind though ha. Like maybe it's music they're not into at all or enjoy playing but there's unfound riches in some dodgy instrumental style that they're after!
I figure antagonizing people might also be a subliminal motivation of theirs.
Hopefully the re-designed website will give us a taste of the new stuff.
jennyb
04-22-2007, 12:26 PM
...On a more positive note (sort of) one of the new Yauch produced Bad Brains tracks (called "Universal Peace") has leaked on the internet -- it is extremely good....
SO GOOD IT HURTS! And I'm not just blindly saying this cuz Yauch produced it. It's really fucking amazing. The goodness stems from the production. It's got this lo fi quality bout it and the music just starts kicking your ass from the onset and doesn't let up till the track is over.
...The band earned my trust long ago...
Exactly. I can be critical or suspect of other artists. But for years now the Beastie Boys have been taking me down a path that I really really enjoy. I can't help but be positive when it comes to them. I don't think it's fair to chastize someone for feeling that way. If I were feeling this way about George Bush and his policies on Iraq... then I'd expect to get some tomatoes thrown at me. But it's just music. Lives aren't at stake here. Live and let live. One love. *blows kiss at bbmb*
You are always going to see OmGZ B3AsTee bOYs 4eVA posts that will make you wanna stab yourself in the temple with a blunt pencil. I've been known in the past to make a girly squirrely "omg Adrock is so hot" post. Can't you just glaze over them and get to the meat and potatoes? If you can't then I suggest never reading threads around here ever again.
pshabi
04-22-2007, 12:46 PM
I've been known in the past to make a girly squirrely "omg Adrock is so hot" post.
Who hasn't?:o
dave790
04-22-2007, 02:35 PM
I figure antagonizing people might also be a subliminal motivation of theirs.
Hopefully the re-designed website will give us a taste of the new stuff.
Ha fair enough, but I don't know. I mean i don't really give a toss about knowing stuff before it's out. Sure I'm excited, but it's probably mostly due to the fact that I don't know what's coming. No one's gonna really know until it comes out anyway, and that's not going to change whether it's announced or not - I mean the album will be out when the album's out. I'd rather listen to the album not knowing what to expect and then make my mind up in due course as opposed to going into it with a bunch of preconceptions anyway.
Lets' say they officially announced whether the album is going to have vocals on it or not. What's the point? The majority of the fans will want to hear it regardless. not knowing when you have to wait for something is a fact of life.
Oh by the way none of the above rambling was aimed specifically at you, I don't know if album details was what you were referring to I was using that aspect as an example. I must admit when they re-designed the website last time with the Ch-Check It Out preview it somewhat wetted my appetite further as it were, in a fuck me i'm excited sense.
Laver1969
04-22-2007, 09:04 PM
I guess I fall into the "blindly loyal" category.
As I've stated in another thread, I have my favorites and dislikes. And I prefer their hiphop over their punk and instrumtal stuff. But that being said, I drank the kool-aid along time ago. They haven't let me down yet.
I wouldn't come to this damned website everyday if I didn't love the Beasties.
And if I don't particularly like the new material, I'd be willing to bet they pull it off with some flair and humor that will still make it entertaining. (y)
fonky pizza
04-23-2007, 07:16 AM
The Instrumental record is not a big deal to me, I mean they already recorded a lot of instrumental tracks, jazz funk or hardcore...That's the Beastie Boys to me. I have no preference on the style they play, it just got to be good music.(y)
Michelle*s_Farm
04-23-2007, 07:51 PM
They also say 'Excuse me. Is that your dog?'
On an unrelated note. I really doubt that the Beastie Boys ever wanted to deliberately piss off their fans -- the mere suggestion is naive as hell.
Although I never doubted the fact that losing a few frat boy Margaritaville types was going to make them lose sleep. A good thing from my perspective as these fans could not tell the difference between evolutionary theory and intelligent design even after reading Origin of Species or Descent of Man.
Does anyone really take Michael Diamond's statement seriously when he said that he expected fans to be angry at the new LP?
Lo_Lyfe
04-23-2007, 07:59 PM
I guess I fall into the "blindly loyal" category.
As I've stated in another thread, I have my favorites and dislikes. And I prefer their hiphop over their punk and instrumtal stuff. But that being said, I drank the kool-aid along time ago. They haven't let me down yet.
I wouldn't come to this damned website everyday if I didn't love the Beasties.
And if I don't particularly like the new material, I'd be willing to bet they pull it off with some flair and humor that will still make it entertaining. (y)
Woah Laver. I'm not going at you. At all. It's just a general sort of mindset that calls people who are trying to balance their feelings 'Pessimists' and such.
Laver1969
04-23-2007, 09:44 PM
Woah Laver. I'm not going at you. At all. It's just a general sort of mindset that calls people who are trying to balance their feelings 'Pessimists' and such.
It's all good. I've just been labeled as being "pro-everything"...so I wanted to clarify a bit.
I'm actually not going pro...I'm keeping my amateur status --hoping to make the Beastie Olympic team.
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