View Full Version : Rutgers team will meet with Imus
abcdefz
04-10-2007, 12:00 PM
This is fucking ridiculous. The guy is a dumbass; why dignify the hack by not only meeting with him but by "being hurt" by his stupidity?
To me, even bothering to take offense at this nonsense just empowers the wrong person. It'd be like me getting offended if Turd tried to defame me in some way. It's just stupid.
From CNN: (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/10/imus.rutgers/index.html)
Rutgers captain says team will meet with Imus
The captain of the Rutgers women's basketball team said today that she and her teammates will meet with radio host Don Imus in the near future. "We'd just like to express our great hurt, the sadness that he has brought to us," Essence Carson said.
Imus went on Al Sharpton's radio show yesterday to apologize. What a farce.
A racist decrepit corpse and a anti-semetic idiot discussing racial issues.
Sheesh.
abcdefz
04-10-2007, 12:08 PM
I love that shit.
It's not like it's proof that someone has changed their mind; it's just a pretty meaningless PC hoop to jump through.
Hey, people have the right to be fucking idiots. Sometimes people need to be free to sink on their own.
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 12:24 PM
Yeah, I think he's pretty damn insensitive and probably racist, seeing as how he's done this before so it most likely wasn't just a "slip of the tongue" or whatever else. I think they should just cancel his program, and not just suspend it.
Plus, his apologies don't seem genuine at all. Just seems like it was the thing to do in order to keep his job, so he complied. :rolleyes:
Dorothy Wood
04-10-2007, 12:32 PM
what did he even say?
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 12:33 PM
That the Rutgers ladies who worked their asses off to get to the championship were "nappy-headed hos."
Dorothy Wood
04-10-2007, 12:34 PM
oh. why? what's he got against rutgers?
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 12:36 PM
You know, I'm not even sure the context. I was watching CNN last night and all they could focus on was what exactly he said and how much it hurt people and how he's apologizing, but never once did they say WHY he said it, or what was said before it to elicit such a response, or what else he said to justify what he thought, nothing. All I know is the phrase "nappy-headed hos."
Dorothy Wood
04-10-2007, 12:37 PM
bleh, that guy's crotchety and unfunny anyway, he should've been canned years ago.
abcdefz
04-10-2007, 12:40 PM
Minor context:
On the Wednesday show that kicked off the controversy, Imus told listeners, "That's some rough girls from Rutgers."
"Man, they got tattoos," he said. "That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that now."
The guy's an idiot.
Wah fucking wah. Who cares. He should get fired because he sucks, not because of what he said.
If you want to take what he said as something racist and not him thinking he was saying something that was funny, and fire him because of that, then its time to make it equal and do the same to ANY race poking fun at another. I just heard some clip of him on Al Sharpton's radio show and he was saying "jive" and "keeping it real". Maybe he is just trying to get all gangsta, hence the Nappy headed hos comment.
Don't they call diapers nappies in Europe or Canada or some shit? Maybe that is what he meant.
Either way, fuck a Don Imus.
It was hilarious when he was on Sharpton's show and he said--I can't win with you people! Then he started talking about how his wife held a black child's hand when they took him to the hospital for a check-up and how he raised money for sickle cell anemia. It was like the Seinfeld episode when George was trying to find a black friend. Years ago he admitted on Larry King that he called a secretary a nigger. The guy is a racist corpse and has never been funny.
HAHAH, yeah I heard them playing some stuff on Stern yesterday and it was like he was giving stories of every single black person they "did something nice" for.
"We drove to the hospital that was 120 minutes away for that kid".
He probably kept records of all of those incidents just for when something like this happened and he just had to go to his notecards. What a tool.
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 01:25 PM
I still don't get how in this day and age, someone can be so stupid. Not just him thinking these racist things (that's bad enough) but to SAY these things. He's seen what's happened to Michael Richards, Mel Gibson, etc. How dumb can you be to run your mouth off ON AIR? Did he think it wouldn't get picked up? Did he think people wouldn't be offended? I mean, Jesus Christ, how fuckin' retarded are you to not realize the controversy this would cause? How hard is it to keep your mouth SHUT?
You know what gets me....I listen to Stern. When I mention it someone inevitably says--Stern is racist, homophobic and demeaning to women. Then they talk about Imus and how he is cerebral....blah blah....
The thing is that if you listen to Stern you know that he is not racist or homophobic. I can see the objectifying women part but the women don't have to go on his show.
Imus is a complete imbecile and racist. He has had people on his show fired for racist comments in the past. I just can't stomach his bullshit zoo political Stern rip-off show. I really hope he gets the boot but if he stays it will be akin to life in prison vs the death penalty. He will have to hide the soap for the rest of his radio days. My guess is that he will implode very soon.
I still don't get how in this day and age, someone can be so stupid. Not just him thinking these racist things (that's bad enough) but to SAY these things. He's seen what's happened to Michael Richards, Mel Gibson, etc. How dumb can you be to run your mouth off ON AIR? Did he think it wouldn't get picked up? Did he think people wouldn't be offended? I mean, Jesus Christ, how fuckin' retarded are you to not realize the controversy this would cause? How hard is it to keep your mouth SHUT?
Honestly....he probably didn't think it was a big deal or would stir up such shit. Seriously think about what a lot of these "shock jocks" say and nobody does shit. Think about all these things comedians (excluding the Kramer incident) say about other people's races and religions, and nothing happens. He just thought it would be one of those kind of things.
I still don't get how in this day and age, someone can be so stupid. Not just him thinking these racist things (that's bad enough) but to SAY these things. He's seen what's happened to Michael Richards, Mel Gibson, etc. How dumb can you be to run your mouth off ON AIR? Did he think it wouldn't get picked up? Did he think people wouldn't be offended? I mean, Jesus Christ, how fuckin' retarded are you to not realize the controversy this would cause? How hard is it to keep your mouth SHUT?
You know...... I think hidden thoughts of hate always end up coming out of a backwoods idiots mouth. Fuzzy Zoeller losing it and telling Tiger Woods to have chicken or whatever those people eat to Jimmy the Greek saying that black athletes have an extra tendon that allows them to run faster and jump higher and on and on and on. I always love when some one toothed redneck sticks their foot in their mouth and their one tooth is left flapping in the wind. I would rather know someones backward thinking than let them be a private racist. Bring them all out so we can ostracize them for the slack jaws that they really are.
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
No, no, I agree. I'm just saying it's really stupid on their part.
I can see the shock-jock thing, them just thinking it's okay to say whatever they want, but even they should see that "nappy-headed hos" is a biiiiiiig no-no. I know they're supposed to border edgy, but it's just dumb to think they can get away with something as bad as this.
Either way, I never liked him. He always seemed too crotchety and angry for my liking.
abcdefz
04-10-2007, 01:47 PM
white men can't jump
The entire political correctness thing is ridiculous. It is a media generated hysteria. Someone says something contraversial and boom!.... it is all over the internet, tv, newspapers and radio.
Stereotypes are laughed at but it all depends on the conveyor of the stereotype. Some people can get away with it and others are vilified. It is a crazy world.
MC Moot
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Imus runs a charity camp/ranch for inner city kids somewhere in Texas,I think,it would be interesting to see the demographics of the kidz he welcomes to his O.K Coral.....
MC Moot
04-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Stereotypes are laughed at but it all depends on the conveyor of the stereotype. Some people can get away with it and others are vilified. It is a crazy world.
Too true,if the comment was made in a Dave Chapelle routine,people would'nt blink an eye.....context,context,context....
It is in New Mexico and he made sure to point out that there were black kids.
MC Moot
04-10-2007, 02:04 PM
"I'm not a bigot I have black friends".....what a sentiment....:mad:
ooo another good one is "I can make _____ people jokes, because my best friend is one."
morons.
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 02:18 PM
Stereotypes are laughed at but it all depends on the conveyor of the stereotype. Some people can get away with it and others are vilified. It is a crazy world.
I was also thinking about that, if roles were reversed. If it was a black dude on radio and called a white basketball team "Some non-jumpin' whiteys" people would just laugh at it. I personally don't like any kind of statements of the sort, even though I don't find the term "whiteys" particularly offensive, it does make me feel more outcast or different from the person saying it, which has to be worth something. Why not force it on everyone? What kind of message are we sending when we say "This is okay to say because it's about this race, but you can't say this because it's about this race"? I hate double standards. But I also hate being PC all the time. HOW'S THAT FOR IRONY?
kaiser soze
04-10-2007, 03:45 PM
imus, limbaugh, hannity, coulture
they all suck
imus, limbaugh, hannity, coulture
they all suck
you fucking liberal.
g-mile7
04-10-2007, 08:24 PM
Rappers and Black Sistas say the same, if not worst, then he did. This is Micheal Richards all over again
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 09:05 PM
^That's exactly why I respect Sharpton. He comes out against Imus for what he said, but he's also cruisaded against inappropriate rap lyrics and other things of the same vein.
g-mile7
04-10-2007, 09:10 PM
^That's exactly why I respect Sharpton. He comes out against Imus for what he said, but he's also cruisaded against inappropriate rap lyrics and other things of the same vein.
Except for the hoe part, nappy headed is a term that most Black people (who grew up with Black, old school parents or relatives) can releate too.....Sharpton is a hypocrit though he speaks out against rap and then is seen at Diddy's (as in Puffy's) annual all white party. Dude is a joke just making Black people dumber. He is the Black version of O'Riley (if not a little better)
QueenAdrock
04-10-2007, 09:42 PM
I dunno, I mean, you can be friends with people without agreeing with what they do. I'm friends with Republicans, people who donate to their campaigns, support the war, everything else. I don't think it's hypocritical of me to be friends with them. They're good people, just misguided in my opinion, and I try to get them to see my side whenever possible, in hopes to sway them. I don't think it's wrong for Sharpton to protest rap lyrics and be friends with Diddy at the same time.
g-mile7
04-10-2007, 10:10 PM
I dunno, I mean, you can be friends with people without agreeing with what they do. I'm friends with Republicans, people who donate to their campaigns, support the war, everything else. I don't think it's hypocritical of me to be friends with them. They're good people, just misguided in my opinion, and I try to get them to see my side whenever possible, in hopes to sway them. I don't think it's wrong for Sharpton to protest rap lyrics and be friends with Diddy at the same time.
Thats true but that does taint his crediblity when you speak about how hip-hop is damaging the youth with its illusions of false granger and then you are enjoying yourself at a party that was built by those same illusions you protest. But you made an excellent point though;)
Documad
04-10-2007, 10:30 PM
No one should respect Al Sharpton.
I agree with A-Z -- the team should ignore Imus. They shouldn't help him fix his PR problem.
YoungRemy
04-10-2007, 10:37 PM
Looking back on when I
Was a little nappy headed boy
-Stevie Wonder
adam_f
04-11-2007, 06:34 AM
Imus didn't even call them "nappy-headed hos" first anyway. I'm pretty positive it was his producer Bernie and no one really seems to care about that.
adam_f
04-11-2007, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by g-mile7
Except for the hoe part, nappy headed is a term that most Black people (who grew up with Black, old school parents or relatives) can releate too.....Sharpton is a hypocrit though he speaks out against rap and then is seen at Diddy's (as in Puffy's) annual all white party. Dude is a joke just making Black people dumber. He is the Black version of O'Riley (if not a little better)
Thank you.
QueenAdrock
04-11-2007, 07:33 AM
No one should respect Al Sharpton.
I agree with A-Z -- the team should ignore Imus. They shouldn't help him fix his PR problem.
I still do, because he's one of the only Democrats left with a spine. He says what he thinks and doesn't have research groups set up telling him if it's okay for him to say these things (cough, Kerry). I don't agree with everything the man says or does, but I do have a general respect for him. He's a very passionate guy and we need more people like that. For the past few years, we've had to deal with Democrats being terrified of the GOP and not really speaking their minds. I like how he doesn't put up with people's shit if he doesn't think it's right.
As for the team, I agree. If I were them, I'd just say "Fuck this guy" and tell the media he's not even worth their time to respond to such trash. It'd make them look better in the long run. Now it's just going to be a media circus of them saying that he was wrong and hurt their feelings and it was very messed up, he apologizes, blah blah. If they said he wasn't even worth it because they know they worked their asses off to get to where they are, I think that'd mean more.
Documad
04-11-2007, 08:02 AM
What made Al Sharpton famous in the first place is getting involved in legal cases, and manipulating the press and the emotions of good people in order to give himself more publicity. The most famous example is Tawana Brawley, which probably means nothing to people now (unless they saw a reference in connection with the Duke case), but that nightmare stretched out on the covers of newspapers and magazines for about a year and I'll never forgive him for that.
At first glance, it might appear that Sharpton is helping a victim of discrimination, but his main objective is to enhance his own profile. He usually overplays his hand, and thereby causes the general public to think that discrimination isn't a problem at all -- that it's all been invented by Sharpton for his own purposes. He actually hurts victims. He's become slightly more credible (he's always been entertaining) over the years but to me he's still the same huckster. A democrat who puts his arm around Sharpton is going to lose a lot of votes. Bill Clinton knew that.
abcdefz
04-11-2007, 08:47 AM
As for the team, I agree. If I were them, I'd just say "Fuck this guy" and tell the media he's not even worth their time to respond to such trash. It'd make them look better in the long run. Now it's just going to be a media circus of them saying that he was wrong and hurt their feelings and it was very messed up, he apologizes, blah blah. If they said he wasn't even worth it because they know they worked their asses off to get to where they are, I think that'd mean more.
Exactly. Plus, I think the whole "You hurt us so bad with your remarks" makes them look weak at best, and attention-seeking PC-manipulative at worst.
abcdefz
04-11-2007, 09:35 AM
Next up: Anna Nicole's baby's daddy, plus Kevin Federline's divorce settlement!
abcdefz
04-11-2007, 09:40 AM
I'll see your Petticoat Junction and raise you a Conjunction Junction.
checkyourprez
04-11-2007, 12:42 PM
one, is nappy headed hoe really that bad of a term?
two, hes a shock jock for f's sake. its his job to say dumbass stuff.
and i reaaaally find it hard to believe what he said was any worse than what a lot of Stern or Oppie and Anthony or whoever else says.
I think he should be able to say whatever he wants, who cares, if you or someone else doesnt like it turn it off. (I do think he is an idiot however)
Tone Capone
04-11-2007, 12:54 PM
I am just wondering why this is happening more and more these days? It seems like there is ALWAYS someone in the public eye who is spewing racial hatred and then there is a huge p.r. campaign to fix their image and zzzzz.....
The dude should just retire.
Wah fucking wah. Who cares. He should get fired because he sucks, not because of what he said.
Don't they call diapers nappies in Europe or Canada or some shit? Maybe that is what he meant.
This is not the first time he has publicly made some type of racial insult on his show. He actually referred to Sen. Barack Obama as "that colored fellow." In addition, He called award-winning journalist Gwen Ifill of PBS a "cleaning lady," and referred to columnist William Rhoden of the New York Times as a "quota hire."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/etan-thomas/imus-enough-is-enough_b_45574.html
I still don't get how in this day and age, someone can be so stupid.
yeahwho
04-11-2007, 05:09 PM
Here is Gwen Fill's piece about Imus from yesterdays NYTimes. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10ifill.html?em&ex=1176436800&en=de5e69d5a54dd6b2&ei=5087%0A)
Why do my journalistic colleagues appear on Mr. Imus’s program? That’s for them to defend, and others to argue about. I certainly don’t know any black journalists who will. To his credit, Mr. Imus told the Rev. Al Sharpton yesterday he realizes that, this time, he went way too far.
Yes, he did. Every time a young black girl shyly approaches me for an autograph or writes or calls or stops me on the street to ask how she can become a journalist, I feel an enormous responsibility. It’s more than simply being a role model. I know I have to be a voice for them as well.
So here’s what this voice has to say for people who cannot grasp the notion of picking on people their own size: This country will only flourish once we consistently learn to applaud and encourage the young people who have to work harder just to achieve balance on the unequal playing field.
Let’s see if we can manage to build them up and reward them, rather than opting for the cheapest, easiest, most despicable shots.
YoungRemy
04-11-2007, 07:30 PM
Imus didn't even call them "nappy-headed hos" first anyway. I'm pretty positive it was his producer Bernie and no one really seems to care about that.
it was imus... those are some nappy headed hos
Sharpton jumps on anything that will further his own agenda, then when the case turns out to be bogus, as in the previously mentioned Tawana Brawley case, or in the current Duke lacrosse case (all charges were dropped today), he is nowhere to be found, never a retraction or an apoogy from him, but always a demand of an apology from others...
he was raised by James Brown, though(y)
NBC dropped Imus from his MSNBC simulcast program.
http://westtexas.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D8OEPQTO0&_action=validatearticle
My guess is that CBS will not be far behind. I don't think he will make it back from his 2 week suspension:D
adam_f
04-12-2007, 06:34 AM
The Rutgers team is going to appear on Oprah. Yeah, they're not in it for the publicity at all.
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