Give It Up For the New Site

[Brother McDuff]

The site looks great guys, good work. much love. (y) (y)

[midzi]

Yeah Good job(y)

But I just noticed than when you go to Beastie boys live and press sections you get the old message board.

[minton]

Fixed.

[Kid Presentable]

Slick work team. Looks real nice. Bit wide, though. Is that just me?

[minton]

It's wider than the old site...but it's twenty oh seven, yo. You can't roll with the 800x600 screen resolution any more, it's time for 1024x768 minimum.

[Kid Presentable]

It's wider than the old site...but it's twenty oh seven, yo. You can't roll with the 800x600 screen resolution any more, it's time for 1024x768 minimum.

1024x768 on this thing would require a crankshaft and kerosene. Anyways, good job yo.

Edit: that's what I'm on. I just checked it.

[Laver1969]

Nice job...But, is just me or is something not loading properly just below the knobs? All I have is black text with one knob that says news?

And I'm running 1024 x 768 so I don't believe that's the problem.

[cj hood]

the site looks great!!!!!

[minton]

Nice job...But, is just me or is something not loading properly just below the knobs? All I have is black text with one knob that says news?

And I'm running 1024 x 768 so I don't believe that's the problem.

1) What browser and version?

2) Is this happening for you on all pages on the site/BBS?

[TAL]

I like it all.

I'm glad I'm not the only one with the problem of it being wide. Yes, 1024x768 is being used

[Jmoney77]

I relly love the look and feel of the new website, Great Job, guys!(y), i also agree with TAL up there - i like the boards centerd, but its not up to me this is just minor over all the new site and bords are awsome. Maybe take a poll or something

[abcdefz]

Look at all the pretty colors!

But, yeah... wide. Still, I can't complain. (y)

Nice job, guys!

[midzi]

I had to change the resolution now I only need another pair of glasses.:p

[synch]

Looks fine on both 1280x1024 and 1680x1050.

Actually it's a teensy bit narrow on 1680x1050, but I'll cope ;)


edit: the quick edit box is being flakey when saving though.

Windows XP, FF 2.0.0.3

[Nomen Nescio]

Everything looks good to me. Except the side scrolling. I'm set at 1024 x 768 and I have to side scroll about 3/4 of an inch on every page.

Browser type : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3

[tpk]

the graphics do stretch over 1024 in width resulting in horizontal scrolling for people runnin 1024 or less. we'll hopefully get this fixed..

[Laver1969]

1) What browser and version?

2) Is this happening for you on all pages on the site/BBS?

I'm using Microsoft Explorer 2003

And it's only happening on pages within the BBS.

:confused:

[abcdefz]

the graphics do stretch over 1024 in width resulting in horizontal scrolling for people runnin 1024 or less. we'll hopefully get this fixed.

Thanks (y)

[Jmoney77]

the graphics do stretch over 1024 in width resulting in horizontal scrolling for people runnin 1024 or less. we'll hopefully get this fixed.

COOL! I can say nothing but good things on the new look of the website you guys again did a good job, I look forward to updates and new stuff to look at

[Kezza]

Hey.... I do wide!! :eek:


Wonderfuel website - lovin' the clips the pics the sticks the chips..omg I'm losing it.................. I think I love it

YAY

[minton]

I'm using Microsoft Explorer 2003

And it's only happening on pages within the BBS.

:confused:

Weird. Can you send me a screen cap?

[minton]

edit: the quick edit box is being flakey when saving though.

Windows XP, FF 2.0.0.3

Noticed that, we'll check it out.

[TAL]

The "view post" icon or whatever it is that's next to the name of the user you quote is just a red x for me.

[minton]

Should be working now.

[ragdoll_92]

I love it. it's great

See, short but to the point, teehee

[TAL]

Should be working now.

Yep (y)

[Nomen Nescio]

Here's a screen grab of what I see in here..

http://www1.filehost.to/files/2007-05-17_03/234849_sidescroll.jpg

[SpuffyRJ]

yeah.. wow.. new site.. quite the amazingness =D

[Laver1969]

Should be working now.

Yep...thank you!

[jennyb]

LOVING the remodel! Excellent work everyone. OMG, I love it so much. I love the colors, the imagery, the bboy blogginess, the new music, etc... WOO! (y)

I spent the other night literally clicking on everything I could imaginable on it. Just checked to see if the board was up tonight and YAY!

[hitmonlee]

Slick work team. Looks real nice. Bit wide, though. Is that just me?

UM
this is a big problem for me
i have to scroll across for EVERYTHING and it is driving me nuts.

i'll do a screenshot if you want so you can see my pain?

[midzi]

I noticed that when you are on the main site and click on the board it takes you to the remix forum and not to the forums index. Or is it intentional?

[mathcart]

I noticed that when you are on the main site and click on the board it takes you to the remix forum and not to the forums index. Or is it intentional?
oh, oh, oh, me too, me too! (was wondering about that)
but other than that (normal for me) confusion- I'm most definitely diggin the new site- very nicely done, indeed.

[PussyCrumbs]

Nice work fellas! (y) (y) (y)
Place looks great.
I really like what you did with the a/v over there.
:)
-kerouac

[fonky pizza]

New site kicks ass!!

the samples on the button are great!!

The tech specs are dope!

New video great jam!

the blog, very cool!


(y)

[AdRockGRL]

The site looks great guys, good work. much love. (y) (y)

100% agree!

I love colors and I love how u built the new aspect! it's really interesting, i'm lovin it!!! at least, colors are WAYS BETTER than the old white/blue theme! Good Work!!!

[bigblu89]

UM
this is a big problem for me
i have to scroll across for EVERYTHING and it is driving me nuts.

i'll do a screenshot if you want so you can see my pain?

Agreed. I guess the board is in "widescreen" for the 16 people in the world that have a widescreen computer monitor.

[kleptomaniac]

lol i have a widescreen computer monitor...

i don't really mind the side-scrolling. the only thing that slightly annoys me is that it takes longer to load the page. i love the new site layout, it's amazing! :)

New site kicks ass!!

the samples on the button are great!!

The tech specs are dope!

New video great jam!

the blog, very cool!


(y)

what fonky pizza said ;)

[synch]

Agreed. I guess the board is in "widescreen" for the 16 people in the world that have a widescreen computer monitor.Nah, it seems to be optimized for 17" and over LCD screens or high spec 17" CRT screens (1280 1024+).

It's too narrow on a widescreen monitor.

[Nomen Nescio]

I don't mind scrolling for a website, but when it comes to reading each post, I can't be bothered to scroll all the time.

[Mr. Boomin'Granny]

Ok since I am a web-developer, let me chime in on a couple of things.

The page load is too long for what content there is on the page. I noticed that there are tons of scripts on the page that run on every page load. Is this really necessary? I do not see any lightbox functionality on the site. If there is then you should just limit that js file to that particular page.

I would also move each js function being called on the page to its own js file and call it in the script tag. Also the same for the on page css that is being used.

It takes 10-15 sec on a 3mb cable connection to view a page. That is not acceptable.

And I dont really like the color scheme, but that's me. That was probably decided by higher-ups and you guys have no control over it. The pastel colors really don't go together at all.

Thanks.

[minton]

The load time doesn't have anything to do with the JS or CSS...it's entirely to do with the DB server. We're aware of it and doing what we can to fix.

[kleptomaniac]

it's going much faster now, yaaaay! vrooooom! :)

[tpk]

it's going much faster now, yaaaay! vrooooom! :)(y)

[hitmonlee]

it's still too fucking wide.

this sucks

[minton]

We'll probably adjust it...just working out the bigger problems first.

[Documad]

It's much faster today that it was yesterday. (y)

I have a wide screen on my laptop, but I would appreciate it if you would fix the scrolling thing at some point. I like to do two things at once and reduce the size of the window the internet is in. I don't know how the message board magic works, but I know that it's fixable. I know that the new album-related news is more important though. :)

And that figured as soon as the main page came up that it was a mistake to date the band's entries. There will be obvious evidence on the main page of the band's level of interest in the site. Here's hoping that the band gets bored on their European tour and decides to add a new entry at some point. :D

[Mr. Boomin'Granny]

The load time doesn't have anything to do with the JS or CSS...it's entirely to do with the DB server. We're aware of it and doing what we can to fix.

Sorry about that. I didn't mean to sound like a jerk. All i could tell was that it was a client-side problem. my b.

[Friis gal]

why is the history knob just a google search, and not some thing like the one on Nastylittleman (http://www.nastylittleman.com/Clients/beastieboys/beastieboys.html)?

[YoungRemy]

beastieboys.com For The Win!

I like the multi-quote feature(y)

[tpk]

why is the history knob just a google search, and not some thing like the one on Nastylittleman (http://www.nastylittleman.com/Clients/beastieboys/beastieboys.html)?
google still has the answers to everything and there are plenty of well captured beastie boys history webpages out there. might be some changes in the future though but can't say.

[kleptomaniac]

i thought that was funny, whoever came up with it. :D

"google me, fool!"

[mixmastermike]

Yes, the new site is great(!)

But what's up with the forum?

When i tried to check it a couple of hours ago, it said: the forums will be open soon. But now it's open again. And i get this a lot:confused:

[minton]

We've had a few server and software issues -- hence the boards being down a little. Hopefully things will be all good soon.

[b-grrrlie]

UM
this is a big problem for me
i have to scroll across for EVERYTHING and it is driving me nuts.


Me too....

[Friis gal]

google still has the answers to everything and there are plenty of well captured beastie boys history webpages out there. might be some changes in the future though but can't say.

It's just more for new fans, who will might get more info for a reliable source, than from some random site, that only has info up to 1999 or something like that...
i thought that was funny, whoever came up with it. :D

"google me, fool!"

that was the first thing that came to my mind, and I think peolpe have done that :p

[hitmonlee]

UM
this is a big problem for me
i have to scroll across for EVERYTHING and it is driving me nuts.

i'll do a screenshot if you want so you can see my pain?

is this still on the "to fix" list. let me know if you aren't going to ever bother fixing it please.

[minton]

We plan on altering it...there are still bigger issues at the moment that need to be worked out first up however.

[Big Gus]

The "clicking on boards and being taken to remix section" thing is happening for me again.

[mathcart]

The "clicking on boards and being taken to remix section" thing is happening for me again.

Yup me too, for about the last 18 hours.
(Yeah 100!!!)

[minton]

Fixed it -- someone accidentally overwrote a file. It'll go live in the next build in a few moments...

[milleson]

UM
this is a big problem for me
i have to scroll across for EVERYTHING and it is driving me nuts.

i'll do a screenshot if you want so you can see my pain?

Um, so yeah. Any word on this issue?

[tpk]

Um, so yeah. Any word on this issue?like we've been saying, we're well aware of this and will fix it once we've taken care of some more complex issues we're trying to work out right now.

[hitmonlee]

cmon codemonkeys!~

[hitmonlee]

blargh!

about about an ETA?

2 weeks?

2 months?

my friend says that changing it from a fixed width to a fluid width is easy to do in the code and really shouldn't take any time at all.

[minton]

There's more to it than that. I'll try and get to it in the next couple of weeks.

[hitmonlee]

*cough*

[Documad]

It's difficult for me to understand why this can't be fixed.

[hitmonlee]

since you don't seem to be caring, i have taken a screen shot of a maximised browser, to indicate the troubles i am having.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/hitmonlee/thisisnogood.jpg

please please please can something be done about this

please

pretty please with a fucking cherry on top

[milleson]

This issue really is annoying.

[Randetica]

i dont have this problem but it sure must be some pain in the ass

[tpk]

it's a ridiculous problem fer sure. i'll actually make an attempt to get on it tomorrow.

our apologies for the long wait. :o

[Friis gal]

what's up with the techspecs? mike's drum pic is gone, and why isn't the sp12 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscilloscope/533260782/) on yet?

[minton]

what's up with the techspecs? mike's drum pic is gone, and why isn't the sp12 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscilloscope/533260782/) on yet?

Fixed the photo, good lookin' out.

[Friis gal]

cool (y)
and on the out lookin', I can't get the player to play on the tour site.

[YoungRemy]

and why isn't the sp12 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/oscilloscope/533260782/) on yet?

anyone? anyone?

[hitmonlee]

it's a ridiculous problem fer sure. i'll actually make an attempt to get on it tomorrow.

our apologies for the long wait. :o

longest tomorrow ever! :p

i honestly wouldn't whinge if it wasn't majorly annoying.

unless everyone could just type in short lines from now on.
hit return after about 20 words per line.
then i don't have to scroll.

:(

[tpk]

longest tomorrow ever! :p

i honestly wouldn't whinge if it wasn't majorly annoying.

unless everyone could just type in short lines from now on.
hit return after about 20 words per line.
then i don't have to scroll.

:(yeah i'm sorry, we've been pretty busy with other stuff. it's still on top of the to-do list though. it's going to happen.

[AznAlice]

Hello, I newbie here, so I don't know what the site and board looked like before, I just want to say that the people who designed it did a great job, the look and style very cool.

[b-grrrlie]

This issue really is annoying.
not is it only annoying, it's driving me crazy now that my mouse ain't working properly!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[hitmonlee]

still annoying here

VERY ANNOYING

[Kid Presentable]

I don't get why they had a memorial for that girl on Home and Away. She wasn't even in it for long.

Drew's hot mum ftw....

[hitmonlee]

FUCKING HELL

[taquitos]

quite right, quite right. far too wide indeed.

[hitmonlee]

if i bump this thread every day, is it more likely to annoy you, or prompt you to do something.

[minton]

It's still on the agenda.

[b-grrrlie]

and I'm bumping it again... :mad:

[b-grrrlie]

*cough*
.

[Lyman Zerga]

guess you have to wait till the admins re-design the whole site again

[milleson]

:(

[hitmonlee]

WELL BLOODY REDESIGN THE WHOLE THING THEN

i can only read short and superficial posts

this blows

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah, it's really irritating to scroll. especially on this tiny laptop.

[milleson]

I still agree. This side scrolling nonsense blows.



:(

[b-grrrlie]

Totally.

[hitmonlee]

bump

[hitmonlee]

bump

[hitmonlee]

i only started the second thread as i felt this one wasn't addressing the issue in the topic, and therefore couldn't rally the other people who are also having this problem.

its nothing but flat out prejudice.

(n):mad:

[tpk]

it's still goin down sooner or later. to give you a hint on why nothing has happened i'd say first of all it's been very busy for all of us, second of all it's not just changing a width variable for the board but also rearranging the whole flash header to go with the same width as you'd still be stuck with scrollin if the header had the same width..

though we're gonna work around this soon enough.

[hitmonlee]

cant you just change the boards then so i don't have to view them with the banner?

i've tried adblocking all the banner components but they won't go away.

do you not understand the importance of usability! how are people supposed to browse and enjoy the site? i live in a fairly developed nation with fairly decent computer and i'm having issues, what about people worse off than me.

:mad:(n)

[hitmonlee]

i'll bump this until the day i die!

:mad:(n):mad::mad::(

[Lyman Zerga]

more admins needed, i guess

[Lyman Zerga]

wow i never thought i would say this!

[hitmonlee]

possibly instead of bumping until the day i die, i will bump until the day i get banned.


FIXITFIXITFIXIT

i've been so patient.

[hitmonlee]

Everything looks good to me. Except the side scrolling. I'm set at 1024 x 768 and I have to side scroll about 3/4 of an inch on every page.

Browser type : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3

this was posted in may.

MAY

nearly 6 months! and you have said stuff like "tomorrow" or "soon"

just say never if you mean never.

:mad:(n)

[hitmonlee]

bump

[hitmonlee]

:) bump

[b-grrrlie]

Time to bump this again....

[hitmonlee]

MOTHERFUCKING BUMP

get someone to fix the code NOW

this is so fucking rude, prejudiced, elitist and wrong. its blatant discrimination.

[b-grrrlie]

i'll bump this until the day i die!

:mad:(n):mad::mad::(

.

[hitmonlee]

MOTHERFUCKING BUMP

get someone to fix the code NOW

this is so fucking rude, prejudiced, elitist and wrong. its blatant discrimination.

.

[mikizee]

I dont have to scroll. I didn't have to scroll with my 16 inch square monitor, and I sure dont have to scroll with my new 22 inch widescreen monitor.

Just change the resolution. Fixed in 30 seconds.

[hitmonlee]

if i change the resolution i can't read anything on the screen. it is all too small.

[Duckfisher]

ctrl - scroll

[hitmonlee]

ctrl - scroll

huh?

ps. BUMP

[TAL]

If you hold down Ctrl and scroll on the mouse wheel the window change size.
Makes the letters smaller though.


Bump.

[hitmonlee]

If you hold down Ctrl and scroll on the mouse wheel the window change size.
Makes the letters smaller though.


Bump.

yeah and you know what? it still doesn't fix my problem :rolleyes:

the text gets smaller, but the message window stays the same.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND MY PROBLEM HERE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/hitmonlee/itstilldoesntfuckingwork.jpg

YOU SEE THE EDGE THERE.... WELL I HAVE TO USE HORIZONTAL SCROLL
i'm not changing my resolution because i can't
making the text smaller does nothing

BEASTIE BOYS ARE PREJUDICED AGAINST LOW INCOME EARNERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD FANCY NEW COMPUTER SCREENS

[TAL]

Maybe it's an IE thing then. But I don't use it.

And I do understand your problem, because I have the same one.

[hitmonlee]

thank you tal <3


WAKE UP ADMINS

[Duckfisher]

wierd, i use the same browser, no problems, maybe didnt update in a while, i dont know.. sorry man

[Auton]

just wanted to give a shoutout to the mods. i'm loving the new site- looks great on my widescreen laptop. (y)

[b-grrrlie]

Maybe it's an IE thing then. But I don't use it.

And I do understand your problem, because I have the same one.

I use Firefox and I still have that same problem.
And pressing ctrl and mouseroller just makes the text smaller, but not the screen...







bumbeti bumb

[Documad]

I use safari and firefox and I have the same problem. I have a wide screen on my laptop,
so if I blow up the window to fill the whole screen I lose the scroll bar, but I don't have to
do that with ANY OTHER WEBSITE and I don't want to have to read posts that cross the entire
screen of my laptop. We're not meant to read text that is more than 7 inches across.

It's time to take the header down. Despite the denials and my complete lack of knowledge
about website design it's clearly the problem and it's hideously ugly to boot! Ever since Sarky
mentioned the two blues being different blues that clash with each other I concentrate on it.

(I'm putting my post in correctly sized lines. So there!)

[milleson]

Agreed, side-scrolling still sucks.

(n)

[taquitos]

seconded!

[Auton]

just wanted to give a shoutout to the mods. i'm loving the new site- looks great on my widescreen laptop. (y)

actually if i have one complaint, it's that it's not wide enough. otherwise (y)(y)(y)

[hitmonlee]

I use safari and firefox and I have the same problem. I have a wide screen on my laptop,
so if I blow up the window to fill the whole screen I lose the scroll bar, but I don't have to
do that with ANY OTHER WEBSITE and I don't want to have to read posts that cross the entire
screen of my laptop. We're not meant to read text that is more than 7 inches across.

It's time to take the header down. Despite the denials and my complete lack of knowledge
about website design it's clearly the problem and it's hideously ugly to boot! Ever since Sarky
mentioned the two blues being different blues that clash with each other I concentrate on it.

(I'm putting my post in correctly sized lines. So there!)

brilliant post (y)

[b-grrrlie]

and this issue still stays the same... :mad:

[Randetica]

never ending stoooooryy

[milleson]

*rummages up some pitchforks and torches*

[TAL]

It's only been 7 months. The Beastie Boys aren't known for their speed of releasing new
material, so maybe the site works in a similar way. Which it shouldn't.

[milleson]

:(

[Nomen Nescio]

The only time this place looks right is when I browse the forums using my PS3 on my widescreen TV.

[b-grrrlie]

*rummages up some pitchforks and torches**starts to look for matches*

[Documad]

I admire the stick-to-it-ness of some of my fellow board members.

[taquitos]

I admire the steadfast determination of the administrators to not change it

[Documad]

I suspect that we no longer have administrators.

[silence7]

Try as I might, I really don't see (http://beastiemixes.com/images2/othersites/beastieboysdotcomlarge.jpg) the problem...

Seriously, Static sites should be sized for the majority of your visitors... Graphics and gaming related sites tend to have visitors with higher screen resolutions. The trend is that "Most" people are moving away from their 800x600 screen sizes to something higher, 1024x768 being the norm now.

Sites can be made to size up or down to fit different screen resolutions, but it's harder to design a site to do that. An example, http://mashtapes.com/mashes.shtml this page should look just as good at a small screen size as it does on a larger screen because it's made to scale down. beastiemixes was designed to be a static sized site so I shot for the minimum, and made all the pages 750 wide, so even people 800 wide screens can see the whole page.

These are the stats for the last month's worth of visitors to Beastiemixes, and their screen sizes. Now if you were looking at the stats for say knittingworld the 800x600 size might be more popular.

1. 1024x768.........44.18%
2. 1280x1024.......14.28%
3. 1280x800.........11.07%
4. 1680x1050........9.25%
5. 800x600...........5.25%
6. 1440x900..........5.09%
7. 1152x864..........3.24%
8. 960x600............1.26%
9. 1920x1200.........1.23%
10. 1280x768.........1.10%

I would be willing to bet that the next incarnation of the site will be a little more friendly to those of you with small screen sizes. Your voice has been loud and your cause has been just.

[minton]

It's a lot of re-work to adjust something that most users don't have an issue with...When I have a sec I'll look into it again.

[hitmonlee]

Try as I might, I really don't see (http://beastiemixes.com/images2/othersites/beastieboysdotcomlarge.jpg) the problem...

are you perhaps blind? i've posted several screen shots illustrating my problem,
and since i am using 1024x768 (aka THE MAJORITY) then clearly it is a problem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/hitmonlee/thisisnogood.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/hitmonlee/itstilldoesntfuckingwork.jpg

minton: MOST users? perhaps not everyone can be bothered complaining.

[milleson]

*complains louder* (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/milleson/Argh.jpg)

[silence7]

are you perhaps blind?

Don't jump my shit, I started off with a joke and then tried to help. I saw your photos the first time you posted them. I told YOU that you were the majority. Did you know that before I posted the stats??

Did I once say that it wasn't a problem for you? Clearly I was joking that it wasn't a problem for ME.

I finished off with a little re-assurance that I thought you would get your wishes when the next version of the site launched.

I would be willing to bet that the next incarnation of the site will be a little more friendly to those of you with small screen sizes. Your voice has been loud and your cause has been just.

Now was that so bad?

Designing sites that work perfectly for everyone isn't easy. And re-designing one mid journey (Before the new design is ready) is a pain. For all we know Minton is busy as hell working on the 'NEW' design already and doesn't have time to fix the old one. We really don't know what goes on, on the other side of the screen do we? As much as we'd all like to think that we're in control of this place, we're not.

What you don't know: I spent about an hour of MY time last night looking for a plugin for Firefox that would help YOU view the site a little smaller without sacrificing text size, the only thing I could turn up was a plugin that would allow you to re-size text entry fields in forms, like the one I'm typing into right now. You can see it here (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3694)

Can we be friends now? ;)

S7

[hitmonlee]

Don't jump my shit, I started off with a joke and
then tried to help. I saw your photos the first time you posted them. I told
YOU that you were the majority. Did you know that before I posted
the stats??


jokes are supposed to be funny. did you know 90% of people only read one
line of a post before they move on? and the beginning of your post belittled
our situation.

and yes i was familiar with the stats, but i think it was you that posted them
the first time anyway? but yeah, CHEERS. if only someone was listening.


Did I once say that it wasn't a problem for you? Clearly I was joking that it
wasn't a problem for ME.


again, jokes=funny.


Designing sites that work perfectly for everyone isn't easy. And re-designing
one mid journey (Before the new design is ready) is a pain. For all we know
Minton is busy as hell working on the 'NEW' design already and doesn't have
time to fix the old one. We really don't know what goes on, on the other
side of the screen do we? As much as we'd all like to think that we're in
control of this place, we're not.


i'm the end user. the site should be designed for me, and people like me.
they should have designed a site that worked for the MAJORITY of people.
do i care if it's difficult? no. designing sites is not my job, it's their job.
plenty of people i know DO design websites, and all of them have forums with
fluid width. every single one of them said that this is easy to do. they could
have made a separate forum page without the header, since it is the header
that is causing the problem. but they didn't. WHY? because it is hard?
well BOO FUCKING HOO, that's your job, do it.

we should be in control of this place. if there were no users, there'd be
no messageboard.


What you don't know: I spent about an hour of MY time
last night looking for a plugin for Firefox that would help YOU view
the site a little smaller without sacrificing text size, the only thing I could
turn up was a plugin that would allow you to re-size text entry fields in forms,
like the one I'm typing into right now. You can see it here (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3694)

Can we be friends now? ;)

S7

i appreciate that dude.

i only wish that the people who could have actually fixed this problem, the
ones responsible for making the site user-friendly, had perhaps TESTED IT
and CHECKED if it was going to be a problem before it was launched.

fire them all.

ps. i'll try that at home on a laptop
i'm lucky enough to be borrowing a larger screen for now.

[minton]

It's a lot of re-work to adjust something that most users don't have an issue with...When I have a sec I'll look into it again.

Word.