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yeahwho
06-09-2007, 05:51 PM
Is Al Gore Sandbagging? The latest hype is about whether Al Gore will or will not run in the 2008 Presidential race.

If he does decide to jump in the race how do you feel about him being a possible President?

I find it sort of sickening when he gets all coy and avoids answering the obvious questions asked about whether he will run or not.

Michael Moore was on Bill Maher last week acting all excited that Al Gore may run for the 2008 Presidential race. That bugged the fuck out of me too.

Anyway before I get too much of my personal take on Al Gore, how do the peeps here feel about him perhaps jumping into the 2008 Presidential race at this juncture?

saz
06-09-2007, 07:41 PM
i think it would be amazing if gore were to run for the democratic nomination, gets it, and then is elected president. he was right about the iraq war (one of the brave few opposed to it at the beginning), he is right about global warming, he endorsed dean in '04, he's not part of the clinton-mcaullife-republican-lite democratic elite, he's picked up on edwards populist old school democratic economics, he's a nobel peace prize nominee, and most importantly he shed his old fake, boring, stale image and ditched the all of the advisors who were giving him bad advice and holding him back.

why do you find it sickening if he is ever coy? and why should it bug you if moore wants gore to run? do you want republican-lite full-of-shit hillary to win the nomination? anyways, every time i've seen gore asked the question, he's always given the same response, that he has no plans to run, but hasn't necessarily ruled it out. so what, what exactly is the big deal? the man is weighing his options, taking his time, and going about making a big decision in a rational manner. and besides, if he is going to run, it's better to jump in after he wins the nobel peace prize, and get into the race late, so he doesn't become stale, and can then generate a lot of excitement.

yeahwho
06-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Is Al Gore Sandbagging?and why should it bug you if moore wants gore to run?

Just what the democrats need, another glowing endorsement from Michael Moore, don't get me wrong, I have no issue with Michael Moore's body of work, he is IMO a true patriot. His political sense is actually great too, the problem is he is like a bull in a China Shop when he starts ranting on during these presidential campaigns. Clueless is how he sounds and looks, he's a director not an actor.

do you want republican-lite full-of-shit hillary to win the nomination? Hilliary is not going to be the next POTUS whether Gore runs or not. This much I am sure of. She is very brave to run, I admire her for the guts to run....but it isn't going to happen, because of multiple reasons, but mainly because the smear put on her since the 90's will never completely be cleaned. She is hated by millions of citizens, which happen to be the Republicans the Dem's are looking to woo over to they're side.

I am for Dennis Kucinich myself.

anyways, every time i've seen gore asked the question, he's always given the same response, that he has no plans to run, but hasn't necessarily ruled it out. so what, what exactly is the big deal? the man is weighing his options, taking his time, and going about making a big decision in a rational manner. and besides, if he is going to run, it's better to jump in after he wins the nobel peace prize, and get into the race late, so he doesn't become stale, and can then generate a lot of excitement.

Because this race is the most expensive election in American history, over a Billion dollars once is all said and done. The deal is if your seriously in the running the figure to achieve success is now set at $100 Million dollars by the end of 2007. So yes, that is a hell of a price tag to weigh options on. The theory of swooping in on the heels of greatness sickens me. This is a job that used to be the American Dream, if it doesn't appeal to you now, I'm not that interested in your convictions.

saz
06-09-2007, 08:37 PM
the problem is he is like a bull in a China Shop when he starts ranting on during these presidential campaigns. Clueless is how he sounds and looks, he's a director not an actor.

so what, he gets a little carried away at campaign rallies. it's not the end of the world.


Hilliary is not going to be the next POTUS whether Gore runs or not. This much I am sure of. She is very brave to run, I admire her for the guts to run....but it isn't going to happen, because of multiple reasons, but mainly because the smear put on her since the 90's will never completely be cleaned. She is hated by millions of citizens, which happen to be the Republicans the Dem's are looking to woo over to they're side.

it's hillary who has attempted to woo over republicans, by appearing more conservative, and no one is buying it. not because she doesn't lean to the right, but rather because hillary is a fake. but yeah i agree, i think a lot of right-wing pundits/blowhards want hillary to run, because she is very beatable, whereas obama and edwards pose a real threat, and are electable.


Because this race is the most expensive election in American history, over a Billion dollars once is all said and done. The deal is if your seriously in the running the figure to achieve success is now set at $100 Million dollars by the end of 2007. So yes, that is a hell of a price tag to weigh options on. The theory of swooping in on the heels of greatness sickens me. This is a job that used to be the American Dream, if it doesn't appeal to you now, I'm not that interested in your convictions.

well, that's american politics. a lot of dems, i think including gore, want to introduce legislation to make all american political campaigns publicly funded. anyways, you're not taking into consideration that gore would be basing a lot of his campaign funding on the grassroots/online movement. just look at dean in '04 and how refreshing it was to have a grassroots supported, anti-establishment dem, who also had the balls to challenge the status quo and the iraq war. again, gore endorsed him, was a huge supporter, and this is exactly what gore will do if he decides to run. personally, i think it would be so sweet if gore runs and wins next year; he was the true choice of the electorate in 2000.

funk63
06-10-2007, 12:00 AM
i think someone should tea bag al gore.

yeahwho
06-10-2007, 01:59 AM
I think Gore had a real chance perhaps 30 days ago, each day since has been a liability. I for one am sticking with Kucinich so the others get a sense of how to behave.

As we stroll into summer of 2007 I wouldn't mind seeing Gore becoming more politically active, but I've been through some pretty heated debates with right wingers on the job, they're smearing him directly over all other Democrats who are actually running right now.

That says something about Al Gore's political capital when the republicans are already bashing him and he isn't even in the race. The number 1 argument always turns to "Al Gore's Global Warming" and his idea of "Carbon Credits".

For myself I feel he is doing damage to his own credibility when he refuses to even answer what it will take to make him run for the 2008 presidential bid. Being forthright and ambitious makes much more sense.

I give him till the end of June to either put up or just shut up, quit hawking books and throw down for the party. He recently re-did his large homes and lifestyle to be more "Green" so that may be the tipping point that he's ready to be scrutinized.

The American voter has ADD, they will forget when he entered the race if he does so soon.

D_Raay
06-10-2007, 05:08 AM
Short answer ...yes. And he's very smart for doing so. At the precise moment when he escapes the immediate conscience of the American public is when he SHOULD jump in. After all, it was the long tedious process itself that cost him alot of votes the first time. It should have been such a landslide that any amount of fraud in the world would have been meaningless.

QueenAdrock
06-10-2007, 07:19 PM
I'm REALLY wanting Gore to run. I like Obama, I'm just not overly excited over him. When I think of any of the candidates now, Republican or Democrat, there's not a single one that stands out as "Oh, they can definitely go all the way and do it and be a great president." They either have great ideas, or have charisma, or have marketability, or the funds, or this that or the other. There's no candidate now that has the whole package.

I think Gore does. He's got the ideas I agree with. He's got the name recognition and funds to go all the way. He's no longer seen as "wooden," he's got a personality people have seen. Plus, he has the power of "I told you so" now.

I think he may run. I mean, when they ask him if he's going to, he says no. But if he's got a strategy of not throwing his hat in the ring until November, then duh, he'll say no. Saying yes now wouldn't do anything for him but lump him together with the rest of the rat race that is the Democratic candidates. By joining later, he'll shake things up and perhaps gain a greater crowd than the others. Obama's newness and ability to excite the people has died down a little, the same thing would happen to Gore. By waiting, perhaps he could hold onto his momentum longer.

I think I may write-in for him for the primaries, if he doesn't run. I really like him.

DroppinScience
06-16-2007, 11:31 PM
The idea of Gore running makes me salivate!

If Gore isn't in the race, Obama is my man, but if Gore enters, he'd definitely be my #1!

DroppinScience
06-16-2007, 11:32 PM
he's not part of the clinton-mcaullife-republican-lite democratic elite

Hmmm... which President did he serve under, again? :confused: