do you ever wonder

[zorra_chiflada]

"what the hell am i being punished for?" because i sure as hell am wondering that. or do you think that bad things just happen to random people and the whole "karma" and "cause and effect" thing doesn't exist? do you think things happen for a reason? i just feel now that the universe owes me big time now.

[mickill]

My life is good. Can't really complain.

[zorra_chiflada]

glad to hear that. i'm happy for you, you seem like a good guy and that you deserve good things. i mean that.

[mickill]

Thanks. I am a good guy.

But even when things more or less suck harsh ass, I can't complain. I know life is much worse for a lot of other people. I didn't mean for that to sound so trite, but it's all I've got. I also don't believe in karma. I believe in cause and effect though because you can't really argue with that. Karma, sure. Not cause and effect though.

[TurdBerglar]

zorra's drunk

[zorra_chiflada]

wow, give this man a medal!

[Otis Driftwood]

My name is Earl

[kll]

read the book, Many Lives Many Masters... it touches on this kinda stuff...

[ericlee]

Be proud that life is taking a dump on you in your early age.

I do believe that life eventually takes a dump on everyone eventually and if you're fed ice cream made from breast milk by the spoon through all your life till you hit the age of 30, and then decides to take a dump on you, you'll be at a state of confusion or "what the hell do I do? Fuck it, I go and die now".

My mom is my alltime god, role model for this and being that she's suffered so much in her lifetime, she's created 2 strong kids that could fart in the face of death, look at our watch and tell him, "oh that was a spinach induced flatuant btw".

She's a lady who married a guy who joined the Marines during Vietnam who fought, had two kids with her and then lost his mind thanks to Uncle Sam. Because of that, she needed an escape and she turned to some hardcore drugs. She began to sell them. I remember my mom having a job making only 8 bucks an hour but yet we owned a two story house with a basement, 3 cars and all the allowance my brother and I could think of.

She then dated a guy who beat her, her house got raided under the suspicion of her selling narcotics and they didn't find a damn thing. Even with their dogs but, she had a gram of coke that she gave to them cause she felt so bad about. This was 10 years ago and she's been clean since then.

During the time of her being clean, I've joined the army, been to war, got shot, she fell off her riding lawnmower while mowing the lawn causing the blades to slice into her thigh which made the life flight land in her backyard to take her to the hospital.

Anyway Z, my mom is almost 60 now and if you ask her if life has punished her, she'll reply with a, "Hell yeah and that's all it's got?"

Just keep on fighting.

[zorra_chiflada]

thanks eric. :)

[ericlee]

thanks eric. :)

You're welcome anytime. Call my rantings about life inspirational but, I just call them a normal living.

If I've lead the "normal" or "simple" life then all I could do is quote shit that I've seen in the movies or judge how bad a rapper's album is but nah, fuck that this is life. Life feeds us dogshit and with the scraps of dogshit we're fed, we learn to survive.

I just think that you have to earn life to enjoy it and if it's all palm trees and sunshine from the getgo, then what the fuck ya gonna do when it all breaks down?

[beastieangel01]

if you ask her if life has punished her, she'll reply with a, "Hell yeah and that's all it's got?"

that is awesome. (y)

[cookiepuss]

I'm just begining to think that if there is a god, he fucking hates me.:(

[SugarInTheRaw]

I've got news for you - this is hell.

[cookiepuss]

^ actually I think you're right.

[SugarInTheRaw]

^ actually I think you're right.

:o I know :(

[marsdaddy]

Damn people with same names thinking alike.

Karma = no.
Cause and effect = yes.
Luck = yes.

I want to see eric's mom in a "I've fallen and I can't get up" commercial.

[bigblu89]

It's life stories like the one Eric just posted up there about his Mom that makes me want to punch some of you (or people in general) in the face when you complain about the petty shit about your "life" that has you in such a foul mood.

Zorra, please realize this isn't aimed at you in any way at all. Honest. I'm just making a general statement.

There's just so many people out there, that through no fault of ther own, was dealt a real shitty hand and they hung in there and survived.

Think about Eric's Mom everytime a boyfriend/girlfriend/best friend/co-worker/boss does something that "you'll never recover from", like eating the last of the Cheetos without throwing away the bag or something.

[cookiepuss]

yeah I mean things could be worse....we could be this girl:

Six Flags and another company shut down eight more thrill rides Friday around the country after a teenage girl had her feet chopped off at the ankle on a Superman Tower of Power.

State inspectors, meanwhile, returned to Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom where the accident happened to examine the ride, which lifts passengers 177 feet straight up, then drops them nearly the same distance at speeds reaching 54 mph.

It was unclear at what point during the ride the 13-year-old was injured Thursday, said Wendy Goldberg, a Six Flags spokeswoman. The girl was taken to a hospital. She was not identified and details of her condition were not immediately available Friday.

holy fuck that sucks.


errrrr...but my problems aren't petty. they just don't suck as much as having my feet chopped off on an amusement ride.

[RaZoRbLaDe KiSs]

I do believe in the whole karma thing, I mean, if you do bad shit, then you deserve bad shit, but sometimes, it just seems like there isnt such a thing, like bad shits going to happen to you regaurdless if your a great person or not, and its times like those that make me want to make fun of every dumbass that comes my way, etc... even though I know that if karma is real, it's gonna come right back and bite me in the ass - after a while you just dont care.

[marsdaddy]

it just seems like there isnt such a thing, like bad shits going to happen to you regaurdless if your a great person or not,(lb)What goes up must come down...

[b i o n i c]

i was thinking that anyone who asks these questions cant be an atheist. sometimes i wonder.

i think life has a way of balancing itself out. i know that my life hasn't really had many enormous tragedies in my immediate family or anything like that, so i sort of feel like whenever it happens it will be really bad. i just sort of brace myself for it and cross my fingers. i've had my ups and downs, but the downs have always provided a momentum for highers ups later. the downtime can be productive.

[BangkokB]

Damn people with same names thinking alike.

Karma = no.
Cause and effect = yes.
Luck = yes.

I want to see eric's mom in a "I've fallen and I can't get up" commercial.


Karma = Yes
Cause and Effect Yes
Luck =Hell Yea

[funk63]

I don't know if we each have a
destiny, or if we're all just floating
around accidental-like on a breeze,
but I, I think maybe it's both. Maybe
both is happening at the same time.
I miss you, Jenny. If there's anything
you need, I won't be far away.

[DandyFop]

It's life stories like the one Eric just posted up there about his Mom that makes me want to punch some of you (or people in general) in the face when you complain about the petty shit about your "life" that has you in such a foul mood.


This frustrates me. Who are you to be judge and jury about something like this? We all go through our own bullshit. I'm not saying it's all justified, but you can't make someone's sorrow or pain tangible and put it on the scale with someone else's.

That being said, I do think many of us, myself included, do not appreciate the good things enough.

[Documad]

Sometimes things are really unfair. Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you make good choices and sometimes you make bad ones. I don't really believe in karma, but I know that a lot of good things come my way because I take chances (on people and in life choices) and if you take chances, sometimes good things are going to pop up and surprise you. I try not to worry too much about the little shit. Other times I obsess about how much of my life I wasted taking care of other people--years I'll never get back that honestly didn't do a damn thing for me.

I know that a few of you are just doing some healthy bitching, and a message board is a great place for that. But I beg of you, don't let yourself become the person who always has a black cloud hanging over your head. Some of that is in your control. Sometimes you have to force yourself to pretend that you're happier than you are and go out with friends and don't tel them the whole truth. Because if you're the person with the black cloud, it's going to only get worse, and the only people who will hang out with you are other people with their own black clouds, or super religious people who take you on out of pity.

[Documad]

I keep thinking that you're going to move to the states, get in touch with your american roots, and get an awesome job and want to stay here forever. You would fit in here. I know that you have the folks to take care of, but it's your long-term destiny to come back to your mom's home. It would make a terrific indie film too.

[DIGI]

Be proud that life is taking a dump on you in your early age.

I do believe that life eventually takes a dump on everyone eventually and if you're fed ice cream made from breast milk by the spoon through all your life till you hit the age of 30, and then decides to take a dump on you, you'll be at a state of confusion or "what the hell do I do? Fuck it, I go and die now".

My mom is my alltime god, role model for this and being that she's suffered so much in her lifetime, she's created 2 strong kids that could fart in the face of death, look at our watch and tell him, "oh that was a spinach induced flatuant btw".

She's a lady who married a guy who joined the Marines during Vietnam who fought, had two kids with her and then lost his mind thanks to Uncle Sam. Because of that, she needed an escape and she turned to some hardcore drugs. She began to sell them. I remember my mom having a job making only 8 bucks an hour but yet we owned a two story house with a basement, 3 cars and all the allowance my brother and I could think of.

She then dated a guy who beat her, her house got raided under the suspicion of her selling narcotics and they didn't find a damn thing. Even with their dogs but, she had a gram of coke that she gave to them cause she felt so bad about. This was 10 years ago and she's been clean since then.

During the time of her being clean, I've joined the army, been to war, got shot, she fell off her riding lawnmower while mowing the lawn causing the blades to slice into her thigh which made the life flight land in her backyard to take her to the hospital.

Anyway Z, my mom is almost 60 now and if you ask her if life has punished her, she'll reply with a, "Hell yeah and that's all it's got?"

Just keep on fighting.

Jesus, man. All that AND having to deal with the fact that your son has man tits?? She's a strong woman.

[cosmo105]

Sometimes things are really unfair. Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you make good choices and sometimes you make bad ones. I don't really believe in karma, but I know that a lot of good things come my way because I take chances (on people and in life choices) and if you take chances, sometimes good things are going to pop up and surprise you. I try not to worry too much about the little shit. Other times I obsess about how much of my life I wasted taking care of other people--years I'll never get back that honestly didn't do a damn thing for me.

I know that a few of you are just doing some healthy bitching, and a message board is a great place for that. But I beg of you, don't let yourself become the person who always has a black cloud hanging over your head. Some of that is in your control. Sometimes you have to force yourself to pretend that you're happier than you are and go out with friends and don't tel them the whole truth. Because if you're the person with the black cloud, it's going to only get worse, and the only people who will hang out with you are other people with their own black clouds, or super religious people who take you on out of pity.

listen to this woman. man, i hope i can be half as on point as you when i'm all grown up. :o

and i TOTALLY have thought the EXACT same thing about you, zorra! move to the US, start over.



we all have our bitchfests, and i agree that's healthy to an extent. you definitely need to let it out. but seriously, you can either lie down and complain about how shitty everything is and let yourself get further and further down the hole of self-loathing, or you can see that only you have ultimate power over how you feel, how you let things affect you, and how the course of your life unfolds.

[Randetica]

It's life stories like the one Eric just posted up there about his Mom that makes me want to punch some of you (or people in general) in the face when you complain about the petty shit about your "life" that has you in such a foul mood.

stop bitching about the bitching

[GetYourWarOn]

"what the hell am i being punished for?" because i sure as hell am wondering that. or do you think that bad things just happen to random people and the whole "karma" and "cause and effect" thing doesn't exist? do you think things happen for a reason? i just feel now that the universe owes me big time now.
i take full responsibility for my shitty lot in life

[zorra_chiflada]

It's life stories like the one Eric just posted up there about his Mom that makes me want to punch some of you (or people in general) in the face when you complain about the petty shit about your "life" that has you in such a foul mood.

Zorra, please realize this isn't aimed at you in any way at all. Honest. I'm just making a general statement.

There's just so many people out there, that through no fault of ther own, was dealt a real shitty hand and they hung in there and survived.

Think about Eric's Mom everytime a boyfriend/girlfriend/best friend/co-worker/boss does something that "you'll never recover from", like eating the last of the Cheetos without throwing away the bag or something.



look, i understand from your point of view, it seems that i'm just a whiny bitch who is complaining about nothing. fair enough, a lot of people have that idea about me. i know it seems like i'm a nasty person for no reason. however, i do kinda refrain about rattling off lists of why my life is really hard at the moment - mostly because once i start thinking about that, that's when it gets too much. it's easier to just keep my head up push all that bad shit to the back of my head.
the truth is, i don't think anyone in my life knows the complete circumstances of everything. the one person that did has packed his bags and walked out leaving the lasting note "it's your own fault that you don't have anyone that cares about you" i do admit that things would probably be easier to deal with if he was here, but thats' just the kind of weak and pathetic person he is and i'm very much better off without that in my life.

[-T-]

I find that I say whatever and what the fuck in my head alot. I know there are many many people who have it worse then me and I am thankful for what I have and what I am. Just keep on going.(y)

[QueenAdrock]

I have a friend who flew off to Rome recently to cheat on her husband with a man she meet there over the summer traveling with friends ....

the night she gets back ... gets off the plane ... drives to her friends house to pick up her dog who was being watched by a friend ... goes home ... gets out of her car .... and her dog ran off to go pee and a coyote grab it and mauled it right in front of her.

luck?
cause and effect?

nope.
I call that shit, Karma.

I don't think for a defenseless dog to suffer and lose his life is really proper karma for something SHE did. Something that would be karma against her is if she was flying back and got in a plane crash and severed all of her sex organs beyond repair. The dog thing seems like it would be karma for something HE did, like biting the mailman one too many times or something.

[venusvenus123]

karma is something people tell themselves exists to explain why bad things happen. i think it's pants. zorra, life has dealt you a shitty deal... at the moment. i'm sorry for you and i'm sure you'll come thru it stronger.

similar to my neighbour, whose mum died six months ago, leaving him with a useless dad and so practically an orphan at 18. how does karma have anything to do with that? the shitty dad is still alive and the loving mother is six feet under.


cause and effect is more plausible. so if, for example, you go out on some errands and are pleasant to people you meet, you're more likely to put them in a good mood and they'll pass on the good feeling. i think doing small things like that goes a long way.

spread the love, not the hate.:(

[ericlee]

Damn people with same names thinking alike.

Karma = no.
Cause and effect = yes.
Luck = yes.

I want to see eric's mom in a "I've fallen and I can't get up" commercial.

Why the riding lawnmower accident? Man, lemme break you the story.

I was in the army, just at Fort Benning Ga, at the time and I was in the field for two weeks.

The field really really sucks btw. You live in the woods for 2 weeks to a month basically, away from all captivity.

I get home from the field, check my mail and notice that my mom had sent me a letter, with pictures!! So I was happy.

I fuckin open the letter, look at the pics and it happens to be her mangled leg, after her coming home from the hospital and a letter saying, I got into a little accident boo, but I'm ok now.

I'm all like WTFFFFF!!??!?! and called her and asked her what happened. She told me, she told me the life flight even landed in her back yard cause it almost sliced the main artery in her thigh.

I then asked why didn't she call and she said cause she didn't want to interfere with my training and it wasn't anything major. FOR GOD'S SAKES!!

I've still got the pics. Imma post em here in a min. That fuckin lawnmower ate her leg up like a shark.

[Helvete]

Man, I wish my mom was like yours eric. Mine whines like a bitch all the time and feels sorry for herself. (She's been doing it for like 20 years ever since my parents split up) Your mom sounds infinitely badass.

I don't believe in all this cosmic karma rubbish, too many bad people out there doing too much bad stuff and getting paid for it to make that plausible. But on the other hand, I kinda think that things happen for a reason, which is kinda hocus pocus cosmic bullshit. I got myself in some bad shit a few years back, but I managed to get past it all (not go to jail) so I changed my life for the better and actually did something instead of procrastinating about it.

So now, my life is pretty cool and I'm having a great time.

[ericlee]

It's life stories like the one Eric just posted up there about his Mom that makes me want to punch some of you (or people in general) in the face when you complain about the petty shit about your "life" that has you in such a foul mood.

Zorra, please realize this isn't aimed at you in any way at all. Honest. I'm just making a general statement.

There's just so many people out there, that through no fault of ther own, was dealt a real shitty hand and they hung in there and survived.

Think about Eric's Mom everytime a boyfriend/girlfriend/best friend/co-worker/boss does something that "you'll never recover from", like eating the last of the Cheetos without throwing away the bag or something.

that's brutal:cool:(y)

[ericlee]

Man, I wish my mom was like yours eric. Mine whines like a bitch all the time and feels sorry for herself. (She's been doing it for like 20 years ever since my parents split up) Your mom sounds infinitely badass.

I don't believe in all this cosmic karma rubbish, too many bad people out there doing too much bad stuff and getting paid for it to make that plausible. But on the other hand, I kinda think that things happen for a reason, which is kinda hocus pocus cosmic bullshit. I got myself in some bad shit a few years back, but I managed to get past it all (not go to jail) so I changed my life for the better and actually did something instead of procrastinating about it.

So now, my life is pretty cool and I'm having a great time.

Well hey man, I respect you alot here. I aint gonna lie or anything, I can disagree with some of the comments and all but hey, everyone's entitled to their own voice, eh?

But you've joined into something that you can make a career out of, live with it and you've entered at the worst time so, I know for sure that you aint just some desk jokey riding it.

I've had some RF's with me a few times, fixed their bullpups while they sat in my condo sipping on my homemade wine. They felt like kings of the castle cause my wife even made some pot stickers.

Bad thing is though, one of those crazy bastids got so drunk after leaving my condo that he took the elevator down to the swimming pool, saw it and jumped in head first.. On the shallow end and landed on his damn head.

He had to go to the ER to get stitched up, luckily he didn't get a freakin concussion and drown cause he smacked that cranium on the bottom so hard that he had to get 28 stitches across his forehead going towards the back.

And then he had to enter a base where he'd get searched with a bandaged noggin, breath reakin of my hooch in a place where alcohol is strictly prohibited and got out into base with no problem, ya know why? Cause I pretty much knew everyone. The guys at the gates were pretty much people that used to be in my platoon and I dropped them the line to call once they've etsd.

I'm just hoping you go with the right attitude. If you happen to go cause hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do, no turning back now eh? Just don't fuck anything up and do anything you don't have to do.

Earn that damn red feather man. Make it to RFM's and keep that damn tradition of being level headed rather than trigger leaded.

But anyway, I'm babbeling like a babbelasauris and yeah, so maybe life will strengthen your moms. Everyone's got some strength in em. It just takes a little time till they realize it.

[Randetica]

the truth is, i don't think anyone in my life knows the complete circumstances of everything. the one person that did has packed his bags and walked out leaving the lasting note "it's your own fault that you don't have anyone that cares about you" i do admit that things would probably be easier to deal with if he was here, but thats' just the kind of weak and pathetic person he is and i'm very much better off without that in my life.

wow that sucks
dont know the whole background story though

love you

[ericlee]

yeah I mean things could be worse....we could be this girl:



holy fuck that sucks.


errrrr...but my problems aren't petty. they just don't suck as much as having my feet chopped off on an amusement ride.

Holy shit, that's horrid. And to think, my life's thrill and job was at the biggest event of my area, Cedar Point.

I used to ride those rides so scared that it was fun with a little hint of the shit's gonna break or something.

[befsquire]

zorra, i'm sorry to hear about you and joe, and i'm assuming that this thread is about the break-up more than anything else right now, and that's where this post is coming from.

no outside force can come inside a relationship that is good, strong, healthy and loving and destroy it. it's not karma or luck that can destroy it, only the people within the relationship have that power.

if joe needed something you couldn't give, that's not your fault, and it's not his fault either. and even though it hurts horribly right now, this relationship has taught you about what you need from the next one.

i had to learn how to be happy with myself before i could really make a relationship work. i don't know if this applies to you or not, but if it does, the first step is not getting sucked into your insecurities, but instead, recognizing your value. and you cannot for a moment let yourself believe anything he said in that shitty note, or you'll never see that you're a valuable person who deserves everything she wants.