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SugarInTheRaw
07-09-2007, 12:12 PM
It's a republic.

Schmeltz
07-09-2007, 12:25 PM
It's just spam.

Whatitis
07-09-2007, 12:26 PM
I pledge allegiance....

SugarInTheRaw
07-10-2007, 11:30 AM
It's just spam.
This is not spam. This post is an FYI for all of those who insist on saying the US is a democracy. I hear it in the news all the time! It's absurd. US citizens better get it straight. People are word-controlled creatures and, so, people should be wary of "democracy".

The US was not founded on a government where mob rules. America stands as a republic. A republic is supposed to protect a person and his or her property from the rule of the mob.

Democracy leads to tyranny.

Schmeltz
07-14-2007, 11:05 AM
The US was not founded on a government where mob rules. America stands as a republic. A republic is supposed to protect a person and his or her property from the rule of the mob.

Democracy leads to tyranny.

Ha ha, I like the implications there. So a Republic is an embattled caste system with the seething mass of poor combatively arrayed against the grasping propertied oligarchy? Nothing tyrannical about that at all.

SugarInTheRaw
07-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Ha ha, I like the implications there. So a Republic is an embattled caste system with the seething mass of poor combatively arrayed against the grasping propertied oligarchy? Nothing tyrannical about that at all.

Sure. Oligarchies are corruptible. I just think the US media needs to stop using the word democracy to describe a government established as a republic. These are two, different forms of government. This is just another case of people being misinformed and misled by "credible" sources.

EN[i]GMA
07-18-2007, 02:28 PM
This is not spam. This post is an FYI for all of those who insist on saying the US is a democracy. I hear it in the news all the time! It's absurd. US citizens better get it straight. People are word-controlled creatures and, so, people should be wary of "democracy".

You're just equivocating on what the term "democracy" means in two different senses.

'Democracy' is the term applied to say, the Athenian government, which is pure majority rule, and you could even say mob rule. But 'Democracy' is also a term used to apply to anyone country that holds elections to determine its representatives. So in this second sense America is a democracy. Then you take into account that a lot of America's more 'Republican' aspects like Federalism and limited government are taken less and less seriously by both representatives and voters and you see that the term 'democracy' becomes more and more accurate.


The US was not founded on a government where mob rules. America stands as a republic. A republic is supposed to protect a person and his or her property from the rule of the mob.

America was also founded on the principal that governments should be changed or abolished in accordance with the will of the people, and it so happens that most people in this modern era want a stronger Federal government with fewer Republican restrictions.


Democracy leads to tyranny.

And, ironically, so does a lack of democracy.

yeahwho
07-19-2007, 02:36 PM
^

Hard to refute. Excellent response EN[i]GMA.

EN[i]GMA
07-19-2007, 03:01 PM
^

Hard to refute. Excellent response EN[i]GMA.

I PASSED MY GOVERNMENT CLASS! WITH AN A!

SugarInTheRaw
07-19-2007, 05:53 PM
GMA;1491596']I PASSED MY GOVERNMENT CLASS! WITH AN A!

Thank you for helping me better understand. I started this thread in the hopes that you (or someone like you) would post and help clarify some things for me. I'm open to other people's take on things(y).

I was simply under the impression that the US is a republic and not a democracy. It concerned me to hear the word "democracy" in mainstream news with the word "republic" used close to never.

EN[i]GMA
07-19-2007, 05:58 PM
Democratic Republic would really be the pedantic term, but each word there points to a set of characteristics the government has.

bigboy7787
07-30-2007, 06:30 PM
It's a republic.


It's a represinitive republic.

Jasonik
08-13-2007, 04:14 PM
Our constitutional republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_republic) uses democracy unlike other forms of republics in recent times such as the USSR (socialist republic), PRC (peoples' republic), GDR (though the name would seem to suggest otherwise).


We elect the representatives to our republican form of government democratically.

The representatives in our republican form of government vote democratically.

Our constitution is what constrains the democratic impulses of the electorate, and more importantly our representatives, (would that it were so).:mad:

Bob
08-13-2007, 07:56 PM
It's a represinitive republic.

christ, i bet you spelled that phonetically