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bigboy7787
08-07-2007, 05:58 AM
If you don't agree, many liberals will try to shut you up!

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57004

BeticoCM
08-07-2007, 08:48 AM
It's 'liberal' but more importantly criminally stupid to invade and occupy a country under false pretenses.

Bob
08-07-2007, 08:54 AM
shut up

QueenAdrock
08-07-2007, 09:47 AM
hahahaha

D_Raay
08-07-2007, 04:38 PM
If you don't agree, many liberals will try to shut you up!

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57004

And just how do you suppose a "liberal" attempting to speak at a conservative rally would be greeted?

bigboy7787
08-08-2007, 08:38 PM
He would not be silenced!

It seems to me that if the liberals can't win, they try to stop those who do not agree. (Look at what they are trying to do with the Fariness Doctrine)


And just how do you suppose a "liberal" attempting to speak at a conservative rally would be greeted?

bigboy7787
08-08-2007, 08:40 PM
Is that the best you can do? Sounds like a typical liberal.

If they don't have facts they just say "shut up"

shut up

Bob
08-08-2007, 08:44 PM
Is that the best you can do? Sounds like a typical liberal.

If they don't have facts they just say "shut up"

oh man, i didn't even think of it like that

i can't believe the hypocrisy i just exposed

and accidentally, at that

god damn i'm dumb

of all the dumb things i could've said i had to say a dumb thing like that, and give you ammo

oh man, wow. wow i am bested. i'm going right wing now, i'm on the losing side, that's how dumb i am

so glad this post exists

bigboy7787
08-08-2007, 08:49 PM
Please prove that Bush LIED about WMD's.

You can't prove it, because you can't prove he had knowledge to the contrary.

Did Clinton, Kerry, and Blair lie about Saddams WMDs?


http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/clinnton.htm


http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html

It's 'liberal' but more importantly criminally stupid to invade and occupy a country under false pretenses.

D_Raay
08-08-2007, 10:52 PM
You really want to go down this road whoever you are? Maybe you should just peruse the old posts for a while.

Did you just step out of a time machine or something and miss the last 5 years?

Oh, let me guess, the damn "liberal" media has done lied to us all this time right?

bigboy7787
08-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Again,

No one has proven that Bush "LIED" about WMDs.

Did Clinton lie? Did Kerry lie?

In order to lie, you must have knowledge to the contrary.

Nice Try though


You really want to go down this road whoever you are? Maybe you should just peruse the old posts for a while.

Did you just step out of a time machine or something and miss the last 5 years?

Oh, let me guess, the damn "liberal" media has done lied to us all this time right?

Schmeltz
08-09-2007, 08:05 AM
Looks like that intellectually depressive time of year I like to call "gmsisko season" has come around for the 2007 edition.

Carlos
08-09-2007, 08:27 AM
lol schmeltz ;)

EN[i]GMA
08-09-2007, 12:16 PM
Looks like that intellectually depressive time of year I like to call "gmsisko season" has come around for the 2007 edition.

You know, for the last, I don't know, year or so, I've felt a hole in my life, something missing that I couldn't put my finger on, some aspect that completed me.

I now realize that this was gmsisko's hard-hitting, trenchant political analysis. I was lost at sea without it.

bigboy7787
08-09-2007, 03:06 PM
Looks like that intellectually depressive time of year I like to call "gmsisko season" has come around for the 2007 edition.


Please answer post # 11.

bigboy7787
08-10-2007, 05:36 AM
I'm still waiting.


Please answer post # 11.

BeticoCM
08-10-2007, 08:33 AM
Again,

No one has proven that Bush "LIED" about WMDs.

Did Clinton lie? Did Kerry lie?

In order to lie, you must have knowledge to the contrary.

Nice Try though

2 things, jackass.

'the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence' circular logic that rove and his PNAC cronies pulled about the wmd's is akin to the phantom attack in the gulf of tonkin. it was as genius as it was evil. lying about a blowjob didnt cost hundreds of thousands of lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and all respect from around the world. nice try though.

in the event that bush the second was truly going on his gut about the wmd's...ignorance may be bliss, but its criminal if you're the selected president of the united states. impeach the motherfucker already. dark lord cheney too.

money says you probably got maybe a quarter of my references.

bigboy7787
08-10-2007, 05:07 PM
First: Don't call me jack ass

Seccond: Bush was voted into office twice

Third: You still haven't proven Bush "LIED"

Fourth: Did Kerry and Clinton lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?


2 things, jackass.

'the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence' circular logic that rove and his PNAC cronies pulled about the wmd's is akin to the phantom attack in the gulf of tonkin. it was as genius as it was evil. lying about a blowjob didnt cost hundreds of thousands of lives, hundreds of billions of dollars and all respect from around the world. nice try though.

in the event that bush the second was truly going on his gut about the wmd's...ignorance may be bliss, but its criminal if you're the selected president of the united states. impeach the motherfucker already. dark lord cheney too.

money says you probably got maybe a quarter of my references.

marsdaddy
08-10-2007, 05:18 PM
I know it's already been said, but apparently it wasn't effective:

SHUT UP!

bigboy7787
08-10-2007, 06:25 PM
It's going to take alot more than that to win an argument with me.

Again if anyone is smart enough, please prove that Bush "LIED"

Please answer the simple questions that I have asked in previous posts.




I know it's already been said, but apparently it wasn't effective:

SHUT UP!

Bob
08-10-2007, 06:43 PM
first: shut up

second: you smell

third: shut up

fourth: lol

First: Don't call me jack ass

Seccond: Bush was voted into office twice

Third: You still haven't proven Bush "LIED"

Fourth: Did Kerry and Clinton lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?

yeahwho
08-10-2007, 07:07 PM
George Bush is the worst president this country has ever witnessed. If your one claim to fame is nobody has attacked your country on your soil since your first term, you've really fucked up. Chaos is what we have for our government.

Bush Lied. (http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html) Numerous times.

Carlos
08-10-2007, 07:28 PM
First off - lets not be fooled by this liberal/right wing falacy. You guys haven't had a true liberal president for 30 years or more.
Clinton was the best Republican the country has ever had (in Conservative terms)- I suggest reading first couple chapters of Moore's Stupid White Men for the list of blatently right wing measures he put into place - very similar to how Blair has been the most right wing Conservative over here in UK (even though he is Labour). They are Birds of a feather, master orators and actors.. don't be fooled.

As for Bush and this dispicable regime - bigboy, what exactly is your point: yes no one can prove empirically that he lied - unless someone else who lied starts to tell the truth.. which isn't very likely.
But it actually isn't vital to condenming the administration as yeahwho quite rightly does, to be the worst in living memory, if not ever.

Even though there is no absolute proof that Bush, or top level officials within the government lied regarding Iraq. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that within weeks of Bush getting into power the neo-con plan for world headgemony set out by cheney and wolfy in mid 90's came into full effect. We have numerous officials who have stated that they were obsessed about Iraq, and Saddam.

Bigboy, you may well be against so called 'liberal' values.. however no one with compassion and an open mind can surely support the current regime.

TimDoolan
08-11-2007, 01:23 AM
first: shut up

second: you smell

third: shut up

fourth: lol

Hahaha

bigboy7787
08-11-2007, 05:35 AM
Bush was in office for 8 months before 9-11.

Clinton was in office for 8 years before 9-11.

Clintax did nothing about the first WTC attack in 1993.

He did nothing about the Cole attack.

If you want to point fingers, make sure they are pointed in the right direction.




George Bush is the worst president this country has ever witnessed. If your one claim to fame is nobody has attacked your country on your soil since your first term, you've really fucked up. Chaos is what we have for our government.

Bush Lied. (http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html) Numerous times.

yeahwho
08-11-2007, 10:30 AM
Bush was in office for 8 months before 9-11.

Clinton was in office for 8 years before 9-11.

Clintax did nothing about the first WTC attack in 1993.

He did nothing about the Cole attack.

If you want to point fingers, make sure they are pointed in the right direction.

What was the question? You asked if someone could prove if Bush lied. I put a direct link that has some of what Bush said pre-Iraq war.

Mount Rushmore was established 78 years before 9/11. Mount Rushmore did nothing to deter the terrorists attacks.

Bob
08-11-2007, 11:14 AM
What was the question? You asked if someone could prove if Bush lied. I put a direct link that has some of what Bush said pre-Iraq war.

Mount Rushmore was established 78 years before 9/11. Mount Rushmore did nothing to deter the terrorists attacks.

yeah but clintax

D_Raay
08-11-2007, 02:29 PM
Notice how he totally avoids Carlos' post...

Clinton at least attempted to act on intelligence. Bush's crew got intelligence and then went on vacation.

BeticoCM
08-12-2007, 08:32 AM
Notice how he totally avoids Carlos' post...

Clinton at least attempted to act on intelligence. Bush's crew got intelligence and then went on vacation.

thats called being pwnd. seriously, is the kid that lazy that he couldnt just google bush lies?

i'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of websites and news links. but then again, apparently he's displaying the fundamentalist/conservative power of self-imposed ignorance and denial when the truth is in front of him.

bigboy7787
08-12-2007, 12:57 PM
Where did you get this "Bush on Vacation" crap?

Sorry, M. Moore is not considered a reliable source of info.

Clinton didn't act on anything. He was offered Osama by the Sedan, and he didn't take him. Clintax did nothing about the first WTC attacks, he did nothing about the Cole attack.

Notice how he totally avoids Carlos' post...

Clinton at least attempted to act on intelligence. Bush's crew got intelligence and then went on vacation.

bigboy7787
08-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Let me take it real slow so you can understand.

In order to prove someone "LIED" you must first prove that they said somthing that they knew was not true. You have not done that.

Again please answer this simple question. Did Clinton lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? What about Kerry, Blair, Edwards. Did they lie when they said Saddam had WMDs.

You need to get your facts together before you can prove a lie.


What was the question? You asked if someone could prove if Bush lied. I put a direct link that has some of what Bush said pre-Iraq war.

Mount Rushmore was established 78 years before 9/11. Mount Rushmore did nothing to deter the terrorists attacks.

synch
08-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Did a teensy bit of reading and found out that the soldier in question was silenced because a soldier in uniform isn't allowed to participate in public political debate. He wasn't even allowed to be there.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

Paragraph 4.1.1.3

4.1.1. A member on active duty may:

4.1.1.3. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political meetings, rallies, or
conventions as a spectator when not in uniform.

No need to thank me!

yeahwho
08-12-2007, 05:45 PM
Let me take it real slow so you can understand.

In order to prove someone "LIED" you must first prove that they said somthing that they knew was not true. You have not done that.

Again please answer this simple question. Did Clinton lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? What about Kerry, Blair, Edwards. Did they lie when they said Saddam had WMDs.

You need to get your facts together before you can prove a lie.

You need to rephrase your original question dumbass, first it was prove Bush lied, he is the commander in charge at the time of the lies I supplied. After you tell your lies you have to rally your lies around and gain support. He did that. The others either knowingly lied along with him or chose, as the media, to avoid asking the tough questions before the war.

Complicity, which you seem to be part of is a better word, bottom dollar is they all lied, they all did the wrong thing and we are now officially in a quagmire.

PS, I'm super happy you showed up, most of the other Bush supporters left. It's getting harder and harder to just agree with everybody.

mikizee
08-12-2007, 08:46 PM
I can't believe in this day and age with all the information we know that even just one person in this world could see bush as anything but blatantly incompetent and corrupt.

He and his dodgy administration has done more damage to the US than any terrorist organisation could ever dream of.

Carlos
08-13-2007, 03:37 AM
PS, I'm super happy you showed up, most of the other Bush supporters left. It's getting harder and harder to just agree with everybody.

can't beat a bit of easy entertainment ;)

bigboy7787
08-13-2007, 05:41 AM
You still haven't proven Bush lied.

You still haven't answered my simple questions.

Did Kerry and Clintax lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?



You need to rephrase your original question dumbass, first it was prove Bush lied, he is the commander in charge at the time of the lies I supplied. After you tell your lies you have to rally your lies around and gain support. He did that. The others either knowingly lied along with him or chose, as the media, to avoid asking the tough questions before the war.

Complicity, which you seem to be part of is a better word, bottom dollar is they all lied, they all did the wrong thing and we are now officially in a quagmire.

PS, I'm super happy you showed up, most of the other Bush supporters left. It's getting harder and harder to just agree with everybody.

yeahwho
08-13-2007, 11:37 AM
You still haven't proven Bush lied.

You still haven't answered my simple questions.

Did Kerry and Clintax lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?

Your reading comprehension skills are not good. I answered every question you've asked. Those extremely tough questions you've asked are mind boggling. I am just worn out from having to think so hard. I'm glad you've volleyed with the difficult quandaries first.

Did you come up with "Clintax" all on your own? That is really clever. I'm going to get out of your maddening hornet's nest now to catch a breath.

BeticoCM
08-13-2007, 11:59 AM
You still haven't proven Bush lied.

You still haven't answered my simple questions.

Did Kerry and Clintax lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?

for the sake of argument, everyone lied. what does that matter? noone decided to throw hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives and a sovereign country out the window except for the decider himself...oh and have a bunch of incompentent cronies fuck up the invasion and occupation as only republicans can.

republicans and conservatives, making america lose wars since world war 2.

synch
08-13-2007, 01:08 PM
You still haven't proven Bush lied.

You still haven't answered my simple questions.

Did Kerry and Clintax lie when they said Saddam had WMDs?
You still haven't responded to my post about your original post.

Bob
08-13-2007, 01:12 PM
i have a simple question

you stink lol

HAL 9000
08-14-2007, 05:20 AM
I thought GMSisko was banned. How did he get back in here?

Probably moved house and has a new I.P. or something.

mikizee
08-14-2007, 08:16 AM
someone needs to get the opiniontron up in this shit

HAL 9000
08-14-2007, 09:08 AM
Its funny, I always used to give gmsisko crap because he once admitted he was really really overweight but then denied it. Now he comes back with the user name 'bigboy' which is what I would call an 'own goal'.

bigboy7787
08-15-2007, 06:08 AM
Are you calling Iraq under Saddam a Sovereign Country?

Ha Ha

Are you telling me that Republicans are incompentent and Democrats are not? Ha Ha

You still haven't proven Bush "LIED"

for the sake of argument, everyone lied. what does that matter? noone decided to throw hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives and a sovereign country out the window except for the decider himself...oh and have a bunch of incompentent cronies fuck up the invasion and occupation as only republicans can.

republicans and conservatives, making america lose wars since world war 2.

bigboy7787
08-15-2007, 06:09 AM
Thats not a question.


i have a simple question

you stink lol

Carlos
08-15-2007, 06:23 AM
Thats not a question.

... oh dear :eek:


anyway I'd been holding back til now, but I just can't resist.:cool:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bushlie.html

BeticoCM
08-15-2007, 08:54 AM
Are you calling Iraq under Saddam a Sovereign Country?

Ha Ha

Are you telling me that Republicans are incompentent and Democrats are not? Ha Ha

You still haven't proven Bush "LIED"


What's your address? I'm going to mail you a dictionary since its obvious you need one to look up the word sovereign. About incompetency, Republicans take the cake. Since your brain shuts down when confronted with the truth, I'm not even going to defend my previous statement since it will be a waste of time. Bush lied, and if he didnt realize most of the shit that came out of his mouth were lies, he is the dumbest motherfucker to ever becoming potus.

During a debate with Mr. Gore on October 11, 2000 in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Mr. Bush said this:

"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building. . . . I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations. Maybe I'm missing something here. I mean, we're going to have a kind of nation-building corps from America? Absolutely not."

and to quote your dumbass... 'ha ha' (?) glad you find the current state of affairs led by now a rove-less bush administration gives you impetus to exert your asshattery.

Bob
08-15-2007, 12:21 PM
you didn't answer my question

Thats not a question.

synch
08-15-2007, 01:56 PM
You are ignoring my original post.

And my post about my original post.

And you'll probably ignore this one.

You post dodger.

A. Chimendez
08-16-2007, 01:41 PM
Mount Rushmore was established 78 years before 9/11. Mount Rushmore did nothing to deter the terrorists attacks.

Hahahahahahaha. Gold.