Serious question: is this a sexist remark?

[DroppinScience]

Okay, so in discussion with various presidential candidates, the subject turns to Hillary Clinton and whether or not she'd be good as President. I say: "Well, maybe it'd be not so bad if Hillary was the President. I mean, that'd mean Bill Clinton would be the President for 4 more years."

This girl just flips out at me and calls me mysogynist and sexist. What she's insinuating is that Hillary Clinton, as a woman, is not capable of leading or making decisions so she'd need the help of her "hubby" Bill to step in. I insist that's not what I mean, and what I mean is that it'd mean a Hillary presidency would just mean a return to the Clinton-90s, but she's having none of it insisting it's sexist regardless of what my intent was.

I'm convinced she's flew off the handle on this one. So weigh in, is this coming straight out of left field or am I some horrible some woman-hater? :eek:

I tell ya, this is the most ridiculous exchange of all-time.

[icy manipulator]

that's just pc gone mad

[Drederick Tatum]

just tell her to shut up.

[mikizee]

just tell her to shut up.

and get back in the kitchen before you slap her.

[marsdaddy]

Not sexist, but not too bright, either. Hilary is not nearly as charasmatic as Bill, nor in Arsenio Hall still on. Sheesh!

[ms.peachy]

I might not have been intended as sexist, but it was kind of a dumb thing to say.It's pretty easy to construe that as meaning because she's his wife, she would not have her own ideas or initiatives, that she is just an extension of him. Which comes across as sexist, whether that was your intent or not.

[roosta]

yeah, she's way worse than bill....

[Bob]

just tell her to shut up.

ya dumb skirt

but no, i don't think it's sexist. i can understand why someone might initially think it's sexist, but if you then say "oh whoa hang on a second, i didn't mean it like that i just meant blah blah blah" then that'd be alright. but if she just says "no that's not what you meant, THIS IS WHAT YOU MEANT YOU PIG" then she's being a dick

[Yeti]

Democrats have an incredible opportunity to win back the presidency yet they may offer up the most polarizing candidate to the American voters. Hillary has no shot in the south or midwest unless Obama agrees to be her running mate. A Clinton/Obama ticket might have a chance.

It never ceases to amaze me how Democrats can take chicken salad and turn it into chicken shit.

[Kid Presentable]

Okay, so in discussion with various presidential candidates, the subject turns to Hillary Clinton and whether or not she'd be good as President. I say: "Well, maybe it'd be not so bad if Hillary was the President. I mean, that'd mean Bill Clinton would be the President for 4 more years."

This girl just flips out at me and calls me mysogynist and sexist. What she's insinuating is that Hillary Clinton, as a woman, is not capable of leading or making decisions so she'd need the help of her "hubby" Bill to step in. I insist that's not what I mean, and what I mean is that it'd mean a Hillary presidency would just mean a return to the Clinton-90s, but she's having none of it insisting it's sexist regardless of what my intent was.

I'm convinced she's flew off the handle on this one. So weigh in, is this coming straight out of left field or am I some horrible some woman-hater? :eek:

I tell ya, this is the most ridiculous exchange of all-time.

Pretty much what I think, mostly from your perspective, a little from hers.

[Documad]

If someone said that to me, what I'd hear is that you think Bill would be pulling the strings behind the scenes. I'd wonder whether you believe that because of something you believe about Bill and Hillary or whether you just think that husbands call the shots in relationships. If I knew you to be a sensitive new age guy, I'd ask wtf you mean.

If I challenged you, and if you explained that you meant that they were likely to have the same friends and thus a similar cabinet and similar appointments, I'd accept your explanation.

Your statement was just missing a word. If you said that it would like having Bill as president again instead of saying that Bill would be president again, I'd still wonder why you assume that but I wouldn't think you're a pig. :)

[TurdBerglar]

that's not sexist, it's funny

[Funky Pepp]

The other way around this would mean that having Arnold Schwarzenegger in any political position would mean a return to the Kennedy-60s. But no one would even think about suggesting something like that. And I think this is because he is a man!

But anyway: I would never call you sexist (or that other word you mentioned, I don't even know :p)!

[Kid Presentable]

It's sexist of that girl to remark that a man could only refer to female presidential candidates in a derogatory manner.

[Kid Presentable]

Dammit, cmute.

[cookiepuss]

I might not have been intended as sexist, but it was kind of a dumb thing to say.It's pretty easy to construe that as meaning because she's his wife, she would not have her own ideas or initiatives, that she is just an extension of him. Which comes across as sexist, whether that was your intent or not.

or you could possibly take it as: Hillary ran things when Bill was in office so it will be like going back to his presidency...but that's more of strech to construe that from how it was said.

[Yeti]

When Bill put Hillary in charge of a new healthcare system she really took the bull by the horns on that initiative.

[Documad]

yeah, all you guys should keep trying to spin it so that it's not sexist. :p

[DroppinScience]

If someone said that to me, what I'd hear is that you think Bill would be pulling the strings behind the scenes. I'd wonder whether you believe that because of something you believe about Bill and Hillary or whether you just think that husbands call the shots in relationships. If I knew you to be a sensitive new age guy, I'd ask wtf you mean.

If I challenged you, and if you explained that you meant that they were likely to have the same friends and thus a similar cabinet and similar appointments, I'd accept your explanation.

Your statement was just missing a word. If you said that it would like having Bill as president again instead of saying that Bill would be president again, I'd still wonder why you assume that but I wouldn't think you're a pig. :)

I have zero doubt that Hillary will run things herself if she does indeed become President. Bill's not going to call the shots, BUT it's silly to think he won't have an influence in some form or another in that hypothetical administration. I mean, if you were her, your husband got to be President of the United States, of course you'd seek his counsel when necessary. The makings of a good President means you need the right people to advise you. From where I'm standing, it's very cut and dry.

And yes, similar policies to President Bill is definitely a strong possibility. I mean, they're IN a political alliance and they're both centrist Democrats. Then again, President Bush and his daddy turned out to be quite different even if they invaded the same countries, so who knows, right? :p

[sound boy]

i think she is more sexist than you for pointing it out. you had no intention of sounding that way.

[ms.peachy]

you had no intention of sounding that way.
Intention schmention. The road to hell, etc, etc.

[abcdefz]

You can argue that it's rude to point out that someone's being rude, but I don't know that it's sexist to point out that someone's being sexist. Consciously or not.

[adam_f]

This is why bitches shouldn't be able to vote.

[Rock]

cankles.

[Bob]

You can argue that it's rude to point out that someone's being rude, but I don't know that it's sexist to point out that someone's being sexist. Consciously or not.

it depends on whether they're actually being sexist or not. here, droppin' didn't seem to be. but if his friend was like "oh you mean because bill will be pulling the strings? yeah, a man would think that" that's pretty sexist

[Drederick Tatum]

this is just another case of a woman being too emotional and not being able to drive properly.

[Laver1969]

When Bill was President I remember hearing that Hillary was actually calling the shots. And I heard the term dual-presidency thrown around in the 90s.

[Lex Diamonds]

Way to set back the past 100 years of feminist blood sweat and tears, you shitty helm.

[Yetra Flam]

It doesn't seem sexist at all, what you said. However, maybe with your tone of voice and inflection and body language you seemed to express it in a sexist manner.