So, I hate the Army and want to get out.

[Helvete]

Yep, title says it all. The honeymoon period is most definately over and the reality of this shit has hit me. Things were going great for the first year or so through training, but now I'm in the 'real' Army, turns out things suck and it's doubtfully going to get much better.

But as you may or may not know, once the Army has you, it can keep you against your will for like 4 years. Sure, I chose to join up entirely of my own will and have no-one else to blame but myself, but there is no way you can know what it's really going to be like until it's too late.

Now, here is where the dilemma starts. Getting out. I'm going to give it a few more months or so, hoping things will settle and I'll be able to stick it for a few more years. Or maybe I can get in a transfer to another regiment where perhaps my talents are more suited. But then it would be a case of grass is greener on the other side, or thinking it is. I could even possibly get a transfer across as an officer, but that maybe not be possible.

So, getting out altogether may be my only option. Drugs is almost a sure fire way to get your ass kicked straight out of the Army, but sometimes they make exceptions and can keep you in. And with an Iraq tour on the cards mid 2008, they need the manpower in an already undermanned regiment. Also it could affect me in the long run. You get discharged under "admin", but any employer who is in the know could work out that is not a good thing.

So, I'm pretty fucked for the time being. Being kept against my will with a bunch of assholes doing shit I hate and getting ready to go to a country where I could get my ass blown up for all this shite.

Hey, you'll all probably say 'you signed up, deal with it', but maybe someone can offer me advice in what I could do in this situation. Oh well, nice talking. Just wanted to let you know what was up.

[TurdBerglar]

sledgehammer to the knee

[Helvete]

Depends whose knee, the Colonel's, and I'd get jail. My own, and I'd get sent to a head doctor first, and then they'd just wait until I'm fit again and make me stay. At most I'd be medically downgraded, but I'd still stay in.

[TurdBerglar]

develop colorblindness

[Bob]

why'd you join and why do you hate it?

[Helvete]

why'd you join and why do you hate it?

I thought it would be the change in my life that I needed, some excitement, chance to travel, meet new people, make some great friends. I hate it because I am surrounded my assholes, because the job I am doing sucks, I feel as if I am wasted doing the shit I do, because I feel I have no future in the unit I am with, I get treated like shit along with everyone else around me and so many of them are signing off, but I can't do that because I need to serve another 3 years.

I feel absolute contempt and hatred for the Army, the chain of command and it's authority.

[ericlee]

Holy crap, I've gotta hold my balls with the cuff of my hand when I read this to make sure they don't explode from the LOL's I'm getting from this thread

Dude, everyone thinks the same thing at your time frame.. Eh, you're the only one? It will pass.

I've made advanced surivival and sniper school when I was at my all time "feel low about the military" experience.

You quit now, you're quitting the rest of your life.

You've raised your hand, you've made a pledge. Dammit, stick with it and quit bein a puss.

[Lyman Zerga]

im sorry to hear

hope you find a way out of this and another way into me!


the news are not exactly a cheer up but im glad anyway to hear a lifesign from you, i was about to go shitless scared

[Lyman Zerga]

Holy crap, I've gotta hold my balls with the cuff of my hand when I read this to make sure they don't explode from the LOL's I'm getting from this thread

Dude, everyone thinks the same thing at your time frame.. Eh, you're the only one? It will pass.

I've made advanced surivival and sniper school when I was at my all time "feel low about the military" experience.

You quit now, you're quitting the rest of your life.

You've raised your hand, you've made a pledge. Dammit, stick with it and quit bein a puss.

well shut up, not everyone is a eriklee not even chuck norris is

[ericlee]

well shut up, not everyone is a eriklee not even chuck norris is


damn right. I do push ups with my moobs.

[Kid Presentable]

There's no point making big decisions like joining the army unless you're going to follow through with them. You'll be right.

[Lyman Zerga]

you dont know before how it's really gonna be

[Kid Presentable]

you dont know before how it's really gonna be

Then why bother? Why go through life thinking things are going to be rosy (when common sense dictates that rosy doesn't really exist) and then do a runner when they're not?

I'm sure he knew it would be hard. It's like writers. Everybody who thinks they want to be a writer simply wants to have written. Very few can actually do the hard yards to get there.

He either wants to be in the army, or wants to be 5 years down the line telling people he was in the army. As I see it, he's passed the first one, and that's the key to getting to the second one. He won't get anything out of quitting.

Pampered fucking people and their delicate feelings. He can do it. He just doesn't want to.

[Lyman Zerga]

sure he can but why losing life time or even his life for something he hates

people make wrong desicions all the time, calling him a puss is silly

quitting might make his life better, thats what he could get out of it

[Kid Presentable]

sure he can but why losing life time or even his life for something he hates

people make wrong desicions all the time, calling him a puss is silly

quitting might make his life better, thats what he could get out of it

I'm not calling him a puss, at all. Far from it. He had the balls to sign up, which is something I'd never be able to do. But surely he didn't expect it to be easy? Much less fun? Life is neither when it comes to the big decisions a lot of the time.

If he's simply looking for a way out, then people are entitled to tell him it's his own fault, he signed up and so on. I'm posting on the off chance he's just doubting his choice.

Enough of my patronising (which I'm sure it's coming off as), I'm just trying to offer my perspective. What of the next thing he pursues? What if that doesn't fill him with ever long radiant ROYGBIV diarrhea?

[Lyman Zerga]

I'm not calling him a puss, at all. Far from it. He had the balls to sign up, which is something I'd never be able to do. But surely he didn't expect it to be easy? Much less fun? Life is neither when it comes to the big decisions a lot of the time.

If he's simply looking for a way out, then people are entitled to tell him it's his own fault, he signed up and so on. I'm posting on the off chance he's just doubting his choice.

Enough of my patronising (which I'm sure it's coming off as), I'm just trying to offer my perspective. What of the next thing he pursues? What if that doesn't fill him with ever long radiant ROYGBIV diarrhea?

yeah erik called him a puss, you just have to pay for his mistakes haha

life just doesnt seem to go too well for helvete and he knows what he has or hasnt done so he doesnt need some smartass shit from others (i would guess) , he is just asking for advice

[fucktopgirl]

I am sorry to hear that your dream of the army is not what you expected. I remember when you were telling us about it and i did not comprehend why you wanted to go fight some wars that are absolute lies. War is no fun.

I really hope you will get kicked out if it is your desire. If you are not happy and you despised it, do everything you can in your power to be free. And the people that say he is a pussy or acting like a kiddo who is not happy because he want to quit, wtf? Maybe he fucking realize how this army thing really suck, maybe he come to his sense and want to live his life , travel , meet new people in other circumstance.

I Hope you will find a solution, i cannot offer advices other then follow what you feel.

[Kid Presentable]

yeah erik called him a puss, you just have to pay for his mistakes haha

life just doesnt seem to go too well for helvete and he knows what he has or hasnt done so he doesnt need some smartass shit from others (i would guess) , he is just asking for advice

I wasn't trying to be a smartass. I really wasn't.

Life goes fine for him if he can make choices, though.

[Lyman Zerga]

i probably care more about the posts than he ever could so youre safe

[Videodrome]

i think you should just stick it out. in my experiences i've learned that everything has its highs and lows. i have quit more times during rough patches than ever just stuck it out. i look back on some of those events and wish i would have made different choices. i thought high school sucked, so i quit. i ended up just getting my GED. i missed out on my entire senior year. instead i walked the stage at some middle school with my other fellow nonhackers. that single decision set the stage for quitting great jobs, giving up on my marriage, and other numerous dumbass choices. only now at almost thirty years old am i repairing my quitting lifestyle and sticking things out. one poster said, "quit now and you'll quit everything for the rest of your life" that shit is so true. quitting is easy. living with the fact that inside you know you're a quitter is a totally different story.

[ma belle]

Its not quitting its changing direction.
Smoke weed and tell them you're gay:D
We all know the US army sucks - its killed a lott of the English soldiers that died out there in Iraq. Neither the US or the Uk should be there anyway.
if it wasn't for those assholes at the top sending the poor out to kill each other (its never their kids is it?) we'd all get along just fine. We're all the same anyway.

[ericlee]

Just don't do anything stupid to get out because you can totally screw your life up if you get an unhonorable discharge.

You could probably get out on conditions other than honorable such as failure to adapt but, I still wouldn't recommend that.

Just hang in there, do your contract and e.t.s. How long did you sign up for?

[insertnamehere]

If you've ever seen any movie ever about a branch of the US (or really any other) armed forces, you should know that it's hard as all fuck and sucks a lot. I know recruiters try to paint a pretty picture, but I don't see how people actually go in believing what recruiters tell them. I've had musings of joining the army basically because I'm a fuckup (see thread regarding university) and it seemed like a way to do something with my life and get some useful training since my college education is going down the shitter, but everytime I start to think about it, I think of the first half of full metal jacket. And then I think of A picture on the cover of some magazine we get at work of this girl that was like 23 and got her legs blown off. And then I decide that maybe I don't want to join the army after all.

[mp-seventythree]

Can you buy yourself out? I know someone who bought his way out of the Navy, not sure if same applies to the Army.

[MC Moot]

Just let your natural homosexual tendency's shine through,you know behave in the barrack showers like you do at those turkish baths your type like so much.....(y)

[skra75]

I want to join the army.

Australian army is like, what, training to throw basketballs at the wall and run around in circles? I say go for it. I can't imagine Australia is in any risk whatso ever of terrorist invasion/attack/etc.

[MC Moot]

UMMMM…Australia has troops deployed in Iraq,Afghanistan,Myanamar and is still trying to clean up Suharto’s mess in Indonesia…..so yeah,the Armed forces in Aussie land is not the move….not that renouncing your personal freedoms,individuality,right to dissent and express free thought and practice is a good move at any time....(n)

[Lyman Zerga]

Just let your natural homosexual tendency's shine through,you know behave in the barrack showers like you do at those turkish baths your type like so much.....(y)

wtf? go back and fuck your leather couch

[MC Moot]

wtf? go back and fuck your leather couch

huh?....I thought you wanted to see me copulate with a waterbed,girly,get it right....1 thrill at a time now....:D

[Lyman Zerga]

aww you remembered

[-T-]

I agree with ericlee, do not do something stupid. Stick with it and see what happens.

[hellojello]

I wish I could cut out and frame the first and second post helvete made in this thread and give it to ever fucktard who ever even entertained the idea of joining the army.
I'd say since you are pretty much stuck there maybe you should try moving into a different area, you never know it might work out better for you. A change is as good as a holiday.
but we all know thats bullshit.

[Helvete]

Oh well, I will probably stick it out, I've never been a quitter. It's not the worst thing in the world and it's just going to take some time to settle in.

But I would never recommend to anyone that they should join the Army, unless you are joining as an officer or to get a trade and then get out with qualifications.

[Kid Presentable]

You got the special part dialled.

[tracky]

suicide is always an option

[Helvete]

suicide is always an option

Go for it.

[Jitters]

My school called me yesterday trying to get me to join the Navy or something.

I told them I'm not allowed around weapons and/or pointy objects.

[Yetra Flam]

Assault rifles are pretty cool. I mean killing and violence is bad and everything. But like, just theoretically, AKs are pretty cool.

[hitmonlee]

what happens if you just leave.

do they arrest you?

:confused:


and just for a bit of monday trolling fun - anyone who joins the army and is prepared to kill people is fucked. honestly, who the fuck do you think you are? what gives YOU the right to kill another human being. not who gives you the right, WHAT does?

[Yetra Flam]

well that's just a big philosophical can of worms

[hitmonlee]

i'm bored and i like a good argument. i'm not arguing for the sake of it though, i believe what i am saying.

[Yetra Flam]

Well i suppose, in simple terms, it's a matter of defending your country, its territories, and attacking people before they attack you. In reality, it's much more complicated and fucked up than that, with people fighting and killing others for bullshit reasons.

[Schmeltz]

and just for a bit of monday trolling fun - anyone who joins the army and is prepared to kill people is fucked. honestly, who the fuck do you think you are? what gives YOU the right to kill another human being. not who gives you the right, WHAT does?

Are you saying that there has never been, nor will there ever be, a situation in which warfare or killing is justifiable? Because that's a crock of shit.

[hitmonlee]

Are you saying that there has never been, nor will there ever be, a situation in which warfare or killing is justifiable? Because that's a crock of shit.

i'm saying that i personally will never ever kill a human being, and those who do must be a special breed of sicko.

Well i suppose, in simple terms, it's a matter of defending your country, its territories, and attacking people before they attack you. In reality, it's much more complicated and fucked up than that, with people fighting and killing others for bullshit reasons.

yeah i don't really give a fuck about any of that shit.

i'd rather be invaded and killed, than kill others.

[Schmeltz]

i'm saying that i personally will never ever kill a human being, i'd rather be invaded and killed, than kill others.

That's fine for you, but surely you must accept that not everyone is so weak-willed as to prefer self-destruction to self-defense. There's nothing sick or psychopathic about recognizing the need for security services and the tasks they perform, distasteful though they may seem.

[hitmonlee]

That's fine for you, but surely you must accept that not everyone is so weak-willed as to prefer self-destruction to self-defense. There's nothing sick or psychopathic about recognizing the need for security services and the tasks they perform, distasteful though they may seem.

how could you live with yourself knowing that you have killed another person, a person who is told by their government that they are doing the right thing, a person with feelings, a person with a family to support, a person like you?

i am not weak willed. i just don't consider the value of my own life to be more valuable than anyone elses.

[Schmeltz]

how could you live with yourself knowing that you have killed another person

If the only other option is not living at all, I imagine I could live with it pretty easily.

If your will to live is not sufficiently strong to motivate you to defend yourself against a threat or an attacker, then I would say you're pretty weak-willed.

[Yetra Flam]

Hitmonlee, i think might probably be in the minority when you say that you would rather be killed than kill someone. I don't know, i could be wrong, but in a life or death situation, I think that most people would go to extreme lengths to make sure that they survive.

[hitmonlee]

yes i see your points. i place no value on my life, but i'm aware that a decent percentage of the world do in fact value their lives. so i figure the person who wants life more, can have it.

i still don't think this makes me weak willed. lazy perhaps.

and i still maintain that i personally could never live with the guilt of taking another human beings life, and wonder about the sanity of those who can do it and not suffer immense amounts of guilt for the rest of their lives.

[Yetra Flam]

I would say that most people do feel guilt about it.

[hitmonlee]

living life guilty isn't really living life.

[russhie]

A friend of mine joined, realised he hated it and got discharged for having shin splints after 6 months. The army offered to fix him up, but he wanted out so off he went.

Now they're so desperate to get people to join you can do a one year stint during your gap year.

[tracky]

I wouldn't feel guilty defending my country and myself. I don't think it's ever going to come to that, but if I had to step up I would. As it is, there's no need to invade our country by force, we just let everyone in (providing you go through the proper channels otherwise we lock you up). Killing is never right or justified, but to not fight back would just allow anarchy to take over.

[Drederick Tatum]

i'd rather be killed, than kill others.

in a life or death situation, I think that most people would go to extreme lengths to make sure that they survive.

^exactly. I think that when it came down to a situation where this was a possibility, your beliefs or 'laziness' no matter how concrete they seem now, would be suppressed by the human instinct not to die. you'd put yourself before your slightly bizarre values.

[fucktopgirl]

I would kill to survive but war has nothing to do with survival nowadays.

The countries waging the war at the moment are not being invade, they are the ones invading others for the sake of profit, power and control. Imperialism and the propagation of one doctrine: Neoliberalism. The life of the soldiers are not in danger if they would stay home, now they go out there and, of course, they put their life in a precarious state but for no reason. Those war don't concern us, the citizen, we are the puppet that the elite use to gain ground and spread their hegemony.

[Drederick Tatum]

yes we know. fix the record, it's broken.

[Lyman Zerga]

i dont know what to do with my life..ARMY!

i would probably join a convent if everything else fails but yeah suicide is cool too

[fucktopgirl]

yes we know. fix the record, it's broken.

haha fuck off!!

And it seem that nobody understand this concept because people still want to go into the army or still argue that it is good and defending the country and balblabla.

[TurdBerglar]

i'd kill hitmonlee just because she'd let me

[Bob]

i'm saying that i personally will never ever kill a human being, and those who do must be a special breed of sicko.



what about people who kill in self-defense? i'm not talking about armies here, i'm talking about someone who's just walking down the street or something, gets attacked, and instead of allowing themselves to be raped to death they crush a guy's head with a rock or something. it's not their plan to kill or anything, they just freak out, reach for the nearest heavy thing and instinctively try to hurt the attacker as bad as they can. they're a special breed of sicko for doing it?

[TurdBerglar]

bob, just kill her so you don't have to argue with her

[Bob]

bob, just kill her so you don't have to argue with her

i might steal her bike, but i wouldn't kill her, i'm not that bad

[Whatitis]

haha fuck off!!

And it seem that nobody understand this concept because people still want to go into the army or still argue that it is good and defending the country and balblabla.


For some people it is good to join the armed forces, some people need it and believe it or not it is what some people want to do as a career even before they join. It is a noble and self awarding thing to do in a lot of peoples eyes. You can't see that because of your political stance. You have put yourself in their shoes to see it and you can't. I did join the army and everyone I met was in for many different reasons. Mine was money for school and being an army brat for the first 10 years of my life helped make that decission. Being in a wartime situation is different. I can honestly say that I would not jump to join at this time but I'm not 18 years old anymore and when you are younger there is a bit of invincibility you have.

[TurdBerglar]

i might steal her bike, but i wouldn't kill her, i'm not that bad

but it's not that bad! she doesn't care! remember???

[hitmonlee]

what about people who kill in self-defense? i'm not talking about armies here, i'm talking about someone who's just walking down the street or something, gets attacked, and instead of allowing themselves to be raped to death they crush a guy's head with a rock or something. it's not their plan to kill or anything, they just freak out, reach for the nearest heavy thing and instinctively try to hurt the attacker as bad as they can. they're a special breed of sicko for doing it?

as long as there is no intent to kill, only intent to disable them enough to get yourself out of trouble, then i think that's ok.

[paul jones]

who remembers that Status Quo song 'In The Army Now'

it's well funny(y)

[DJ_Skrilla]

You quit now, you're quitting the rest of your life.

You've raised your hand, you've made a pledge. Dammit, stick with it and quit bein a puss.

Eric R u in the marines...? I didnt read your 6000+ other posts. The 2 services I have been warned about are Marines then Army. Continue the banter of the mindless drones.... I am not into it, because I can. I joined the Storm Trooper Army on the Hoth Base. We should defeat the Rebels in no time, and seige their Oil! High five.

[DJ_Skrilla]

the M*A*S*H theme comes to mind right about now.

"Suicide is painless"

Anyone watch Weeds, the brother gets drafted...

[Schmeltz]

It's a shame so many people have such ass-backwards ideas about one of the most vital and significant elements of Western cultural traditions and civic institutions. One of my sisters feels much the same way as hitmonlee about the armed forces, and there's simply no reasoning with her on the subject because she's determined to see the issue from only one superficial, reactionary perspective. I just can't get behind the kind of blinkered absolutism that assigns you guilt for defending yourself against a direct threat. It's nonsensical.

[hitmonlee]

actually i see it from several superficial reactionary perspectives.

- what's the point - we're all going to die anyway. the world will keep on turning
- why fight under a government you didn't vote for?
- how do you know that what you're fighting (read: killing) for is the right thing? (which brings us to more complex issues like - who decides what the right thing is. america? iraq?)
- killing humans is fucked, people who kill humans are fucked.

[Loppfessor]

Wait isn't this dude like in the Canadian Army?? WTF?? Suck it up pussy...

[Kid Presentable]

i'd kill hitmonlee just because she'd let me

pffft. You'd just go for a siiiick mountain-bike.

[TurdBerglar]

im not ever sure what that's suppose to mean

[Lyman Zerga]

Wait isn't this dude like in the Canadian Army?? WTF?? Suck it up pussy...

in the english one i sure hope so

[Lex Diamonds]

The army is designed for homosexuals to polish large phallic weapons and enjoy communal showers without any women around to get in the way.

[Loppfessor]

You've seen too many movies....not army movies either most likely gay pornos

[Lex Diamonds]

Aren't they the same thing?

BAM!
*makes another slit in the butt of his rifle*

[Schmeltz]

- what's the point - we're all going to die anyway.
- killing humans is fucked, people who kill humans are fucked.

That's at once superficial, reactionary, and self-contradictory. None of your points hold any water and they only serve to further illustrate the weakness of your position.

[Loppfessor]

This shit is cracking me up...

[fucktopgirl]

For some people it is good to join the armed forces, some people need it and believe it or not it is what some people want to do as a career even before they join. It is a noble and self awarding thing to do in a lot of peoples eyes. You can't see that because of your political stance. You have put yourself in their shoes to see it and you can't. I did join the army and everyone I met was in for many different reasons. Mine was money for school and being an army brat for the first 10 years of my life helped make that decission. Being in a wartime situation is different. I can honestly say that I would not jump to join at this time but I'm not 18 years old anymore and when you are younger there is a bit of invincibility you have.


LIke you just said, the only good thing i can see about the army is that they pay for your studies so for people who are poor or who have no others options, i can understand where joining the army is the way to go. BUt it is pretty sad and, atm, most of them will probably never have the time to study because they will go died somewhere in the middle east.

Army can play a positive role in a nation when it serve to REALLY protect oneself from the invaders or assure some sort of security, protect the land. Example, here in CANADA, we need our soldiers up there , in the Arctic , to protect our land where the North west passage is not over there, afghanistan, to help clean or continue the mess of the fucking USA.

So army CAN be good if it is use wisely and for good reason, not a sighting we see nowadays. Mostly the military serve the interest of...you can finish this sentence , i said it enought.

[Calimero jr.]

Army here is Switzerland is useful, it gives us three more weeks of paid holidays per year, all the while getting drunk like hell every night and playing around with dangerous weapons (y):D

[Loppfessor]

Army here is Switzerland is useful, it gives us three more weeks of paid holidays per year, all the while getting drunk like hell every night and playing around with dangerous weapons (y):D

Plus they make those sweet ass, not to mention useful knives!

[Calimero jr.]

Funny enough, the one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Couteau_suisse.jpg/100px-Couteau_suisse.jpg) they give you in the army is very basic...1 knife, can-opener, screwdriver, and that tool-I-don't-know-how-you-call-it-in-english, that's all :(

[Loppfessor]

Drag, you should buy a Gerber on line

[ericg]

pre script: you most likely are on point and know ... but just to affirm.

www.objector.org
you're in the canadian army?
what's your mos?
stick your ground and what you believe in, but don't slack on routine...
little intestinal fortitude is what you signed up for, right? get some.
get informed on the techinicalities ... see if you can switch mos's or unit if there's one too many meatheads in your current instead of gettng out, of which you'll regret not doing everything you could - and do it strong where you know/ believe it or they'll see you coming a mile away. you gotta be prepared to drop the standard on them - and maintain all the way. i got mine on outmoding stupid fucks every step, just being an ominous reminder of what's really what. if it's gonna come down to life and death... i also had alot to overcome initially, like any 'true blue brother'. just remember to keep your beastie boys on hand... whatever you like. time to get real close with yourself. chanoble. don't go to iraq unless your a medic or something of that nature. be specific about everything/ know yourself and what you want and why and you'll be happier in the long run. hooah?!!! i know shit is a hassle and a half. but life's too great for stupid shit - max the shit, stay on you level, and learn 'em, just 'cause.

don't cheat yourself.

all the best,
ericg

[ericg]

in fact, don't go to iraq period. if you get out, fine, more power to ya - join the peace corps ... or go to school. life ain't easy, and these days next to impossible - i hope you're able to find a better way!

[Nivvie]

There's some UK info on getting out here.

http://local.google.com/answers/threadview?id=505685

I strongly suggest avoiding anything that gets you sent to military prison. From what my dad has told me about his stint it's a million times worse than normal prisons.

[Yetra Flam]

If you're a chick in the Australian armed forces you can get free boob jobs. "Psychological reasons." "In the interest of national security."

[ericlee]

Eric R u in the marines...? I didnt read your 6000+ other posts. The 2 services I have been warned about are Marines then Army. Continue the banter of the mindless drones.... I am not into it, because I can. I joined the Storm Trooper Army on the Hoth Base. We should defeat the Rebels in no time, and seige their Oil! High five.

I was army. So you say I'm a mindless drone? You obviously have no clue as to who I am then. You are a mindless drone for listening to all the bullshit of other people.

The army and marines do other things besides the brutal killings of people like you all think. Oh man, it's a waste of freakin breath talking to nimrods like yourself and fucktard girl.

[sjp]

develop colorblindness

actually there are certain jobs you can still do in the army or marines with colorblindness sadly i am colorblind and the job i was gonna join the marines for i couldn't do cause of that but they were willing to put me in as a machine gunner cause that didn't matter since i'm colorblind

[ericlee]

actually there are certain jobs you can still do in the army or marines with colorblindness sadly i am colorblind and the job i was gonna join the marines for i couldn't do cause of that but they were willing to put me in as a machine gunner cause that didn't matter since i'm colorblind

I think about it like this.... There were young boys, ages 14 and up back in the late 30's to early 1940's that did all kinds of crazy shit just to join the service for "their country".

WWII man. People that were flat footed, people with asthma, sleepwalkers, chronic masturbators, people with a freakin lazy glass eye... They'd all manage to make it in the military back then and they all voluntered for it!! I'd hate to say but, I think WWII was the worse damn war that we've ever seen but yet these young kids and people with all of the physical and mental conditions that were a big red flag of non compliance to military standards had some damn courage. If you're willing enough to go through all of the hassle, knowing damn well that your chances of getting excepted are slim to none.... You've earned the right to be a soldier or a marine, sailor... Blah.

It's not a bad thing at all. Look at ICE-T man. Ehh, I haven't heard his new stuff but, ICEtothefuckinT is a former Army Ranger. Of all the musicians, I'd say I respect him the most. Who? Shaggy? and that dude is a former Marine, LOL....GEIGH!!

Let me ask ya'll a big question though. I've been around here for three years now. Been here while in the dust bowl. Did I often talk about "killing" people like a mindless drone? NO. I'd rather not talk about it. I'd rather talk about the hands of the LOCALS that I've shaken. The sheesha I've smoked while on the gulf... The great food I've eatin.. C'mon, break this damn G.I. Phobia that you've all acquired. You give us a bad name.

[russhie]

^ Yes. An old family friend was in the army, and he was sent to East Timor and Indonesia when there was unrest there. He has nothing but good things to say about it - he was really committed to it, enjoyed the physical side of it, the structure and comraderie.

Before he joined, he would babysit us, and he was a regular guy. Great sense of humour and alot of fun. Wasn't a psychopath in the making. I've spoken to him recently about his time in the army and for him the travel, education and experiences he gained were worth so much. He's seen alot of the world and he couldn't have done it had he not been in the army.

He is no longer part of the army because while on leave in Vietnam the motorbike he was riding was hit by a truck, and the injuries he sustained meant he couldn't continue physically.

For some people, serving in the armed forces is the best thing for them. It has nothing to do with mindlessly slaughtering others, bloodlust or whatever. It's about bettering yourself, doing something productive, serving one's country, etc. I would say that for all the things he has seen and done, this guy is one of the most well-balanced and positive people I know.

[BangkokB]

chronic masturbators

And for that reason and that reason alone I was kept out of the service.

So keep your chin up Soldier at least you don't have to deal with the day to day pressures of trying to rub one out while you're in the trenches

[ericlee]

And for that reason and that reason alone I was kept out of the service.

So keep your chin up Soldier at least you don't have to deal with the day to day pressures of trying to rub one out while you're in the trenches

hahaha. Man, I've rubbed one off in the strangest of places. You pretty much have to man. I can't imagine the stress build up that I'd have while being there if I didn't. It's definitely a pressure release valve.

Jimi Hendrix got kicked outta the army cause he was caught masturbating a few times. He was even in the 82nd airborne and look at what he's created. Man, listen to his stuff in the headphones. He'll be singing at you in one ear and playing guitar in the other. He's got (had) the stuff mastered.

[BangkokB]

He'll be singing at you in one ear and playing guitar in the other. He's got (had) the stuff mastered.
Now that's multitasking at it's highest level. If you can sing, play guitar and rub one out at the same time- You have then become to performance art what Houdini was to magic

[ericlee]

Now that's multitasking at it's highest level. If you can sing, play guitar and rub one out at the same time- You have then become to performance art what Houdini was to magic

Right on man, and his obsession to rub one off whilst playing guitar took over his military career. He wasn't cut out for it. Not everyone is but, if they're not, they usually excell in the realms of what is more powerfull than being a soldier. Well, Jimi was a soldier in the music world though. It was his profession, his drive and his reason to get out of bed every morning..

And I can strongly assume that his chronic mastubation wasn't from his own hands. It was most likely done by the hands of some very beautiful ladies...errrrmm eh.

[BangkokB]

Plus that's where he met Billy Cox

Who do you prefer: The Band of Gypsies or the Jimi Hendrix Experience?

My $ is on The Band of Gypsies. If they'd stayed together then soul music would have been on a much higher plane that it ever reached

[ericlee]

Oh band of gypsies man. That drummer was brought to this earth for Hendrix's riffs. Man, they combined their talents so tightly. FO SHO.

[Helvete]

To the people who think I am in the Canadian army, no, I was just out in Canada for a few months on a training exercise.

Well, I'm getting on okay now, I got to know a load of the guys better out in Canada and most of the guys I went through training with are at the unit now. It just took a bit of time for me to settle in. I've had some time off and it's really not that bad. I think I was just whinging because I was on exercise and I'd not really had a day off in 2 months. I won't be getting many days off in Iraq either.

But thanks for the words, guys. It's best not that I do anything stupid to get kicked out, as this would give me many problems in the future.

[Lyman Zerga]

2 months? hardcore

glad things dont look as dark anymore RACIST!

[Tompz]

Screw the army. Boggles the mind why anyone would join by free will.

Have fun in Iraq.

[sjp]

I think about it like this.... There were young boys, ages 14 and up back in the late 30's to early 1940's that did all kinds of crazy shit just to join the service for "their country".

WWII man. People that were flat footed, people with asthma, sleepwalkers, chronic masturbators, people with a freakin lazy glass eye... They'd all manage to make it in the military back then and they all voluntered for it!! I'd hate to say but, I think WWII was the worse damn war that we've ever seen but yet these young kids and people with all of the physical and mental conditions that were a big red flag of non compliance to military standards had some damn courage. If you're willing enough to go through all of the hassle, knowing damn well that your chances of getting excepted are slim to none.... You've earned the right to be a soldier or a marine, sailor... Blah.

It's not a bad thing at all. Look at ICE-T man. Ehh, I haven't heard his new stuff but, ICEtothefuckinT is a former Army Ranger. Of all the musicians, I'd say I respect him the most. Who? Shaggy? and that dude is a former Marine, LOL....GEIGH!!

Let me ask ya'll a big question though. I've been around here for three years now. Been here while in the dust bowl. Did I often talk about "killing" people like a mindless drone? NO. I'd rather not talk about it. I'd rather talk about the hands of the LOCALS that I've shaken. The sheesha I've smoked while on the gulf... The great food I've eatin.. C'mon, break this damn G.I. Phobia that you've all acquired. You give us a bad name.



by the way i'm still going to bootcamp next year not for machine gunner though assault infantry they found that one for me to

[ericlee]

by the way i'm still going to bootcamp next year not for machine gunner though assault infantry they found that one for me to

Eh, really think about being in infantry man. Of course it's what pops into everyone's mind when they join but think about it cause the only kinds of jobs that you're qualified for afterwards are either law enforcement or security and they're not the best jobs in the world.

[Schmeltz]

ericlee wins the Poster Who Actually Knows What He's Talking About award for 2007. Take a page from the man's book, all.