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TurdBerglar
09-20-2007, 10:43 AM
JENA, La. - Thousands of chanting demonstrators filled the streets of this little Louisiana town Thursday in support of six black teenagers initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.

The crowd broke into chants of “Free the Jena Six” as the Rev. Al Sharpton arrived at the local courthouse with family members of the jailed teens.

Martin Luther King III, son of the slain civil rights leader, said the scene was reminiscent of earlier civil rights struggles. He said punishment of some sort may be in order for the six defendants, but “the justice system isn’t applied the same to all crimes and all people.”

The six teens were charged shortly after the local prosecutor declined to charge three white teens who hung nooses in a tree on their high school grounds. Five of the black teens were initially charged with attempted murder, but that charge was reduced to battery for all but one, who has yet to be arraigned; the sixth was charged as a juvenile.

“This is the most blatant example of disparity in the justice system that we’ve seen,” Sharpton told CBS’s “The Early Show” before arriving in Jena. “You can’t have two standards of justice.”

“We didn’t bring race into it,” he said. “Those that hung the nooses brought the race into it.”

Sharpton, who helped organized the rally, said this could be the beginning of the 21st century’s civil rights movement, one that would challenge disparities in the justice system.

‘It is about finding justice’
The district attorney who is prosecuting the teens, Reed Walters, denied on Wednesday that racism was involved in the charges.

He said he didn’t charge the white students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged. In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record.

“It is not and never has been about race,” Walters said. “It is about finding justice for an innocent victim and holding people accountable for their actions.”

The beating victim, Justin Barker, was knocked unconscious, his face badly swollen and bloodied, though he was able to attend a school function later that night.

Bell, 16 at the time of the attack, is the only one of the “Jena Six” to be tried so far. He was convicted on an aggravated second-degree battery count that could have sent him to prison for 15 years, but the conviction was overturned last week when a state appeals court said he should not have been tried as an adult.

Thursday’s protest had been planned to coincide with Bell’s sentencing, but organizers decided to press ahead even after the conviction was thrown out. Bell remains jailed while prosecutors prepare an appeal. He has been unable to meet the $90,000 bond.

“We all have family members about the age of these guys. We said it could have been one of them. We wanted to try to do something,” said Angela Merrick, 36, who drove with three friends from Atlanta to protest the treatment of the teens.


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‘We’re not taking it any more’


The Rev. Jesse Jackson spoke to a crowd Thursday morning. Dennis Courtland Hayes, interim president and CEO of the NAACP, compared the outcry over the Jena arrests to the controversy that followed racial remarks by radio personality Don Imus.

“People are saying, ‘That’s enough, and we’re not taking it any more,”’ Hayes said.

The rally was heavily promoted on black Web sites, blogs, radio and publications. State police declined to give crowd estimates, but participants at the park and the courthouse appeared to number in the thousands.

Sharpton admonished the demonstrators to remain peaceful, and there were no reports of trouble as of midmorning. White residents in the predominantly white town of 3,000 have largely been reluctant to comment, saying privately that the town was being unfairly portrayed as racist.

A group of about a dozen white residents and black demonstrators engaged in an animated but not angry exchange during the march. Whites asked blacks if they were aware of Bell’s criminal record, blacks replying that Jena High School administrators had mishandled the incidents at the school.

‘Not even a negative word’
The demonstrators included large numbers of civil rights movement veterans and college students from across the region who weren’t alive in the ‘60s.

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Protesters in La. town
Sept. 20: NBC's Martin Savidge reports on a protests stemming from racial attacks at the high school in small-town Jena, La.
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Tina Cheatham missed the civil rights marches at Selma, Montgomery and Little Rock, but she had no intention of missing another brush with history. The 24-year-old Georgia Southern University graduate drove all night to reach tiny Jena in central Louisiana.

“It was a good chance to be part of something historic since I wasn’t around for the civil rights movement. This is kind of the 21st century version of it,” she said.

Red Cross officials manned first aid stations near the local courthouse and had water and snacks available. Portable toilets and flashing street signs to aid in traffic direction were in place. At the courthouse, troopers chatted amiably with each other and with demonstrators who began showing up well before dawn.

Sharpton said Bell, whom he spoke with Wednesday, was heartened by the show of support.

“He doesn’t want anything done that would disparage his name—no violence, not even a negative word,” Sharpton said.



now i do beleive that hanging nooses as a means for intimidation is grounds for a beat down especially considering the two races invovled. BUT beating the shit out of someone is far worse than a visual intimidation. i feel both parties should be punished. i also feel the assualt is far worse than intimidation. so the people involved in the assault should get tougher punishment.

afronaut
09-20-2007, 10:56 AM
It's not as simple as that, there were beatings on both sides after the whole noose incident. The black kids were beat, white kids were beat back. White kid pulls a gun on black kid, another black kid takes gun away from said white kid, black kid gets charged with theft of gun. Is that fair? The kid did not suffer any serious injuries, and any charge of "attempted murder" is ludicrous. What about pulling a gun on someone? Could that not possibly be attempted murder? What about the black kids who were beat down during the ordeal following the noose incident?

"Jena High School student Justin Barker, age 17, was assaulted by other Jena High students. According to reports, earlier that day Barker, a white student, bragged about how one of his alleged attackers, Robert Bailey, Jr., had been beaten up by a white man the Friday before.[3] Barker was then knocked to the ground after being hit in the back of his head, and a group of students followed suit by repeatedly kicking him.[14] Barker, who was left unconscious after the attack, was examined by a doctor at the local hospital. After two hours of treatment and observation for a concussion and an eye that had swollen shut, he was released in time to attend the school's Ring ceremony that evening..."

It's not a case of "nooses were hung on tree, white kid gets the shit beat out of him." The initial tree incident happened months before this beating took place.

TurdBerglar
09-20-2007, 10:59 AM
well. that's pretty fucked up then

jabumbo
09-20-2007, 11:00 AM
is there even a formal charge that could be brought against them?


i think these kids pretty much waived at their chance to charge them with something when they decided to beat them instead.


edit: well shit then

TurdBerglar
09-20-2007, 11:02 AM
what i got out of the article i posted was that the black kids just beat the shit out of the white kids because the white kids were hanging nooses. apparentlly there's much more to it than just that.

afronaut
09-20-2007, 11:04 AM
well. that's pretty fucked up then

Yeah. While I certainly consider myself sensitive to racial issues, I'm not one to blame everything unfortunate that may happen to a black person on racism. This, however, is one of those incidents that i agree with completely that it is completely and utterly unfair and racist.

hpdrifter
09-20-2007, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I read an article on this a week or two ago that discussed more of the back story.

I guess the white kids wouldn't let the black kids eat lunch in a certain part of the yard and they went to the principal and he wouldn't help them. So they sat there for lunch one day and the next day there were nooses hanging there.

It built up from there with fights and threats on both sides.

I happen to think that hanging the nooses can and should be considered a threat. Nooses are a symbol of torture and murder and of a time when black people had no rights and hangings were cause for celebration and picnic.

afronaut
09-20-2007, 11:16 AM
there was an effort by black students to address the school board about the noose incident, the "white tree", and the ongoing racial issues within the school, but they were refused because the school board was under the opinion that "the noose issue" had been adequately resolved.

To clarify, the "noose issue" had been resolved by the board of education overturning the punishment for the kids who were responsible for the noose issue, for which they ultimately got three days of in school suspension, and simply playing off the whole incident as an innocent school prank, being either ignorant purposely turning a blind eye to the obvious greater racial issues plaguing the school.


When you view the whole story, the noose issue was sort of a cataclysm of events, but ultimately insignificant compared to all the other racial strife in the school.

both black and white students are definitely at fault here, and the assault did get out of hand. but the events were definitely started by racism against blacks in the school, and the fact that they're trying to get these kids for attempted murder and they way they're being treated is just ridiculous.


a lot of my information is coming from wikipedia however, so there could possibly be bias in what im reading. it seems like the story is being watched and moderated fairly well though, so i trust it.

hpdrifter
09-20-2007, 11:20 AM
Yeah, the noose hangers had originally been expelled but that was overturned for a three day suspension. :rolleyes:

It seems pretty obvious, wherever you get your news, that the black students are being treated way more harshly than the white students.

Loppfessor
09-20-2007, 12:07 PM
http://beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=83185

FYI

TurdBerglar
09-20-2007, 12:08 PM
well you've learned your lesson for posting in the politcal forum!

hpdrifter
09-20-2007, 12:13 PM
I land there every now and again by accident trying to get to Other Music.

I always get out as fast as I can.

Loppfessor
09-20-2007, 12:14 PM
well you've learned your lesson for posting in the politcal forum!

I certainly did....it smells funny in there anyway

Jitters
09-20-2007, 02:43 PM
I just heard about this for the first time today.

Both sides are at fault for what they did but the way the black students are being treated legally over all this is just ridiculous.

TurdBerglar
09-23-2007, 08:57 AM
NEW ORLEANS - The FBI is reviewing a white supremacist Web site that purports to list the addresses of five of the six black teenagers accused of beating a white student in Jena and "essentially called for their lynching," an agency spokeswoman said Saturday.

Sheila Thorne, an agent in the FBI's New Orleans office, said authorities were reviewing whether the site breaks any federal laws. She said the FBI had "gathered intelligence on the matter," but declined to further explain how the agency got involved.

CNN first reported Friday about the Web site, which features a swastika, frequent use of racial slurs, a mailing address in Roanoke, Va., and phone numbers purportedly for some of the teens' families "in case anyone wants to deliver justice." That page is dated Thursday.

The Rev. Al Sharpton said in a statement Saturday that some of the families have received "almost around the clock calls of threats and harassment," and called on Gov. Kathleen Blanco to intervene.

A Blanco spokeswoman said the governor had asked law enforcement _ primarily state police _ to investigate.

"These people need more than an investigation. They need protection," the Rev. Jesse Jackson said. He said his organization would be in touch with President Bush's nominee for attorney general, Michael Mukasey.

"This is a test for the disposition of the Department of Justice to serve as an intervenor and a deterrent" to hate crimes and discrimination, Jackson said. He said federal marshals should protect the families.

Carolas Purvis, whose number was among three listed on the Web site, said she did not feel in danger. Purvis is the aunt of Bryant Purvis, who has yet to be arraigned. She said she has received a number of calls, some from people who say nothing, others to let her know that her number had been put on the site. One, Friday night, used the N-word to her young son, she said.

A dispatcher for the LaSalle Parish Sheriff's Department said no one in the office Saturday could say whether any threats had been reported.

Of the two other numbers listed as "active" on the Web site, one was not answered Saturday; the other yielded a constant busy signal.

On Thursday, thousands of demonstrators marched in a civil rights demonstration in support of the so-called Jena 6. The six black teens were arrested after a December attack on a white student — the culmination of fights between blacks and whites.

Of the six teens arrested, five initially were charged with attempted second-degree murder; charges for four have been reduced as they were arraigned. Charges against the sixth teen, booked as a juvenile, are sealed.

Mychal Bell is the only one to have been tried so far. A state appeals court recently threw out his conviction for aggravated second-degree battery, saying he couldn't be tried as an adult. He remained in jail pending an appeal.

William A. "Bill" White, listed as the Web site's editor and commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, did not immediately answer an e-mail to his address. Calls to one of the two William Whites listed in Roanoke were not answered; the other said he was not involved with the site.

Blanco said Saturday that harassing families involved in the case "cannot and will not be tolerated."

"Public attacks on private citizens done out of ignorance and hatred is appalling, and anyone who stoops to such unspeakable persecution will be investigated and subject to the full penalty of law," she said in a statement.


what the fuck is wrong with the south? we should have just let them secede! it's embarrassing.

Jitters
09-23-2007, 10:59 AM
what the fuck is wrong with the south? we should have just let them secede! it's embarrassing.

I dare you to live down here. It's veeeerrrrrryyyyy backwards.

TurdBerglar
09-23-2007, 04:09 PM
i've always wanted to live in north carolina actually. right on the beach.

Loppfessor
09-24-2007, 03:08 AM
This shit's gonna get waaaay outta hand. All because of stupid young racists (on both sides)

Yeti
09-24-2007, 06:38 AM
I remember being in 7th grade and my brother was a junior in High School. The High School had a talent show and some students had a southern rock band. Some imbeciles walked into the auditorium with a large confederate flag. The black students got very upset and walked out. Later in the day some black girls grabbed a white girl by the hair and dragged her down the hall. Fights were breaking out and they had to close the school.
I don't think the idiots carrying the flag were trying to spark a race riot but their actions caused quite a ruckus.

I keep reading about the deep south but unfortunately racism is all over the world. I have heard horrible remarks from the New England states to Jersey to Philly and on down to Florida. I was in Germany and heard people bashing anyone with dark skin. I remember hearing some nasty comments about the Turkish community.

Something about a southern twang in the accent causes people to lump everyone into the "racist backwoods" category.

The Jena 6 situation is terrible. It is a sad fact that race baiting is still practiced in 2007......not just Louisiana but all over the world.

Loppfessor
09-24-2007, 07:38 AM
^I dig what you're trying to say Yeti but take it from me 95% of the stereotypes you've heard about the South are true! I didn't believe it at first either until I saw it first hand....

Yeti
09-24-2007, 07:59 AM
Be careful with your comments I am biting my tongue with my tooth.

Loppfessor
09-24-2007, 08:56 AM
Be careful with your comments I am biting my tongue with my tooth.

Why? I respect your opinions on things. Let's discuss shall we. Perhaps you're misinterpreting what I'm saying or something. Or even if you're not speak your mind man

Yeti
09-24-2007, 08:58 AM
I was making a joke. I guess I did not make it clear that I had only 1 tooth.
I should have said---Be careful with your comments I am biting my tongue with my 1 tooth.


What is 40 feet long and has 4 teeth?
The cotton candy line at the West Va State Fair.

Loppfessor
09-24-2007, 09:00 AM
LOL oh sorry my bad dude....long ass day