Blow it wide open..

[Carlos]

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/29/83331/268

I doubt very much whether any of the main stream outlets will touch this - even though it would be the most shocking scoop of the century so far.

She has kept quiet until now regarding all manner of things, including very damaging, and treasonous information regarding 911.

The dam is starting to break - We have now have Martin joining his son Charlie openly stating the blatent impossibility that WTC7 came down as it did: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_sheen_questions.htm (Gatekeepers this is a link to prisonplanet - obviously not a legitimate source - so there's no need for you to bother clickin it ;) )

We have an eminent architect that builds massive steel framed structure for a living proving beyond rational doubt that the towers came down as a result of control demolition: (http://blip.tv/file/306082/)

if this wasn't enough, and you are serious about this subject, i cannot recomment highly enough Dr David Ray Griffin's latest book: Debunking 911 Debunking. He systematically destroys the un-scientific and ludricous conspiracy theory that is the Bush/Cheney/Hamilton/Lee conclusion.

As well as showing popular mechanics to be the outright lyers and cheats they clearly are under scrutiny... lol even so far as to try and hide that Benjamin Chertoff who wrote the orriginal 911 debunking article is the cousin of Michael Chertoff: the homeland security cheif!! That is of no major consequence - other than showing they have no qualms lying in public, what is, is their complete lack of scientific process, and in fact blatent manipulation and falsification of the truth.. complete with wicker-man size straw man arguments.

http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X

He truly blows all the debunkers out of the water: and if you think that is bull, go read it yourself, unless you enjoy being a lazy mo fo. If you couldn't give a shit about 911, then hey go read the next thread.. go back to bed america your government is in control - here watch this.. blah blah.. lol

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[yeahwho]

The LATimes (http://www.latimes.com/)
The Boston Herald (http://www.bostonherald.com/)
The NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/)
Slate (http://slate.com/)
Michael Moore.com
(http://www.michaelmoore.com/)

Blow it wide open? All of the above have provided some of the most comprehensive in depth analysis of 9/11 coverage. Not one of them recognize this story, I wish you were correct and the headlines screamed out some sort of definitive answer to unanswered WTC 7 questions.

Sibel Edmonds (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Sibel+Edmonds&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn)garners 7 hits on google news.

[yeahwho]

Carlos, not to be an ass or anything, but why is it you think you have some sort of insight into "Blowing it Wide Open" and none of the thousands starving journalists worldwide do? Is everyone else on the take? I have read countless theories and at least a thousand posts have dealt with theory on this sight. It's boring. Go ahead and keep up the ridiculous condescending tone with your posts. I find you to be disingenuous at best and completely false at worst.

Yet many things can be addressed which are really happening. I realize that your from England, yet most of what your posting on this sight is theory. We have some real issues that need to be addressed in the USA. Many of them have ab-so-fuck-lutely nothing to do with conspiracy theories.

I know you may find that hard to believe. But stark raving reality is alive and many of us are trying to work within those confines. As a citizen and a patriot your diversion tactics are mind numbing.

Martin Sheen? The first 200 hits on Martin Sheen don't mention his interest in WTC7 on google (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Martin+Sheen&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=w&as_mind=23&as_minm=10&as_maxd=30&as_maxm=10) news.

Do you know why? I'll tell you why, because any journalist worth his salt could give a shit what Martin Sheen thinks about WTC7.

[Carlos]

Carlos, not to be an ass or anything, but why is it you think you have some sort of insight into "Blowing it Wide Open" and none of the thousands starving journalists worldwide do?

your not being an ass, perfectly reasonable question.. however you are factually incorrect: there have been numerous articles on 911 in the press. Just not in the US. But i suggest you are rather naive to think that any mainstream media outlet would touch 911 in balanced and rational way without the normal hysteria, and religous-like zeal for being blasphemous enough to question the official conspiracy theory.

But the Guardian, britains most respected newspapers has (http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/peter_tatchell/2007/09/911_the_big_coverup.html), more than once (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1868445,00.html)
The Daily Mail ran a very progressive piece on the movement (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=435265&in_page_id=1811&ct=5)

Not that it has any importance whether the mainstream media cover this or not except to expose different amounts of people to the info. What is of importace is the physical evidence and if it stands up to the narrative under proper scientific analysis. Which the official narrative or conspiracy theory does not in any sense of the word scientific.

Please Yeahwho, and everyone else who thinks they 'know it all already' watch this video of Richard Gage (http://blip.tv/file/306082/), a highly experienced engineer who has designed and overseen the construction of many large steel framed buildings do a presentation, no fancy music, or video effects 'a la loose change'. Just pure science and facts from a man who just deals with these things. And in no stretch if the imagination can be labelled as being an irrational person.

Please give it a chance, don't watch 5 mins and think you've heard it all before: think about who he is, and what his motives could be apart from to try and educate others.

I am more than happy to discuss any of the details raised in the presentation, however I will not try justify why you should use your own mind to evaluate it.

[NoFenders]

Sorry, but I'm never happy when talking about 9/11. (n)

This whole conspiracy theory is crap. To anyone who lives in the US and buys into this junk, move already.


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[ms.peachy]

Dude, the Daily Mail? Are you serious?

[Carlos]

:) Peachy.. lol yeah the mail is ot exactly safe reading... and i was in no way saying anyone shoud take the mail article as evidence, just answering yeahwho when he was saying no journo's has covered it.. but it is of very little importance.

However i truly recommend the Richard gage presentation (link in previous post) for a proper example of the problems with the official conspiracy theory regarding the tower's collapse: he is an experienced architect and it is pure science, and no flim flam.
Or this video (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7160790539111319889&q=zeitgeist&total=1828&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7) which covers the whole subject very well.

all am asking is that people watch these and make up their own minds, before pre-judging them.

[NoFenders]

I have a theory. We all believe the lies we really want to.


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