FLU SHOT OR NOT?

[MC Moot]

Anyone had a flu vaccination before?......I’ve always passed…..the nurses are here setting up a clinic as we speak…I have mixed opinion….partially I think we’re fuck’n with ma nature a wee bit in that this vaccination will supposedly protect me from last years strain of flu bug…but there are 100’s of different strains out there…the nurse just told me so….and she 17% of people who get the inoculation will develop cold/flu symptoms within 7 days…..I think it’s wise for elderly/immune deficient folks but I don’t know that it’s appropriate for strong/healthy people…I work in a wicked environment for germ transfer though….I don’t know..…the nurse swears by it….have you had it?....results?....effects?......take the shot or not?

[abcdefz]

I've never bothered, though some friends who are seniors get them every year.

[Loppfessor]

I hafta get one every year and I"ve never had a problem...I think the pros outweigh the cons

[ms.peachy]

I don't think it is essential for a young, healthy adult without children. I don't think it would do any real harm, though.

If you're the type of person who can get a cold and then recover within a few days, don't bother. If however you're the type who has a tendency to go from a minor cold to a major bronchial infection quickly, it might be worthwhile.

I had one last winter for the first time ever, not so much to protect myself but to protect my daughter - with her being so young and still breastfeeding etc, I didn't want to risk getting the flu and passing it to her. But if you are not around young children or elderly people much, I don't know as it's worth it.

[MC Moot]

Yeah,I am around infants and kids up to and including 5 yr olds....but they are the transmitters....dirty,germy little munchkins....lacking proper hand washing technique and neglecting to cover their mouths while they cough....they really need to grow up.....:D

[ms.peachy]

Yeah,I am around infants and kids up to and including 5 yr olds....but they are the transmitters....dirty,germy little munchkins....lacking proper hand washing technique and neglecting to cover their mouths while they cough....they really need to grow up.....:D

Ha, ha, yeah I know!

In that case you might want to go ahead and get it though. As I recall last year when I had it I may have had a very minor reaction - basically the next day I felt a bit flushed and tired, but that also could have been just, you know, my life. Is it free, or nearly so? If so, you may as well get it.

[TurdBerglar]

i've never gotten a vaccine and i've never gotten the flu


they should make a vaccine out of my blood

[MC Moot]

Ha, ha, yeah I know!

In that case you might want to go ahead and get it though. As I recall last year when I had it I may have had a very minor reaction - basically the next day I felt a bit flushed and tired, but that also could have been just, you know, my life. Is it free, or nearly so? If so, you may as well get it.

Oh yeah it's free...seems our staff is 50% yes 50% no....so I'm gonna bow to your maternal wisdom and go see the nurse....she has a cartoon playing so you don't have to look at the needle....;)

[jabumbo]

i don't see a harm in getting one, especially if its free.


i've gotten one the past two years by suggestion of the doctor now with no problematic effects

[TurdBerglar]

i don't really like the whole idea of relying on useless vaccines to remain healthy. it just weakens your bodies natural defenses. i don't see why a healthy adult needs to get a flu shot.

[ericlee]

I'm passing on it this year. Everytime I get one I end up getting a fever and have to stay in bed for three days with a feeling of needles in my chest. I hardly get sick and I'm not up for making myself sick so that I won't get sick.

[HEIRESS]

you are a fucking dipshit if you get it and you arent a child under 2, dont have childen who are under 2, arent around alot of children who are infants, if you arent immunocompromised and arent elderly

end of discussion.

[ms.peachy]

it just weakens your bodies natural defenses.

It doesn't, actually. You're right that it may be "useless" in the sense that, if you are a healthy adult you're perfectly capable of fighting the flu, even if it does lay you out for a few days. But it doesn't compromise these 'natural defenses' you speak of. (Vaccines being, in effect, stimulants of the body's own defense system, as they are.)

[TurdBerglar]

yeah but then all the fucking viruses and shit become immune to the vaccine! super viruses are just being produced!

[MC Moot]

I feel different...like something's changed inside me.....at a cellular level...perhaps molecular....blood cells boiling....mutating.....then again I read alot of comic books.....:D

[fucktopgirl]

NOT

[ms.peachy]

yeah but then all the fucking viruses and shit become immune to the vaccine! super viruses are just being produced!

Viruses don't mutate in response to vaccination; they mutate in response to outbreak.

[Schmeltz]

Viruses and bacteria become more resistant to treatment when people don't properly follow their treatment regimens. Not because of vaccination.

Also I'm not getting one because I don't need one, I'm young and healthy.

[Bob]

you are a fucking dipshit if you get it and you arent a child under 2, dont have childen who are under 2, arent around alot of children who are infants, if you arent immunocompromised and arent elderly

end of discussion.

lol that actually sounds more like the beginning of a discussion, but ok

also, i don't have it. i'm not really scared of the flu. polio, that i'm scared of, but i can take the flu.

also, flu shot or not sounds like a dating website

[hitmonlee]

no because it motherfucking hurts. my arm was dead for a week or so and i got a little bit sick. never had one again and have only had one flu in 5 yrs.

[Kid Presentable]

Among the many things our sissy society is no longer capable of overcoming, do we really want to add the flu? Seems scary that something like that needs vaccination, especially in adults. I don't support it at all.

[kleptomaniac]

i've gotten the flu shot for the past few years and nothing ever happens to me. and it doesn't hurt or anything, my arm just gets a little sore, that's all. i already got mine a few weeks ago. my mom makes us all get one. *shrugs*

right now it's about this (http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news849822.html) :S

[russhie]

My boyfriend gets one each year at work, and he's only had the flu once during that time.

This year, I had a cold/flu three times in one and a half months. I've never had the flu vaccine, I eat better, get more rest, do more physical activity and am generally more careful about my lifestyle than my boyfriend.

I felt jipped.

[jackrock]

Moot, I think you should be more worried about getting a Hepatitis vac from that big mac. :(.

[HEIRESS]

average healthy adults getting the flu shot is another example of the never ending propagation of our self serving society

[The Notorious LOL]

I just take hippie pills at flu season.

[Loppfessor]

no because it motherfucking hurts. my arm was dead for a week or so and i got a little bit sick. never had one again and have only had one flu in 5 yrs.

You think that hurts, try getting anthrax, typhoid, and small pox all at once!

[Bob]

and i bet the vaccinations sting, too!

[mikizee]

How it works here is the vaccine people work out what the 3 most common strains of flu for this year is, then create a vaccine for those. so every year you get a vaccine, you are immunised for 3 strains. and they last for life, so after 10 years you are immune to 30 different strains of flu.

How on earth is that a bad thing

[adam_f]

Originally posted by mikizee
How it works here is the vaccine people work out what the 3 most common strains of flu for this year is, then create a vaccine for those. so every year you get a vaccine, you are immunised for 3 strains. and they last for life, so after 10 years you are immune to 30 different strains of flu.

How on earth is that a bad thing

Because it won't prevent syphilis. That's why.

[MC Moot]

So far I feel fine.....although this morning I am fiercely fuck'n grumpy...and I have no reason nor cause....

[adam_f]

Are you menstruating?

[MC Moot]

Are you menstruating?

good freakin point,man....

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=79558&highlight=synchronized

[HEIRESS]

How it works here is the vaccine people work out what the 3 most common strains of flu for this year is, then create a vaccine for those. so every year you get a vaccine, you are immunised for 3 strains. and they last for life, so after 10 years you are immune to 30 different strains of flu.

How on earth is that a bad thing

you wanna know why?
the more people who unncessarily get the flu vaccine the greater the number of times the current flu strains come in contact with that vaccine. this increases the chance that one of those flu strains, that these vaccines supposedly fight, will somehow mutate and become resistant to that vaccine.
then this virus will start getting passed around until its more prevalent and then perhaps sometime in the future it will be included in the next round of flu vaccinations combinations
UNTIL THEN you could be the jerk-wad adult who was all "boo hoo hoo I dont want to be sick-poo for a week" and gets the flu vaccine every year like a pussy. SO when you contract the flu but it somehow mutates within your body and you then inadvertantly pass on your now resistant flu strain to some poor baby or elderly adult whose flu vaccine is now fucking useless. So they contract the flu, which they are too immunocompromised to fight and then they die.

does that sound like a bad thing to you?

[ms.peachy]

HEIRESS, with all due respect, I think you are misinformed about the nature of influenza virus. It does not mutate in response to vaccination. Influenza viruses mutate constantly, irrespective of vaccination. In other words, if nobody was vaccinated, or if everyone was vaccinated, influenza viruses would continue essentially the same trajectory and pattern of mutation.

The scenario you are describing is a more accurate reflection of bacterial infection, but not viral.

[russhie]

I have a new question.

Why does Heiress seem to have taken some random internet person's choice to have a flu shot so personally? Again, with all due respect...you sound like some conspiracy nut. Let the people have their vaccine if they want, christ.

[Loppfessor]

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