how come fat middle aged ladies are getting diagnosed with Fibromyalgia all the time?

[The Notorious LOL]

shits a made up disease.

[Bob]

fibromyalgia? more like fibromadeupgia get the fuck out of here

[Bob]

that's what i'd say if i was a doctor and someone came into my office all like "i think i have fibromyalgia"

[The Notorious LOL]

yeah Id be like "April Fools that disease is made up you fat bitch go eat McDonalds you fat bitch p.s. bitch"

[Bob]

"remember last week when i said you had hypertension? i was kidding you're just a fatass"

[HEIRESS]

you had to know someone would come up in here and say "thats what my mom has" and ruin your fun, but its true.

she has fibromyalgia compounded with Osteoarthritis.
she denied that she had it for a long time and blamed all her symptoms on just plain ole arthritis but it become much much more than that.

its life ruining. her conditions(s) started affecting her in her mid-thirties. and I just remember being a kid and nevering getting excited about plans with my mom because you never know day to day if she will even be able to get up and move around. the pain is horrible. doctors have tried for years to put her on retarded anti-inflammatory drugs and my mom refuses them cause she doesnt want to go through life all doped up. she normally just takes tylenol to deal with the pain, and if that doesnt cut it, well she just deals with it.

she stopped being able to have a steady job around that time. Before she did home support so she went to peoples home who had conditions or diseases that made them not fully functional or were too old to do their own housework/take care of someone else who lives there. but that became far far far too physical for her + she started missing too many shifts to make it feasible for her boss to keep her on.

after that she still needed to be doing something so she started volunteering at the sexual assault support centre in town. as a volunteer they didnt care if some days she didnt make it in because of her condition. plus alot of her volunteer hours she spend on the 24 hour help line. so she just got to take this special phone home that was a direct line and had to answer it whenever needed. that worked well for her because it wasnt physical.

so she did that for 8 years. and during that time realized that she'd make a good counsellor, so she got her diploma as a clinical counsellor via correspondance while I was in highschool. Once completing that course for awhile she got paid to come in once a week for 4 hours to do counselling. but even then there were times that she just did not feel well enough to come in during that scheduled time period, and they eventually stopped giving her the clients and kinda brushed her out the door because her boss was a huge bitch.

fibromyalgia is horrible because the weather affects you so much, especially pressure changes. you know all that crap you see on the weather channel with the big L and H on the map screen aint just bullshit. she wishes she could move to a true desert where the weather NEVER changes for long periods of time. we live in one of the only true semi-deserts in canada so she does ok here, but she thinks there must be somewhere else she would feel even better. i think really she would love to live in arizona. she is actually planning a trip down there in the early spring and Im probably going to go with her.

the days she isnt affected greatly my mom can do anything. she is a wonderful courageous person and I love her to bits. the only upside to her having this is during all her downtime in bed she reads a FUCK load of books and is as smart as a goddamn whip. I picked up the habit from her and I adore chatting books with her.

ps. my moms is one fit ole lady (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/HEIRESS/poopoo/momturntables.jpg)

[cosmo105]

there was once a really sweet customer at one of my old stores that i just loved talking to, she was so patient and funny and intelligent. she had fibromyalgia and it killed me to see her so stiff and in so much pain some days she could barely walk a step away from her cart. she was going through a rough divorce too and had a pretty high-functioning autistic kid to take care of but she always had a smile on her face, you know? i loved that lady.

chronic inflammatory diseases can go fuck themselves, seriously.

[Medellia]

doctors have tried for years to put her on retarded anti-inflammatory drugs and my mom refuses them cause she doesnt want to go through life all doped up. she normally just takes tylenol to deal with the pain, and if that doesnt cut it, well she just deals with it.
Um, you do realise Tylenol is an anti-inflammatory drug, right?

[HEIRESS]

naw, pretty sure its classified primarily as an analgesic.

she just forever wants to stay away from over the counter strength pain relievers etc for as long as she can.

[The Notorious LOL]

its probably the most vague blanket statement of disorders just kind of lumped into a "fibromyalgia" diagnosis.

[Randetica]

never heard of it before, must be some idiotic american thing

[Yetra Flam]

It's one of those things that they don't know anything about, but it doesn't mean it's a made up disease.

[Medellia]

naw, pretty sure its classified primarily as an analgesic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-inflammatory

Anti-inflammatory drugs make up one half of analgesics, remedying pain by reducing inflammation as opposed to opioids which affect the brain.
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), alleviate pain by counteracting the cyclooxygenase (COX) enzyme. On its own COX enzyme synthesizes prostaglandins, creating inflammation. In whole the NSAIDs prevent the prostaglandins from ever being synthesized, reducing or eliminating the pain.

Some common examples of NSAIDs are: ibuprofen, diclofenac and naproxen. The newer specific COX-inhibitors although probably sharing a similar mode of action are not classified together with the traditional NSAIDs.

In addition to medical drugs, many herbs have anti-inflammatory qualities, including hyssop, ginger, Turmeric, Arnica montana which contains helenalin, a sesquiterpene lactone, and willow bark, which contains salicylic acid, a substance related to the active ingredient in aspirin.

On the other hand, there are analgesics which are commonly associated with anti-inflammatory drugs but which have no anti-inflammatory effects. An example is paracetamol, called acetaminophen in the U.S. and sold under the brand name of Tylenol.

Some are concerned about the long term usage of NSAIDs as they cause gastric erosions which can become stomach ulcers and in extreme cases can cause severe haemorrhage resulting in death. The risk of death as a result of use of NSAIDs is 1 in 10,000 for young adults aged 16-45. The risk increases tenfold for those over 75. Other dangers of NSAIDs are exacerbating asthma and causing kidney damage.

she just forever wants to stay away from over the counter strength pain relievers etc for as long as she can.
Tylenol IS an over the counter medicine. "Over the counter" means you don't need a prescription to be it.

[HEIRESS]

oh sweet lord, sorry my lingo isnt up to par. I didnt put the "non" in front of over the counter


MY MOM DOESNT WANT TO BE TURNED INTO A PRESCRIPTION DOPE FIEND IN ORDER TO COPE WITH HER VERY PAINFUL CONDITION

how else would you like me to spell it out for you.

fucks sake. go have a drink of eggnog and fucking chill out.

if you wanna play the google game I can go fucking cut and paste a multitude of things to couter-act in some way everything anyone says on any subject. thats the fucking beauty of the internet.

"On the other hand, there are analgesics which are commonly associated with anti-inflammatory drugs but which have no anti-inflammatory effects. An example is paracetamol, called acetaminophen in the U.S. and sold under the brand name of Tylenol"

you quoted this which agrees with my prior statement. but then whats the point of finding something else I said just to nit pick and prove me wrong?

your retarded anality is really pissing me off right now because I had a bad interaction with my brothers girlfriend last night because she's being a bitch to my mom, so sorry if Im not throwing a fucking parade right now because you know more about tylenol than me.
which is actually funny because at some point during my science degree I totally made acetaminophen and I remember the title of the lab being "chemical production of common analgesics" so thats the only reason I knew its classification.

[befsquire]

^oh, can you make some hydrocodone for me then? the bulk of it is acetaminophen. it'd put me to sleep right now, which is exactly what i need.



i think the thing that sounds totally made up is restless leg syndrome.

[Medellia]

oh sweet lord, sorry my lingo isnt up to par. I didnt put the "non" in front of over the counter
Well, there you go then. Simple mistake No reason for the hissy fit.

MY MOM DOESNT WANT TO BE TURNED INTO A PRESCRIPTION DOPE FIEND IN ORDER TO COPE WITH HER VERY PAINFUL CONDITION

how else would you like me to spell it out for you.
Yeah, see, the whole "my mom has a very painful condition" thing isn't gonna work with me. My mom has lupus. And arthritis. And Sjogren's syndrome. And a shitload of other problems. And she takes several prescriptions to control it. And yes, she takes tylenol to help with some of the pain. Her doctor told her she should take it, because it is, you guessed it, an anti-inflammatory!

Do some people with addictive personalities have problems with medications? Of course, and your mother has every right to decide whether or not she wants to take certain medications. But it's ridiculous to say "she'll become a drug addict if she takes it!"
fucks sake. go have a drink of eggnog and fucking chill out.
I'm not the one having a hissy fit over a relatively benign post. The only thing I could think of that could really be considered arguementative is the emphasis on "is" when I said that tylenol is an otc medication, which you have already said was just a typo.
if you wanna play the google game I can go fucking cut and paste a multitude of things to couter-act in some way everything anyone says on any subject. thats the fucking beauty of the internet.
Go ahead then, google "anti-inflammatory; analgesic" or some similar phrase and copy and paste some shit. I only copy and pasted that so anyone reading this wouldn't have to scroll through to find the relevant part. And I posted the link to show where I got it from. Whooptie shit. No reason for the tantrum.
"On the other hand, there are analgesics which are commonly associated with anti-inflammatory drugs but which have no anti-inflammatory effects. An example is paracetamol, called acetaminophen in the U.S. and sold under the brand name of Tylenol"

you quoted this which agrees with my prior statement. but then whats the point of finding something else I said just to nit pick and prove me wrong?
The whole point of everything I quoted was that many angelsics (one half according to wiki) are in fact used to relieve inflammation.

Nevermind the fact that you yourself said that your mother uses it to relieve her inflammation.
your retarded anality is really pissing me off right now because I had a bad interaction with my brothers girlfriend last night because she's being a bitch to my mom, so sorry if Im not throwing a fucking parade right now because you know more about tylenol than me.
And again with the "my life sucks, so it's okay if I act like a bratty two year old" schtick. Well, if we're going to play THAT game, my grandfather is dying of cancer, I spent a week at my grandparents' house because my building had no power or heat due to a natural disaster that left almost the entire city in total darkness, etc. etc. I could go on, but you know, I find that very tacky. I try to be as civil as possible to people no matter how much I disagree with them, even if my life is total shit at the moment. It's part of being an adult. You should try it.
which is actually funny because at some point during my science degree I totally made acetaminophen and I remember the title of the lab being "chemical production of common analgesics" so thats the only reason I knew its classification.
Oooh, you sure pwned me there. I concede, I don't have a science degree and I've never made acetominophen. Therefore I must be a total moron that knows absolutely nothing about medicine. And a dope fiend as well right?

[Whatitis]

never heard of it before, must be some idiotic american thing

Such an idiotic comment.

[HEIRESS]

never said everyone's life doesnt suck

and I explained exactly why I was over-reacting, what more do you want. how is that not being an adult?
sorry my "hissy fit" wasnt as quote happy as yours and a therefore less of a credible reply.
do you contradict everything anyone says in real life too? I can see you not being much fun to hang out with then.

and I said she takes tylenol to deal with the pain. and we've both clearly proven that tylenol is not seen firstly as an potent anti-inflammatory agent, if at all. lets not beat a fucking dead horse. that too is annoying.

and you just played the same "my life sucks" shtick back at me. I dont care if you were using an overly detailed response in order to make my intial one seems more childish because in the end you are doing the exact same thing. there is no "acting like a 2 year old" business because everyone does that during their lives no matter what the age. fuck that adult bullshit, being human means showing the full spectrum of emotions, even if some of them would be considered childish, they are still lurching inside everyone and ready to bust out at any given moment.

"But it's ridiculous to say "she'll become a drug addict if she takes it!""

you are a moron. I was being in your face sarcastic and you fucking well know it.

":Oooh, you sure pwned me there. I concede, I don't have a science degree and I've never made acetominophen. Therefore I must be a total moron that knows absolutely nothing about medicine. And a dope fiend as well right?"

can you not read and comprehend? my initial statement was acutally me saying that im not a walking precription vs non prescription encyclopedia and that the only reason i knew tylenol's classification was because I had it fucking shoved down my throat during a lab in university. not because im wiki-happy go lucky.
oh and nice move at the end, using blatent exaggerated blanket statements in order to sarcastically prove your point, EVOLUTIONARY. no one else on the nets is doing it!

I can be as civil as the next "adult". but when i see someone nitpicking over retarded details it makes me see red. most times IRL I keep it inside but since this is the internets, I have a longstanding weakness when it comes to lashing out in anger in that regard. big deal.

another thing that makes me see red is when people take my reactiveness as immaturity just because i approach most things in my life with passion. dont try and dumb me down with your "Im the logical realistic one that doesnt get worked up bullshit" just because you are using less emotional wording that I am.

ps. msg board fighting is such a good post gym cool-down. fur rillz.

[HEIRESS]

Such an idiotic comment.

I love randy.

[Randetica]

Such an idiotic comment.

didnt mean to hurt your patriotic cunt, no wait that was my goal! strike! go me!

[Randetica]

I love randy.

your love makes my idiotic comments go round! (y)

so from now on blame it all on heiress :mad:

[AceFace]

as a massage therapist, i can attest that this disease is real. it may not be that EVERY person diagnosed has it, but i have seen many people suffering from the effects of "fibro". i myself have been diagnosed with a mild form of it, but i honestly think i just need a massage every once in awhile.

my opinion is that it's mostly an american disease b/c it's brought on by our terrible eating habits. fibro is one of the first real effects we're seeing from our fast food nation. the breakdown of our soft tissues. like i said, that's just my opinion.