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QueenAdrock
01-14-2008, 12:08 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/opinion/14krugman.html?em&ex=1200459600&en=0a7286ad193e4822&ei=5087

It's an interesting article I found from the NY Times, it describes how the economy should be the biggest worry for Americans right now and describes the politicians' stances on it. The more I read about Edwards, the more I like him. I'm still leaning towards Obama at this point, but Edwards is a very close second.

Though I doubt it really matters, because North Carolina is voting in May and the candidate will pretty much be a lock by then, so my vote will mean very, very little at that point. Oh well. :(

saz
01-14-2008, 04:46 PM
tony snow tried to downplay the coming of a recession on bill maher this weekend, but catherine crier schooled his propaganda-dishing ass.

i was like you, i used to be for obama. but then, he started skipping out on, or avoiding key senate votes, such as fisa. he also threw his support behind the free trade pact with peru, which could lead to more outsourcing of jobs. he's been quite vague in a lot of areas, except for foreign policy. obama also seems to believe that universal health-care and change will arrive in washington by sitting down and negotiating with big corporate lobbyists, the pharmaceutical industry and private health insurance firms. it shouldn't really have surprised anyone, considering all of his corporate and wall street donors (http://nymag.com/news/politics/30634/). i then realized that obama is hardly a progressive or on the left. in fact, i think he's a staus quo dlc-approved centrist, and a really good orator. i think it's mostly hype, and the media is to blame for being a pathetic joke (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-jong/we-deserve-what-we-get_b_81288.html), and for ignoring edwards and turning the dem nomination into a deep-pocketed celebrity contest between hillary and obama. or better yet, a high school popularity contest. it's nothing personal against them, if either were elected president i'm sure it'd be a colossal improvement over the current fascistic regime. i'm sure they'd both improve foreign relations, implement the kyoto protocal and combat climate change. however, middle and working-class americans would not benefit, and washington will not change at all whatsoever.

i switched to edwards because he knows that in order to achieve universal health-care and real change in washington, all of the corporate lobbyists, the pharmaceutical industry and private health insurance firms must be denied a seat at the table, and fought with no mercy. there is no way that they would sacrifice one dime from their profits in order for americans to have universal health-care. his entire campaign has been about fighting poverty, fighting for universal health-care, fighting corporate greed, and standing up for the poor, working and middle-classes. not only does corporate america fear (http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7217369) edwards, but so do the republicans, considering that he is the most electable democrat (http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/cnn-national-matchups-john-edwards-most-electable-121207001.html).

yeahwho
01-16-2008, 02:24 PM
tony snow tried to downplay the coming of a recession on bill maher this weekend, but catherine crier schooled his propaganda-dishing ass.

i was like you, i used to be for obama. but then, he started skipping out on, or avoiding key senate votes, such as fisa. he also threw his support behind the free trade pact with peru, which could lead to more outsourcing of jobs. he's been quite vague in a lot of areas, except for foreign policy. obama also seems to believe that universal health-care and change will arrive in washington by sitting down and negotiating with big corporate lobbyists, the pharmaceutical industry and private health insurance firms. it shouldn't really have surprised anyone, considering all of his corporate and wall street donors (http://nymag.com/news/politics/30634/). i then realized that obama is hardly a progressive or on the left. in fact, i think he's a staus quo dlc-approved centrist, and a really good orator. i think it's mostly hype, and the media is to blame for being a pathetic joke (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-jong/we-deserve-what-we-get_b_81288.html), and for ignoring edwards and turning the dem nomination into a deep-pocketed celebrity contest between hillary and obama. or better yet, a high school popularity contest. it's nothing personal against them, if either were elected president i'm sure it'd be a colossal improvement over the current fascistic regime. i'm sure they'd both improve foreign relations, implement the kyoto protocal and combat climate change. however, middle and working-class americans would not benefit, and washington will not change at all whatsoever.

i switched to edwards because he knows that in order to achieve universal health-care and real change in washington, all of the corporate lobbyists, the pharmaceutical industry and private health insurance firms must be denied a seat at the table, and fought with no mercy. there is no way that they would sacrifice one dime from their profits in order for americans to have universal health-care. his entire campaign has been about fighting poverty, fighting for universal health-care, fighting corporate greed, and standing up for the poor, working and middle-classes. not only does corporate america fear (http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7217369) edwards, but so do the republicans, considering that he is the most electable democrat (http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/cnn-national-matchups-john-edwards-most-electable-121207001.html).

Bill is back on? RTFOMFTSIG, goin' have to look up the new 'sode's biatches.

marsdaddy
01-26-2008, 07:48 PM
Jon Stewart said it best, "It's the economy, Needle Dick!"

QueenAdrock
01-28-2008, 02:11 AM
Yeah, I wonder why there isn't more emphasis on the economy this election.

Plus, out of 2,938 questions that have been asked to candidates this year, only SIX were about global warming. Why is this not an issue anymore? Even if people don't believe that it's solely humans doing it, the fact remains the earth has been getting warmer and this can pose a huge problem and we have the power to help combat it. What the hell, mang?

roosta
01-28-2008, 01:31 PM
I think the economy will be Obama's downfall, specially if the shit hits the fan in the next few months.

Shame though, I think he'd be good for the world. Or less bad than others.