Men aren't mature anymore/video game article

[Waus]

http://news.filefront.com/editorial-beware-the-child-man/

I thought this was interesting. Decline in maturity and responsibility? Video game obsession?

I'm curious what other people think.

[Waus]

From my point of view - it's not really a decline in "family values" and appreciation for video games, but a depreciation in valuing family. Divorce rates are so high and the way relationships work today - it just doesn't seem worth it to us men to try to find a nice girl and settle down.

Why would I?

I can stay single (or dating, whatever) and play video games and relax to my heart's content - be free to pursue my career without concern for my personal life and not have to worry about a woman and possibly kids that I'm de-facto responsible for.

I think there's just not enough motivation to start a family now to outweigh the benefits of independence offered by "hooking up" and playing games.

[Dorothy Wood]

people started writing to communicate information first. then it turned into a form of entertainment. people had a lot more time on their hands to sit down and read.

these days there are different kinds of entertainment...I think that's just a function of human and technological development.

video games are an escape. sometimes the escape is more alluring than reality. I don't think a man sits down and thinks, "well, marriage and success is not very appealing to me, I'm going to play video games".

the abundance of marketing, the push of consumerism leaves people empty. the younger generation has been taught that they should be accomplishing great things, but that's very hard to achieve these days. but you can always do great things in the virtual world with virtual rewards.


I dunno. my doodle bug plays video games only sometimes and doesn't let it interfere with our relationship. doesn't mean he doesn't stay up til 3 a.m. playing when I'm not around or if I fall asleep before him. sometimes he lets me play too. also, I played mario 3 on nintendo for like 4 hours the other day. so. whatever.

[Jitters]

Video games still have that negative viewpoint from those who don't play them. To them it's still something a 5 year old child should be doing, not something that someone who is in their 20's, that knows it's a respectable form of entertainment, should be involved with.

I think the problem goes way beyond that though and like it was already mentioned, if you don't want to get tied down and have kids then why do it? If you're perfectly happy by yourself and your position in life then it's alright.

The times have changed and the older generations just need to accept it.

[Waus]

It's just funny to me. I'd say about half of the men I talk to that are married will just say straight to your face "GOD - do not get married, it's such a hassle. I'm always having to answer to my wife about when I'll be home, what I'm doing with money, why do I spend time with the guys..."

Then this researcher lady comes back with her findings on men doing other things and says "Why don't you want to get married!? Why are you so immature!?"

Why would I want what seems to leave so many people miserable, divorced, broke...?

[Dorothy Wood]

maybe people should just marry people that they love and get along with and prepare for changes instead of getting married because they think that's what they're supposed to do?

that goes for both men and women.

I don't know, when I'm dating someone, they are a companion and a partner. I'm not looking to drain money or have constant attention from another person...I believe there are other women out there that aren't so needy.

[russhie]

It pisses me off that it's completely acceptable for men to bitch about women bitching, as in "when she bitches at me about money/when I'll be home/how many times a week I see my mates I find her more annoying and therefore less attractive."

Why is it always her fault? Maybe you are an irresponsible, inconsiderate jerk who needs to be bitched at?

This isn't really directed at anything/anyone, btw. Just thinking out loud.

[TurdBerglar]

because it's none of the female's business or authority to say anything unless there's children involved or something similar.


girls seem to make the guy their WHOLE life while guys tend to make the girl APART of their life. What the guy did before he met you is what he wants to do. if you interfere with that you're interfering with what makes him happy, sane and most importantly relaxed. a guy's main goal in life is to be as relaxed as possible. if you fuck with that process you're just gonna irritate him and he's gonna want nothing to do with you until he's not irritated with you anymore. if the thresh hold of irritation gets crosses a guy gets very determined to rid himself of the irritant whatever it may be.


what it all boils down to is finding someone that doesn't irritate you too much(for both sides) and not trying to change someone. and if you are happy with the person and there's just a few simple things that bother you about them then SHUT THE FUCK UP. and if you're not happy with who the person is... move on.

[tracky]

I keep my gaming life and personal life seperate. my girl hates it when i get stoned and play games, but i need that kind of release sometimes. i do feel a bit immature playing games these days, but I still enjoy it.

ps. that link didnt actually work for me

pps. spot on turdasaurus. i'd add that personally i'm willing to change a bit for the other person, but not completely.

[russhie]

I get that you can't/shouldn't change someone, but I think once you've made a commitment to someone, ie. purchase joint assets, incur a joint debt or become responsible for household bills together, that money is going to be a point of contention at some point. And you have every right to demand equality in that respect, no matter how many times he complains about it.

It's bullshit that women make their lives all about men. Women , in general, seem to be more considerate and responsible in relationships and therefore seem to be more "involved".

Girls need a release just as much as guys do...

[Schmeltz]

Birthing a child into this world is at best an act of cruelty and at worst an act of monstrous abuse. Why anyone would want to get married and start a family, with all the problems and difficulties that entails, is beyond me.

[TurdBerglar]

as long as he's paying his fair share of the bills there's nothing to complain about. if he isn't paying his fair share then you have all the right in the world to kick him in the balls until he does.


you're right that females tend to be more involved. it's just the common guy just isn't as interested in being in a relationship as most women. a relationship just isn't as important to the average guy. and this is where all the tension is developed.

Girl: I need to leave for three days for a family thing
Guy: oh that sucks (translation....sweet! i get to jerk off and play video games all weekend and hang out with my friends i've barely seen in months!)
girl: im gonna miss you so much!!!!
guy: starts to say, "but it's only three days...". catches himself then says, "um... yeah, me too".

girl comes back

girl: you only called me three times!!!!
guy: starts to say,"isn't that enough?". catches himself and then says,"oh im sorry, i was really busy."

the level of interest just isn't the same between the average person from each sex. of course he's interested. just not as much. you just need to find someone just as interested as you to keep a level ground.

[Lex Diamonds]

This article is a huge mound of hot steaming bullshit, with flies buzzing round it and maybe bits of straw sticking out the top. It's not like the only thing immature people do is play videogames. I stopped playing games regularly when I was 16 or 17, I'm still pretty immature. Likewise it's not like playing videogames automatically means you're not mature.

[Waus]

Girl: I need to leave for three days for a family thing
Guy: oh that sucks (translation....sweet! i get to jerk off and play video games all weekend and hang out with my friends i've barely seen in months!)
girl: im gonna miss you so much!!!!
guy: starts to say, "but it's only three days...". catches himself then says, "um... yeah, me too".

girl comes back

girl: you only called me three times!!!!
guy: starts to say,"isn't that enough?". catches himself and then says,"oh im sorry, i was really busy."


Wow, that's pretty spot on.

[jabumbo]

it seems like its just the way the previous generations are looking at hoe the current ones are doing things.

i mean, i personally see no reason why i should get married now, even if i did have someone who i would want to do it with. why push yourself through all that stress and financial burden so early when you have little to spare and more motivation to go out and enjoy yourself before?

i can't see why two people can't be perfectly happy and everything else without those elements. sure, kids would be a great thing to have, but its certainly not something i want to deal with at this time in my life.

[AceFace]

Wow, that's pretty spot on.

not always. sometimes i'll go all day without calling my husband, and when he calls me he complains that i haven't called. so yeah, it's not always the girls.

the only time i get pissy at him playing video games is when he gets so mad he throws the controller... that's just a tad bit too scarry for me.

[Dorothy Wood]

Girl: I need to leave for three days for a family thing
Guy: oh that sucks (translation....sweet! i get to jerk off and play video games all weekend and hang out with my friends i've barely seen in months!)
girl: im gonna miss you so much!!!!
guy: starts to say, "but it's only three days...". catches himself then says, "um... yeah, me too".

girl comes back

girl: you only called me three times!!!!
guy: starts to say,"isn't that enough?". catches himself and then says,"oh im sorry, i was really busy."

the level of interest just isn't the same between the average person from each sex. of course he's interested. just not as much. you just need to find someone just as interested as you to keep a level ground.


I don't know why it has to be like that. I don't know why girls don't let their boyfriends hang out with their friends. or why the girl can't be friends with the dude's friends. I think that if that's how a relationship is, it's never going to work in the long run.

I think it's pretty shitty that girls have that reputation. maybe I'm just weird, I hardly ever get mad at my boyfriend. We enjoy each other's company and we have mutual friends.

It's pretty unfortunate that there would be relationships where one person just tolerates the other. sounds horrible for both people.

[TurdBerglar]

it seems to me that females, mainly younger females, want this semi fairy tale relationship that doesn't really exist. they want to be the guy's center of attention almost 100% of the time, and if she isn't she seems to think she's getting mistreated. and it seems this thought process eventually goes away when they realize this fairy tale doesn't exist and they've alienated a bunch of good boyfriends that they could have been really happy with.


most guys seem to not expect nearly as much from their mates as women expect in return. all the typical guy wants is a girl that he finds physically attractive, doesn't piss him off too much, can maybe hold a conversation with and is convenient to their current life. you typical younger females just want a whole lot more. plus you seem to want the guy beside you ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE. a guy wants no one beside him ALL DAY LONG nevermind every fucking day.

whenever a guy does find someone that he wants beside him all day long every day of his life the female is usually very very fucking chill and just doesn't give a shit.

[paul jones]

I was there when Space Invaders was new and lots of coins were put into that and Pac-Man,Asteroids etc etc

I go through phases with games,they've never controlled my life.They're just a good escape, I think the most time I've spent on a game is GTA San Andreas because it was the ultimate game

[Miho]

whenever a guy does find someone that he wants beside him all day long every day of his life the female is usually very very fucking chill and just doesn't give a shit.

I found someone like that, but then it's the other way around, when I want to hang out with her all the time, she doesn't. :P Sucks.

PS: We're not dating. Just friends.

Edit: Oh yeah, and for this topic, video games have been a big part of my life, regardless if that has been a good or bad thing, they have shaped who I am in character. These days, I don't do very much video gaming, despite continuing buying games. I still love the culture. <3

[russhie]

it seems to me that females, mainly younger females, want this semi fairy tale relationship that doesn't really exist. they want to be the guy's center of attention almost 100% of the time, and if she isn't she seems to think she's getting mistreated. and it seems this thought process eventually goes away when they realize this fairy tale doesn't exist and they've alienated a bunch of good boyfriends that they could have been really happy with.


most guys seem to not expect nearly as much from their mates as women expect in return. all the typical guy wants is a girl that he finds physically attractive, doesn't piss him off too much, can maybe hold a conversation with and is convenient to their current life. you typical younger females just want a whole lot more. plus you seem to want the guy beside you ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE. a guy wants no one beside him ALL DAY LONG nevermind every fucking day.

whenever a guy does find someone that he wants beside him all day long every day of his life the female is usually very very fucking chill and just doesn't give a shit.

I think maybe you know the wrong girls. The girls I know now aren't the needy types you seem to think many young women are.

Dorothy is pretty bang on. I think it's sad that women are seen that way by, it seems, a majority of men.

[TurdBerglar]

the level it takes for you to see someone as a needy person is probably a lot higher than mine or most guys. it doesn't take much for a guy to see someone as being needy.

[Kid Presentable]

Australian women are independent and not easily impressed (for the most part).

[russhie]

the level it takes for you to see someone as a needy person is probably a lot higher than mine or most guys. it doesn't take much for a guy to see someone as being needy.

I don't know how you became a spokesperson for the everyman, but, anyway. Men, it seems to me, are needy in different ways - women may be more emotionally needy, but in my opinion men are sexually more needy. You want a blowjob? Tell me I'm pretty first.

Relationships work when you each recognise one another's needs, and attempt to fulfil them. It takes some understanding on both sides and labelling your girlfriend as a 'nagging wife' just seems to be taking the lazy way out.

[Waus]

You want a blowjob? Tell me I'm pretty first.

:eek:secret of the universe

[TAL]

Turd doesn't like blowjobs.

[Miho]

I don't know how you became a spokesperson for the everyman, but, anyway. Men, it seems to me, are needy in different ways - women may be more emotionally needy, but in my opinion men are sexually more needy. You want a blowjob? Tell me I'm pretty first.

Relationships work when you each recognise one another's needs, and attempt to fulfil them. It takes some understanding on both sides and labelling your girlfriend as a 'nagging wife' just seems to be taking the lazy way out.

Not all men are sex fanatics, y'know. Neither can you speak for the everyman.

[Auton]

most are though

[russhie]

Not all men are sex fanatics, y'know. Neither can you speak for the everyman.

I don't remember saying that all men were sex fanatics...I just gave my opinion based upon the men/boys that I know. Turd comes across differently - like, this is how he sees things therefore that is how they are.

Like I said, Waus...you fulfil a need in another person, your chances of having your own needs taken care of increase - I wasn't promising to uncover the greatest sex secret of all time.

[Lex Diamonds]

If you eat a girl right then she will do pretty much anything you want. True story.

[paul jones]

If you eat a girl right then she will do pretty much anything you want. True story.

this must invole HP sauce yes?