The Clipse - We Got It For Cheap Vol. 3

[Lex Diamonds]

New mixtape hit the internet yesterday. It's the best hip-hop drop of '08 so far in my opinion. Their beat selection is lovely, check that Rainy Dayz joint. :eek:

Get it for cheap (http://rapidshare.com/files/88982362/cheap.rar)

[Drederick Tatum]

cheers.

[Auton]

good lookin out

[checkyourprez]

(y)big ups man.

[Parkey]

Boom!

Fucking ace.

[Tompz]

They should rap about more things than cocaine and iced-up watches.

Still think their best stuff's the hits from the first album.

[Kid Presentable]

^^^yeah, I hear ya. It's good though. Glad it's free.

[Gareth]

tree huggin ass bitch, please
thanks.

[Kid Presentable]

It highlights how under appreciated the 'Cry Now' beat is. The beat selection on Real Niggas pwns the rest.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by The Padster
It's the best hip-hop drop of '08 so far in my opinion.

It's February 5th. It's pretty much the only hip-hop drop of '08 so far.

[checkyourprez]

It's February 5th. It's pretty much the only hip-hop drop of '08 so far.

and what a shame that is. 15 years ago you would have multiple classic albums coming out every week. man how the times have changed.

[Lex Diamonds]

It highlights how under appreciated the 'Cry Now' beat is. The beat selection on Real Niggas pwns the rest.
Yeah my heart jumped when I heard the "Cry Now" beat. Glad someone else appreciated it. (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

It's February 5th. It's pretty much the only hip-hop drop of '08 so far.
There's been plenty of shit out in the last month. Where you been, doggy?

[adam_f]

I haven't been listening to hip hop at all. Just the new Lupe. So I guess I was wrong since I have no idea what's come out.

[Auton]

no, you're wrong because you're listening to lupe.

[adam_f]

Okay. I'm wrong for two reasons. I'm not arguing because I won't win.

[HEIRESS]

that made dinner cooking and dish-washing real fun like tonite.

thanks.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah my heart jumped when I heard the "Cry Now" beat. Glad someone else appreciated it. (y)

Ha. You know, Slimm put me onto Cry Now. Some rappers get a pass for lacing a nice beat. Obie is one.

[Auton]

Okay. I'm wrong for two reasons. I'm not arguing because I won't win.

aw come on

[adam_f]

I'm just saying, lyrically the Lupe album was one of the best of 2007 and anybody who says that he's overrated because he uses big words rather than focus on content or whatever should listen to "Hip Hop Saved My Life" where he essentially retold Hustle & Flow in three minutes.

Not to mention the fucking fact that I defy any other fucking rapper out there to write "a subtle solace to demolish a troubled conscious of a populous with no knowledge and every freedom denied" AND have it make sense within the context of the song. Fucking Christ, that's all I hear from anybody who is in the car with me.

And whoever wrote your signature is a class act and a half. Good people.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah, I never understood all the Lupe hate. I think dude is good.

[Tompz]

is production by neptunes?

not been able to listen yet

[Lex Diamonds]

Yeah, I never understood all the Lupe hate. I think dude is good.
I like his music but I do think he's a prick to the point I don't listen to him too often. The whole Fiascogate thing plus his general attitude and the fact he's suddenly trying to get his gangsta on has slowly but surely destroyed all respect I had for him.

Tompz - look up what a "mixtape" is.

[Kid Presentable]

Don't be a sheep, man. That fiascogate thing is blown way out of proportion. And dude was honest to a fault about not listening to Midnight Marauders. Fuck, I hadn't heard it until like late 1995 or something. Yeah his attitude may well have fucked him over, but dudes like Phonte are just circling, waiting to hate as well. I mean, I could spit the lyrics to hundreds of rap songs verbatim, but I'm not trying to write my own material at the same time.

[checkyourprez]

leave the clipse thread to the clipse.

start a lupe thread for the lupe talk.



i just wish this mixtape was longer. vol.1 and 2 had like 25 songs on them.

however the sound quality of vol.3 is way better than the first two i feel.


i feel they really kill rainy dayz. roc boys is dope too. and i kinda wish they did more with that pun beat and the snoop beats instead of putting them together really quick.

[Lex Diamonds]

Don't be a sheep, man. That fiascogate thing is blown way out of proportion. And dude was honest to a fault about not listening to Midnight Marauders. Fuck, I hadn't heard it until like late 1995 or something. Yeah his attitude may well have fucked him over, but dudes like Phonte are just circling, waiting to hate as well. I mean, I could spit the lyrics to hundreds of rap songs verbatim, but I'm not trying to write my own material at the same time.
What do you mean it's blown out of proportion? By who? I read all the interviews with Lupe and with Tribe and he was just being a complete dick about the whole thing. It's not about the fact he hadn't heard the album, it's about him lying. He lied about his relationship with Q-Tip and backpedalled like a cunt when he got caught out. That's my opinion, I don't get how that's being a sheep. Like I said his music is good but I really don't like him as a person.

But yeah, that's for another thread. I wish Clipse would hurry up and release another full album, this mixtape has reminded me that they're one of the few relevant groups doing it today.

[Auton]

What do you mean it's blown out of proportion? By who? I read all the interviews with Lupe and with Tribe and he was just being a complete dick about the whole thing. It's not about the fact he hadn't heard the album, it's about him lying. He lied about his relationship with Q-Tip and backpedalled like a cunt when he got caught out. That's my opinion, I don't get how that's being a sheep. Like I said his music is good but I really don't like him as a person.

agreed. it's his fucking annoying ass arrogance about his ignorance that pisses me off. acting like tribe BEGGED him to perform, and then being like "and i STILL haven't listened to midnight marauders." little shit.


dudes like Phonte are just circling, waiting to hate as well.

yeah, and Phonte can also rap circles around that little twerp, and knows what he's talking about.

[g-mile7]

agreed. it's his fucking annoying ass arrogance about his ignorance that pisses me off. acting like tribe BEGGED him to perform, and then being like "and i STILL haven't listened to midnight marauders." little shit.




yeah, and Phonte can also rap circles around that little twerp, and knows what he's talking about.

hahaha guess Lupe just trying to hard to be his idol Nas...like I've said I like his lyrics and flow at times but his damn delievery is hard to get into...oh well the mixtape is great, rather an actaul LP but this will tide me over till it hits...whenever that is

[Kid Presentable]

Sheep, see? Hahaha it's all good. (y)

[Auton]

because whenever there's more people on the side that disagrees with you, it instantly makes them sheep, right?

[g-mile7]

Sheep, see? Hahaha it's all good. (y)

BA BA BLACK SHEEP

I don't get your comment because I happen to like Lupe and have his LPS. I don't believe I came off as disagreeing with you in terms of the merits of his rapping skills. So how does this make me a sheep? Considering that I was one of those few people who stuck for him when everyone was "sheeping" about how overated Food and Liqour was, how the cover was wahck and how he's trying to sound like Jay-Z(which I dont get at all). Don't get that comment at all, but I could be mistaken about what you meant by that, seems to happen more than neccessary when its comes to us...though it really doesn't matter.

But it is true his flow and delievery can be very hard to get into. Its very rough at times and unrefined. Even Lil Wayne aka the devil himself can flow/deliever his raps better (on SOME songs) as well as artist like RZA and Talib who have flows similar to his (thats my take). Even the song "Superstar", which is a banger, throws me off due to his flow and delievery.


And Lupe was ignorant to say what he said. Although a key chunk of his fan base happens to be kids who hate "mainstream" a good portion of those fans are also fans of the Native Tongues movement (I mean "Paris, Toyko"...it doenst get more Tribe then that). His comments; however dumb they are, should not be considered when analyzing his worth as an MC. He is good, but I still feel that he has a good hype machine around him.

Phonte has every right to go at him as a member of the hip-hop profession and a fan of Tribe.



But what the hell does this have to do with the Clipse though? Really.

[g-mile7]

because whenever there's more people on the side that disagrees with you, it instantly makes them sheep, right?

I call it the "QDrop" effect


aka the ways of the dying board.

[adam_f]

I haven't read the whole thread but what in fucks name is "sheeping?"

[g-mile7]

I haven't read the whole thread but what in fucks name is "sheeping?"

following the herd my dear adamF...clever, but commonly used term on the net.


Though I agree there are people who are sheeping with the hate of Lupe, you could say the same thing about people liking him just because its the "in" thing to do. That is where you find the flaw in such a term as sheeping.


I just shake my head to it all, while "Gold Watch" blast through my head phones (one the best songs on The Cool)

[Kid Presentable]

because whenever there's more people on the side that disagrees with you, it instantly makes them sheep, right?

I've seen the flock. It's true. It's such a pack mentality with the Lupe hate that it's hard for me to give it any credibility. So many 'Hip Hop Headz' feel a personal slight has been inflicted upon them by this dudes very existence that it's ridiculous. I hear Gmiles comment about it being the same with regards to people liking dude, but after all this time surely you realise my intention is never to do what's popular? It's been shown time and again you guys are like the consensus opinion on rap music, and that's fine. For the most part I can dig. If we're all sheep, I'm a goat. Or something.

[Lex Diamonds]

I think I justified my opinions on Lupe pretty clearly. It's not about anyone being sheep or following each other, I think it's about Kid Presentable always trying to undermine other people's opinions because he can never be wrong.

No offence to you as a person, it's just the way you are.

Yeah anyway, how about them Clipses? I said "tree huggin'-ass bitch, please" to my vegetarian friend the other night, she loved it.

[Kid Presentable]

I think I justified my opinions on Lupe pretty clearly. It's not about anyone being sheep or following each other, I think it's about Kid Presentable always trying to undermine other people's opinions because he can never be wrong.

No offence to you as a person, it's just the way you are.


I like to undermine your opinions because you're a know-it-all who assumes that because nobody corrects you, you're the man. Offense to you. I'm flattered you guys gave my remark so much thought. I look forward to reading the same reply five times. (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

Looks like I struck a chord. It's really not a big deal, people disagree with you. Move on.

[Kid Presentable]

It's not a big deal at all. There are people in the thread whose heckles were raised by my sheep remark.

Scenario 2008 ftw.

[checkyourprez]

i dont fit in your coke rap genre, put it in the pot it come back like karma.


the wind blow it come and go im hurricane listen again i hurry cane dont make me come to miami and bury wayne.


eeeeyyyyuuuck. you kidding me?


clipse is right, nobodys fuckin with them.

[g-mile7]

I've seen the flock. It's true. It's such a pack mentality with the Lupe hate that it's hard for me to give it any credibility. So many 'Hip Hop Headz' feel a personal slight has been inflicted upon them by this dudes very existence that it's ridiculous. I hear Gmiles comment about it being the same with regards to people liking dude, but after all this time surely you realise my intention is never to do what's popular? It's been shown time and again you guys are like the consensus opinion on rap music, and that's fine. For the most part I can dig. If we're all sheep, I'm a goat. Or something.

I thought the consensus were the likes of NLOL and Mickill...thats not a diss, but what I've noticed in terms of the most opinionated, mostly right people on rap...of course you have yours trully, Padster, adamF, Auton, you and many others who post lenghty comments dealing with rap(either wrong or right).


I'm not one of the "sheeps" you refer to and neither is Auton; thus, your "sheep" comment was unwarrented. I feel Lupe does get hate for no good reason other then the typical "his swagger is whack", "he's corny" blah blah blah, but in the case of his comment about Tribe, he deserves it...just for that comment and disrespect. Im a Tribe fan before Lupe anyday.

His skills are on par except minor issues I have with his flow and delivery. That being said...I hardly think there exist a collation of hip-hop heads that just agree on everything...I know plenty of people who don't think Wayne is as good as a few members of this board think. That right there proves the sheep comment unvalidated. With that being said....


CLIPSE>LUPE
CLIPSE>WAYNE(how many whack cameos can one man have???)
PHONTE>LUPE(in terms of flow and delievery and maybe...maybe lyrics refer to the Minstrel Show for evidence)

[g-mile7]

I think I justified my opinions on Lupe pretty clearly. It's not about anyone being sheep or following each other, I think it's about Kid Presentable always trying to undermine other people's opinions because he can never be wrong.
No offence to you as a person, it's just the way you are.

Yeah anyway, how about them Clipses? I said "tree huggin'-ass bitch, please" to my vegetarian friend the other night, she loved it.

hahaha this made me laugh

[Auton]

I've seen the flock. It's true. It's such a pack mentality with the Lupe hate that it's hard for me to give it any credibility. So many 'Hip Hop Headz' feel a personal slight has been inflicted upon them by this dudes very existence that it's ridiculous. I hear Gmiles comment about it being the same with regards to people liking dude, but after all this time surely you realise my intention is never to do what's popular? It's been shown time and again you guys are like the consensus opinion on rap music, and that's fine. For the most part I can dig. If we're all sheep, I'm a goat. Or something.

you're pretty gay if you seriously feel like you have to try to be different, or base your whole opinion on what's popular or not. hating on something because everybody else likes it is as retarded as liking something just because it's popular, but it has the bonus pretentiousness and head-up-your-own-ass-ness that comes along with it. and you're patting yourself on the back for it! as though you have some sort unique, different, viewpoint! you're still a sheep, you just share the opinion of a different herd. get over yourself.

[Nygel]

i dont like this

felt like chiming in on the original topic.

[Kid Presentable]

you're pretty gay if you seriously feel like you have to try to be different, or base your whole opinion on what's popular or not. hating on something because everybody else likes it is as retarded as liking something just because it's popular, but it has the bonus pretentiousness and head-up-your-own-ass-ness that comes along with it. and you're patting yourself on the back for it! as though you have some sort unique, different, viewpoint! you're still a sheep, you just share the opinion of a different herd. get over yourself.

Fuuuucks sake you uppity little shit. It was a stupid, throwaway argument. I'm flattered once again that I justified your sliding down your Ivory banister to weigh in, really I am. I never said I liked anything because it was unpopular, nor did I pat myself on the back for it. I'm embarrassed to even be replying to your moralistic rambling, but here goes:

I called you guys sheep because the opinion represented what I saw as the typical, cliched view. Not Padster or any one of you in particular, though. I just said "Don't be a sheep", like I'd say "Hey" or "Yeah". Really it was preamble, like in a conversation. I wasn't speaking in absolutes (Thou ist always a sheep!). I jumped on your reactions because you all seemed so smote by the idea that somebody was making fun of you. And that was fucking hilarious to me, especially since you all unanimously defended your credibility like the unique little snowflakes you are.

Like you're anything more than people posting second-hand information about rappers? From fucking information you got from interviews? About how their attitudes upset you? Is this the Teen-Beat forum?

Yes Anton (since you're such a disagreeable shit when you want to be), I probably should get over myself. You should get over me too, plus you should work on getting over your feelings being hurt by these rappers. Lighten the fuck up, the lot of you. This isn't a five-elements board meeting in some underground bunker.

I bumped the 'Good Morning' track a bunch of times today.

[Auton]

can we have make up sex now?

[Kid Presentable]

It's mine and I'll clean it as hard and as fast as I want.

[Kid Presentable]

Rainy Days.

[Nygel]

I bumped the 'Good Morning' track a bunch of times today.
i bumped the it a few times today too.... but it was the better version.

[russhie]

It's better to be a shark

sharks don't have necks

they can't look back.



Kid Presentable <3

[Auton]

to a real rebel!

[Gareth]

i'm from virginia where aint shit to do but cook / pack it up sell it triple price fuck the books

listening to that kind of carry on, and then watching the barksdale crew and proposition joe run the drug game baltimore makes me want to start my own operation

[Kid Presentable]

to a real rebel!

Hey, I couldn't do it without pompous bastards like you.

Nygel what don't you like about it?

[Nygel]

being a producer, one thing i hate, it people on different sounding mics on the same track, the progress from west's chorus to the verse is odd in that sense, then the loop is annoying cuz its not the actual instrumental. rhymes arent too bad i guess, kinda annoying flow/ voices. I just like Kanye better, which seems to get shit nowadays, oh well.... its hard to argue success. . . . unless you're on a forum.

[Auton]

being a producer, one thing i hate, it people on different sounding mics on the same track, the progress from west's chorus to the verse is odd in that sense, then the loop is annoying cuz its not the actual instrumental.

first off, :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

second- IT'S A MIXTAPE. mixtapes sound like shit. they all do. the shittiest shit ever, and that's part of the appeal- your favorite rapper uncensored by their label, sounding rough, raw and in your face. and of course the mics sound different- the vocals were probably recorded thousands of miles away from eachother. you're missing the whole point.

[Lex Diamonds]

I agree with Kid Presentable and Auton and g-mile, and anyone else who wants to put forth an uncontroversial, generic opinion. (y)

[checkyourprez]

being a producer, one thing i hate, it people on different sounding mics on the same track, the progress from west's chorus to the verse is odd in that sense, then the loop is annoying cuz its not the actual instrumental. rhymes arent too bad i guess, kinda annoying flow/ voices. I just like Kanye better, which seems to get shit nowadays, oh well.... its hard to argue success. . . . unless you're on a forum.

on his version of the song, or overall?

because kanye really cant hold a candle to the clipse rapping.

[Auton]

I agree with Kid Presentable and Auton and g-mile, and anyone else who wants to put forth an uncontroversial, generic opinion. (y)

thats the spirit!!!

[Kid Presentable]

Wait, who do we check with?

[Nygel]

first off, :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

second- IT'S A MIXTAPE. mixtapes sound like shit. they all do. the shittiest shit ever, and that's part of the appeal- your favorite rapper uncensored by their label, sounding rough, raw and in your face. and of course the mics sound different- the vocals were probably recorded thousands of miles away from eachother. you're missing the whole point.

huh, other mixtapes generally sound good from what I've heard.....

and yeah, i'd say im a bit of a producer... get payed and such but watever...

and as for kanye not holding a candle to clipse... dunno how its judged on who is better, since its a matter of opinion, but alright.... i actually never heard clipse before, i thought he made beats, as all i have are his instrumentals.

i knew i'd get shit for stepping into the thread cuz this is the generic sub-underground hip hop rules all type thread. i'll try to remember next time, im a go listen to fiasco now...

[Kid Presentable]

hahaha

*waits*

[checkyourprez]

huh, other mixtapes generally sound good from what I've heard.....

and yeah, i'd say im a bit of a producer... get payed and such but watever...

and as for kanye not holding a candle to clipse... dunno how its judged on who is better, since its a matter of opinion, but alright.... i actually never heard clipse before, i thought he made beats, as all i have are his instrumentals.

i knew i'd get shit for stepping into the thread cuz this is the generic sub-underground hip hop rules all type thread. i'll try to remember next time, im a go listen to fiasco now...

either i am confused or you are confused.

im not sure if you had a typo or you think clipse is a singular person who is a producer only.

if thats the case...

clipse are two brothers who rap, and usually get beats from pharell/neptunes.

kanye is a producer/rapper. who is generally considered a better producer than rapper.

since clipse only rap, that is what i was compairing. them rapping>kanye rapping.



and lastly how can you say you like kanye better if you never heard clipse?

[Kid Presentable]

Isn't the artist in question Re-Up Gang? Admins?

[checkyourprez]

Isn't the artist in question Re-Up Gang? Admins?

uhhh

[Kid Presentable]

rofl

[Nygel]

and lastly how can you say you like kanye better if you never heard clipse?

k, cool. Yeah, i was in the idea that Clipse was a one man producer, its an odd duo name. but as for the quoted part..... i heard this thing, and i've heard graduation and the cant tell me nothing mixtapes (nothing prior really).... based on that, i enjoy kanye much more. kanye may be considered generic pop rap but i would rather hear it than clipse, they remind me of every rap group i hear on myspace really, rapping isnt hard, presentation and flow seem to make the difference. i dont care if you can make rhymes that would blow my mind, if your voice is shit, your song is too.

Now as for what else clipse has done, maybe i would like it, but i like the style of kanye, much like lupe, common, those guys. its a good sound.

[Nygel]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UU82bPAH1mA

[checkyourprez]

liking kayne over clipse is fine. i know a lot of people that like that vain of rap...the talib kweli, common, kanye, lupe, ects. (i includded own albums from them)



but an honest hip hop head will tell you clipse are anything but run of the mill myspace rappers. they really are one of the best groups going.

[Nygel]

if i said that myspace duo, let me rephrase it, all the myspace duos TRY to sound like that, enough people going for the same sound will ruin it, that was my issue. clearly good, i just didnt like the particular thing.

[Lex Diamonds]

Nygel, I suggest you go and listen to Hell Hath No Fury (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C2562ES9) (Clipse LP). It makes Graduation look like a Backstreet Boys album.

[Nygel]

maybe, their voices arent too appealing to me... which in the case of listening, means a lot to me.

[Lex Diamonds]

YEUCH

[checkyourprez]

more like a eeeyyyeeuuuckkkk

[Tzar]

yeah i dug it. (y)

[ET]

It's a shame how Jive sat on their shit for a long time. Every wanna-be was talking about "snow" this and "powder" that years after Lord Willin' came out. Not that I'm into coke rhymes or anything. They're definitely unique and I believe they could run rings around Lil Wayne.

[Lex Diamonds]

They murked Weezy on this mixtape. Did you not hear?

"Sorry but I don’t respect who you applauding
Little nigga flow, but his metaphors boring
Don’t make me turn daddy’s little girl into orphan
That would mean I would have to kill Baby like abortion"

[checkyourprez]

"the wind blow it come and go
im hurricane
listen again i hurry cane
dont make me come to meame and bury wayne. "




(already threw this up on page 2 but im not sure if everyone got the wayne reference)

(and i know i phenetically spelled miami there, did it just for reading purposes because thats how he says it in the song)

i hate these little kids these days though, theres a lil wayne concert in rochester ny (where im at) in like 2 months, and EVERYBODY i know is going. and they all got these dumb ass "OO SHIT BEST RAPPER ALIVE 4/4" or "WEEZY THE BEAST 4/4" shits all over there facebook and aim stuff. i dont know if they are just brainwashed and have no clue, or they havent listend to enough rap to know hes aight but not that great.

CLIPSE>wayne that is a real life comparison on goodness

[Kid Presentable]

^^^Yeeeeeeeeees we got the Wayne reference

[checkyourprez]

^^^Yeeeeeeeeees we got the Wayne reference


just making sure. (y)

[ET]

Yeah I haven't heard the tape yet. Should be ready in a bit... c'mon utorrent.

When people who enjoyed anything Soldier Boi related and learned that stupid dance, and are on Wayne's dick, you have to take their opinions lightly.

[Lex Diamonds]

I've seen the flock. It's true. It's such a pack mentality with the Lupe hate that it's hard for me to give it any credibility. So many 'Hip Hop Headz' feel a personal slight has been inflicted upon them by this dudes very existence that it's ridiculous. I hear Gmiles comment about it being the same with regards to people liking dude, but after all this time surely you realise my intention is never to do what's popular? It's been shown time and again you guys are like the consensus opinion on rap music, and that's fine. For the most part I can dig. If we're all sheep, I'm a goat. Or something.
From SOHH (http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/13732):

"Lupe Fiasco is at it again. The harebrained, self-indulged, so-called "smart rapper" is still trying to pass off cynicism as intelligence, but his card has been pulled once again. Here's what that uncool fraud had to say on the topic of racism.

"Racism built this country," Lupe said. "Racism built the world. Racism is the basis of all societies. It's a necessary evil sometimes. Especially to keep democracy, keep us all comfortable." [Watch Here] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvsfvQT21Oo)

File that one under "Smart Rappers Say The Dumbest Things, Yet Again."

Trying to clean it up he continued, "But it's wack as hell. I hate racism."

Not as much as I hate the arrogance you exude while making these mind boggling, dim-witted statements. But wait there's more...

"I find comfort living outside the matrix, with all the evil robots and living underground eating oatmeal, that's where I want to be because that's true."

You know what Lu, how about you stay outside the matrix on the music tip. Clearly you're unique on that level, but when it comes to being a rebel thinker on real life issues, buy a friggin' clue, my man."


You still wonder why I think he's a prick?

[Kid Presentable]

I'm not going to have another argument about this. But I will ask; did you post that?

[Lex Diamonds]

Nah you know I didn't, that piece is just where I heard about it from, which I admit is hyperbolic and highly opinionated. Granted people may edit and focus on the worst of the shit he says but come on, there's pure video evidence of him being a complete wang.

[Kid Presentable]

Everybody's entitled to their opinion.

[pshabi]

Everybody's entitled to their opinion.

No shit. But, just because they're entitled to it doesn't mean they can't be a fucking douchebag.

And you know this man!