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MC Moot
02-12-2008, 01:20 PM
To euthanize or not that is the question…he’s still kicking…but just barely…bouncing off the tank sides...all the fishes are like "Charlie's a goner"....my director wants to take him out and finish him off….but I think it’s a great lesson for the kids,cycle of life completion and all…but they’re kinda freaking out…they asked me to call a fish doctor…:(...what would you do?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x265/mcmoot/Fishdeath1.jpg


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x265/mcmoot/Fishdeath2.jpg

afronaut
02-12-2008, 01:48 PM
The fish is upside down, I'm sure he isn't enjoying himself. And I'm sure your kids don't want to see their fish die a slow death.

I think the lesson of euthanasia is a better lesson than "sometimes things die slow deaths, and they turn upside down."

Actually, I think your lesson is pretty dumb. Teach them about mercy killing.

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 01:56 PM
well...then...how's your health Afronaut?...:D

If you got 5mins could you swing by and dispatch the poor bugger,preferably after school?

hpdrifter
02-12-2008, 02:01 PM
I'd say euthanasia if you have it. Poor little guy, are you sure he isn't dead already? Don't they turn upside down after they've expired?

Bob
02-12-2008, 02:07 PM
how do you euthanize a fish? it seems like letting it dry out would be kind of painful. flushing it down the toilet while it's alive must be unpleasant too

Guy Incognito
02-12-2008, 02:08 PM
That is an ex-fish from what i just saw

Yorkshire~Rose
02-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Awwww poor fishy :(

I was in the same predicament a few years back when i found my goldfish, Margo, upside down in her tank. Her gills were still moving ever so slightly and i wasn't sure what to do. I gently lifted her out and placed her on some kitchen roll...she took one last 'breath' and died.

I don't think there's much you can do for fish to be honest...

I just found this (http://www.provet.co.uk/fish/fishswim.htm) It's probably best to remove the fish or it may infect the others.

cookiepuss
02-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Well the thing is I've seen fish turn upsidedown like that and live for MONTHS. it espcially happens with fancy gold fish. it usually means that something in thier gut (I know I'm not explaining this right) has exploded/burst and it causes them to float on their backs. but they can live like that.

Sometimes fish float when they die, sometimes they lay on the bottom.

are those Chiclids? Because we have an 80 gallon tank at home filled with African Chiclids. and if they are...and that fish does die...the other fish is going to start eating him. you'll need to do a water change if he does expire.

ps. the humane way to kill fish is supposed to be to put them in water in the freezer.

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Oh,he's got some kick left in him allright...if you tap the glass near him he right's himself,swims down and hides out amongst the reeds...the last time one of his brothers did the same he lasted for 2 days before a colleague took him out put him in plastic bag and threw him out in the bin...she doesn't view fish as concious creatures though...it was like -20 so the nip might have got him before his gills failed him...se’ la vie...

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 02:55 PM
are those Chiclids? Because we have an 80 gallon tank at home filled with African Chiclids. and if they are...and that fish does die...the other fish is going to start eating him. you'll need to do a water change if he does expire.

ps. the human way to kill fish is suppose to be to put them in water in the freezer.

They are...but I think they're South American...our fishman say's they're like 15 years old...we started with 4...and one of them is red all time cause he's stressed,because when they were little one of his bothers ate one of his eyes out!...:eek:

cookiepuss
02-12-2008, 03:46 PM
They are...but I think they're South American...our fishman say's they're like 15 years old...we started with 4...and one of them is red all time cause he's stressed,because when they were little one of his bothers ate one of his eyes out!...:eek:

15 is pretty old! Maybe he is done for!

most types of Chiclids are pretty aggressive...but it also depends on the ratio of female to male fish. the fight alot for breeding rights.
when you breed them you need to separate the mother from the others. the mom carries the eggs/babies in her mouth until they mature then she spits them out. once that happens you have to remove her from the tank because she'll eat her babies. well duh, she's hungry because she hasn't been able to eat anything for the approximately two weeks that she's been intubating the babies! they are interesting fish, that's for sure.


oh and I just noticed the link that Yorkie posted. Swim Bladder...that's the thing I was talking about. if something happens to the swim bladder they float. but for the record I've not expericened that with our Chiclids. I've only seen it in fancy goldfish.

and just for fun...here's a little music video of our fish (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ud8YaEM8GDs). I even trained them to swim away at the end of the song. j/k. that part was pure luck. lol.

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 04:14 PM
and just for fun...here's a little music video of our fish (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ud8YaEM8GDs). I even trained them to swim away at the end of the song. j/k. that part was pure luck. lol.

I really like the rock formation in the botom of the tank...(lb):)(lb)

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 04:17 PM
I just found this (http://www.provet.co.uk/fish/fishswim.htm) It's probably best to remove the fish or it may infect the others.

thanks!...he does have the symptoms...

Swim bladder trouble - causes loss of balance, and fish may not be able to get down from the top of the water , or they may not be able to get up from the floor of the tank

cookiepuss
02-12-2008, 04:20 PM
^^river rocks. we have a creek in our back yard so we went down there and got a bunch of rocks. I can't take credit for the formation though. My Man does that part and changes it around when ever he changes the water. I tried once, but I'm just not as good at it, which is odd cause usually I'm artistic...but balancing the rocks is more of a spacial thing (finding the right shapes to balance on each other.)

they love to have hiding places to swim in and out of. the rocks are great for that.

p.s. if you collect your own rocks like we did, be sure to boil them before putting them in your tank. they need to be clean and bacteria free before you introduce them to the tank.

MC Moot
02-12-2008, 04:26 PM
^^...Do you have to sterilize them some how?...they’re purrrdy…and our tank is lacking in hiding spaces…especially being exposed to crazy kid trauma, glass tapping,shouting,etc…we have a catfish in there that’s 4o!...sometimes I think the fishman is messing with my mind…I mean 40???

cookiepuss
02-12-2008, 04:48 PM
^^...Do you have to sterilize them some how?...they’re purrrdy…and our tank is lacking in hiding spaces…especially being exposed to crazy kid trauma, glass tapping,shouting,etc…we have a catfish in there that’s 4o!...sometimes I think the fishman is messing with my mind…I mean 40???

p.s. if you collect your own rocks like we did, be sure to boil them before putting them in your tank. they need to be clean and bacteria free before you introduce them to the tank.

^ yeah i added that part after...so I think you must have responded around the same time I edited the post. Boiling should sterilize them enough.

I don't know much about fish age. he might be messing with you unless fish age in dog years. lol.

TOY
02-12-2008, 06:54 PM
I remember I had a beta fish when I was small, and his name was Simba, and he lived for a really long time. My mom used to call me the "fish whisperer", 'cause we had several beta at one point, and I'd get really upset and at random say they were gonna die.. And they'd die, like, next day.

I guess I said something about Simba, and sure enough that night he was turning for the worst. My mom saw that he was struggling to breathe, wrapped him up in a plastic baggy and took a hammer to his head. (I was recently made aware of this- thought it was due to natural causes.)

silence7
02-13-2008, 05:34 AM
I would at the least, put him in a separate tank/bowl to keep the other fish safe, as well as make it comfortable for him. When fish are approaching death, the other fish know it, and will soon start nibbling at him. We had this happen recently. The other fish started nibbling on the dying fish's fins.

On the other hand, you could use this to teach the kids about recycling! ;)

S7

RobMoney$
02-13-2008, 05:46 AM
It's beyond me how anyone can have feelings for a fish.
They don't show any love or any emotion like a warm-blooded animal such as a dog or cat, so how could you possibly have love for a fish?
Other than being pretty, they really don't do anything.

Remove it from the tank and place it on a cutting board and beat it with a hammer.

MC Moot
02-13-2008, 09:29 AM
On the other hand, you could use this to teach the kids about recycling! ;)

bingo!...he's most certainly going in the compost now...(y)

Randetica
02-13-2008, 11:26 AM
blowfish are damn cute

NoFenders
02-13-2008, 01:08 PM
I just lost about 10 koi last weekend. Too much crap in the water. I managed to save a lot, but lost some real pretty ones. :mad:


:cool:

MC Moot
02-14-2008, 05:03 PM
I couldn't stand it anymore...his kin were nibling at his fins...this should be a peaceful hypothermic end...:(

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x265/mcmoot/theend.jpg

Randetica
02-15-2008, 09:17 AM
r.i.p. you huge fuck

like every few weeks atleast one of my mother's fish die

Yorkshire~Rose
02-15-2008, 09:20 AM
:( RIP fishy