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yeahwho
02-27-2008, 10:39 PM
Eskimos file lawsuit against oil companies for being a nuisance and destroying their village in Alaska. Citing a neglect and abuse of carbon by-products.

Here is one of the many stories breaking today,

Flooded Village Files Suit, Citing Corporate Link to Climate Change (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/us/27alaska.html)
In an unusual move, those five companies and three other defendants — the Exxon Mobil Corporation, American Electric Power and the Conoco Phillips Company — are also accused of conspiracy. “There has been a long campaign by power, coal and oil companies to mislead the public about the science of global warming,” the suit says. The campaign, it says, contributed “to the public nuisance of global warming by convincing the public at large and the victims of global warming that the process is not man-made when in fact it is.”

Win or lose, they have a town thats being eroded by rising water levels at a very rapid rate, one that directly correlates to CO2 emissions trapped in our atmosphere the past 40 years*.

*please refer to any of the many charts which show the PPM of CO2 rising this past century (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=PPM+of+CO2+rising+this+past+century&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi), it's a fucked up situation

alien autopsy
02-28-2008, 03:06 AM
planets a-changing. i wonder how far these law suits will go....its really just as much our fault as it is the oil companies.

yeahwho
02-28-2008, 07:29 PM
planets a-changing. i wonder how far these law suits will go....its really just as much our fault as it is the oil companies.
It goes beyond what appears as just a bitch, the people of Kivalina are basically accusing the major power utilities of a concerted effort to conspire,

Or, as in the case of the Alaskan town of Kivalina, rising sea levels could force your complete relocation, to the tune of $400,000,000. Adaptation -- extremely costly and painful!

Felicity Barringer's story about Kivalina in Wednesday's New York Times is getting tons of play in the enviro-blogosphere. I was most intrigued by the conspiracy accusations in the lawsuit.

In an unusual move, those five companies and three other defendants -- the Exxon Mobil Corporation, American Electric Power and the Conoco Phillips Company -- are also accused of conspiracy. "There has been a long campaign by power, coal and oil companies to mislead the public about the science of global warming," the suit says. The campaign, it says, contributed "to the public nuisance of global warming by convincing the public at large and the victims of global warming that the process is not man-made when in fact it is."

From this Salon article, Conspiracy theory in the frozen North (http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/02/28/alaska_finland_and_exxon/index.html)

This is really a huge story, in many ways because it has now hit the major media. The rational is that the major power corporations are a public nuisance.

I love it, we'll probably be paying through the nose at the pump, the corporations don't cotton to being attacked or exposed.

alien autopsy
02-29-2008, 03:40 PM
i disagree. it is entirely man's fault. we are not forced to use gasoline or deisel. and oil companies are not the only corporations who lie to people. we are free to think whatever we want. and we do. and i really think the majority of people do believe global warming and its man-made causes.

the problem isnt these companies which we know are unethical, and have known about most all corporations that make billions of dollars a year, as being unethical. we are the reason those oil companies are there, are successful. we dont have to pump gas, we choose to.

as for eskimos recieving money to help save their villages, im all for it, but i have little faith that it is going to come from an oil company. maybe there are other avenues, like global warming campaigns and fundraising to go to all peoples who are affected by global warming...including those islanders who are losing their islands to the rising sea levels.


its not the oil companies fault for misleading the public. its our own fault for allowing ourselves to be mislead, and for contributing to the success of their lies by buying their product.

alien autopsy
02-29-2008, 03:42 PM
its kind of like asking the oil companies to pay for the rebuilding of new orleans because hurricane katrina was a hurricane made stronger because of global warming.