"Nigger"

[Lex Diamonds]

Let's talk about a controversial issue!

What do YOU think of Nas' choice of title for his next album?

Is he really doing it for a noble cause and to help strengthen racial equality or is he pulling a big focus-group planned publicity stunt?

Post your thoughts!


Personally I think it's another stunt like "Hip Hop Is Dead..." but I'm going to hold out to hear the content before I completely condemn Nas like the cynical prick that I am.

[g-mile7]

you just wanted to get away with saying "Nigger" thats the point of this thread, isn't it?



And yes it is a publicity stunt and Nas has always been a self-rightous twat when it comes to stuff like this...Jay-Z said it best in that song off Blueprint 2. One of those rappers that you liek to hear flow but rather not hear speak on anything outside of him rapping.

[Jitters]

It's a stunt all the way, he wanted to release it this month just so he could ride on the controversy it would create.

[g-mile7]

It's not going be a good album I dont think.

[Kid Presentable]

The title sucks. The album will (for the most part) suck.

[g-mile7]

Good book, bad album.

[Auton]

all that thug rappin and gimmicks

[The Notorious LOL]

I think Nigger is more effective than the original title of "Nigga"

He should have called it "The N Word" because it would have been kind of a clever little double meaning

[camo]

Stupid name. Should have let the music on the album do the talking instead. Imagine all the chavs asking for it in HMV?

[Otis Driftwood]

I think it's "terribly controversial" and you should all run out and buy a hip hop magazine to read up on all the "controversy". I'm bored...

[camo]

I'm bored...

go out and buy 'the dead rider'. It bloody brilliant

(y)

[Otis Driftwood]

I'm gonna look it up. Who wrote that shit?

[camo]

Kevin Ferrara. I't really busy but freakin great. Issue 2 is the latest one. (y)

[Otis Driftwood]

Haha, cool. Just subscribed for it. Reminds me of the old Deadlands/Doomtown card game! (y)
Now back to this ground-shaking n-word controversy.

[adam_f]

He should've called the album "Remember When I Made Illmatic?"

[checkyourprez]

What he should have done, is name it "Cracker" or "Honkey" or something really powerful like that.



But I do think it is a gimmick. I think it will have some bangers like all Nas albums do. Because lets be honest, Nas is a good rapper. But I also think it will have a lot of garbage like all Nas albums do. Because lets be honest, Nas sucks ass at picking beats.

[abcdefz]

The word needs to see retirement.

[Guy Incognito]

it might be a stunt but its a more meaningful stunt than say getting a big guest artist in or the normal type of music industry stunts. at least its tryin to say somethin. I think.
I dont normally comment on this guy cos i know a lot less than some of you but i dont think the album title should be dismissed as a load of bollocks which is the impression i got from reading some of the above posts

[hpdrifter]

He should've called the album "Remember When I Made Illmatic?"

Hahahahahaaa!

Incidentally, I think the better gimmick would have been to do a song with a guest out of left field. Like Amy Winehouse or something. Equally gimmicky but at least entertaining.

[checkyourprez]

Hahahahahaaa!

Incidentally, I think the better gimmick would have been to do a song with a guest out of left field. Like Amy Winehouse or something. Equally gimmicky but at least entertaining.

yaaaa but one gimmick makes it appear like hes atleast trying to be socially consious, while the other would just make him gay.

[funk63]

nigger nigger nigger. ya he said himself it was a stunt in a magazine i read. it might of been newsweek not sure.

[g-mile7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c2OQUWSQUE&eur


Nas makes me laugh...poor reporter

[Lex Diamonds]

Incidentally, I think the better gimmick would have been to do a song with a guest out of left field. Like Amy Winehouse or something. Equally gimmicky but at least entertaining.
He was supposed to be on Back To Black, they scheduled recording time and everything. He didn't show, claiming to be ill or something. That's what Winehouse wrote the song "Mr Jones (Fuckery)" about.

[Lex Diamonds]

you just wanted to get away with saying "Nigger" thats the point of this thread, isn't it?
Last time I typed nigga when I was quoting a Ghostface tune I got threatening PMs from the moderators saying they would delete all traces of me from the internet, fuck up my credit rating and make sure I never worked again.

Please Nasir, free me from these shackles!

[Planetary]

Last time I typed nigga when I was quoting a Ghostface tune I got threatening PMs from the moderators saying they would delete all traces of me from the internet, fuck up my credit rating and make sure I never worked again.

Please Nasir, free me from these shackles!

lol

[Bob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c2OQUWSQUE&eur


Nas makes me laugh...poor reporter

i thought his hat said "queers" at first

queers would have been better

[hpdrifter]

He was supposed to be on Back To Black, they scheduled recording time and everything. He didn't show, claiming to be ill or something. That's what Winehouse wrote the song "Mr Jones (Fuckery)" about.

Huh, did not know that.

You maaaaade me miss the slick rick gig.

[g-mile7]

Last time I typed nigga when I was quoting a Ghostface tune I got threatening PMs from the moderators saying they would delete all traces of me from the internet, fuck up my credit rating and make sure I never worked again.

Please Nasir, free me from these shackles!

I doubt that...but funny either way

[Elusive]

you just wanted to get away with saying "Nigger" thats the point of this thread, isn't it?


that is the first thing I thought too....
and
I think nas or someone spelled that word wrong...

[adam_f]

I assumed it was a concept album about his travels on the Niger River.

[Lex Diamonds]

I doubt that...but funny either way
Nah they did actually give me a warning saying they would ban me if I did it again.

Fascists. This is supposed to be a Beastie Boys board.

[abcdefz]

Don't call me "whitey."

[checkyourprez]

Dont call me "nigga", whitey.

[mickill]

And let's have a round of applause for Mr Obvious.

[checkyourprez]

i just made that up. i really dont know what your talking about, dick.

[mickill]

Don't call me "dick", Mr Obvious.

[abcdefz]

And let's have a round of applause for Mr Obvious.



Which one?

[checkyourprez]

Don't call me "dick", Mr Obvious.

sorry, captain planet.

[mickill]

Which one?

Isn't it obvious?

His name rhymes with weckborgez.

[abcdefz]

Damn. I thought I was Most Obvious.

Did I at least place?

[mickill]

Nah. But you get a ribbon for your participation like all the other underachievers. Try less harder if you wanna win.

[checkyourprez]

Isn't it obvious?

His name rhymes with weckborgez.


O mickill that is hilarious. very creative cappy.

[Tone Capone]

you just wanted to get away with saying "Nigger" thats the point of this thread, isn't it?

That's where I'd put my money... (!)

[Lex Diamonds]

Yeah, cuz I get a real kick out of typing words on my computer...

I wasn't born prejudiced like you fucked up Americans are. To me nigger is just another word, I barely notice skin colour most of the time.


PS
When I went to live in Namibia I had an interesting chat about the matter with a guy I became really good friends with there. Over there "nigger" is not seen as offensive at all, by any use of the word. It only has the positive connotations. The US and Europe needs to get like that.

[checkyourprez]

nuh daoubt.

its a fucking word. let it go. move on. shits over. the future is where change lays.

[Tone Capone]

Any argument that the "n-word" should have positive connotations or is ~just a word~ is fuckin ignorant.

[roosta]

To me nigger is just another word

But the fact of the matter is, it isn't just another word. And you have to recognise that and act accordingly.

Your opinion is your opinion, but the word exists in the real world where it has real meaning and real power, so you should be aware of that. Saying that you think so and so about something does not give you carte blanche to act any way you like.

[Lex Diamonds]

I'm not doing anything I like and I'm not claiming that it doesn't have power in the real world. I'm saying that when I think of the word I don't think of hateful and negative stereotypes like the majority of the western media seem to.

[roosta]

I'm not doing anything I like and I'm not claiming that it doesn't have power in the real world. I'm saying that when I think of the word I don't think of hateful and negative stereotypes like the majority of the western media seem to.

Its not about thinking of 'stereotypes'. Its about a word that offends an awful lot of people.

[Lex Diamonds]

I know it offends a lot of people, that's a stone cold fact. I'm not in the business of denying facts Mr. roosta so there is no need to be such a regimented pamphlet of them. All I'm saying is I know it is possible to take the power out of the word, and the sooner that happens (which it inevitably will) the better.

[checkyourprez]

I know it offends a lot of people, that's a stone cold fact. I'm not in the business of denying facts Mr. roosta so there is no need to be such a regimented pamphlet of them. All I'm saying is I know it is possible to take the power out of the word, and the sooner that happens (which it inevitably will) the better.

Thats the point. A person chooses to be offended by it. Its not right to use and their is no denying the past conotations that the world carries. But to get so gravley offended by a word when you have the power to just brush it off is stupid in my opinion. By not getting offended you now hold the power. I just dont see the point in letting someone enrage you with words.

[Bob]

Thats the point. A person chooses to be offended by it. Its not right to use and their is no denying the past conotations that the world carries. But to get so gravley offended by a word when you have the power to just brush it off is stupid in my opinion. By not getting offended you now hold the power. I just dont see the point in letting someone enrage you with words.

i dunno dude, seems to me like someone shouting nigger at you is kinda hard to brush off but i agree, they should try harder. i can't wait until black people stop being offended by silly words and we can get rid of all that racism

[mickill]

It feel like I just walked into a Mensa meeting here.

[Lex Diamonds]

You jokers can make light of it all you want. The issue is there and sooner or later it needs to be dealt with.

But let's get back to talking about Nas' publicity stunt.

[adam_f]

I miss the days when white people knew better than to debate its use.

[Lex Diamonds]

Why's that? You a conservative? A racist? A Republican?

Shit, you're probably Hitler himself.

[checkyourprez]

The word is more of a reflection on the small minded person using it, not the one its being said to. You (i use you in terms of no one specifically) know your not one, and cleary the person saying it is a foolish human. The person using the word is clearly trying to rile up the person hes saying it to. Why give them the pleasure? Its not worth your time.

[Auton]

come on guys, you're playing into nas's hands. this is the conversation he wants you to have. EVERY TIME YOU SAY THAT WORD NAS WINS

[Bob]

come on guys, you're playing into nas's hands. this is the conversation he wants you to have. EVERY TIME YOU SAY THAT WORD NAS WINS

DAMN YOU NAS

[Lex Diamonds]

come on guys, you're playing into nas's hands. this is the conversation he wants you to have. EVERY TIME YOU SAY THAT WORD NAS WINS
So does this mean Jay Lost?

[camo]

No, Jay Kwon

[checkyourprez]

whens this thing coming out anyways

[Tone Capone]

you just wanted to get away with saying "Nigger" thats the point of this thread, isn't it?

Again... (!)

[checkyourprez]

seriously though, when is this album coming out?


i thought it was last december, than i heard march, and now i dont see it listed really anywhere.

[adam_f]

Wikipedia says the new release date is April 22.

[checkyourprez]

thank you adam f.

[Lex Diamonds]

Yes, thank you dearly for selflessly looking on Wikipedia for checkyourprez.

I think we would all do well to take a leaf out of young Adam's book.

[checkyourprez]

the world would be a better place.

[Lex Diamonds]

With good honest values such as his, war and famine would be a thing of the past.

[adam_f]

You don't have to be a dick about it.

[Lex Diamonds]

Thanks for the advice.

[/best bit in Die Hard]

[roosta]

From Rolling Stone:

And you thought Hip-Hop Is Dead was a provocative title! "This record is a lot more serious than hip-hop," says Nas, who tackles race and American history on his new album. Polow Da Don, Stargate, and Cool and Dre contribute beats to the disc, which includes "Be a Nigga Too" (a play on the Dr Pepper jingle), the Fox News-slamming "Sly Fox," and "This Is Not America," on which he raps about sexism and racism in the U.S. "This album is like talking to your child about sex," says Nas. "It's uncomfortable, but it's important."

I bet you this will be the same oul, same oul. A Nas album let down by mediocre/sub-par beats.

[checkyourprez]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/11093104594b2fae/

"war is necessary"

track off the new album. pretty good.

[adam_f]

Be a Nigger Too (http://www.zshare.net/audio/1089171363ef0247/)

When I heard it was going to use the Dr. Pepper jingle I was worried it would sound poppy and corny like the commercial was, but it's pretty good. It's not Birthday Girl, thank God.

[TAL]

15 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcX9Jq_vMjs

[funk63]

15 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcX9Jq_vMjs

thats whats up.

[funk63]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/11093104594b2fae/

"war is necessary"

track off the new album. pretty good.


that song is in gta4

[checkyourprez]

nuh doubt. still nice though.

[Lex Diamonds]

So can we make it official now? Nas fell off, yeah?

[checkyourprez]

I'd like to hear the new album before I make that leap.

His problem isn't falling off, its his terrible ear for beats. You give him some dope stuff to work with and hes gonna rip it.

[Jitters]

The N Word is no more! (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.6963)

At least to Def Jam and Nas...

[taquitos]

spineless

[Lex Diamonds]

So can we make it official now? Nas fell off, yeah?
I mean, he can't even do a publicity stunt right.