Support Tibet

[misspiggy]

Yauch wants us to Tell your Congressional Representative to Support Tibet! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/../?p=70)
Please support Yauch and Tibet by sending messages to your Congressional Rep. Thank you.

[Laver1969]

Thanks for the link. I rarely check the home page. (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah cheers. This issue has been bubbling for far too long.

[misspiggy]

I've already sent the message to my 3 Congressional Representatives, so please do your share to support Tibet.

[YoungRemy]

it is definitely coming to a head now that Beijing '08 is coming up.
bunch of American reporters were told to stop filming the demonstrations.

the international community is going to have to get involved here

[Kid Presentable]

I can't really do shit all personally (being in Australia), but the double-standards of Olympic-socialism are bringing the issue back out into the public eye at the very least.

[beastieboysbaby]

I've already sent the message to my 3 Congressional Representatives, so please do your share to support Tibet.

i sent it.

[mathcart]

Thanks for the link. I rarely check the home page. (y)

I can't tell if this was sarcastic. I'm so insanely sarcastic that I read it that way but the more I read everyone else's thanks for stressing the importance of action on this issue I went back and it seemed to be totally deadpan. I was going to be impressed if you were able to maintain a front of sarcasm regardless of issue. Sorry for the inappropriate side commentary, but I wanted to know. I''l call my congresspeople right away. I swear

[dave790]

it's not sarcastic at all. i rarely check the home page.

[Laver1969]

I can't tell if this was sarcastic. I'm so insanely sarcastic that I read it that way but the more I read everyone else's thanks for stressing the importance of action on this issue I went back and it seemed to be totally deadpan. I was going to be impressed if you were able to maintain a front of sarcasm regardless of issue. Sorry for the inappropriate side commentary, but I wanted to know. I''l call my congresspeople right away. I swear

Hahaha...wow. My post wasn't intended to be sarcastic at all. I really don't check the homepage very often and was genuinely thanking misspiggy for the link.

[kidlofty]

I don't frequent this forum (posted once since registering 3 yrs ago) though I'm a longtime desciple of the b-boys. @ the moment I'm in chandigarh india just back from dharasalam. I've been over here close to a month so I don't know how all this is playing out in the media back home in the US of A, but I'm here to tell you that this shit is real. mcloud gunj is so beautiful, but right now there is an edgy, very serious and "proactive" vibe among many a young tibetan monk there and around northern india (not to mention those in lhasa). the indian government has a long standing policy of not publicly criticizing or even commenting on the chinese handling of the situation in tibet, but several indian officials as well as numerous newspaper editorials have gone outside this policy in the last week due to the heavy handed actions of the chinese authorities in tibet. even the dalai lama himself has gone beyond his normal approach of high road non-criticism to call it like it is. meanwhile, western media outlets (BBC etc) are literally being blacked out inside china and "independent" bloggers are calling the dalai lama evil, blaming him for the violence and death in lhasa, and even calling for his execution as a terrorist. I can assure you that I'm not just some bleeding heart activist pushing propaganda for this cause. I find myself in this part of the world on a completely unrelated work assignment, and I'm just relaying my observations of the last few weeks... just thought some of you might be interested in how it looks from here. peace out...

[djdjdj]

I've seen pictures of the troops in the streets and some of the people they shot at. It's guesome stuff.

[Astra]

I've gone through the Tibet issue in my head for years and after 1989 I thought that MAYBE we'd seen some of the last public terrors of the Tibetans under chinese rule.

I boycotted items made in China for several years (and boy is it difficult) and stopped after the grip of china released itself just a little. I've been learning mandarin as a defense and not a hobby -and yes it has been useful.

I'm again buying nothing from china and I mean nothing. That goes for the Olympics too.

The problem is that I must keep my name off of political lists that could lead the PRC back places that can endanger Tibetans currently in Tibet. It is my goal to help and not get people killed but what can we do? (those of us who cannot put our names on lists) What can we do to accomplish something from outside China/Tibet without getting others hurt.

If only my body could grow to the size needed to stand between them. I'd fling the soldiers directly to Buddha with a gentle *thwap*

I ask you now- and I'm sure others have mentioned it before me. Help to stop PRC by not handing them your money.

I don't mean to say don't support anything chinese I just mean imports, chinese people are not evil but the actions being taken against unarmed monks is beyond evil.

I'm a Buddhist yes, but I'm not a monk and I will defend with all the limbs I have.

Please let me know of any suggestions you have for support that is actually active and not just $ support or some list that will end up in the PRC hands.

[alikat]

The USA has boycotted Olympics hosted by totalitarian nations before (1980 USSR). What a statement that would be! In fact, what a sad statement if we didn't...


http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/16/news/China-Tibet.php

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/264131_olympics24.html

[Astra]

The IOC has said that a USA boycott for the games is "not an option".

It's not an option for me to keep the sickness in my stomach from rolling over me in that and I've written them a love note. I'm done with the Olympics. I was supposed to compete in the TKD but once I found it was in China I ceased my training years ago, now all ties must be cut.

here's the Email.

media@usoc.org


http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/17/sports/NA-SPT-OLY-US-Beijing-Boycott.php

[@water]

A boycott of the Olympics is not gonna happen, I'm afraid.

There is WAY to much money involved.
Unlike previous Olympics that has been boycotted, held in nations deemed as military powerful and "evil". China is regarded as the number one growing economy on the planet. Every other nation will want to do business with/in China. A country's boycott of the Olympics will clearly not be good for any business relations with that country.

Money talks for any politician in the western world. (n)

[joon]

Yauch wants us to Tell your Congressional Representative to Support Tibet! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/../?p=70)
Please support Yauch and Tibet by sending messages to your Congressional Rep. Thank you.

These three websites link to email campaigns addressing state representatives, the Olympic Committee President and the President of China. All you must do is enter very little information, click send and they do the rest. Visiting all three sites takes less than 6 minutes. It is a start to the long journey we have before us. Please repost these addresses in your myspace and facebook. Thank you. Freedom for Tibet.


http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/supporttibet


http://www.racefortibet.org/


http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/98.php/?cl_tf_sign=1

[IzzyNYC]

Please repost these addresses in your myspace and facebook.


Great idea!!! And I'd just like to reiterate just how simple this form is to "sign".... takes only seconds. And for our non-US friends who couldn't submit the first form, nows your chance.... get on it(y) (please)

[Astra]

A boycott of the Olympics is not gonna happen, I'm afraid.

There is WAY to much money involved.
Unlike previous Olympics that has been boycotted, held in nations deemed as military powerful and "evil". China is regarded as the number one growing economy on the planet. Every other nation will want to do business with/in China. A country's boycott of the Olympics will clearly not be good for any business relations with that country.

Money talks for any politician in the western world. (n)

You're right for the most part. Money can change a lot of things for some people and be quite the motivation for stepping on others. I've had the misfortune of watching several people who were dying cling to their money and belongings only to have to release them back into the world when they took their last breath. Since these circumstances I've long ago let go of that particular "attachment" to money and items. I've been in rags and riches and really there's not too much difference aside from the food, clothing and shelter part. (ie: less food, clothing and shelter)

Seems the world has ignored Tibet since day one of the invasion and seems they are going to continue. I am ashamed of the planet for this. What good are we if we do not defend the defenseless?

With the initial threat of HHDL to step down as Political Leader the riots may die down but I have a nausiating feeling that this is just going to quiet down because many people just don't want to hear about it and once again the cries of people trying just to be alive will go ignored by most the world too afraid to stand up.

[alikat]

i've read up more since my last post, and i just think it's interesting to note that much boycott pressure has been mounting due to china's policy in darfur, let alone tibet. for instance, i wasn't aware that last month steven speilberg resigned as creative consultant to the games on the darfur issue alone. (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1713718,00.html) (bush, of course, said he sees the games as purely "a sporting event" and had no plans to boycott but would have a chat with hu jintao about china's darfur policy.)

my point is, there's already a growing precedent of boycotting brewing, and it will be interesting to see if this latest wave of anti-tibetan violence helps to tip the scales. even if a boycott isn't realistic, exposure and change could very well be.

[silence7]

A friend of mine runs this site (http://folllow.com/topic.php?id=41), and I've been trying to keep an ongoing list of articles and videos of what's going on over there. If you have any links to add please do so.... There's a button at the top that says "Add Article"

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[PussyCrumbs]

Tell your Congressional Representative to Support Tibet! (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/../?p=70)
Thank you.
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[IzzyNYC]

I just recieved this email from Avaaz (sure that many of you have, too)... sorry for the long post but I think we're all in agreement that it's worthy.


Dear friends,

In just 36 hours, 253,553 of us have supported the Dalai Lama's call for dialogue and human rights in Tibet. This is an incredible response--if each of us can get 4 more of our friends to sign the petition, we'll hit 1 million this week! Just quickly forward the email below to your friends and family with a personal note from you-

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Dear friends,

After decades of suffering, the Tibetan people have burst onto the streets in protests and riots. The spotlight of the upcoming Olympic Games is now on China, and Tibetan Nobel peace prize winner the Dalai Lama is calling to end all violence through restraint and dialogue--he urgently needs the world's people to support him.

China's leaders are lashing out publicly at the Dalai Lama--but we're told many Chinese officials believe dialogue is the best hope for stability in Tibet. China's leadership is right now considering a crucial choice between crackdown and dialogue that could determine Tibet's--and China's--future.

We can affect this historic choice--China does care about its international reputation, and we can help them choose the right path. China's President Hu Jintao needs to hear that the 'Made in China' brand and the upcoming Olympics in Beijing will succeed only if he makes the right choice. But it will take an avalanche of global people power to get his attention. Click below now to join 250,000 others and sign the petition--and tell absolutely everyone you can right away--our goal is 1 million voices united for Tibet:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/19.php (http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/19.php/?cl=64308657)

China's economy is dependent on "Made in China" exports that we all buy, and the government is keen to make the Olympics in Beijing this summer a celebration of a new and respected China. China is also a sprawling, diverse country with much brutality in its past. And it has good reasons to be concerned about stability -- some of Tibet's rioters killed innocent people. But President Hu must recognize that the greatest danger to Chinese stability and development today comes from hardliners who advocate escalating repression, not from those Tibetans seeking dialogue and reform.

We will deliver our petition directly to Chinese officials in New York, London and Beijing, but it must be a massive number before we deliver the petition. Please forward this email to your address book with a note explaining to your friends why this is important, or use our tell-a-friend tool to email your address book--it will come up after you sign.

The Tibetan people have suffered quietly for decades. It is finally their moment to speak--we must help them be heard.

With hope and respect,

Ricken, Iain, Graziela, Paul, Galit, Pascal, Milena, Ben and the whole Avaaz team

Here are some links with more information on the Tibetan protests and the Chinese response:

Crackdown in Tibet, but protests spreading:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/tibet.china (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/19/tibet.china)
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/crackdown-on-protests-widens/2008/03/17/1205602289349.html (http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/crackdown-on-protests-widens/2008/03/17/1205602289349.html)

Dalai Lama calling for dialogue and restraint, and an end to violence:
http://www.dalailama.com/news.216.htm (http://www.dalailama.com/news.216.htm)
http://www.agi.it/world/news/200803191258-pol-ren0032-art.html (http://www.agi.it/world/news/200803191258-pol-ren0032-art.html)

Leaders across Europe and Asia starting to back dialogue as the way forward:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7300157.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7300157.stm)

Chinese Prime Minister attacks "Dalai clique", leaves door open for talks:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/18/content_7813194.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/18/content_7813194.htm)

Other Chinese signals:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/China_looks_at_India_to_talk_to_Dalai_Lama/articleshow/2875142.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/China_looks_at_India_to_talk_to_Dalai_Lama/articleshow/2875142.cms)
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[djdjdj]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080319/ts_nm/china_tibet_dc;_ylt=AoS0xr6bfakI80IhPPEt0mes0NUE

Doesn't it make you sick?

[beastieboysbaby]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Avaaz/8340223883

^this is the avaaz facebook

http://www.myspace.com/avaazorg

^this is the avaaz myspace

[MaestroDenis]

Gotta say though, these Tibetans didn't seem that 'non-violent' to me.

[gbsuey]

Gotta say though, these Tibetans didn't seem that 'non-violent' to me.

i think if you keep pushing someone-deny them their most basic freedoms-oppress and bully them, there may just come a day when tempers fray a little-don't you think?

[joon]

Gotta say though, these Tibetans didn't seem that 'non-violent' to me.

and how does 58 years of oppression sound to you? how does torture and wrongful imprisonment sound to you? how does a man who has been awarded the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, being called a jackal sound to you? nothing makes sense anymore, except people who have been beaten down and robbed standing up for themselves. that sounds incredible to me. this is a reaction and if you don't realize that then you need to do some research. i am not trying to be ugly here but if you think what they are doing is violent then you need to arm yourself with some information, what has transpired over the last weeks is NOTHING compared to what the Chinese have been doing to Tibet since 1950.

For those interested in taking domestic action please email the whitehouse:

comments@whitehouse.gov

Long Live The Dalai Lama

Pray for a peaceful resolution.

[joon]

Here, I will make it easy for you.

http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact1.html


For those interested in taking domestic action please email the whitehouse:

comments@whitehouse.gov

Long Live The Dalai Lama

Pray for a peaceful resolution.

[joon]

A boycott of the Olympics is not gonna happen, I'm afraid.

There is WAY to much money involved.
Unlike previous Olympics that has been boycotted, held in nations deemed as military powerful and "evil". China is regarded as the number one growing economy on the planet. Every other nation will want to do business with/in China. A country's boycott of the Olympics will clearly not be good for any business relations with that country.

Money talks for any politician in the western world. (n)

speaking of money. how do you think it will rest with sponsors like coca cola and NBC who have invested billions, yes thats right billions of dollars so that their banners and advertisements can be seen during the olympics EXCEPT for the fact that the Chinese government will be editing and censoring the entire games? That is a real chunk of change. And yes global capitalism may end up being the very reason this comes to a greater resolution.

on one hand--no one wants to rock the boat, but on the other hand sponsors want what they paid for--exposure, which WILL NOT be guaranteed with the Chinese governments stance on foreign press.

they are biting the hand that feeds them, and i find that delightful. unless they open up to the world, they will be shut down by this very unwillingness. it really is quite ironically beautiful when you think about it.

protesters may continue to be ignored. but as consumers 'rule the world' we may all just have the last laugh yet.

go on china, continue as you are, then someday, you will be forced to see that you brought this on yourselves.

if you are interested, here is a list of sponsors to avoid so that you can be sure your money is not supporting this brutal communist regime and the complicit olympics committee.
EF, Crystal, CG, Yuanpei Translation
Der, Floor, Aokang, Liby
PricewaterhouseCoopers
Mondo, Atos Origin
Coca-Cola, General Electric
John Hancock, Eastman Kodak Company
Lenovo Group Limited, McDonald’s
Panasonic, Samsung, Swatch, Visa

[joon]

Please let me know of any suggestions you have for support that is actually active and not just $ support or some list that will end up in the PRC hands.

for those concerned with safety and security issues in sending support to TIBET, please check out

http://www.guerrillamail.com/

not just for stalking anymore ;)

[IzzyNYC]

FYI for those in the NYC area and interested....


This Monday, outside the NYC Chinese Consulate, we will deliver a global call urging the Chinese authorities to open a dialogue with the Dalai Lama and end the violence in Tibet. Over 1.3 million people around the world have signed the Tibet petition, and now we need a couple of New York Avaaz supporters to step up, represent global citizens, and help us deliver the petition.

Monday is a Global Day of Action for Tibet. Hundreds of rallies for solidarity with Tibetans will take place at cities around the world--and our petition will be delivered at Chinese Embassies and consulates from New York to Sydney. If you're free on Monday between 11am and 3pm please join us at the Chinese Consulate on 42nd Street and 12th Avenue. Throughout the morning we’ll be waving flags, lighting candles and generally showing our support for the Tibetan people. Then, before the consulate closes at 3pm, we will deliver our petition to Chinese officials in front of the media. If you can make it, we’d love to meet you!

For more information, please email info@avaaz.org with "New York Rally" in the subject line, or call Kala Mendoza on 917 595 0140.
We look forward to seeing you on Monday.

With hope,

Ricken Patel and the entire Avaaz team