MMM Explains 3MC's and One DJ

[Laver1969]

I just came across this video where MMM explains 3MC's and One DJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6iGexp7Pn8&feature=related)

I hadn't seen this before and thought it was pretty cool. Since he doesn't mention the Beastie song, I wonder if this was pre-HN.

[sethomas]

it was def pre-30+ pounds! :eek:


ohhh no i did-int!!!!!!

[funk63]

haha sick.

[Kid Presentable]

Pretty sure I've seen tapes of him doing that routine from 1996 or so. I can't view the video here, but is he doing the beat that he uses in the concert performances? If so, then that's something a bit older than the HN concept.

[Laver1969]

I can't view the video here, but is he doing the beat that he uses in the concert performances? If so, then that's something a bit older than the HN concept.

Yeah...it's the beat he uses today. And he threw it in during his solo show I saw a couple of years back. I'd have to guess and say the video does appear to be 96ish.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

That is an excerpt from the Sure Turntablim 101 Video. It came out in 2000.

That sort of horn-burst, snare, kick combo (or sometimes its horn-blast, kick, snare) is common on DJ break records all the way back to the mid 90s. So it was pretty common to hear that type of drumming in the mid nineties (keeping in mind that Mike was one of the DJs who was pioneering the whole DJ Band concept.) Mike just broke that type of DJ drumming out to the general public on Hello Nasty in 1998. So it wasn't really new, it was just underground before.

That particular horn-blast, snare, kick combo on 3 MCs and One DJ off one of the Mr. Dibbs "Unearthed" records which either came out in 1997 or early 1998. So Mike has his (virtually new) Mr. Dibbs record in the studio with him and he's drumming with it, fucking around with sounds, when MCA says "we should rhyme over that." Mike said it happened spontaniously.

[sethomas]

Sir SkratchaLot drops knowledge like Steph Curry drops 3's. (y)

[Mr. Juice]

Quite informative--many thanks for posting!

I've always wondered what track he was cutting up, now I know it's just three different noises. I'm also glad he addressed the issue of getting lost on the record. Pretty amazing he knows how many turns it takes to get back to his Ol' Dirty Bastard sample. He's saved the Beasties on several occasions by backtracking to a certain part of an instrumental.

[mcamuto]

That is an excerpt from the Sure Turntablim 101 Video. It came out in 2000.

That sort of horn-burst, snare, kick combo (or sometimes its horn-blast, kick, snare) is common on DJ break records all the way back to the mid 90s. So it was pretty common to hear that type of drumming in the mid nineties (keeping in mind that Mike was one of the DJs who was pioneering the whole DJ Band concept.) Mike just broke that type of DJ drumming out to the general public on Hello Nasty in 1998. So it wasn't really new, it was just underground before.

That particular horn-blast, snare, kick combo on 3 MCs and One DJ off one of the Mr. Dibbs "Unearthed" records which either came out in 1997 or early 1998. So Mike has his (virtually new) Mr. Dibbs record in the studio with him and he's drumming with it, fucking around with sounds, when MCA says "we should rhyme over that." Mike said it happened spontaniously.

I believe it is 'Volume 2' or unearthed ?!? and I am pretty sure the ODB sample is from hip hop drunkies with the Alcoholiks released in Aug 1997 though I could be wrong!?

Did he use the same record on the HN version of just started live?? The HN version is so muddy sounding compared to the live one?!

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I believe it is 'Volume 2' or unearthed ?!? and I am pretty sure the ODB sample is from hip hop drunkies with the Alcoholiks released in Aug 1997 though I could be wrong!?

I can't remember which volume it is without pulling out the records and searching through them. I kind of remember it being volume 2 though. All the samples from that video are comming off that Dibb's record. Dibbs pulled them from somewhere else I'm sure. I'm preety sure Mike uses a special pressing when he performs live now but the concept came from that Dibbs record originally. The ODB sample is originally off Wu Tang's Mystery of Chessboxing (accapella) 12". "Introducing the Ghost Face Killaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa . . . No one could get illa." I think Dibbs extended it. Its been sampled all over the place though and its hard to tell whether the Alcoholiks sampled it and pitched it up at the end or ODB re-recorded it or what.

Did he use the same record on the HN version of just started live?? The HN version is so muddy sounding compared to the live one?!
The drums are definatley slower in the studio version and the studio version isn't live. He's doing the drumming and then overdubbing samples all over the place. They might just sound different because they're pitched down. It could also be different drum sounds though. I'd have to pull out the record and compare to know for sure.

Its crazy that people are still tripping on 3 MCs and One DJ because its kind of dated now with all the crazy drumming djs are doing these days.

[mcamuto]

I can't remember which volume it is without pulling out the records and searching through them. I kind of remember it being volume 2 though. All the samples from that video are comming off that Dibb's record. Dibbs pulled them from somewhere else I'm sure. I'm preety sure Mike uses a special pressing when he performs live now but the concept came from that Dibbs record originally. The ODB sample is originally off Wu Tang's Mystery of Chessboxing (accapella) 12". "Introducing the Ghost Face Killaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa . . . No one could get illa." I think Dibbs extended it. Its been sampled all over the place though and its hard to tell whether the Alcoholiks sampled it and pitched it up at the end or ODB re-recorded it or what.

Good shit on the ODB sample. I was not sure if the Alcoholics one was one and the same or what not. ODB Rule(s/d) with his nonesense.

The drums are definatley slower in the studio version and the studio version isn't live. He's doing the drumming and then overdubbing samples all over the place. They might just sound different because they're pitched down. It could also be different drum sounds though. I'd have to pull out the record and compare to know for sure.

Its crazy that people are still tripping on 3 MCs and One DJ because its kind of dated now with all the crazy drumming djs are doing these days.

I still bug out when I see MMM live do the routine. Its like some sort of 'classic' and its in its purest form. Like the ramones only playing 3 chords or class rock some that never gets old. MMM has a few particular 'staple' drumming routines that he does, this being a huge one. Its so simple and pure.

I sent my friend a video to a buddy (who has seen a lot of djs but not 'into it' per se) recently of the ISP vs klamz from 96 and he was totally blown aways. It still stands the test of time.

[Kid Presentable]

The studio version (me being a turntablist or not) is definitely a different drum sound/sample. I would venture the performance tapes I was referring to were from about 96, as he cut up the Firm 'Phone Tap' instrumental as well (which turned up on quite a number of live shows). That might have come out in 97, I'm not going to bother checking. Cheers for the other info guys. (y)

[alikat]

wow, that video & info just enlightened the shit out of me, thanks! (y)

in fact . . . i could watch the whole thing (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Shure-Turntablism-101-Video-960555-i1163282.gc). And not even instructionally -- just to watch masters at work like that is amazing.

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I still bug out when I see MMM live do the routine. Its like some sort of 'classic' and its in its purest form. Like the ramones only playing 3 chords or class rock some that never gets old. MMM has a few particular 'staple' drumming routines that he does, this being a huge one. Its so simple and pure.

I sent my friend a video to a buddy (who has seen a lot of djs but not 'into it' per se) recently of the ISP vs klamz from 96 and he was totally blown aways. It still stands the test of time.

What I like about it is its a simple staple pattern but Mike freaks the hell out of it when he does it live. Mike brings so much energy to his music that he's unflossable.

Here's some shit from 1992 haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zfCbxLWZt4

[blipstutter]

MMM can scratch anything, but he was using a lot of the same stock samples for a good while before joining up with the Beasties. He put together his first solo record just before joining the group, and he started using dub plates (individually pressed records, rather then the battle records he relied on before). His routines, and the selection of records used expanded big time around Hello Nasty.

[mcamuto]

What I like about it is its a simple staple pattern but Mike freaks the hell out of it when he does it live. Mike brings so much energy to his music that he's unflossable.

Here's some shit from 1992 haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zfCbxLWZt4

I feel you. Its like a guitar solo vs a band. A master can do so much with so little. Another big thing with the older guys, they had some roots and dug for beats where a lot of 'fad' djs seemed to own 4 battle records. At least here in the bay, where for a while everybody was a DJ. A lot of people always brag about QBert. He is technically probably the best but live he is not as versitile as MMM. Just gets up with 3 records, does some insance technical scratching and thats it. Mike will do the scratching, rock the funky beats and move the floor. He is like the whole band...

I have some ill MMM battles on video that I need to digitize and put on youtube from 92/93.

On a side note MMM just bought french country style house in the Hollywood Hills. I would have pictured him in some old converted loft in the bay. hahah

Do you have the Shigger Fragger Sessions?

[mathcart]

I sent my friend a video to a buddy (who has seen a lot of djs but not 'into it' per se) recently of the ISP vs klamz from 96 and he was totally blown aways. It still stands the test of time.

I have some ill MMM battles on video that I need to digitize and put on youtube from 92/93.

Do you have the Shigger Fragger Sessions?

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please and thank you
ok, I'm calming down now.
By the way Mike's the mutha-flippin' man!
:D

[Sir SkratchaLot]

I feel you. Its like a guitar solo vs a band. A master can do so much with so little. Another big thing with the older guys, they had some roots and dug for beats where a lot of 'fad' djs seemed to own 4 battle records. At least here in the bay, where for a while everybody was a DJ. A lot of people always brag about QBert. He is technically probably the best but live he is not as versitile as MMM. Just gets up with 3 records, does some insance technical scratching and thats it. Mike will do the scratching, rock the funky beats and move the floor. He is like the whole band...

I have some ill MMM battles on video that I need to digitize and put on youtube from 92/93.

On a side note MMM just bought french country style house in the Hollywood Hills. I would have pictured him in some old converted loft in the bay. hahah

Do you have the Shigger Fragger Sessions?

I have one of the original shigger fragger tapes, before they were chopped and put on CD. Mike is the the OG master that taught Q anyway. More originality. D-Styles is the man though. Best combination of skill, style and musical ability. Mike is on some raw, superstar shit. I'm not sure its an issue of who's better, its just that they all have different things that make them the best at what they do. But yeah, my favorite thing about Mike is he has crazy energy and he's in left field. He's not the smoothest but he's untouchable.

[mcamuto]

I have one of the original shigger fragger tapes, before they were chopped and put on CD. Mike is the the OG master that taught Q anyway. More originality. D-Styles is the man though. Best combination of skill, style and musical ability. Mike is on some raw, superstar shit. I'm not sure its an issue of who's better, its just that they all have different things that make them the best at what they do. But yeah, my favorite thing about Mike is he has crazy energy and he's in left field. He's not the smoothest but he's untouchable.

You hit the nail on the head. He is not as precise as qbert maybe but he really is the 'party in a box' so to speak. The fact that he can freak on Robert Johnson all the way to JayZ is amazing. D-Styles does rule. Actually Shortkut is like a secret weapon as well. He is a total party rocker as well as ill scratcher. I guess that is why the three core ISP members were such a damn super group.