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BoondockSaint
10-16-2003, 12:46 PM
A few weeks ago the Dalai Lama was quoted as saying "Terrorism is the worst kind of violence, so we have to check it, we have to take countermeasures."

Could This be true, the Dalai Lama approving violence? For once I think the Dalai Lama has got it correct.

I was wondering what other Beastie fans think of this statement, maybe even if Yauch could address it on the message board would be appreciated.

robobeatnik
10-16-2003, 12:48 PM
First of all, what's your source for this "quote"? Second of all, I would like to see the entire interview, article or quote because it's obviously been taken out of context.

checkyourprez
10-16-2003, 01:14 PM
countermeasures might mean prevention not retaliation

Space
10-16-2003, 01:24 PM
how would he even know what Terrorism is?

DforDustin
10-16-2003, 01:44 PM
He said it.
Don't you guys watch the news or at least check headlines on the internet??

robobeatnik
10-16-2003, 01:53 PM
I'm still waiting for a source.

He could have also been referring to the fact that the United States government has backed some of the worst terrrorist atrocities ever and that in order to prevent further foreign retaliation a la 911, the United States and other military industrial mights should act humanely and compassionately in its dealings with other world powers.

BoondockSaint
10-16-2003, 02:54 PM
The Source is Time Magazine the September 29, 2003 issue.

The Dalai Lama said it and is right.

But Ronald Reagan summed it up best - "Peace Through Strength."

robobeatnik
10-16-2003, 04:44 PM
If you're quoting Ronald Reagan you need to check your fuckin' head, buddy.

MaestroDenis
10-16-2003, 07:16 PM
counter-measuers obviously meaning peaceful way to resolve the issue, not the old us-government war mongering

Charli Chan
10-17-2003, 04:17 AM
Orignally posted by Boondock Saint
The Dalai Lama said it and is right.
How was the Lama doin? Next time you meet w/ him and he tells you your a fucking idiot tell him you're American....It's expected.

Space
10-17-2003, 11:55 AM
dear Lama,

how do you stop someone from committing suicide inorder to make a point and kill others, when they feel that the playing field needs to be evened?

energyflo03
11-12-2003, 10:39 PM
I have to admit I am a little confused by your interpretation of the Dalai Lama's statement...I would think that holding such a high position in a Buddhist sect, a religion that is based around non-violence, he would not be recommending we "fight fire with fire"...however if you here anything else please keep me posted...

amchoi
06-16-2004, 03:53 PM
countermeasures might mean prevention not retaliation
I'm gona second this one...

amchoi
06-16-2004, 04:01 PM
countermeasures might mean prevention not retaliation
I'm gona second this one...

lyric
06-23-2004, 09:10 PM
he could have been suggesting a peaceful countermeasure. ghandi took on the oppressive british forces through passive resistance, it's hard to fight against someone who isn't fighting. peace y'all

Danelectro
06-28-2004, 07:37 PM
I agree. In the given phrase, "countermeasures" could mean anything. The phrase is too vague and could easily be misled to other meanings.

Specially by Time Magazine... :rolleyes:

Tone Capone
08-09-2004, 01:39 AM
Good!

buddhadharma
09-23-2004, 04:36 PM
I would like to clear up this discussion. As a buddhist it made me very sad that some falsely implied that the Dalai Lama would promote violence.

His holiness the Dalai Lama views terrorism not as an action but as a perversion of the mind, in other words "wrong thinking". In order to counteract terrorism we as individuals must counteract this wrong thinking by cultivating right thinking in our own minds. We must learn to cultivate unconditional compassion for all beings. If all of us do this it will spread like a wildfire. If you don't believe me then try it for yourself. Tomorrow find 5 strangers and pay them a sincere compliment. When you are done,look at their faces and look within your heart and see how you feel.

Taking revenge for terrorist acts will be an endless cycle of death and unhappiness for everyone. Ghandi put it nicely when he said, " an eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind".

September 11, as awful, tragic, and evil as it was, had its roots. These terrorists are angry over years of misdeeds, apathy, and short term selfish interests (oil) of the US actions in the middle east since the mid 20th century. When we understand the causes then we can begin to develop solutions. Rather than dropping bombs and pre-emptively invading countries (except in the case of defense of an immediate attack on us) we should learn to open a dialogue with all people in the middle east. Through this dialogue we could spread the believe of terrorism as an unpopular concept and people would abandon it as it would no longer server their purpose. Politicians really need to be thoughfull about their policies and actions in the middle east, and we need to take the politicians and the media to task for their wrong thinking and mis-representation of the truth.

The more bombs we drop and the more innocents we kill in the name of "freedom lovers" the more bad karma we will create for ourselves as a society.

My weapon is compassion and I wield it like a sword to cut through ignorance.

Be skeptical of the politicians (but still show compassion for them)
Be skeptical of the media (but still show compassion for them)

Trust your own heart

Finkasaurus
10-07-2004, 11:52 PM
how would he even know what Terrorism is?

how could he not know? he is a very intelligent person. being a buddhist i highly doubt he would EVER condone any type of violence. one of the 5 precepts is to not kill or condone killing and to prevent it. as a buddhist he has to take those vows. there isnt a way around it.

Finkasaurus
10-07-2004, 11:54 PM
I agree. In the given phrase, "countermeasures" could mean anything. The phrase is too vague and could easily be misled to other meanings.

Specially by Time Magazine... :rolleyes:

im sure his idea of countermeasures are nonviolence