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yeahwho
04-09-2008, 07:41 AM
How great is this movie? I just watched it again with some longtime friends and we all agree that after seeing 10+ years later it not only holds up better than the original viewing, Pulp Fiction seems even more relevant that when first released.
The dialogue and script is fast, witty and horrendous all at once.
Anyway I just love this movie and the way it brings smart conversation to the forefront. Each character has a moral play and every one is being taken advantage of, even the big guy Marsellus Wallace who is pretty fucking far from alright with his circumstance.
So what is your thoughts on this classic?
Guy Incognito
04-09-2008, 07:57 AM
Love it - its the only film i have ever been to pictures to see more than once (4 times!)
Everyone is great in it. The funniest bits are the most gruesome.
I only realised last time i watched it that the last words that Marvin hears before getting a bullet thru the head in the back of the car are "God came down from heaven.." then vincent carries his sentence on to say "to stop the bullets". I thought that was pretty cool. I have never noticed before cos i was too busy laughing at what happens after. Its the only film where i have been crying with laughter after someone gets killed. He will not make a better film although kill bill got close.
mikizee
04-09-2008, 08:01 AM
Its a fucking masterpiece.
There's no other way to look at it. Someone I met recently said they thought pulp fiction sucked. I could not believe it and i did not talk to them at all after that.
Randetica
04-09-2008, 03:03 PM
is there even anyone who dislikes this movie?
bigblu89
04-09-2008, 03:06 PM
I've only seen it start to finish twice, and that was about 12 years ago, so I never really formed an opinion on it.
abcdefz
04-09-2008, 03:08 PM
I liked it a lot when it was first in the theater, but Quentin-itis has kinda soured me on it. The last time I watched it, it was just so
fucking self-conscious it drove me nuts.
Guy Incognito
04-09-2008, 03:11 PM
I liked it a lot when it was first in the theater, but Quentin-itis has kinda soured me on it. The last time I watched it, it was just so
fucking self-conscious it drove me nuts.
but surely thats down to you - not the film. I dont get how a film can be self conscious at all let alone after a few viewings.
cookiepuss
04-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Jimmie: Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said Dead Nigger Storage?
Jules: [pause] No. I didn't.
Jimmie: You know WHY you didn't see that sign?
Jules: Why?
Jimmie: 'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead niggers ain't my fucking business, that's why!
but my personal favorite:
Lance: Are you calling me on the cellular phone? I don't know you. Who is this? Don't come here, I'm hanging up the phone! Prank caller, prank caller!
abcdefz
04-09-2008, 03:14 PM
but surely thats down to you - not the film. I dont get how a film can be self conscious at all let alone after a few viewings.
It's when a movie keeps drawing attention to itself and how it's crafted rather than just letting things roll. The first time I saw it, the only
part like that which really annoyed me was when Uma drew the square in the air. But the rest of it was rolling and I just went with it.
But now, all the Quentin mannerisms stick out. I guess it's kind of like how some Woody Allen movies are really hard to watch now that
we know more.
And, for what it's worth, even in my headiest days collecting VHS, LaserDisc, or DVD, I've never owned a copy of a single one of his movies,
so something must've inherently left me cold, anyway.
Guy Incognito
04-09-2008, 03:18 PM
It's when a movie keeps drawing attention to itself and how it's crafted rather than just letting things roll. The first time I saw it, the only
part like that which really annoyed me was when Uma drew the square in the air. But the rest of it was rolling and I just went with it.
But now, all the Quentin mannerisms stick out. I guess it's kind of like how some Woody Allen movies are really hard to watch now that
we know more.
see, i've never thought that tarantino had many specific characteristics. Maybe the soundtracks and some subject matter but i have always thought he's tried a lot of different stuff, some of its worked and some it hasnt. I thought lots of Kill Bill was really different and was still a crackin film.
I thought Pulp fiction was a million ideas a minute, loads of gags, loads of visuals, lots of surprises.
abcdefz
04-09-2008, 03:20 PM
Gotta go! :)
ScarySquirrel
04-09-2008, 03:22 PM
Gotta go! :)
Right now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djIRhlfASO4)?
cookiepuss
04-09-2008, 03:34 PM
see, i've never thought that tarantino had many specific characteristics. Maybe the soundtracks and some subject matter but i have always thought he's tried a lot of different stuff, some of its worked and some it hasnt. I thought lots of Kill Bill was really different and was still a crackin film.
I thought Pulp fiction was a million ideas a minute, loads of gags, loads of visuals, lots of surprises.
nah there's definiently some characteristics about the way he writes lines that seem to come up in all his films. it has to do with the delivery of the lines too. the timing and flow of how charcters interact. Kevin Smith does the same thing in his films. I wish I could pull out some examples and maybe I will later but I don't have time at the moment.
I think I get what A-z is saying. it just doesn't bother me. I still enjoy the films.
mathcart
04-09-2008, 03:44 PM
Marsellus Wallace who is pretty fucking far from alright with his circumstance.
I wanted to get medievil on your poll! why didn't you let me and the holmes go to work on it with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch!!?????!!!!!!
(ok I know the answer- but your in the wrong here!)
:D
mathcart
04-09-2008, 03:50 PM
Jimmie: Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said Dead Nigger Storage?
Jules: [pause] No. I didn't.
Jimmie: You know WHY you didn't see that sign?
Jules: Why?
Jimmie: 'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead niggers ain't my fucking business, that's why!
Theres a great story from this time frame about Tarantino being at some Hollywood party and Denzil walks up to him (when he was cool) as says,"So your the white guy who loves saying 'Nigger', huh?". Whats great on both parts is Denzil never works with him and the next film Tarantino writes and directs stars Sam Jackson and Chris Tucker (Jackie Brown) where they try to invent new ways to work it in to every line of dialogue. Just sayin, thats funny!
(y)
yeahwho
04-09-2008, 04:13 PM
I find this movie to be sort of the antidote to Woody Allen style of movies. The drive to Mia's house after shooting the Pepsi challenge $500 a gram madman heroin.
The way Mia powders her nose, the name mumbling before one of the greatest cinematographic dance scenes ever filmed and of course Chuck Berry's "You Never Can Tell" along with all of the other classic songs, it all adds up after the first hour to some pretty amazing movie making.
But the most amazing thing is the editing of this film, I'm still not quite sure if they started in the middle and worked towards the end, then went clipping to the start and back to the middle. The sequencing is out of synch, yet it works perfect. Like a Pulp Fiction book from the 30's or 40's it's all atmosphere and intelligent writing. That style has been tried again but never to this success.
Each character has a moral play which they must confront, none of these characters is a boy scout, everyone of them is a bad ass and this is their world of violence, there are no easy answers, except for one and only one that can exact the results you need, the Wolf.
The Wolf: You must be Jules, which would make you Vincent. Let's get down to brass tacks, gentlemen. If I was informed correctly, the clock is ticking, is that right, Jimmie?
Jimmie: Uh, one hundred percent.
The Wolf: Your wife... Bonnie comes home at 9:30 in the AM, is that right?
Jimmie: Uh-huh.
The Wolf: I was led to believe that if she comes home and finds us here, she'd wouldn't appreciate it none too much?
Jimmie: [laughing] She wouldn't at that.
The Wolf: That gives us exactly... forty minutes to get the fuck out of Dodge. Which, if you do what I say when I say it, should be plenty. Now, you've got a corpse in a car, minus a head, in a garage. Take me to it.
mathcart
04-09-2008, 04:26 PM
The Wolf: You must be Jules, which would make you Vincent. Let's get down to brass tacks, gentlemen. If I was informed correctly, the clock is ticking, is that right, Jimmie?
Jimmie: Uh, one hundred percent.
The Wolf: Your wife... Bonnie comes home at 9:30 in the AM, is that right?
Jimmie: Uh-huh.
The Wolf: I was led to believe that if she comes home and finds us here, she'd wouldn't appreciate it none too much?
Jimmie: [laughing] She wouldn't at that.
The Wolf: That gives us exactly... forty minutes to get the fuck out of Dodge. Which, if you do what I say when I say it, should be plenty. Now, you've got a corpse in a car, minus a head, in a garage. Take me to it.
The wolf is solving problems like hes vanilla ice! (except way better)
:D
btw love that Janice performance in your sig! amazing.
(y)
Whatitis
04-09-2008, 04:26 PM
Paid to see it 9 times in the theater.
Yea, I like it.
Guy Incognito
04-09-2008, 04:40 PM
sam jackson is the man in that film - everything he says and the way he says it is top quality. Of course there's the big bible bit and:
"Well check out the big brain on brad"
OR
JULES: Whoa... whoa... whoa... stop right there. Eatin' a bitch out, and givin' a bitch a foot massage ain't even the same fuckin' thing.
VINCENT: Not the same thing, the same ballpark.
JULES: It ain't no ballpark either. Look maybe your method of massage differs
from mine, but touchin' his lady's feet, and stickin' your tongue in her holyiest of holyies, ain't the same ballpark, ain't the same league, 'ain't even the same fuckin' sport.
Genius
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ToucanSpam
04-09-2008, 05:49 PM
Jackie Brown is his best movie.
But yeah, it's pretty good.
funk63
04-09-2008, 06:05 PM
HELL YEA! my friend just got a Pulp Fiction tattoo on his back. its a avery popular movie in our circle.
Its a fucking masterpiece.
There's no other way to look at it. Someone I met recently said they thought pulp fiction sucked. I could not believe it and i did not talk to them at all after that.
People have told me they hate Pulp Fiction and others have told me they hate The Big Lebowski. I like both movies so I get annoyed. I understand when they mention the movies they do like. Usually it is something like Rush Hour. I can see how Pulp Fiction and The Big Lebowski would turn people off. I am guessing that the fans of these films are in the minority not the majority.
“I want you to go in that bag, and find my wallet.”
“Which one is it?”
“It’s the one that says Bad Motherfucker.”
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jackrock
04-09-2008, 09:44 PM
Aw man I shot Marvin in the face.
B_Mackin'
04-09-2008, 09:56 PM
"What aint no country I ever heard of! English Mutha Fucka DO YOU SPEAK IT?"
My best halloween costume ever was last year. My friend was Vincent and I was Jules. I'll just put it out there that I made a damn good Samuel L. Jackson.
(Picture of us)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30415733&l=8557f&id=69500715
yeahwho
04-10-2008, 07:00 AM
"What aint no country I ever heard of! English Mutha Fucka DO YOU SPEAK IT?"
My best halloween costume ever was last year. My friend was Vincent and I was Jules. I'll just put it out there that I made a damn good Samuel L. Jackson.
(Picture of us)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30415733&l=8557f&id=69500715
Great picture. Heres your movie quote in Typograhy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syf8olcM0z4)
Randetica
04-10-2008, 09:01 AM
Jackie Brown is his best movie.
But yeah, it's pretty good.
jackie brown is the softcore version of pulp fiction made for lil ginger kids!
Guy Incognito
04-10-2008, 09:02 AM
jackie brown is the softcore version of pulp fiction made for lil ginger kids!
ha ha
jackie brown is kak. the line about the ak47 is the only decent bit in that film.
The Notorious LOL
04-10-2008, 10:57 AM
the dead nigger storage part is awkward as hell.
Kid Presentable
04-10-2008, 11:07 AM
Him saying that shit is dumb.
DipDipDive
04-10-2008, 05:48 PM
I don't understand the rating system, I just voted for Royale with Cheese because it seemed to be the most delicious option.
I love that movie for life.
Planetary
04-10-2008, 05:49 PM
you forget to mention big cahuna burge
skinnybutphat
04-10-2008, 06:35 PM
I still can't choose between Pulp & Goodfellas when the favorite movie discussions start.
yeahwho
04-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Pulp Fiction is for me one of the top 5 movies I'll probably ever see in my life. I can watch any scene taken out of context (Because it was filmed out of context to begin with) and start from there, go to the end and begin at the beginning and end at the point before I began watching the film out of context in the first place and still have the same movie... it's a random set of sequences tied together by one constant interaction with Mr. Wallace. Or his briefcase. I'm uncertain.
Does that make sense?
Here is a wiki look at the sequences;
1. Prologue—The Diner (i)
2. Prelude to "Vincent Vega and Marsellus Wallace's Wife"
3. "Vincent Vega and Marsellus Wallace's Wife"
4. Prelude to "The Gold Watch" (a—flashback, b—present)
5. "The Gold Watch"
6. "The Bonnie Situation"
7. Epilogue—The Diner (ii)
If the seven sequences were ordered chronologically, they would run: 4a, 2, 6, 1, 7, 3, 4b, 5. Sequences 1 and 7 partially overlap and are presented from different points of view; the same is true of sequences 2 and 6. The narrative course, with all its detours, is virtually circular, as the final scene overlaps and resolves the interrupted first scene. Reflecting on the film, Tarantino says, "One thing that's cool is that by breaking up the linear structure, when I watch the film with an audience, it does break [the audience's] alpha state. It's like, all of a sudden, 'I gotta watch this...I gotta pay attention.' You can almost feel everybody moving in their seats. It's actually fun to watch an audience in some ways chase after a movie.
I still like Sergio Leone's The Good, The Bad and The Ugly much more than Pulp Fiction. Sergio was brilliant, the actors are brilliant and the Soundtrack is insanely sick. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is high art with low life once again, only in a much cleaner, stronger and purer dose.
Kid Presentable
04-10-2008, 11:03 PM
It's just another film; a relic of the 90s as far as I'm concerned, and I much prefer Reservoir Dogs. That's just me, though.
yeahwho
04-10-2008, 11:33 PM
It's just another film; a relic of the 90s as far as I'm concerned, and I much prefer Reservoir Dogs. That's just me, though.
Agreed, but it's kind of hard for to name off the top of my head 3 other movies this cool since 1994.
Kid Presentable
04-10-2008, 11:52 PM
I'm no film buff.
Kids
Fight Club
Lock Stock
Those films I found at least as engaging and well-executed as Pulp Fiction. I'm not bothered either way about movies, though. Although I have an uncanny ability to spot the continuity errors in porno flicks.
ToucanSpam
04-11-2008, 10:40 AM
It's just another film; a relic of the 90s as far as I'm concerned, and I much prefer Reservoir Dogs. That's just me, though.
Not to step on anyone's toes but I agree with KP. Resevoir Dogs was Tarantino's first and its certainly less refined as Pulp Fiction...but its rough nature is what makes it more interesting.
abcdefz
04-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Plus, the navel-gazing, character-based dialogue still works. It's not precious in RD like it is in PF and KB2, etc.
You know how some people just love the sound of their own voice, and even if they're good at speaking, you wish they would just
shut the fuck up, because they're using 3000 words when 150 would do? That's a problem with Quentin's movies, right there.
BangkokB
04-11-2008, 01:12 PM
That's the only movie I've ever seen in a Drive In. Beautiful Movie.
Then years later when I 1st moved to Thailand the Mrs.'s and I had 1st met and were on a beach island drinking drinks with dinner and afterwards they played that movie. A beautiful connection movie bc it was our 1st trip together and she got it. Unfortunately she couldn't share my enthusiasm for Natural Born Killers but to each their own
What was in that suitcase is the $64,000 question
I liked Jackie Brown better though. That was QT's grand puba. Everything else has been liked the Doobie Brothers w/o Michael McDonald
abcdefz
04-11-2008, 01:24 PM
What was in that suitcase is the $64,000 question
It was a kinda greenish fill light.
PM me for an address for that check. (y)
yeahwho
04-11-2008, 04:10 PM
It's all pretty subjective, thats why I put the poll up. I really liked the writing and dialogue, they did like the sound of their own voices, except Butch.. he just wanted to get out the hard way. He must of known there would be a price to pay.
Jules was talky, but spiritual which ultimately carried the film. He knew the best way out was to walk the spiritual path.
It's still one of the greatest films ever made, Kill Bill I + II kicks some serious ass too, I'll take those over the other Quentin films, with Death Proof right behind them. When I look at the IMDB's top 250 (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) movies and see it at # 5 I just agree, that seems right. Multiple elements and story lines work for me. I also am a sucker for good editing, Memento which was released in 2000 is another film that drove everyone I know batty, but I loved it. The special effects were thinking. Fucking awesome.
BangkokB
04-11-2008, 05:15 PM
It was a kinda greenish fill light.
PM me for an address for that check. (y)
It's on it's way after the IRS give it the Once over Twice
Randetica
04-11-2008, 05:22 PM
reservoir dogs is quite crap
mathcart
04-11-2008, 05:38 PM
I'm no film buff.
Kids
Fight Club
Lock Stock
Those films I found at least as engaging and well-executed as Pulp Fiction.
I hear you, BUT...
:D (I find I'm saying this a lot!)
I just remember feeling like I had not ever seen anything like PF when it was out in the theaters, (I had not yet come across Kurosawa or Leone films- so to me it was new). The crazy thing about it is the effect it had on Hollywood- a huge percentage of things were derivative (or outright knock-offs) for several years and on into the present- shit, no way fight club & definitely Lock Stock are what they are w/out PF coming first (2 movies I quite enjoyed). Kids was a fantastic movie for its subject matter (as many other films have been since) I just remember it being a huge pivotal moment in film-making (pre & post PF). But thats just what I remember.
abcdefz
04-12-2008, 12:31 PM
Memento which was released in 2000 is another film that drove everyone I know batty, but I loved it. The special effects were thinking. Fucking awesome.
Memento and Goodfellas may well be the only perfect films.
Miller's Crossing and Fargo come damned close.
Documad
04-12-2008, 10:37 PM
It's getting a bit dated, but it will always be a time capsule movie for the 90s. I like it better than Reservoir Dogs, even though I would have to fast forward through all the Bruce Willis parts if I watched it now.
I agree that Goodfellas is perfect, but who are the fools on that IMDB top films thing who are voting for all the Lord of the Rings movies?
Raiders of the Lost Ark is also nearly perfect, but I dislike the sequels. I'll see the new one though because Karen Allen is in it. (y) Oh, and Jaws is a perfect movie. As is Young Frankenstein.
mikizee
04-12-2008, 10:44 PM
you forgot young einstein
Guy Incognito
04-13-2008, 06:10 AM
PF is second only to shawshank redemption for film of the 90's imo.
abcdefz
04-14-2008, 08:55 AM
Raiders of the Lost Ark is also nearly perfect, but I dislike the sequels. I'll see the new one though because Karen Allen is in it. (y) Oh, and Jaws is a perfect movie. As is Young Frankenstein.
All those are really close.
Jaws. Damn. Back when Spielberg let people be real.
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