i'm keeping the baby!

[na§tee]

made ya look.

good sunday morning, bbmb (god, i'm making so many threads atm because i have this avoidance tactic of mine down to a t) a question for you:

if you (or your significant other - or imaginary significant other - or, fuck, some random in a club) found out you were pregnant right this very moment, what would you do? would you think about abortion? juno-fied adoption? keep it? single parenthood? etc etc.

seriously now.

i ask this because i recently stumbled across an old friend. anyone remember a girl named theresa who used to post here oooh.. around 1997-2000ish? she had a website - girlsareweird.com. it's dead now. for the life of me i cannot remember her screen name. any sad cases who have been here this long like me remember?

anyway. i re-discovered her online. she still writes. looking back now, she influenced my 15 year old self a lot when it came to writing, zines, general worldly attitudes. she has a new website - singlespaced.com (http://singlespaced.com/) where she mostly writes about young, unwed motherhood. yup, she's gotta wee bub. unplanned but greatly loved.

interesting reading - even if you didn't know her, check it out. her thoughts on parenthood, "mom-guilt", giving up her career, exhaustion, life goals now she has a child. made me think.

sooo. what say you?

[Randetica]

she was the first online person i wrote an email to, i used to call her mocca nose or something racist like that and i also liked her site, cant really remember her username though

and i would never consider about abortion, not even if my whole family + bf were against the baby cuz im no murderah

[ericlee]

she spread em' she better go ahead and bread him/her.

Simple as that. Unless she was raped and way under the income level...

Quote/unquote

[Randetica]

hey i think it was 'Sa Au Go Go' or 'Sa Ou Go Go' or something similar to that

[taquitos]

if you can't afford it, you must abort it

[mikizee]

If you forgot the franger, grab the coat hanger

[Kid Presentable]

Put it in her anus
don't touch my playlist

Am I playing right?

[jabumbo]

if its not legit, you must acquit?

[na§tee]

oh guys! you're all so.. elaborative! :rolleyes:

i'll elaborate on my own opinion later. right now i'm knee deep in cataloguing anthropology books.

and YES, randy! it was sa au go go. excellent memory. 100 points!

[TurdBerglar]

nothing wrong with abortion


it's actually a good thing

[Kid Presentable]

We'd abort. Now, I mean. In a couply years, probably not.

[DipDipDive]

I would have an abortion without hesitation. I'm too poor and fucked up emotionally to be responsible for another person's life.

[afronaut]

People should be forced to be IQ tested and to have something a little bit better than a McDonalds job before they're allowed to have kids.

And anyone who got pregnant on accident because they were too stupid to use a condom or BC is too stupid to be repsonsible for a child, and should not be allowed to keep it.

[monkey]

at this point in my life, i'd suck it up and have the baby. im 25 fucking years old, and ive faced very little responsibility for the shit ive done. ive also gone through enough therapy over the years that i dont think i would fuck up the child TOO much. i hope.
the decision is all too personal and depending on circumstance. i know that if i were on meds, the decision changes based on the medications i would be taking. i guess ive just given this an incredible amount of thought.


p.s: i remember reading theresa's blog when i was like 16 or 17. she's basically my age. i remember her posting on the mailing list... and i used to love her site. i kinda wanted to be like her... in lots of ways, i still do.

[ericlee]

let's make like a fetus and head out.

[jackrock]

I'd abort that.

[na§tee]

i would get an abortion.

over the years i have had a couple of pregnancy scares. i've always been on the pill, for the most part, but on occasion the "well, nothing is 100% fool-proof" disclaimer shines though, and also there have been times inbetween prescriptions where i've gone without and resorted to ye ole condom method. anyhiz, periods would be late and then i'd get stressed out (no doubt causing periods to arrive even later because of the worry), and off to the chemist i would go. shit, i've spent probably a couple of hundred on needless pregnancy tests. always negative. and then BAM! helloooo menstruation.

once i took a test and it was negative. in the morning, however, it changed to positive. now, i know with hindsight that one should never return to a test like that hours after it has been initially used. results change. but then - fucking shit fuck. i looked at it and got on my knees and thought i was going to barf. i made an appointment with my doctor immediately but the earliest one was in a couple of days. i bought two more fucking £25 tests and drank the largest amount of water i have ever consumed in my life. of course THEY were all negative, but then i'd reason to myself "but.. fuck! the.. fucking.. fucking pregnancy hormone THING is obviously DILUTED because i have been PISSING ALL DAY and they are WRONG! the first one was right! HOLY SHIT FUCK!" etc. yeah, my period arrived on the exact day i went to the doctor and i we discussed reasons why maybe my cycle was not so UNIFORM. thankyou to the one person i went to for advice here who stopped me imploding!

woah. tmi.

anyway, it got me thinking then. i would have an abortion. absolutely, categorically; yes. the option of raising one right now is just laughable. i am almost 25. but i am not half as mature as i should be. i piss my money away on frivilous things. the independent recently said the cost of bringing up a child to age 21 is £180,000. childcare alone, if i wanted to work, would take up most of my monthly salary. it's got to the stage where i am thinking even 10 years from now, if i was happily married, settled, and had great career prospects, that the cost would be just too much. i almost feel like i am making that decision now. i don't know. the world is fucking over populated. maybe if i had a super rich husband. meh.

i thought if i had an abortion it would be 'easier' to look at the 'baby' as, this is gonna sound bad.. bacteria. yes, it's alive, but it's not a person. it's living like a bacteria, like a living organism, which it is. but i say fuck that to the people who think it has a fucking soul. please. but where do you draw the line? difficult.

also the option of carrying it full term and then giving it up for adoption.. no way. i could never do that. it makes me feel like such a selfish bitch - when women who cannot have children would give their right fist for a baby, and i wouldn't be able to give them that? i think it would be more emotionally traumatic giving a child up for adoption than having an abortion. i think people who give their children up like that are awesomely brave. if it makes me selfish not wanting to go through that then, well.. i am selfish.

uhm. perhaps this is all a wee bit personal. ah, fuck it.
situations change. people change. all i know is that i am thankful this is only a metaphorical situation at this very moment.

[Randetica]

they will break all the bones of the baby and the big ol pope will hate you and he may break all of your bones!

[Lex Diamonds]

I checked out the blog. I'd hit it. (y)

[ScarySquirrel]

I thought this was going to be a thread about Madonna and "Papa Don't Preach."

[hitmonlee]

considering who the father would be i'd be a little reluctant to tie myself to him for life and would def consider abortion.

having said that, monkey has a few good points, and i am 2 years older than her. while i am not in a position financially to have a baby, i have plenty of family who would help me support it, and god knows the father could afford it.

basically i'd have a really hard time deciding.

[Dorothy Wood]

depends on the who the father was. I'd probably have the kid though. I used to think I'd give a kid up for adoption, but I don't know if I could at this age. I don't think I could have a full on abortion. I'd definitely take the morning after pill though, if say, a condom broke or some spooge splashed up into my vagina somehow.

[Randetica]

i want a baby so bad but had no chance to yet while 15 year old sluts had about 70 abortions already, it's not fair nor right


well.. my mum had an abortion about 26 years ago but she still feels quite guilty about it so it's nothing that a person with some heart could shake off that easily but good luck, doesnt matter what happens

[gbsuey]

Abortion can leave you with guilt for the rest of your life but it's better than a kid who never asked to be born getting lumped with a (potentially) shit life. Too many people have too many kids and this country has bred a generation of kids in a welfare state with no ambition for anything-if you can't give them the time(and i think time is more important than,say, the hottest game console or whatever) and don't want your life "cramped" then keep 'em closed or have the sense to use contraception. Me-if i had anymore kids i couldn't give them the best of me-i'm fucking exhausted with two what with work etc-so i have to be more carefull than ever coz i'm not sure i could have an abortion now. Also-i've often wondered-when does awareness kick in as a foetus???

[Randetica]

yeah

people should really think it all out before getting an abortion cause these days for some it doesnt seem to be a big deal anymore to get this done..

it should be the law that women who had 5+ abortions should get their womb cut out (unless they got preggies by rapists) cause it's not the baby's fault when youre too stupid to take care

[gbsuey]

absolutely-no doubt it gets used as a form of contraception too often. i'm totally pro-choice but there's gotta be a limit-same as having kids-if you can't look after them-i mean without welfare -then maybe there should be a limit to how many kids the state should pay for. i know that sounds a bit big brother but what good does it do kids who have little or no attention spent on them and their role-models do fuck-all all day long besides smoke fags and watch jeremy kyle(that is a sort of joke-i know that's not the picture all the time!)

[Randetica]

yes.

[na§tee]

remember that family on an old wife swap? neither of them worked, they had eight children, and they got about £38,000 in benefits a year :eek: 38 grand! get tae fuck.

i know that's probably not a lot of money when you have 10 people to look after, but it wasn't as if the parents were incapacitated. they could work. they just chose not to. and when the programme aired, people were like "hey.. didn't you fix my washing machine last month and i paid you for it? hmmm.. something's awry here"

[hitmonlee]

a couple here without children would be getting around 20 grand plus on benefits alone.

*shrug*

[na§tee]

20k UK or 20k AUS?

it's not so much the amount of money - as i say, it's not that large considering. it's the fact they were completely able-bodied and with certain skills, but just refused to look for work. and when they did do odd jobs, they didn't declare their earnings. they were taken to court in the end, eventually.

[paul jones]

20k UK or 20k AUS?

it's not so much the amount of money - as i say, it's not that large considering. it's the fact they were completely able-bodied and with certain skills, but just refused to look for work. and when they did do odd jobs, they didn't declare their earnings. they were taken to court in the end, eventually.

is it my turn on Scramble?

[Lex Diamonds]

Can we get back to the real issue here- this chick is majorly boneable. You reckon she'll ever come back here?

[ET]

Oh wow, Sa is still blogging! I had tried to convince her to come back to the MB a loooong time ago but it didn't last very long. Ha. I really liked her writing style. And this was pre-post count reset.

[beastiegirrl101]

I'm a vegetarian but I'm pro choice, makes no sense...I know.

I'd call up my P's and be all like, "hey y'all want another kid?" Because in all honesty that's who'd be paying for it.

[na§tee]

she sure is majorly bone-able, pad. do you want to get in touch and persuade her to start posting back here again? i'm sure you're the best of our ambassadors ; )

while looking at an old post on her blog there was a comment from michelle who used to post here waaaay back in the day, too. but i doubt anyone remembers michelle. /looks at et in hope.

[ET]

Yeah, actually. Lost touch a long time ago. If I wanted to be stalkerish I could probably find one of her old email addresses or something through where she used to live. She changed her screen name and I can't seem to remember those but I do remember her last name. It's what a true gentleman does. :rolleyes: So I'll avoid going into what I remember in public.

I'm curious as to what she wrote about though. Time to lurk, I suppose. How embarassing.

[beastieangel01]

man you freaked me out for a second.

I honestly don't know what I'd do. I am guessing it would depend on who's it was, where I was in my life, etc.

I'll only really know if and when it happens.